the concept, as we would say, of this startup, and she invites to the cooperation of various contemporary artists whom she knows from various cities of the soviet union even then and from the not-yet-then russian empire, i apologize, because we are talking now about the 15- and a year, yes, that is, actually, when this russian empire is already shaking so much, but it is still holding on, and the exter invites malevich, whom she also knows, and they have a good union. and meet at joint exhibitions, and malevich, creating his suprematism, first gives it as sketches for embroidery in the village of verbivka, that is, before showing it at the famous 010 exhibition in petrograd in december 15, he gives these sketches, probably somewhere at the end of summer or the beginning of autumn, because the exhibition of verbivka, it took place in october, that is, after several months, and these peasant women in the village of verbivka are embroidering. suprematist pillows, scarves

, some simple utility items, yes, utility items, and decorate them with these abstract forms, that is, in fact, if these peasant women were the first, the first audience, the first viewers of suprematism, and they in fact, if they immediately start to interact with them, and if they transform them in the form of embroideries into certain objects and objects, that is, this connection, yes, he actually has such a connection. listening to you and thinking, lord, what it could have been, yes , if not, if all this had not been destroyed, yes, how the culture would have developed wonderfully, yes, yes, we can only guess, but in fact these are absolutely incredible things, and actually that exhibition in verbivska, willow embroideries, it was super successful, it traveled around europe, she even traveled across the ocean and all these things were wildly successful, i.e. the year 915

is exactly what is called a leap, his leap into objectlessness, i don't know who it belongs to him, or i would have seen it for the first time, actually in john claude markides, i don't know whose it is, whose saying it is, what it is meant to him , how did he approach this, i know he did it all in secret, yes, because he didn't want to share this creative method at first, because there was so much competition among... environment, yes, well one must understand what time it was, it was such a window of opportunity when artists could create something completely new in art, and , that is, it was a moment when realism, as the only method, had already outlived its usefulness, because new media appeared, with a camera appears, a video appears that captures reality as reliably, easily and quickly as possible, and we, the painters themselves... these visuals, they

rethink why painting then, what is its role, what does the artist then do, and here they are inventing, and each of them their own separate genre, their own separate direction, impressionism, surrealism, expressionism, fauvism, yes , that is, this period, as malevich calls it, the period of the emergence of various isms, yes, futurism, cubofuturism, this is an attempt to find a new meaning of painting, and malavich understood that all these isms are somehow temporary , that is, it is minutes. kind of, yes, here we are working out the idea of ​​movement in painting, yes, is there an impression in painting, and what happens next, well, that’s all, you just repeat it, shymalevych dreamed of reaching a new quality of art, he was absolutely convinced of his own mission, he knew that he will make that revolutionary leap in art that will leave him in history, he just lived by it, i don't know, he was convinced of it since childhood, and he did it right away, that is, he searched for a long time to the right. and we can say that he

had the last periods there before the invention of suprematism, he was just experimenting, almost every month he had some new approaches, there were februaryisms, cubofuturism, something else he was looking for, it was a huge intellectual work, yes, he tried embody what he felt should be art, in some concrete form, yes, in some visual image, and then he, working on such an edition... of sketches for the opera of the futuristic opera victory over the sun, which they did back in the year 13, and it was just such an experiment brave , how is it possible to transform the most conservative form of art, opera, into something absolutely radical, avant-garde, yes, they succeeded, and actually i can spoil the feature film that we are currently working on with my colleagues, malevich, that's what it 's called, he will come out at the end of this year and i hope what will happen in a wide

ukrainian box office, we are actually recreating this atmosphere there, of this absolutely incredible, bold breakthrough, and of the incomprehensible, and of readiness to... be struck by an absolute defeat and lack of understanding of the audience, but to carry out this an artistic gesture, this is this radical and some radical some difference from everything that was before, and here in one of the sets he used just black for a black curtain, it was just a black curtain that completely covered the stage and through it so the sun was breaking through there, and he, in the 15th year, looking through these sketches, stumbles upon this black... square and he understands that it is it, that is, he even had such a moment when he described what he experienced as so mystical experience, that is, he says: i just saw lightning in my eyes, i just something like this happened to me, i did not understand what was happening to me, i could not eat or drink for a week, i just thought about what i did, that is, it just dawned on him at some

point that this is it, this image, and in fact, suprematism as a certain certain certain such a series of it. the one that he exhibited in the 15th year was on fire, it appeared very quickly, there were even technological problems, because he did not have time to do all this, so the whips had to be dried, there was not enough soil , the primer dried, then they cracked, yes and now they are looking for some additional meanings in this, although it was just such a good deal, but he is a technological deal, because he did not have time to dry it all, it was just burning under his hands, he had to do it quickly, quickly, besides, she was competition, but he was not alone, there was another. there were other artists with whom they competed, it was like this intellectual-artistic environment, very bubbling, who would be the first, who would invent something that would impress everyone else, and yes, he hid it, he tried there to no one knew before that, only two

people there knew, it seems, and his closest friends until the 15th year, and the ukrainian peasant women from the village of verbivka, yes, but yes, speaking of what, in fact, he did, what was this trance is a radical change. he broke the connection of art and reality, that is, all art before malevich, it somehow appeals to reality, yes, even if these are conditional abstractions of kandinsky, they still appeal to reality, because they appeal to a certain psychological world of ours, that's how we experience something , what sensations, but these experiences and sensations are all caused in a certain way, or if they have some emotional impulse from reality. speaks very coldly, mathematically, i would say, very abstractly: i don't even have emotions needed in order to create something new, i have enough color and form and a white canvas, that's all, i can endlessly create worlds because i have color and form, and on this he bases

his system of suprematism, moreover, he understands that it's a complex intellectual construction that not everyone can see in a black square, and he writes a pamphlet and publishes it with... this exhibition with this pamphlet from cubism and futurism to suprematism, in which he explains what to read, yes, how is it you need to understand art, it is also a gesture, which later will become the basis of modern art, now art outside the context, outside the text , additional does not exist, you will not understand if you do not read, if you do not make an effort on yourself, yamalevych said that everyone for some reason believes that art should be adapted to our understanding , and i believe that we should adapt ourselves and our heads to understanding art. it's amazing and you know what's amazing to me, when i read these texts of his, it's not a nugget who says it, but he is often called a nugget there, a person who received a very good education there and that's all. but when he writes about art, he is philosophy, he speaks as a philosopher, this is a philosophical thought, but i remember that there was

such a benois, i think alexander benois, a russian artist, he is also a writer, and he said that... with his black square, malevich blocked everything that was good and tender in art, he blocked everything that was good and tender, this is not a verbatim quote, but whether there were many people or resistance in the art of that time, even before the bolshevik coup , even before soviet power, was there resistance to this, this philosophy malevich, without a doubt, it was a terrible scandal, that is... the criticism was simply merciless, he was pelted with mud, he was accused of everything, for whatever reason, it turned him on even more, yes, and as we understand, it did not end 100 there a few years ago, and today in the academy of arts in kyiv they don’t understand the same,

yes, that is, it’s the same tradition, but malevich really attacked all this nonsense, he really said that all these museums, which in there are us with all his madonnas and venuses, it should all be... thrown into the trash, because art must be modern, or it doesn't exist, it shouldn't exist at all, he rejected this beauty, we would say, yes this sophistication of form that did not respond. does not give the spirit to the need, malevich in this sense was very much like that, well, you can say a constructivist, because he believed that art should be adapted to life, if art does not directly serve the life of people here and now, then it is not needed, then it is not art is something, it is decoration, as he said, decoration, yes, that is something, well, what we now say pops, pops , yes, that is, something that is alienated from a person, yes, his needs, his life, but... he believed that art should be absolutely part of all our lives everywhere, for good reason he there

he designed costumes, for example, hairstyles, clothes, er, furniture, dishes, so for him it was either everywhere, or it's not art? and you asked about tatlin, and i want to ask whether it is true, or whether it is a legend that tatlin, the founder of world constructivism, he was a bandurist. i heard it from dmitry gorbachev, but that they sang songs together with malevich, is this a true story? i would like to spoil our film about malevich a little here again, because we have malevich and tatlin as one of the main characters, and there we touch on this and this topic a little. and yes, the fact that malevich, that tarlin was a bandura artist, is the absolute truth, and this is evidenced by memories and photos, there are photos of tatlin from bandura, moreover, he... made banduras himself, that is, these are his his e-reliefs

are so-called, yes, that is, or counter-reliefs, lo these objects are actually a bandura disassembled in the cubist sense, yes , that is, if, for example, picasso in his cubist works refers to the guitar, which was part of his culture, yes spanish or catalan, then for tatlin this is a prototype of these stretched there are strings in the corner... the bandura is obvious, that is, he disassembled it, assembled it, he constructed it , it inspired him, and whether they sang malevich-statlinim, maybe we don’t know for sure, but there was a period when they communicated very well , there are even pictures that malevich tried to destroy, but they reached our time, demelevich and tatlin were at the same party, and they could have sung ukrainian songs, the wind was howling very loudly in the field, dmytro gorbachev says that i don't know this song, but even, and even. .. that he said that he had not yet died of ukraine, neither glory nor will, he sang in those

days, if we spoil, let's go a little further behind the spoiler, who plays malevich, can you reveal? yes, of course, this is already public information, vitaly azhnov plays malevich in the main role, he is a theater actor, but we chose him, and tatlina plays young actor, oleksandr novikov, he is less, probably known as his own cinema. actor, but he's so structurally similar to tatlin that we just couldn't help but cast him in the role, and he's very good, very good. now i definitely want to ask you about this dramatic story, i know that this is not the first time that you will tell about it, but i think that not so many people know this story about malevich's testament, about how he thought out his funeral and your burial and your grave, and what is all this? it ended like this, well actually malevich was ill for a long time, he knew that the disease was

incurable, and he had time to prepare for his farewell. as a true artist, he turned his funeral into a performance, and he himself wrote the funeral script, he drew a sketch, he actually left a will and what to do. where and so on, and actually according to this will, according to this scenario, everything happened, and this was probably also his protest against the regime, against the system, yes, when he was actually able to realize his artistic gesture at the moment when in fact the system is already there pressed a person and his freedom to the wall, yes, that is, this is the 35th year, this is the moment when malevich is already outside of any permitted art, that is, he has already... for several years, it is not possible to exhibit or talk about him at all , in fact, at this moment

he should have been forgotten, but nevertheless, thousands of people who remembered him, loved him, respected him, his students, followers, supporters, gathered at his funeral, and he was to be buried in such a wide coffin, with with outstretched arms, a cross, a circle and a square were to be painted on the lid of this coffin, this actually a supremacist triptych. but the censor did not allow the cross to be painted, because it saw it as a symbol of christianity, although it had a completely different meaning for malevich, and one of his students actually adapted it a little. this coffin was realized according to the sketch of his student, malevich was transported from leningrad to moscow, there his body was burned and his ashes were buried near nemchynivka, this village was near moscow, where their family dacha was, where he liked to visit, and

actually behind the village, under an oak tree, that is, this one love for nature, for some free spaces, it... if it was embodied in his last will, this grave was ultimately lost, lost, and now, as of now, there are neither ashes nor the actual exact place of his burial, and what's more, his last will has not been implemented, in his will it is said to put a vertical column on the grave, that is what he called an architect, an architect is such an architectural form that he created during the 20s, so this form is... similar on such a cloud, i don't know just such a tall column , and to put a telescope on top so that every person could see jupiter, that is, his last will was a desire for a person to realize himself as a cosmic unit, as a cosmic entity, instead, they say that where his grave was, there is a residential complex, some russian,

yes, and even, i don't know if it's true, oleksandr royburd told me that there is almost a parking lot there. that is, the entrance to the parking lot at his masha's grave and yes, well, actually there some time ago, a few years ago, his family and some artists did research, aerial photography, trying to at least somehow establish where this grave was, and now they assume that the place where it was is now the territory of a closed private residential complex, and exactly at this place there is a parking lot, a playground, that is, some these are the zones and... in terms of commuting, and i know that there was some kind of litigation, some kind of court case between this residential complex, which means that they were trying to somehow win back this piece of land, but what is there in the swamps is no longer of interest to us, but just as a metaphor attitude of russia to its artists and not only their own, but also those they want to appropriate, simply bright. thank you tetyana, tetyana

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my name is khrystyna yatskiv, i congratulate ayder muzhdabaev, selyam aleykum. and today we are talking about the second anniversary of the large-scale invasion of the russian federation into ukraine and about the 10th anniversary, in principle , the dates do not match, but it is simply about days, the tenth anniversary of the actual beginning of the war against ukraine, the beginning of the occupation of crimea, and we no one is talking about it, we... have to remind everyone about it, including to our foreign partners that everything started in crimea, and everything must end in crimea as well, as our colleague sivgil musaeva said, a long, long time ago, but... it's true, uh, uh, really, 10 years of full-fledged armed aggression of the russian federation against

ukraine, and it is still quite difficult for me to accept this new language of ours from two years ago, a large-scale invasion, or full-scale aggression, what the russians did in crimea, this is an act of military aggression, and for those... who lost their homes in the crimea and who is now in the occupation, for them this large scale is measured, maybe yes, not by bombs and rockets until recently, but nevertheless by expulsion, yes, violations of rights, slavery, etc., and i know, it's actually good that you asked, because you brought up this topic , because someone calls it a full-scale invasion, someone a total invasion, for myself i define it as a big war, well, it’s just big in scale, and the essence of it is the war, this is the 14th year , the big war is the 22nd year, i i think that in

principle, in general, it is correct, i don't know if you agree with me, but i say so absolutely, and in fact, let us remind you that ukraine continues to effectively resist the russian occupier, we have tremendous success. in the context of the destroyed russians, the destroyed russian equipment, and we really want these successes to multiply, and we also want the lives of our soldiers to remain as valuable as possible, and here it is definitely worth reminding about the collection that we will support, that you always remember and thank you to all the viewers for remembering what we in this program call for every time... to donate to a specific collection for a specific unit for the 48th a separate assault battalion named after noman chilibijahan, whose commander is the director,

head of the tv channel lenur slyamov, now he is the captain of the armed forces of ukraine and the commander of this assault unit, the so-called crimean, he is the only large crimean unit, ukrainians, crimeans and foreigners fight together there, even who don't... don't care, don't care about the fate of ukraine and the fate of crimea. we are collecting right now, we need to close the collection, almost two-thirds of it, a little more, has been collected there. on night drones you can see all the details and numbers and e-e qr-codes, and paypal, and everything absolutely, what is needed, for night drones, that is, for fpv drones with thermal. what is it called , thermal imaging cameras, i'm sorry , i'm not a fikvet, but i know for sure that they are very necessary, very useful, now, each of these

drones, it serves to protect, protect our fighters, and strike the enemies, their technique is impressive, these drones are a little more powerful than ordinary ones, they cost more than 30 hryvnias, but it is effective and it saves. tya on our fighting officers and allows ours to hold on where you know, hold on sometimes it almost seems that it is impossible, because the open space of our southern direction, there is water and steppe, and there are very few even forests and trees, it is very difficult there, and these drones, they solve a lot of things, throughout the program there will be this qr code and card number, join the collection , it is noble, it is right, if we say it. here about crimea and ukraine and about our war, which, we remind you, has been going on for 10 years. ugh. and, probably, it would be logical to also say

that this week, before you and i saw each other on the air, a fairly large-scale all-ukrainian collection for naval drones was launched, which have already got the name "ssibi", now the whole of ukraine actually collects on them, why do we mention them, eh, because it's about the real thing. the black sea, this hints at troubles for the black sea fleet of the russian federation, which has a base in crimea, and of course, in our beraber project, we cannot help but say this, this is a cool thing, because in fact the greatest successes, here i agree with everyone by experts, well, who am i to agree that there is no expert, but simply it is visible even to such an expert in quotation marks as i, who is the most effective, the most effective this past year was... in the liberation of the black sea, a sea which they considered to be almost their internal sea, that is , they were already there, i don't know, raiding

the countries of nato countries, there... they felt free, now a little not so freely and thanks to these drones, which are very effective, by the way, there are actually no analogues in the russian terrorist army of such drones, this is know-how in fact, and the british are already learning something else from us, the fact is that the russians are actually trying to get along and promise to launch something serial production of not only unmanned aerial vehicles, but also marine drones. drones, but right there, yes, as they say, all the salt is in the mastery of application, and here is the combination of moves in the application of different means, this is cool, and so far only the defense forces of ukraine can do this, cool, you know, i want to add , if it was about drones, we didn't prepare, i didn't know if the best military expert in this studio could even be there, now we'll add a really professional military man, but oh well. for me

the best military expert closest to me, a military expert, mrs. khrystyna yatskiv, er, led this conversation, there is such a one, recently shuigu, the so-called, this ghoul, appeared before putin, he reported, he lied to him about the fact that they had cleared plasdarm there on the left bank dnipro, that’s right, he lied and lied, and he said there that it is special, so there is such a feature that, ah,... ukrainians use heavy drones for supplying ammunition for and also for evacuation, he is i don't think he said it, but i also know about it, yes, that is, drones are used, they are heavy bombers drones are also used to deliver the necessary products, water and shells, mines, grenades, cartridges, etc., i am very proud that the company is one of the best. who

make these heavy drones, there is a company called gurzoo of defense, and you know why, because my friend pavlo fitblum, who founded this company, and he found like-minded people, inventors, very cool, who made this really cool heavy shot drone, you can watch, read, go to facebook pages, why not subscribe to the channel, there are interesting shots, by the way, it's always fun. defense ugh, why gorzov, because pavel and i agreed to meet there, we last saw each other in the crimea there, that’s why the drone is ukrainian, it’s the same beauty and strength as khrystyna yaskiv in our studio, thank you, thank you ayder, it’s very nice , and you still say that i am a military expert, he just talked about super drones, about which there may not have been enough information somewhere in the public space, but let's generally try to assess the military situation around the black sea,

around crimea with serhii brachuk, the spokesman. of the south volunteer army. mr. serhiu, congratulations, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, glory to the armed forces. welcome to the studio, glad to see you, friends. salam aleikum. i will allow myself to begin with the news, a very cautious one, which comes to us from the german bundestag. yehor cherniev, people's deputy of ukraine, reported yesterday that there was a vote on the recommendation to provide ukraine with long -range systems for delivering pinpoint strikes deep in the rear of the russian aggressor. cherniv says. that we are talking about the tauruses, although, in my opinion, it would be possible to argue whether this is exactly what the bundestag had in mind in its recommendations, but i will simply remind you that it is the tauris that is currently considered one of the main striking forces that can cause really significant and long-term damage to the kerch bridge, which remains the logistical artery of the russians to crimea. mr.

serhiy, do you have any hope? in particular, on a similar type of weapon, is it possible for you , in particular, as a person who already knows military affairs, to have a different vision of what to do with the bridge, well, what to do with the bridge, then here we clearly have a common assessment, it is an illegal structure, which must be destroyed, demolished, coma so nice, it's more pleasing to my ear when we say destroyed, actually, if we 're talking about taurus, of course, i don't want ... our audience to understand that this is some kind of strange military toy that will appear on the battlefield, and the war will end immediately, well , first of all, we are really talking about the fact that the recommendations were voted, as a military person, i always love the result, you know, i will compare it with the famous valery vasiliovich lobanovsky’s statement that the game is forgotten, the result remains , actually i am talking about the result, about what happens when the enemy is on itself...