who are now the officials of pro-ukrainian politicians, do we have enough professionals and is the quality of their work sufficient in this matter , it is not news that i am not a supporter of volodymyr zelenskyi at all, but i must note that during the last two years he has his qualities, which in he had the qualities of a speaker, the qualities of an actor, he used them in a way that no one would have used them, look, this is a fact, and it is necessary, the facts must be recognized and respected, and the way he worked as a tribune definitely deserves respect . now we look at the second part, that is, the president the tribune is in principle, it's generally normal, but the executive part, the executive part, well , it needs realism, pragmatism, professionalism, uh, well, right away , the question arises, to what extent the west listens to... arguments,

maybe we still still haven't learned to speak with the west in the language of the west's interests? we are right now with you, in principle, you know, we have worked almost like a message box, that is , we have to talk to them in a language that they understand, but the war criminal putin talked to a commentator, not a journalist, carlson in a language that no american understood at all, well, it's true, not every american is interested in the life of a lurik over breakfast. well, maybe this is the wrong analogy, from the point of view, by the way, from the point of view of the texts that zelensky spoke, but again, i have to admit, well, there were, there were, there were some simply beautiful historical texts, that’s a fact , now you have to direct your work, what the americans call the grassroots, it's this it's nezy, nezy, nezy, that is, sit next to everyone... what

the americans said, says, you have to sit next to every congressman, that is, just next to every congressman, and speak to him in a language that he understands in his so-called district, then, he says, in principle, you are able to get additional support, which is why it is extremely difficult work at the moment, and in addition to speeches from high stands , now the same difficult field work, field work, can it completely change the whole mood to... eh, but it can definitely help, because look, everyone is in election periods, listen, this year is completely unprecedented, half the world 4.2 billion population, well have the right to vote, we do not include russians in this figure, no, no, we do not include them, because there are no elections there, there are reassignments, well, that is, in fact, we need by and large strategically, if we finish our conversation, to survive the pre-election periods and move on , you understand, i don't think that it is enough for us to survive the pre-elections. period i believe that the challenges

of the 24th year compare at all no less than the challenges of the 22nd year. the 24th year is extremely difficult, i believe that there is a chance that we will receive the necessary funding in the 24th year, further in the 25th year it is necessary to collect everything in a new way, starting with money, ending with military ammunition, and actually prepare a counteroffensive in a new way, in order to prevent russia from capturing any other territories of ukraine on the 24th. i think this is very important, just a signpost for the next period. i want to thank arseniy yatsenyuk, the head of the kyiv security forum, the prime minister of ukraine in 2014-2016 , for participating in our broadcast. thank you, mr. arseny, for being with us, and we will continue, literally in a few minutes, our broadcast dedicated to the second arms of russia's attack on ukraine. mr. arseny, you absolutely rightly said that this is the second year we can talk about 10 years after the beginning of the russian attack, which was... i

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we continue the saturday polyclub program, khrystyna yatskiv and vitaly portnikov the second of the russian federation's large-scale invasion of ukraine, the tenth act of military aggression against our country by the russians, and mr. vitaly asked a very important question, why in the 14th year they did not dare to finish what they did in 2022. what is your view on this story? i think they really weren't prepared for the kind of reaction that was in 2022 from another side. reasoning that we did not talk about, this reasoning is related to the fact that they believed in political revenge, they had absolutely clear idea of ​​response to challenges, the one that they had in 2004, in 2004

, they were basically operating in exactly the same paradigm with the first maidan that they were operating with friends, and i think i told you maybe off the air, he told that in 2004, the current president of ukraine , leonid kuchma, was also tried to be persuaded to move to one of the eastern regional centers , or kharkiv or donetsk, in order to allegedly hold a congress there, not a congress of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, a session verkhovna rada of ukraine, to print an issue of the government courier newspaper in one of the printing houses of kharkiv or donetsk, to hold the inauguration of the new president of ukraine viktor yanukovych, this was a russian proposal that was expressed at a very high level. and leonid kuchma, according to my sources, categorically disagreed with this proposal and said that the president of ukraine should be in kyiv. well, you just have to understand that leonid kuchma differed from viktor yanukovych in his precise understanding of the nature of power.

he just had it, you know, it's the kind of thing you can't learn. at leonid kuchma's it was, it might be possible not to notice that he has it, although it is not noticeable somewhere. we all noticed it. ot. who would treat him anyway? some had a positive attitude, some had a negative attitude, and the fact that this politician is aware of what power is, was clear from the first months, literally there of his tenure as the head of the ukrainian state. and that is why this scenario did not go the way it did when yanukovych fled from kyiv, uh, but we see that they were preparing for the same thing, for the same paradigm, and i think that if they had it worked out, then it would have gone exactly as it did with yanukovych, there would have been no tobsey of the verkhovna rada, chaos began, it was unclear where the legitimate government was, some part of the territory had already split off for this. was held prematurely by the north danenets congress, and

everything was already ready, that is, in 2004 , everything was ready, but since they did not succeed in destroying the legitimacy of the government, and they , as it were, themselves, because they simultaneously participated in the round table, the same people who suggested that kuchma leave took part in a round table in the mariyan palace, roughly so, i apologize , as it seems to me, in 1918, the future chairman of the council of people 's commissars of the ukrainian ssr , khristiyan rakovsky, came here on behalf of volodymyr lenin to hold talks with the head of the government of the ukrainian state, pavlo skarapatsky, and at the same time held secret talks with the former head of the government of the ukrainian people's republic, volodymyr vinnichenko, about the overthrow of skoropadskyi. it was all at the same time. and as you can see from the 18th year to 2004 nothing has changed and from 2004 to 2014 nothing has changed. it's as if we are in one scenarios, we walk in the same political circle. so, when it was not possible to detonate. and the legitimacy of power, then another model was chosen, to bring the situation to a rematch, ugh, and this rematch really took place in

2010, when viktor yanukovych became the president of ukraine, that is, he took the place that the kremlin, the kremlin itself, had prepared for him, starting in 200 there for 3 years, in 2014, there was such a paradigm of thinking, but i spoke about it sketchily. arseniy yatsenyuk is absolutely correct, they believed that there would be chaos, that the government was already illegitimate, that even under the conditions of this government, which will be, even if she succeeds, it will be possible to reach a scenario of revenge, and they saw in this scenario the year 2019, what the scenario of 2019 looked like is also completely understandable, just as in 2010 there was a party of enemies of russia, great enemies. led by viktor yushchenko, he was marginalized, including by russian efforts, especially

after 2008, after the war in georgia, in fact, yushchenko was deprived of the possibility of, let's say, a foreign policy maneuver, because he took a very clear position, which was not appreciated by his compatriots then i i believe that we all have to apologize 100 times for this, especially to viktor andriyovych. it was his 70th birthday, on this day we want to congratulate him and say that we are sorry, and on behalf of ourselves, on behalf of those who would not want to apologize, we understand how far-sighted and statesmanlike his position in 2008 was, as well as the position of the it is very unfortunate that these, i would say, value orientations of the president of ukraine, the third president of ukraine, were not properly appreciated by all of us at that time, because maybe we would have been in a different situation than me, but this is history, that is. also, then, so there was such a conditional moderate party of yulia tymoshenko, which

seemed to have the possibility of dialogue with russia, but had the possibility of dialogue with the west, and it was presented as an alternative, well, in the russian sense, that there are such two moderate alternatives, but our vitya, well, yes, as a result it worked, the marginalization of yushchenko also worked, and such, i would say, difficult work with the image also worked. tymoshenko, that she seems to be able to negotiate, but still somehow unreliable, and if you want something reliable, then take yanukovych, he is a business man, although yushchenko and tymoshenko during their tenure as president and prime minister of ukraine demonstrated such a level, i would say, of economic growth in the country that was never observed either before or after them, and speaking against this background, oh, look, yanukovych is a strong landlord, it was just some kind of madness, because the strong ones are just me. there were those people at that time, i'll tell you why, this is how a boy's mind is perceived, for

yushchenko and tymoshenko the dollar was from five to eight, and for yanukovych, the eight was held very two years, but remember the level of wages, let's remember the liquidation of debts, remember all this the very level of purchasing power of citizens, we never lived like under yushchenko, never after that, well, we started there after the 14th year , growth began. because yanukovych brought the situation to the limit, the big businessman brought the situation to the limit, well, okay, so let's leave this story in the 10th year, and let's say on the 19th, what was the idea on the 19th, it is necessary to... marginalize the war party so that ukrainians vote for the party of peace, so we can no longer bring pro-russian forces to power, frankly, but we will try to demonstrate that we are for the party of peace, that we will negotiate with the party, the same idea was that we, we do not negotiate with ukraine, and we do not negotiate with poroshenko, because he is not

constructive, only you choose someone constructive, everything will be over immediately. and it was an outright bluff on the part of putin, but when it turned out in 2019 that ukrainians in principle agree with this logic, then the party of war, remember that there were many of these parties of war since 2014, at first there was the right sector , the main war party, you remember, yarosh, then a new war party appeared, the people's front, yatsenyuk turchynov, it was a war party, then it turned out that it was not a war party, but a war party - it was. petro poroshenko, who initially acted as a moderate political force in this structure, means that this is also the party of war, but now what is the main party of war? zelennia, the servant of the people, is it the party of war? yes, that is, they appoint some political force in ukraine all the time, and as a rule, this political force first tries to conduct a dialogue, well, no, but

relatively speaking, turchyniv yatsenyuk, when they came to power, they tried to talk to them, and you are a party of war, a coup d'état, the junta. that's all, then , then president poroshenko started talking to them, for a while he saw that they wanted not to talk, so that everything would be given to them, these negotiations are over, you are all a war party, then zelenskyi started talking, it also turned out that he is not ready to sacrifice territories and the national sovereignty itself was declared, that is, the war party is the party that is simply not ready to fulfill any pretensions of the kremlin, well, that means they actually, why i mention the 19th year, they introduced the matter to a political revenge, well , really. why do you have to make a military adventure, especially when everything has already happened to you, one way or another, when you can get everything politically, that is, the idea of ​​war turned out to be absolutely relevant after the 19th year, you know why, because they did not they understood very well what kind of revenge could still be made, but it is as if this revenge took place, the war party

was marginalized, the president was elected by votes 73% of voters are like this. who wants peace, he still does not capitulate, even if we imagine that we are waiting for this president, how many four years, or five, five, uh, until the 24th year, and with such a huge level of support, there are no guarantees that he will not be removed after 5 years, well, let him not be voted for by 73% in the second round, and not even 50 in the first, and not even 50 in the first, but he can be moved again in... . that putin will have to wait 10 years, and i'm sorry, how old will putin be, relatively speaking, imagine what would happen now there was no war, there would have been such a situation, but such a frozen one, conditionally speaking, with constant

demands to fulfill the minsk agreements, with the construction of roads there, with the continuation of the process of european integration, and so on. and zelensky would be re-elected right now, despite the fact that there would be a strong opponent, which means he would finish his second term in 2020, in the ninth year, how old would comrade putin be, 78 or 79, you see, this is the logic , which means that we can no longer wait, i.e., there may not be a political revenge for the second or third possibility, because this the possibility of revenge in the 19th year failed. yes, and here is the answer to the question why they did not attack in the 14th year, because they had a simple program of actions, and besides , it was considered all the time, this is also an important point, that they through the annexation of crimea and the war in donbas , set a clear barrier to the european euro-atlantic integration of ukraine, and

again somewhere around the 20th-21st year. they began to have doubts that this barrier was working, because the barrier supposedly was, and the talks about nato and the european union continued as if it did not exist, and i repeatedly mentioned this statement by president biden that the issue of euro-atlantic integration of ukraine is not an issue of the occupied territories, it is an issue of its compliance with nato standards, this was a very dangerous formula for putin, uh, so that's why in the 14th year it's not... happened because, of course, if you understand how much money needs to be spent on war, it seems that everything needs to be spent exclusively on the political process to destabilize and discredit the patriots. politicians in support against pro-russian sentiments, on russian tv channels, plus there was medvedchuk who believed that he had convinced

putin that everything would work out, as in the 10th year, because every day of persuasion is billions of dollars of business, and here it turns out that it does not work, that is, there is no understanding of what it is i... continue to work with it? and after 2019, this process already begins, it is also quite simple. at first, a meeting in the norman format, an attempt to impose their conditions, ugh, and it's not even a question that it doesn't work, it becomes obvious that putin and zelensky live in some different worlds. i i will not say who is where in this world. but it's clear that they don't just meet there , they look at each other, but talk , as you know, like people who sing in an opera, arias

from different performances, well, one sings, the other sings, listen, i'm sorry, but we have rigaletta, you are singing now with luciimur, ugh, very strange, and maybe it is a ballet in general, and it becomes obvious to putin. moment, that is why he, by the way, is expelling surkov, because this whole surkov plan, crimea, as a trap, destabilization, revenge, capitulation, not works, and then a cossack with another program appears, a trap, ugh, destabilization, chaos and intervention in the destabilized one. and it doesn't work again, because every time a trap is set, and let's create some council of representatives of ukraine, the dpr,

the lpr, let's sell a joint inspection, a very strong reaction begins on the part of society and on the part of western partners, and the authorities themselves begin to realize that putin is driving her into a trap and refuses immediately, even from those decisions that seem to be agreed upon during negotiations. and it gives putin has reason to say that zelenskyi betrayed his voters, although in principle zelenskyi absolutely acts as the voter wanted, the voter did not vote for the capitulation of ukraine, will he really elect zelenskyi? no, well, that's why putin doesn't understand it either. in any case, it is clear that this trap is not working, and putin is less and less enthusiastic about the fact that this recipe will also work, and you remember that every day ... the cossack speech becomes more and more and even more annoyed not only because ukrainians do not agree to his scenario,

and because for the second time in his political career, when he believes that he is achieving the maximum result, he turns out to be at the bottom, the first time was when there was the famous kozik plan for moldova, kozak had already sewn himself into stupidity in such a story, when he actually created a plan that transformed moldova into a state. satellite of the russian federation, and this plan went down in history as a cossack plan, and on the day that putin was supposed to fly to chisinau to ratify his plan, the then president of moldova, volodymyr voronin, called putin and said: "you could not, volodymyrovich, sit at home." the president of moldova, the president of russia, can you imagine what putin said to kozak then. i don't want to, we can't recite it, and this is the second time, the same moment, and by the way, where is kozak now, when we last time with you... saw and heard kozak at the meeting of the security council, when the issue of recognizing the so-called independence

of the dpr, lpr was discussed, then he was never seen publicly again, what is happening to the person who is the deputy head of the administration of the president of russia, actually disappeared from radars because it payback for actually the second failed task, that's always the case with the chekists, yeah, and absolutely. it's obvious that after this story doesn't come out, there is a decision to activate that plan, which, by the way, was in the year 14, uh, there was, the big attack plan, just no, it just wasn't activated because here we mentioned the meeting of the national security and defense council, i think that at this meeting, i don't know it, but we discussed exactly this plan in 14, which was then implemented in 2022, and i tried to... action from my sources , which in i was still in moscow, to find out, to understand, i called a member of the national security council at that time, and they said that for the information that i could somehow

glue together. from all the excerpts that i have, there will not be a major attack, but even then they said that a plan was being prepared with an assault on the government quarter, with the bombing of kyiv, ugh, and with the occupation of the entire territory of ukraine, in the east, south, and around kyiv , and they abandoned this plan precisely because they convinced themselves that they could solve this issue with less blood, ugh, that's it everything, plus nord stream-2, they really built it then and did not want to disrupt it, this is a very important point, i forgot about it, they believed in 2014 that europe was not economically dependent on russia, and that then it can be quite tough if there is an occupation of ukraine, uh, for

2022... the second year, as you remember, just a few weeks before the attack , nord stream 2 was completed, remember, actually according to the calendar, i wrote, it seems to me that 2020 is the year 20, that as soon as it is completed, a big war will start in europe, i wrote even in the german press, and all my german colleagues told me that it was a total hoax, that everything would be the other way around, and here it is, by the way, not me and you, christina, we should not forget this moment, specifically construction. these pipelines , it was also part of this reluctance to attack in 14, because they didn't understand what to do if the ukrainian gas transportation system was damaged, they just didn't have real routes at that time, to supply so much gas to europe that was chartered , ugh, and in this regard were aware that kyiv could even blackmail them with this story, by 2022

we no longer had such opportunities... because all the gas that went to europe, completely 100%, could go outside the ukrainian pipeline, remember that even after the damage to the northern stream one putin said, yes, we can through the northern stream two, it is intact, it is simply not certified, they believed that the europeans would agree to everything even without certification, this was a wrong assessment, ugh, well, i i'll just remind you that the ukrainian gas transportation system is still in place remains in the game on a... minimal scale at all, as it can be, and i will also remind you that nord stream 2, the story with this project is, so to speak, finished, and in fact the civilized world is still looking for, and how did it happen , who can be involved in this case at all, a large-scale project, a gas needle, as it was called the northern stream 2, but when

we talk about it, we are not only talking about... geopolitics, we are not talking exclusively about the economy or energy stability of the entire continent, we are talking about the military aggression of the russian federation against ukraine and, in the future, against other european countries. mr. vitaly, you mentioned moldova and transnistria, such a strange bit of information slipped in that on february 28, the so-called deputies of the so-called transnistria will address the russian federation. 28 28 on february 28 they will apply for acceptance and so on and so forth, we have nothing to talk about yet, first of all, because our military and our intelligence says that they do not have objective data to state this fact, but does it look like something real to you at all, given the military situation in the black sea equatorial region, well, is there

any way for russia to carry out what in... it did with ukraine, georgia, and before, and she does not need to do anything for this, if it is only a question of whether such a decision will be made, ugh, the territory of transnistria, the so-called transnistrian moldavian republic, is not controlled by the governments and the kishens, yes, yes, they are something they are exported, they are according to the law of moldova, but listen, what we don't have there was a situation when some goods were exported from us from the occupied territories and they also fully obeyed the law of ukraine, and we... did not control the territory, this, i apologize, can continue further, so the question is whether the federal assembly of the russian federation can to make a decision on the creation of a subject of the federation of the transnistrian moldavian republic? the answer is yes, if vladimir putin wants to make such a decision, then it will be made, and in order to actually control...