is called long-range, in fact , it is up to 500 km, it is essentially only behind the rear of the current surge at the front, that is, if there is not this stupid, absolutely senseless ban there not to answer only on the territory of ukraine, and not outside, but how do you will repel even f16 attacks in the air, what will they do, will they hide there simply from the air? space, well, this is nonsense, so if this understanding comes and there will be concentrated aid to ukraine, then they will not have to form a new line of defense, in fact already on their territories, well, now in fact they are one dangerous moment in this, on the one hand they are dangerous for ukraine, on the one hand they already agree that even during, even during the war with ukraine, if it is so positional , trench, there may be attacks on them. and rockets have already flown

into poland, drones into romania, well, so far so, still alone, but there may be such a drought, very simply, through estonia, through suwalki, 100 km through lithuania and poland, it may be, well, they scare some information there for transnistria, though, this is a separate story, er, that is, they want to raise the escalation bar, if it were, and show nato's incapacity. yes, the mistake now in the nato countries is that they think that they have time, 3 years, there they called 3-5 years, there is no time, i claim that they should be ready for this already at the end, at the beginning of next year, at the end of this, at the beginning of the next, and if they do not strengthen us as much as possible by this time, they will face a direct, there will be a direct confrontation between nato and russia, or nato countries with russia, and that's all for now. now they are talking about

this line of defense, well, it is absolutely clear, and their ministry of defense is talking about it, of course, in ukraine, which is paying the highest price and there are armed forces that are ready now, well, just so you know, to withstand it and push back the occupier, give them weapons, give the maximum, it can be used, if they don't use it, then it will be a completely different situation for them, i will tell you if... it will be fair soon, because if you think that they will give you an ultimatum for you, like was sent to russia by a nato country and the usa , and ukraine is fighting alone, thanks to the dosed, once again dosed supply of weapons, i say once again, the dosed supply of weapons, because the year 23 could have been a completely different year if our partners had not played the game in escalation control, now they've...

they've reached, well, but i'm sorry, time, time plays a role, so now, i think, the second time, they shouldn't make the mistake of thinking that it 's going to be there for a long time, no, i think that understanding has come, i want to see actions, well, that is, you are sure that our westerners the partners will no longer continue this game of some kind of truce, peace, some lines, putin with some mediators, with some mediators, and they are now solving some question among themselves, how to actually stop the war in ukraine. well, i will take the liberty of saying that these, well, you can say backroom negotiations, let me refer to the leaks in the mass media, they continued in november, december between washington and moscow, and in principle did not come to anything, because, well , if we believe it. then the americans

said that without ukraine we are such a solution we cannot accept, because the russian side demanded to recognize, de facto, today already occupied territories, objects, so that they would be secured by them even in the agreement, well, that is, that these conquered territories would be secured, well, well, the approach, you know , this, as it were, hitler's approach, is obvious, well, hardly anyone will go for it, so now it has been failed. attempts on the part of russia will continue, because, of course, today's situation is beneficial to them, they will still try to occupy the territories, thinking that then it will be possible to achieve the fixation of these territorial zagarblin, but i believe that in the fall it is necessary to do so that in the fall, summer-autumn , a completely different story will emerge, in order to force putin and russia to come to an end on completely different terms. situation, and until this

period, well, let's say so, before the elections, the election day in the united states, why did everyone formulate such a date for themselves, well... it is clear for what reasons there are elections not only for the president, but also for the congress, there really a lot depends on the position of the usa, well, in russia they expect that this will be a very favorable period for them, so by this time, i think, some there are no serious options to make this temporary suspension, as they say, a freeze, such a thing will not happen, well, even if we theoretically assume that there could be some talks and some agreements, but... the recognition that russia occupied ukrainian territories is simple will completely destroy the entire system of world security, because if at some level there, even an expert, the agreement of this agreement and the fixation of the fact that russia has done

the right thing, it means that all other participants in world diplomacy can... by diplomacy not to engage anymore, but simply to engage in the accumulation of weapons and by force to take back some certain territories or reconquer some territories, that is, it is unacceptable under any conditions, right? absolutely, i will tell you more, diplomacy has already become less, i still maintain from the point of view that there will not even be any formal agreement with this russian regime and there will not be one. definition, because it is impossible to do with them, because they, well, they are simply an enemy who wants to destroy another country, here only forcing, you can force anything, but i i see that now it is not the same as diplomacy, now international law is simply torn apart,

just broken apart, yes, it is spat out, because it has come to such things that it was impossible to imagine before, and in fact everyone... was quite confused, but nevertheless, it has already been two years, and in these two years much more could be done, well, i think, i really hope these statements that there are 800 thousand shells, there is half a million in production, there are already some european budgets that are changing, that it will still put understanding on other rails when they talk about diplomatic end of the war, when especially ukrainians. answer this question, then i asked those who conduct the survey, in fact, ukrainians do not mean the signing of an agreement with russia or with putin, well , in fact , they are talking about capitulation, but they are not talking about that, but they are talking about the fact that everything will be successful through diplomatic means after all, this

russian regime should be pushed so that they crawl away, because with all their mental problems, they also have mistakes, they still... well, we understand why they want to keep the power there, control in their country, because they will be torn apart if they are not restrained, therefore, in principle, there are ways for world pressure to really affect their approaches, it is true, and the first is weapons, the second is sanctions, the third is still the continuation of obstruction, isolation political, this is the most difficult, because many countries in the world do not want to do this, you are looking for your benefits there. we see it, and all of this together can be called diplomatic influences, but there will be less of all of this in the future, let 's be honest, and this is a lesson for ukraine, in the coming decades, the law of force will be to play a key role, not international

law, not rules, but the law of force, you see , first tanks enter, first some actions, first 100 tamahawks were released there or cruise missiles, including tamahawks, then they begin to understand, at first hamas provoked israel there, i got on them, then let's conduct maneuvers, who is right , who is wrong, when they lead, that's how it will be , that is, if you have strength, you will be able to defend yourself, if you don't have strength, there will be no formal agreements, any previous agreements to work, everything will depend on what you have in your hands at the moment here and now, for that it means to have. well, ideally, it is clear that the security umbrella through precisely collective defense, well, nato, is a separate topic, and now, unfortunately, it is difficult to implement, but the fact that we should have in the near future

a large, sufficient number of missiles that would, well, let's put it this way, we call it long-range, that's 500 km, it's not, in fact, medium-range. medium-range, shorter-range, that's thousands of km, if only to have missiles, ours without nuclear weapons, but 1000 km. several hundred missiles that could to be some kind of deterrent weapon, well, i'm talking about other components as well, so we need to use this moment to strengthen our capabilities, and for now, let's be honest, we do not have an advantage over the russians in many types of weapons, we are there somewhat balanced in terms of systems, well, thank you pppo and the fact that we are lagging behind very much. in terms of self-propelled artillery installations, something has been improved a little in terms of anti-aircraft guns, but very little, we are losing in

all these directions, while they give us weapons to replace what was lost in the war, that is, that's why it has to be a completely different approach, and now we always talk about it, constantly discuss it, but well, i think that, well, we should talk, i think more openly, and not at the official... level, you know, at that the parliament could already get involved, so that it wouldn’t be a little out of another opera, but today our government went to the polish border there and stood there taking pictures, and the poles were manipulated, well, that’s it, well, why isn’t the parliament involved, why some big, in we have different associations, we have associations of people, there is simply no coordination, there is no work of such an active government, well, yes, well, here we are. they took a picture, yes, to the stadium , yes, the stadium, and what happened next

, well, this is true, this story, to be honest, is kind of very strange, because yesterday the guy said that he would not come to the border, and shmygal went there with government officials, and zelenskyi said that they should come there, and shmyhal, by the way, today said that ukraine has developed and is offering poland a plan of mutual understanding regarding unblocking the border, it consists of five steps, the issue of unblocking the border must be resolved earlier on march 20... on march 8, as tusk said that a meeting could take place on march 28. let's hear what shmigel said. today , there are more than 9,000 trucks on the border on both sides, and this issue must be resolved urgently. the trilateral headquarters should work around the clock, and the issue of blocking the border should be resolved much earlier than march 28 , the date when a joint meeting of the governments of ukraine and poland should take place. otherwise , ukraine reserves the right to apply mirror measures at checkpoints. that's it

some artistic amateur activity. i don't know how mr. valery, you perceive, as a professional diplomat, and i, how it is to come to the border like this, to say: listen, leave, let's talk, and we have five-point plans, well, that is, somehow it's not looks professional. look , the fact that... institutional possibilities should have been involved a long time ago, we talked about it a few months ago, i know, and we all know, and i also worked at one time, there is a ukraine-poland consultative committee, which in principle under the president, who in principle had would warn about such situations, they can arise and we warned about it, well... we do not want to bring it to the level of the president, although it was stated here that it was volodymyr zelenskyi who spoke with donald

tusk, after this conversation, donald said that it could to be only at the end of march 28th, it can be discussed objectively there, well, it is really unclear what they are pulling, the situation is critical for us not only from the point of view of the supply of goods there, yes, but from the point of view that this is an informational tool, very serious, and of course. different people play here forces, but they also turned back some military cargoes, that is, this is absolutely unacceptable to us, so the decision, for example, the statement of the prime minister of poland that we border facilities, that is, all the crossings, we recognize as critical infrastructure, which means that we cannot everyone should do promotions , it was a good decision, so if it can be unlocked at the expense of it, then okay, but if they don't want to see you, if you want to put pressure on the polish government's decision like that, it's hardly the best option, then that the plan

we offer is good, what with brussels we offer together, it's also good, because brussels has distanced itself from this issue a little now, you know, that is, the issue is not about grain at all, so now we should talk with poland about joint structures of collective defense, it's time to talk about it. and we are forced to talk about the elements of the border blockade, this is absolutely unacceptable and with all the elections that will be held there in poland or new elections. there they say that they want to take revenge, the previous party that did not get this power, that is, well, it does not satisfy me absolutely, how to act here, let it be ours, well ours , when we say the government, well here it is not only the government, i emphasize once again, it must be coordinated, the line of the state, i would start with the work

of parliamentarians, diplomats, parliamentarians, well , the government got involved, okay , at this stage, well , the picture itself... now it's unlikely to affect, it's unlikely to affect, and for us, honestly, it looks like a certain weakness, i don't know what they were counting on, because i know these people, some of them, as professional people in the government, well, i don't know why such a decision was made, i think that this decision was made not only in the government building, but in others, well, that's where such informative, informational steps are developed, well, it's emotional. the decision and it is directed first of all to give to pr to pr yes to the day before and there should be actions directed at poland because in principle i understand that poland does a lot and did, well let's say it did a lot more yes now lately there are questions and in fact everyone

was counting on the government of donald tusk, he is a european politician, he has a different way of ... see, i'll tell you, frankly, so far such radical changes, something we do not see, and this is his authority, i met with him as part of a delegation, he is a person who understands this perfectly, a person who is for the unity of europe, i think that he will be able to take steps, and here he would not we all have to play to the public, but to find ways to really coordinate there, i am sure that donald toust is interested in solving this issue in the context of european security. another issue that is being discussed, well, at least for the last few days, is the possible holding of a so-called congress of so-called deputies of various levels in transnistria on february 28, it seems that this meeting of deputies should take place, and it is said that this unrecognized transnistrian moldovan republic will ask for entry into

the russian federation, on february 29, putin should return to the federal assembly with an annual message, but gur of the ministry of defense of ukraine says that the information that transnistria will ask putin to join them to the russian federation is currently not confirmed, and the ambassador of ukraine to moldova, marko shevchenko, stated the need to create a new format for settlement of the transnistrian conflict, since the previous format with the participation of russia has already been discredited and certain. that ukraine will provide assistance to moldova in the event of an escalation of the situation in transnistria. let's listen to what the ambassador said. ukrainian officials have repeatedly publicly said that if there is an official request for support or assistance from the authorities of the republic of moldova, ukraine will definitely provide it. how and how quickly it

will be provided will be discussed later, and it will depend on the seriousness. situation, if moldovan officials consider that there is a threat to security or stability , they can apply, and we will discuss what kind of help moldova needs, and this help will be provided as far as the circumstances, the situation, mr. valeriu, how likely is the scenario or the repetition of the scenario from the so-called lpr and dpr from pmr, well, on the one hand. they have everything ready for this, because in fact this transnistrian assembly of deputies of various levels is taking place for some important moments, yes, that is, last time and last time they made a decision there about an appeal to russia in principle, and in fact they only need to confirm it and that's all, that is, in

the grand scheme of things, the development of events can be any, so i would not ... reduce precisely such threats, it feels that there is some kind of backstage constant struggle, something in russia is reducing their appetite for decisions, because it is from their point of view now, what is their goal, to break through the corridor from the south of ukraine, well, it was through odesa and in transnistria, transnistria is cut off from the border with russia, that is... both by sea and by land dry land, so it is difficult to carry out some serious things here, but from the point of view of such a game of destabilization, raising the stakes, this... in principle, it can be played, if the russian political technologists come up with the idea that it is necessary to show the muscularity of their

leader, everything can be , although there are such statements that we have everything under control there, i would say that these are very bold statements so far, but this ongoing conflict is not a conflict, but simply put, an occupation... by the russian army the federation, since 1992, could not withdraw this army from there, then this whole story with the transnistrian republic of moldova arose, and it is such an appendix between moldova and ukraine , but it is the territory of moldova, and it is a threat to moldova and a threat to romania as well, that is, if the 14th army that is there, if i'm not mistaken, where is the contingent there? 50,000 people in transnistria, if suddenly they start hostilities, this will somehow lead to the fact that romania will also

enter the war or not, well, if separately, not as a northern member of the north atlantic alliance , and how how a territory that, let's say, helps moldova a lot. mr. serhiy, this is a separate topic , probably because, well, i will say this, there are not 50,000, there are less, and there is a lot, there are large warehouses that are embezzled there or corruptly stretched there or exported to russia, but that is not less, it's not about weapons, it's not about the amount of equipment or special personnel , it's about the fact that they , indeed, those who are there, will not be able to oppose it militarily, but... you don't have to discount it all- after all, under our border with the vinnytsia region, there i will tell you what it is with any involvement of destabilization there

, it is a very bad story, although it can really lead to the fact that the war will no longer turn into a war of one in defense of one country, ukraine, moldova may be involved, then , we will see later, that is, what will happen. further, therefore, to raise the stakes in this way , show escalation and threaten even more , putin can and the kremlin can do it, what does this mean in military terms for us, i don’t want to go into details now, let the military experts talk about it, but nothing good , here in there is nothing good about the development of such a situation, which has already been tested by them, really at such and such congresses, especially in international law. in terms of status , this is essentially an occupied territory of moldova, so the top of the military there, even what they have and the people who are there, they know why they

started all this, but i will just tell you to explain why they are collecting from driving, they want to get improvement in their economic issues because moldova had worse, it is paradoxical, but in economic terms moldova chisinau has worse conditions than with... the disobedience, they have now equalized and they are outraged, how come, we will earn less of our corruption money, i.e. both direct and corrupt money, that is what the problem is, i.e. they want to scare that putin will come if you are not going to deduct our corrupt and corrupt profit, that is, they are, but how it will end from the kremlin’s side, i don’t know, the kremlin can take advantage of it, we understand that it is all controlled from russia, they do not have independent decisions, that is why ... i would now, well, let's say what it means in practical terms, us, ours the main development department reassured, but i hope the information reassured

, on the ground, as they say, appropriate preparations are being made, and we will have to be careful, well , actually, we are in a state of war, and even so we have to constantly keep that flank under control, but i will clarify, over 6 00, i was wrong, not 50 00, because that's the one. well, as of 1995, i looked at the numbers there 6.5, the very end of our conversation, i am interested in your opinion, whether the ukrainian state and ukrainian diplomats should now speak before march 17 and especially after march 17 about the illegitimacy of putin during the election the territories that were temporarily occupied by russia and... they consider their own, and this territory is part of the ukrainian state, necessarily, necessarily, moreover, it seems to me that now we need to talk about three topics, the first

is... absolutely to continue her topic at a new stage, this is russia’s self-proclaimed capture of the un and the un security council, firstly, secondly, it is absolutely clear, they will not give up these attempts to demonstrate something there in the occupied territories, not only that the elections themselves in russia, we know how they conducted and no one recognizes these standards, but also on occupied territories, there must be a clear recognition of legitimacy, at least yes, if not by the whole world, then by a part... critical education, this must definitely be done, if they will not go for it, they will not be able to agree, well then, sorry, about what we say, then putin will receive another signal, and a third one, i think that after that we need to be much more dynamic, more active in understanding that in russia there are already some kind of changes, proposals, what you said will not happen next time , russia already,

putin and russia... said that they took the ticket in one direction, and it is simply necessary to speed up their train in one direction, not in the wrong direction that they think, and if putin is not recognized putin's legitimacy as the next president of the russian federation, what consequences will this have for him and for russia? it depends on which circle of countries will do it, how it will sound, it already is according to the definition of the international court. to the criminal, he is wanted, that is, where he is in the countries where the roman statute is recognized and ratified, he does not go there, that is, but it must be it is very important from the point of view of aggression, war, that is, we must not admit in any case , there is still such a moment, you see, we cannot hold elections, yes, because we are in a state of war, that is, we have questions, and we we understand, here suddenly

the aggressor is holding elections on the occupied territories, well, it is clear that this is a demonstration, nothing will happen there, but they, they simply write down their matrix, this parallel education, and then we will demonstrate to everyone, we can't let them create a parallel reality because now this year will be very important from the point of view of fighting in another space, in the space of narratives, messages, these fakes, that is, we have our model, and the true model now. clearly form again as a whole, and in this model putin's illegitimacy should play one of the key roles. thank you, mr. valery, for the conversation, it was a diplomat, the former ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america, valery chaly, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those watching us live there right now, no please don't forget to put a favorite

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two years since the beginning of the full-scale war of russia against ukraine, what has been experienced during this time , how ukrainians have changed, where the state is moving and what awaits ukraine in the future, we have collected everything and will try to remember and summarize it in today's edition of the bbc, i am olga palomaryuk. two years ago , the russian invasion looked like this: ukraine remains an independent state, and the government of president zelensky, which russia was so eager to overthrow , not only did not leave the ukrainian capital, but also continues to work actively. however, international support for ukraine has seriously weakened, what can we expect in the third year of the war?