i advise this in every interview and i advised it at the beginning of the 23rd year, i said that the 24th year will be difficult, because there will be a lot of elections and the geopolitical situation in the world will change in general, because right-wing radicals, left-wing radicals will come to the authorities, and we will see this even in the european parliament, that even europe will change, and therefore we need to shift the emphasis that we are discussing whether help will come or not, and it will depend on it... what will be the option for the end of the war, we must rely on my own, well, strangely enough, i understand that i may say strange things, that the country is at war, and i say and rely on our own strength, we will be able to win back our country if we act as and as israel, which contrary, contrary to some proposals there, even their partners, did what is necessary for the survival of their nation, and thanks to this alone they survived, and thanks to this alone they... were becoming a technological state and

thanks to this their armed forces are superior technologically by several heads, all the arab surrounding states who wanted to dump them in sea. so we need to shift the discussion in society to how many factories we have built, what we are doing in the competition to win the industrial competition with russia, because the war is won in the rear, the economy wins the war, the order in society, the efficiently working apparatus wins the war. an efficiently working society, economy and industry, if this is not effective everything, if we rely on the fact that they will give us, they will not give us, and why they did not give us 10 patriots, but we only have two patriots, then we will never see our victory and borders in 1991, never, and if the configuration changes and we are left as a buffer and not accepted into nato, i think that at the washington summit two statements were already made by the representative of great britain and the united states in nato. who told us

not to count on the fact that they would even give us a political invitation at the anniversary washington summit, and we expected it back in vilnius, and if not for freedom, we thought that we would receive it in the summer of the 24th year after all, and now they tell us, you won't get it, don't get your hopes up, no no no inflated expectations are needed, this means that we may be left with an armed buffer between russia and europe, and then what, yes, well then it could be finland, by the way, it's not so bad, in my opinion, but there are different opinions on this matter . you see, there were many questions to mr. president regarding the suspended, suspended mr. zaluzhnyi. you have some kind of explanation, because, so to speak, the president's administration and the president himself do not give such clear explanations. and i don't know if it's right or wrong, i think to myself instead of the administration, why it could would happen, and is it rational, or is it...

emotional, i don't know what you will say about zaluzhnyi and mr. syrsky, who took his position? the public never received an explanation of why and for what and why, well, i also listened to the conference and a japanese correspondent who asked directly about it, the president avoided it, said that it was an internal matter, who he removes, who he puts, but the explanation is we didn't get a clear one, but i saw some such hints there between the lines. you know when they said there was a leak of the counter attack plan even before the counter started counteroffensive, that it seems he was the source of these plans, not so opaque some kind of hint, incomprehensible, it was unpleasant for me, to be honest, when zaluzhny was accused in general of trying to limit the number of people there regarding the plans, and thanks to we resisted this in the first part, in the first part, now they are, you know,

well, they sound unpleasant, to be honest, and are perceived unpleasantly, well, maybe he knows more than you and i, you know, it’s also possible, well, absolutely, i’ll even go, maybe he knows what we do not know, and it may so happen that and it is not necessary to know, because no one will bear it, another question, but we can facts, we can just look at the facts that in the first half of the 22nd year, everything was going to the point that we would be surrendered. and there were some previous agreements with russia, but it didn’t happen as expected, thanks to the hard work and the armed forces, and we persevered and rejected and there were successful operations, so i think that it is necessary to comment on this topic very carefully, well, i am so diplomatic i am trying to say, one more such news, i would say about 31 thousand killed ukrainians, it is important, to me it seems, and it seems to me that there is... some

underestimation, because even if you take 1/7, as many say, of the military losses in favor of ukraine, then, well, then either the russians died. less , or more ukrainians died, because there are under 400,000, if one to 5, then 30, 1,000 dead on the ukrainian side does not come out, should people here tell the truth, during the war, i think it is not necessary, war, precisely what concerns losses, it is not worth talking about it, because it will be, well, demoralization for sure, those ones data, we are in... everything after the war , we know a lot of things that will surprise us, i think, there are many things, but it will be after the war, i even told myself at the beginning of the war that i would try to refrain from criticism, because it will help the kremlin to destabilize

the situation in the country internally, and this cannot be allowed, and this is a contribution to the fact that we stand with a united front, stand in solidarity against this onslaught, because... the question of survival, survival, we will deal with many questions later , and there are actually many questions, but this is a little later, i think look, the j7, that is, the most developed democratic countries in the world, said that they do not recognize the pseudo-elections in russia in the occupied territories, that is, in translation from diplomatic to normal, this means that in principle they recognize that putin is the president, but not you... you know voting in the occupied territories, as far as i understand, if i understand correctly, because many are actually putting pressure on western countries not to recognize the upcoming elections in russia at all. well, look, if

the elections are not valid in part, in part of the territories, then you can say that the option is not to recognize and legitimate the president himself, because it is a part of the territory. that he occupied, entered into the constitution, this is not recognized, that is , it is not recognized, which means that the legitimacy of such a constitution in general and such a president, who is elected according to this constitution, is called into question; there may be another point of view, for example, from from my tucker carson point of view, i said he was being sent just to whitewash putin in the run-up to the election in order to put him, possibly in to sit at the table of victory in the future. and then many confirmed, foreign experts, many confirmed that he was working as a messenger from trump to putin, and that they were coordinating, and that it was indeed a special operation to give him a platform in front of a western audience to speak, and most of all task, it was

to wash away this swindler, a cutthroat, to wash him away simply in front of the western audience so that it is possible to conduct some negotiations with him in the future, that is, there may be a second such option. see also the president said that he somehow said so , that i didn’t understand anything, that he should not negotiate with putin, but find a place where he would sign his defeat, that is, an act of unconditional surrender, as it was during the attack of hitler’s hitler’s germany on the civilized world, let's say, well, not all of stalin's civilized russia, certainly not the civilized world, but this... means that, after all, some negotiations are possible, despite the fact that mr. president himself once signed a law that negotiations are impossible, that is, i did not understand here, as you did, neither do i it is difficult to understand, because there are diametrically opposite signals, on the one

hand, he can sign the capitulation if this president, and on the other hand, we will involve him in the third peace summit, the head of the president's office declares, for me these are such alarming facts, you know that how they will involve him, the person who came and directed the army against the ukrainian people and the ukrainian state to destroy us, and we will bring him to the peace summit, how will we convince him, or will we negotiate with him, well, not for me of course, that's why some the signals sound so diametrically opposed, i follow them for myself , so i make notes, let's say so, to analyze later, but so far i have not realized the full breadth of this thought. well, but he didn't say that it was putin who would participate, he said russia, as i understand it, maybe i'm wrong, maybe i didn't hear something, that the russian delegation might appear at this peace summit, but not putin himself personally, maybe i'm wrong, maybe it was

meant, well, even the russian delegation, well, how can it be, what can be negotiated with the russian delegation, which represents the country of the aggressor, when there is a war , we have not decided, well... it will come to capitulate or something, what will the russian delegation do, if it comes and we will receive them at the peace summit, then we will negotiate with them, to look for points, common points of contact, and you you then me... what a capitulation. mr. ruslan, you completely rule out the option when you have to, not because any of the ukrainians want to, but the world is very, you know, changeable, and a situation may arise when you have to, well, talk somehow, maybe not with putin, but with some people from his closest or not closest circle. i observe that we are being pushed to this, being led in particular through two public organizations. contacts directly, well not directly , but through these two swiss public organizations between us and russia, and they

have expressed their readiness, let's say, to accept, or continue, to maintain dialogue, i see statements by politicians of the united states who say that earlier or later, well, we will still have to agree on something with russia, russia will not go anywhere there, well, that is, it is leaving preparation... of public opinion for the fact that sooner or later in one or another configuration we will have to negotiate with russia and this is bad, it means that ukraine is being prepared for capitulation, that is, to exchange territories for a temporary peace, because it will be 100% temporary , look at the latest statements of the un security council of russia, which openly said that it wants all of ukraine, that its parts or regions there are partial, that they seize there with their jerks, first there... then donbas, now two more regions have been added, that it is not them it suits them that they want to reformat the whole

of ukraine, that is already clear, but some partners, they are in unison with the kremlin, for some reason , in my opinion, they are starting, you know, so carefully, carefully to push this idea, well, it is impossible to defeat a nuclear state, it is remains in the un red security, the potential is great, look at what it has connected there, iran, and china helps in communication, that's with'. "and how to make it so that russia has agreed to something, can make ukraine neutral, or not accept it into nato, and then we will have a maneuver to negotiate with russia, yes let's sit down at the negotiating table, let's promise russia that you will be neutral there without nato, and the president said at the press conference that nato is the only guarantee, when he was asked about security guarantee agreements, he says no, we understand that the only guarantee is nato, so they don't give it to us, but if they don't give it, the next step will be'. push, well, let's negotiate with russia then, and these are, you know, trial balls, trial balls

are launched to study public opinion, and international public opinion, and in ukraine international opinion, whether the ukrainians have reconciled, or are ready to give further resistance to the russians , is it possible that the time has already come to sit down at the negotiating table, look at the help, on the one hand, two years later only the decrees signed in the united states about bypassing all to close the loopholes for russia, but for two years they did not see, when the sanctions were adopted, that russia is restoring its potential and bypassing, bypassing all these prohibitions, why did they wait two years and only now have they begun to impose this coercion on russia, where chinese, turkish banks, banks immediately stopped making calculations arabic, united arab. emirates, where these were generally financial hubs for russia, which paid for the same chips, for

goods that went there and through the caucasus, through georgia, and through the countries of central asia, we were all visible, visible to ordinary citizens, it was all on the surface, why two years later they just started screwing up the potential of the russians, and not giving us, and not giving us help, mr. ruslan, we thank you, firstly, secondly, we can criticize them very strongly, like you now they showed an example, but the reality is that we depend on... y we don't have that many weapons, and you have to count on different ones, have some variability in your head, in the case of success it will be this, or this, or this, or there may be failure, and then you just have to treat it soberly, but i do not call for sobriety , i urge you to thank ruslan osypenko, a diplomat, an international expert, and watch the advertisement, that's what i urge you to do. damn, stepladders, the great danes don't walk anymore. wait, i'm choking. what,

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the prime minister of italy, mrs. miloni, and she said this phrase, i would like you to analyze it, if... the russian federation did not attacked ukraine, there would be no attack on israel either. it is, well, you see, it is obvious to me that russia has 100% attacked ukraine, yes, there is nothing to talk about here, the influence russia to israel, well, on, on, on, gas, for help, well, 5%, well, 10%that they supplied there, something was proven, something was proven. proved, but as far as we have to talk about the fact that everything in the world is so interwoven that if it were not for this, then this would not exist, or if this, then this will definitely be, well, here i would said yes, in politics it is necessary to look not only at who speaks and what is said, but to whom these messages are spoken, in the image of maloney we have a good

friend of ukraine, also because maloney represents... there are right-wing forces, i would even said the far-right forces in a sense, and the european far-right forces, oddly enough, support israel, orban, the same example, and maloney voiced what many are just afraid to say, that the russian attack on ukraine and the hamas attack on israel is the chains of one network, and on the one hand, well, it seems that this is such an attempt to play, to connect one topic and another in anticipation, especially... of future help from the states, contrary to what some people said, tired of the war in europe, to give such a message internally, and on the other hand, this and in a certain in the sense of historical reality, because the hamas leaders themselves have inconsistently declared that russia is the beneficiary of the war, because they have diverted attention, and we ourselves know how

the global south has been sharply switched to israel, the same case of couples to the international court of justice, despite the fact that the leader of couples calmly is going to the war criminal putin and has a good relationship with him, well, he actually gave up his time at... his very steam, this is already a plus, and that's why this is the topic, and now these two, so to speak, narratives, ukrainian palestinian who try, i controlled by the muslim, the muslim majority or whatever you want to call it, well short of hamas, let's say this, that's the picture that will satisfy the rest of the world, the rest of the world will want , given what you just mentioned, the pressure from the left and... the far left, what not, it is necessary to give them a state there in its entirety, well then it is necessary , then it is necessary to say that the complete evacuation of the jews from that land, because the war will continue

forever, well, the israelis have already declared that the creation of a palestinian state is a new holocaust, so here it is agreed we are with this one thesis or not, should the events of the second world war and nazi crimes be mixed with this situation now. this is another question, but in fact netanyahu did not come up with anything better than to take the experience of the west bank of the jordan river, where there is an israeli border, for example, with jordan, there is an israeli military there, it is controlled, and, for example, inside some cities i happened to be, for example, in jericho, that is, you go there, and there are already palestinian flags everywhere, portraits of arafat somewhere, and there are palestinian police, local self-government, but... nearby, for example , the city of jewish settlers, which was another jericho, where they are armed, respectively, ready to defend themselves, and he offers the same to the future gas, they say, tzagal

will stay there, he will control financial flows there , because it is expected that qatar, saudi arabia, and the emirates will immediately start rebuilding something there with big money, well, to put it simply, the local administration will be responsible for the sewage system and that no one ... takes an extra loaf of bread from the bread counter, these are all the powers, it is clear that many will not be satisfied with this, but on the other hand, what is the alternative, to be honest, seeing the creation of a palestinian state as realistic now , it seems to me that even israel's neighbors will not go for this , especially since neither egypt, nor lebanon, nor jordan , nor turkey, did not take any serious anti-israeli steps, they were basically satisfied with the status. therefore , the topic will remain, it will be possible to troll israel, who say , look, the occupied territory of the gas sector is being oppressed there, financial

flows are being blocked there, and netanyahu will be like this, you know, not complete, but at least some victory, well, we did not allow the creation of a palestinian state, we control, we control the process, another question is how hamas itself will react to this, here they have agreed in paris on the alleged, so hamas is now received, there will be... a truce, but hamas can then continue to accuse israel of violating even this, it will be a long process, and now to wait for a truce to be announced there within 24 hours and everything will be over is too much far gone, that is, the process has a certain peacemaking perspective, but not in the coming weeks for sure, so it is likely that israel will continue to exert military pressure. mr. mykhailo. i want to clarify very much, but you said that egypt, lebanon, jordan, and turkey are not happy, what does this mean? that

is, if serious negotiations begin on the creation of the state of palestine, these countries, and maybe others, will say, and we are against, we, that is, as clearly as it will be, as much as it will be in favor of israel. these statements, well, because you can say that the jews are to blame for everything, as it often happens, but it is possible to say, well , it is effective, to say, no, no, no, stop, stop, we are against the creation of a palestinian state in the gas sector, well, they will not directly oppose it, they will take such actions so as not to disturb the balances in the region, why, because, for example , hamas posed a certain threat to... let's not forget that hamas represents a wing of islamic political activism, and the ideology of hamas can very easily be exported from palestine, it came to

palestine, for example, egypt , which overcame, relatively speaking, the assisi regime, overcame the threat brothers of muslims, jordan, which, despite the protests of 11-12, king abdullah maintained stability there, the influx of syrian refugees, a huge, heap of problems livanto and essentially torn between hezbollah and the central government there, these countries, if the creation of another arab state, which will promote, by the way, which is very paradoxical, even democratic ideas will not benefit them far. this, you know, this, this is, to be honest, the russian scenario, no russia ever wants to see a free democratic ukraine under its side, if there was any dictatorship, maybe everything would be different, loyal, and the same there, there was already a situation when gaza entered egypt, it did not end in anything good with those ideas of arab nationalism, so somewhere they will support the palestinians with one hand, supposedly formally, with the other to do everything possible so that

somehow there was... the reconciliation was further stability, well, there were good trade relations with israel, the diplomatic ones, and all the others, these countries, to be honest, are israel's allies in the region, and, for example, now , when the houthis settled there in krasnoye the sea and the wadden gulf have a problem, then who suffered from this is egypt, and imagine the palestinian state, and how will they be, who are they, who will be represented there in general, what interests will be there, there is regional competition, the same iran... maybe strengthen through palestine, iran will be very pleased, i think, try to, well, even imagine these financial flows, weapons programs, what a palestinian state could be, i think even its supporters of this idea now, have a faint idea of ​​what it could be, in in what format, therefore, having already passed through the events of the arab spring, and having come out of them as winners, because these regimes have also strengthened,

to conduct some such expe'. in itself near the border, let it be better for them israel, a relatively predictable, palestinian enclave, through which you can always rush into israel there, mess with anything, whatever they say , look, and on the other hand, have a reliable border with them, because mr. mykhailo , i.e. did i understand correctly that in the dry remnant the situation in the middle east, that is, around israel, will not change in any way, years, maybe decade, that is, there will be such an enclave here , there will be judea samaria, there will be hezbola in lebanon , refugees there, well, in short, nothing has changed, and here we have to go back to where we started, maloney said, if russia can be contained in ukraine, if it is possible to contain iran, to prevent it from further steps through various diplomatic and non-diplomatic

ways, the strengthening of china and in general some forces in the middle east will not change anything, if democracy will retreat even further due to especially such not very determined westerners leaders, in which the elections are now held, the balance of power may change, far not in favor of israel and not in favor of ukraine, unfortunately, that's why it seems to me that the medium-term forecast is something like this, yes, well, it's just hard for me to imagine that even trump, who is not you... as everyone says, while we do not know in ukraine, he is on the contrary, he has excellent relations with israel. israel is tougher, and if it is about ukraine, we can't say anything, but trump's only big international successes of the last cadence are precisely the middle east, this is israel, and even.