two years of russia's first full-scale war against ukraine, what have you experienced during this time, how have ukrainians changed, where is the state moving and what awaits ukraine in the future? we collected everything, and we will try to remember and summarize it in today's issue. bbc: i am olga palomaryuk. this is what the russian invasion looked like two years ago. ukraine remains an independent state, and the government of president zelensky, which russia sought to overthrow , not only did not leave the ukrainian capital, but also continues to work actively. however, international support for ukraine has seriously weakened. what wait for the third year of the war? russia's attack

on ukraine in february 2022 was so large-scale and brutal, and the resistance of the ukrainians was so strong and courageous that it seemed that this war could not last long, but two years have already passed, shelling, losses, despair, fury and anger, that , which ukrainians live with every day. according to the office of the prosecutor general, in total, since the beginning of the russian invasion , almost 12,000 people have died, and almost 18,500 have been injured. of course, these figures are approximate, because it is still impossible to establish exactly how much people died in the first year of the war in territories to which ukraine does not have access due to russian occupation. the number of dead ukrainian soldiers is not known for sure, during an interview with the american tv channel fox news, president zelenskyi said that for every ukrainian defender killed, russia loses five soldiers. in two years, russia caused colossal losses in... ukrainian

infrastructure, which is approximately 155 billion dollars. the lion's share is the destruction of the housing stock. ukraine also lost human resources, yes, according to the un, the number ukrainian refugees are almost 6.5 million people, and more than 3.5 million are internally displaced persons. also, compared to the first year of the war, ukrainians began to trust the authorities much less. however, on the good side, ukrainians traditionally have the greatest faith in the armed forces. of ukraine and volunteers. and since the beginning of the war , bbc correspondents have been working in ukraine all the time, james waterhouse, one of them. we asked him what he remembered most during all this time and how he, as a foreigner, sees this war. from these first hours of invasion , not always obvious things are remembered. of course, i will never forget the fighters that... above the clouds. the weather was similar, the

same as today. at the time, we didn't know whose boots they were on. of course, we also saw convoys of russian armored vehicles moving south from belarus. this instantly cast the shadow of war on kyiv and the speed with which events unfolded will forever remain in my memory. but the memory that stands out among the others is a trip to the local pharmacy. we were shooting outside there, and people were standing in line for medicine. they were all different. scared and extremely scared, and it showed because of how easily one can lose freedom due to the fear of war, an act of aggression unleashed by russia. and of course, i remember the relief when ukraine finally won the extraordinary battle for kyiv. despite the fact that russia has concentrated its efforts elsewhere, the shadow of this war is far-reaching and felt in every part of ukraine. now, when we communicate with people, the fatigue is palpable. i think that people from... the example

of russian aggression, but when people have loved ones who are fighting at the front, or when they generally worry about their safety, or men who don't want to fight because they don't want to kill and they have a real threat of being in combat after a few weeks of training, or when people see headlines that things aren't going according to plan on the front, it's all reflected in the day-to-day people's lives, and it is extremely difficult, but still most people believe that ukraine should continue. because the outcome of the war is vital for many people, it is a matter of survival, and what is the outcome, well, this war has raised many difficult questions, it is still difficult to draw conclusions from of this war, because we are still in the middle of this extraordinary chapter of history, but i think we are at the crossroads of history, when the west will be remembered for not being able to prevent the goals of vladimir putin, regarding his attempts to influence ukraine, and possibly beyond. the aid provided

by the west was significant, but the problem ukraine faced was the speed with which it came, and now europe, along with the us and its commitment to nato, is supporting ukraine. but support may now be under the question mark, for which europe is frantically preparing, there is also munitions shortages that are spreading from outside of ukraine, and i think that's the result of a lack of long-term planning that has come out because of russia's ability to continue this war. during these two years , the front has also changed, the character of the war has changed, as have the forecasts regarding its development. if the first anniversary coincided for ukraine and... at times there was hope, the armed forces were preparing for an offensive, waiting for the delivery of heavy weapons, now the war has finally turned into a positional state. western aid was greatly reduced, and the russian army, having received replenishment, began to squeeze ukrainian troops in several areas of the front. so now the question is what's next? in the same

interview for fox news, volodymyr zelensky said: "ukraine plans to prepare, to prepare a new offensive and that the russians, according to him, will receive surprises." drones were undoubtedly one of the biggest discoveries of this spring, the ukrainian army was the first to use drones on the front, but the russians quickly realized that drones were the future, and now both sides are competing for dominance in the sky, which to wait further at the front, that's what the ex-commander of the us army in europe benges thinks. russians are capable. their adaptation of drones has reached a scale and quality that exceeds what we have and is better than what the ukrainians have. it struck me. they also didn't waste the chance we gave them when we were so slow to give aid

to ukraine and make decisions that when the ukrainians went on the counter-offensive last year they ran into millions of mines and extensive networks of trenches, that's what they did for themselves ... conclusions, but on the other hand, theirs navy and air force have learned nothing in my opinion. their air force , despite all the advantages, never achieved air superiority, they never helped to destroy a single convoy or train with equipment with ammunition going from poland to ukraine, and for the air force this is the number one and number two task . and, of course, the problems with the black sea fleet are well known, they. suffered such heavy losses that they were forced to relocate from sevastopol to novorossiysk. in two years of war, no matter how terrible it sounds, ukrainians used to live under constant shelling. the worst is for those who are not far from the front line. kherson, mykolayiv region, kharkiv, what is the life

of civilians there? the bbc's sarah rainsford tells the stories of people living under constant crossfire. war with russia. changed everything in kharkiv, including childhood. nika has not attended kindergarten for two years because of the missile threat. the area where she lives is broken, part of life in her city has moved underground. here, next to the metro station, the classrooms are full of children, no explosions will reach them. trying his best for the little ones to live their usual lives, nika is happy for every minute, many of them were able to play together for the first time in several months and feel like children again.

olga talks a lot about the strength and resilience of kharkiv, but she still fears for her daughters, it's better underground, so it's better that way, it's very, well, it's safe. and parents can be sure that nothing will happen to the child, and he will continue his more or less normal life. he will not reach us here. therefore , life under the surface of the city is expanding. here they are building a whole underground school. a few more are planned. the place for it was chosen under the old stadium. this is how kharkiv is adapting to... which was once considered impossible, but now there is no end in sight. russia is intensifying its shelling of this city. this family still cannot believe that they survived. we met marina and her mother a few days after a rocket

destroyed their home. it exploded as soon as they rounded the corner of the house. eight of their neighbors died then. i found my birth certificate here. among the wreckage fragments of marina's life are scattered around the house, only one of my documents has survived, it is the only confirmation that i am me. the day after the rocket attack, her dad planted a flag on the roof of the destroyed house. it doesn't matter what russia will do to us, they can kill us, maim us, but we will stand and live on. this city is called unbreakable, but the difference between life and death here can be a matter of seconds or meters. and how has russia changed over these two years, are they acting on... western sanctions, how much longer can they fight and is there at least some hope left for

population resistance to putin's regime. correspondent biv rosenberg, who works in moscow, tried to analyze. these were two years that changed russia and set it on a dark path. two years of war, huge losses, mobilization and the prigozhin rebellion. as well as repression. oleksiy navalny died in prison. but the president looks confident . vladimir putin feels that the situation can change in his favor, but what is his goal? he wants the whole world to live on his terms. i don't think he wants to take over poland, the baltic states or western europe. he needs ukraine, but even this is not enough for him. he wants the world to follow his rules, to accept his vision of the world. how

has everything changed, or was there ever a time when russia and the west talked about cooperation and partnership? putin, with whom i met, with whom we founded the russia-nato council, was different, very far from the megalomania that characterizes him now. that is, the person with whom i stood next to in may 2002, very close. said then, ukraine is a sovereign independent state that can accept its own security decisions, now this is a man who says that this is not a nation, not a state, and should be erased from the face of the earth. vladimir putin once told me during a press conference that russia is clean, clean, nothing has changed. the kremlin continues to say that everything that happened is not the fault of the kremlin, it was the west that started this war, but two years ago it was not the west in...in ukraine, it was russia. and how what

is happening is perceived by the russians in the city of solnyachnogorsk, not far from moscow. the last two years of russian history are here, in this park invasion of ukraine. the russian soldiers who died there are portrayed as heroes. wagner graffiti and flowers, just to name a few. in memory of... oleksiy navalny. according to the residents of solnyachnogorsk, their lives have changed over these two years. our factories have started working, now we produce what we used to buy abroad, but i feel sorry for the young men, all those who were killed, lydia says. marina is proud of the russian soldiers, but notes that she lives in fear that her son may go to war. we need peace, she says, so that we are not afraid of what can happen bring tomorrow these two years

also changed the war memorial on the city square. a new section appeared, dozens of names of local men who died in what the kremlin still calls a special operation, not a war. well, tomorrow it will be two years since russia launched a full-scale offensive against ukraine. how has ukraine changed during this time? ukrainians, what about the economy and whose future lies in ukrainian exports, i advise you to read the article on our website, my colleagues collected the most important things about the war in bbc.ua figures. i also remind subscribe to our pages on social networks so as not to miss the most important news, we are also on facebook, instagram, tiktok, and youtube, you can watch our episode if you missed it on air. well, that's all for today, more stories as always on... our website, on our pages in social networks, see you, all the best.

greetings, friends, the second part of the verdict program is live on the tv channel, my name is serhiy rudenko, today. in the issue: endless february, two years have passed since the beginning of the large-scale invasion and 10 years of the russian-ukrainian war. how has ukraine changed? bilateral security guarantees. zelenskyi explained what a diplomatic end to the war should look like. key points of the fox news channel president's interview. blockade

of grain cargoes. polish farmers plan to increase the shares. protest, the embargo on ukrainian agricultural products may be extended. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us on these platforms, please bet like this video and also take part in our vote. today we ask you about the following: should zelensky run again for the presidency of ukraine. yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube if you have your own opinion. please write in the comments, if you watch us on tv, take your smartphone or phone and vote if you think that zelensky should run for president again 0800 211 381, no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, call, at the end of the program we will pick you up the results of this vote. today we have

journalists, my colleagues, a traditional journalism club every friday. so, today we have maria gurska on the air, journalist, presenter of the espresso tv channel and head of the sister project, ms. maria, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. greetings, serhiy, thank you for the opportunity to join eter. maryna danylyuk yarmolayeva, journalist, political commentator, author and host of the youtube channels of showbiz and centronet. marina, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. sincere greetings to all. and he still has to join yanina sokolova, a journalist and tv presenter of the fifth channel, we are waiting for inclusion, so far she is not in touch. come on, maria and marina, let's start our conversation with the bliss poll, as we ask our tv viewers whether zelensky should run for the presidency of ukraine again. i think that he himself is still undecided and is thinking

about it, let's tell him whether he should run for president again or not. marino: i like facts and want to remind you that in mr. zelensky's campaign program, when he was still a presidential candidate, it was written about one term: plus on the internet you can find his public interview, i don't remember which publication it was in, but he was definitely wearing such an emerald sweater, and he said there, that friends, i am going exclusively for one term, and the third such moment, recently... there were sociological polls and more and more ukrainians are inclined to the opinion that mr. zelensky should limit himself to one term, and not because there are people against or against set up by zelenskyi or him they hate, but it just looks absolutely adequate, because the person had such a term , yes, which probably

cannot be compared to four for the richness of events. thank you, maria, do you think that the president should go for a re-election, i wanted to say a second round, but for a re-election of the presidency? you know, serhiy, from warsaw, i missed a bit where the discourse about the second term came from, in fact, these days, because everyone is absorbed in the blockade of the polish-ukrainian border by polish farmers, everything that is taking place at this time in the political plane, i know that we will talk about it again, but if there is already such a discussion, then first of all, let's say that i am in one term, especially since he it is already clear that it will turn out that way, probably longer than planned, well, and secondly, after all, well, here i would like

to focus on democratic countries, in which , well, somehow... it rarely happens when there are two, three, four and so on presidents the same people hold this position for five terms in a row, of course, according to the ukrainian constitution, to hold this term twice in a row maybe yes, but we understand that now there are objective reasons for this that make it impossible, and i think that we should still first of all concentrate on getting our victory as soon as possible, and then holding elections. maria zelensky was asked about the election by fox news, and brad bayer, who took the big one. interview, and this night, last night, this interview was published, just as zelensky was talking about the fact that he has the greatest support of the people, if elections

were held, they would elect me - zelensky said, so it is not necessary to say that i i'm trying to stay in power, i would win the elections if they were held, - said zelenskyy, that's why he himself admits in his answer that he can win a second time... elections, let's return to this interview, because in principle it turned out to be significant and so far the only one on the eve of the second anniversary of the great russian invasion of ukraine, and in this interview, on the american television company fox news, zelensky tried to emphasize how he sees the war, how he sees the current situation and what will happen next, we will briefly go through this, because it is very it is important, tomorrow is february 24, and exactly... two years ago the great war began and this week marks 10 years in the russian-ukrainian war, but what zelensky says in an interview

with an american television company, he says that the ratio of losses of ukrainian military and russian is one to five, and what exactly, said the president of ukraine, we will hear. we know about tens of thousands of people killed. tens of thousands of children were deported, we know that, if you compare the number of dead soldiers, i would say the ratio one to 5 , there are five russian soldiers for one ukrainian soldier who died in battle, this is an approximate statistic, i have only one question, colleagues, why is he telling this to an american journalist and an american tv company, and not to some ukrainian tv channel? or the single telethon , or the statistics, well, you can roughly count, the inter tv channel, or 1+1, and why all this

, how much is it, if one to 5, and look at the statistics of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, you can roughly understand the number losses during this war, and rahamia once said that this should not be kept a secret at all, it should be talked about, because people should know, marina, what do you think... that zelenskyi is always oriented towards something to a western audience and always relays everything that is important within the country to western tv viewers? well, because i will remind you that from the very beginning of his presidency, mr. zelensky decided not to treat his own voter as an adult, and this was very clearly, for example, followed in the format of new year's appeals to the ukrainian people, do you remember? once there was a speech when zelensky went to kindergarten, and there in the background, four 5-6-year-old children talked about what awaits us next

year, and unfortunately, during a full-scale war, when ukrainian society needs information, needs trust in the ukrainian authorities, for some reason mr. zelensky decided to choose exactly such formats of conversation, and so, unfortunately, we learn about such decisions most... from interviews with foreign publications, or about zalozhny's resignation, this for example, there was an italian social analogue, or, for example, such a very trigger-like, screaming statement that related to social assistance to ukrainian refugees, it sounded for a german audience, at that time, at the same time , there was no such thing for ukrainians, for which mr. zelensky went to give an interview precisely on the fox news channel, according to my information... in principle, it was also written publicly there in separate messages, about four months ago, the office of the president of ukraine finally decided that they were not communicating enough with

american voters who support the republican party, and not only this trump bunch, but republicans in general, and since then they have decided to push their messages more actively through fox news, and fox news is such a huge mouthpiece for republicans. audience, given the fact that mr. zelensky has not communicated with trump at all for a long time, on the second anniversary of the full-scale invasion, he decided to give this interview. i will immediately note that the format in which this interview took place is quite successful. mr zelensky went to the city of kupyansk, just a few kilometers from the front line. and here we see there in such a living nature there a bonfire was even lit in some shots, but zelenskyi tells how

ukraine lives, there were even very... nice filming with drones, yes, how does the city of poineverchine look now, that is, the picture is not bad, it seems to me that such a form was not chosen by chance, and this is the message of the response that the fox news viewer saw after that famous interview with putin and kerr carlson, well, the only thing is, you know, i feel sick, it is obvious that this mr. journalist, brad bayar , who came to do this interview, was not very prepared for a trip to the front line near the city of kupyansk, because you know right away, those white jeans of his are catching my eye, but with the statements that mr. zelensky made there, well, i can say, and a good statement was about financial assistance from the united states of america, whether ukraine will survive without the support of congress, of course, but not all of us now the price of assistance is less than putin

will succeed. is this statement true or not does it correspond to the realities in such a way that such a laconic statement was understood by the potential american taxpayer, who now essentially found himself in such an inter-election struggle of his own in the presidential elections of 2024. about trump, yes, if he came to ukraine, he would see everything with his own ears and i heard it on my own there too, i am happy to welcome any of the presidential candidates, anyone. who is the leader of opinions, too, thank you, lord, a normal message, finally, maybe the ukrainian authorities understood this mistake of theirs, which was not only there after during early zelenskyi, as well as previous presidents, that you cannot place these bets exclusively on one presidential candidate who is running for the position of president of the united states of america, well, definitely about the elections, about the elections, well, this was

zelenskyi's own statement. she, you know , as a citizen of ukraine, she is not very pleasant to me, because i feel that mr. zelensky does not read all these trust ratings that are given to him very correctly, or certain people who give these ratings do not interpret them quite correctly , because i would win the election, if they happened, well , zelenskyi's trust figure is high, but i always correct everyone who says: oh, zelenskyi has a big one... and i say: look, this may not be a personal rating of mr. zelenskyi, but an institution, the president, as a person who won the democratic elections in 2019 and received a huge mandate of trust from the ukrainian voter, these are slightly different things, and it is felt that mr. zelensky still does not fully understand what this figure of 64% support is, according to the latter survey which

just a few days ago. and all the more, all the more, marina, this is the trust rating of the president of a country at war, that is, it is not a sign of equality with zelensky, but rather with the institution of the president of ukraine during the war. maria, like zelensky in your opinion, looks inside the state and for export, is there a difference, here is the export version of zelensky and the domestic one. how much, how much these two images match, you can and know both images and you can also tell about them, how it looks for export now, but these days, when we are there, well, let’s remember, i understand, i understand, i will only say that i will briefly note here that yes, these are completely two different images, internal zelensky,

zelensky for export, and we all for... a little bit agreed to consume this zelensky for export, because it continues war , and we criticize the government much less , criticize, in particular, the president and the supreme commander-in-chief, and again, at the moment , we agree with the fact that some messages are the main ones, which we also expect, as an explanation from our government. we will get from such interviews as volodymyr's interview zelenskyi tv channel fox news. if we talk about this interview in general, i will say that in my opinion, it is very good that zelensky attacked him and did it in such a dignified way from the front line, as if emphasizing the cowardice of putin and his henchmen, putin, let 's recall, sat during an interview with tucker carlson in comfortable.