objects and objects, that is, this connection is yes, it actually has such a multi-layeredness, so i sit all the time, listening to you and thinking, my god, what could it be, yes, if not, if all this had not been destroyed, yes, no matter how the culture developed amazingly, yes, yes, we can only guess, but in fact these are absolutely incredible things, and in fact the exhibition of verbivska willow embroideries, it was super successful, it traveled around europe, it even... overseas and traveled and all these things were wildly successful, so this is the year 915 - this is exactly what is called a leap, his leap into objectlessness, i don't know who it belongs to, him or i would have seen it for the first time actually on claude marquis, i don't know whose it is, whose saying it is, what it meant for him , like this, how he approached this, i know that he did all this in secret, yes, because he didn't want

to share this... what method at first, because there was a lot of competition in the environment, well , you have to understand what kind of time it was, it was such a window of opportunity when artists could create something completely new in art, and that is, it was a moment when realism as a single method had already outlived its usefulness, because new media appeared, a photo camera appeared, a video appeared, which captures reality as much as possible. that's right , easily and quickly, and painters, actually, visual artists, they rethink why painting then , what is its role, what does an artist do then, and here they invent and each of your separate genres has its own separate direction, impressionism, surrealism, expressionism, fauvism, yes, that is, this period, as malevich calls it, the period of emergence of various isms, yes futurism, cubofuturism is an attempt to find a new meaning of painting, and i didn't... understand that

all these isms are temporary in one way or another, that is , it is a kind of wave, yes, here we are working out the idea of ​​movement in painting, yes, there are impressions in painting, and what's next, that's all , you just keep repeating it, malevich dreamed of reaching a new quality of art, he was absolutely convinced of his own mission, he knew that he would make that revolutionary leap in art that would leave him in history, he he just lived by it, i don't know was convinced of this. since childhood , and he did it right away, that is, he searched for a long time in fact, and you can say that he had the last periods there before the invention of suprematism, he simply experimented, almost every month he had some new approaches, there were februaryisms, cubofuturism, something also, he, he was looking for, it was a huge intellectual work, yes, he tried to embody what he felt, what art should be in some concrete form, yes, in some visual image, and then...

working on such an edition sketches for the opera of the futuristic opera victory over the sun, which they did back in the 13th year, and it was such an extremely bold experiment, how can the most conservative art form of opera be transformed into something absolutely radical, avant-garde, yes, they succeeded, and actually i can spoil it here a feature film that we are currently working on with colleagues. malevich, that 's what it's called, it will be released at the end of this year, and i hope that it will be widely distributed in ukraine, we are actually recreating this atmosphere there, and this absolutely some incredible bold breakthrough yes in the incomprehensible yes and readiness to encounter an absolute kind of defeat and misunderstanding of the audience, but to make this artistic gesture, this here this radical and some radical some difference from everything that was before, and here... here

there, in one of the sets, he used just a black curtain, it was just a black curtain that completely covered the stage, and through it, so the sun was breaking through, and he, in the 15th year, looking through these sketches, came across this black square , and he understands that this is it, that is, he even had such a moment when he described what he experienced as such a mystical experience, that is, he says, i just saw lightning in the eyes, i i just something like that with me in... i don't understood what was happening to me, i could not eat or drink for a week, i just thought about what i had done, that is, it just dawned on him at some point that this is it, this image, and in fact suprematism as a certain a certain certain series of his works, the one he exhibited in the 15th year, appears very quickly, there even there were technological problems, because he did not have time to do all this, so the whips had to be dried, there was not enough soil, the primer dried. and then they

cracked, and now they are looking for some additional meanings in this, although it was just such a good gang, but he is a technological gang, because he did not have time to dry it all, it was just burning under his hands, he had to quickly... quickly to do it, besides there was competition, yes, he was not alone, there was also tatlin, there were other artists with whom they competed, it was as if here was such an intellectual and artistic environment, it was very bubbling, who would be the first, who would invent something that would impress everyone else, and yes, he hid it, he tried there so that no one knew about it, only two people there knew, it seems that his closest friends before the age of 15 and the ukrainian peasant women from the village of verbitka, yes, but yes... talking about what exactly he did, what was this trans- radical change, he broke the connection between art and reality , that is, all art before malevich, it in one way or another appeals to reality, yes, even if these are kandinsky's conditional abstractions, they still

appeal to reality, because they appeal to a certain psychological world of ours, how we experience something, what sensations, but these experiences and sensations are all equal in a certain way. .. caused by yes, or if they have some emotional impulse from reality. malevich speaks very coldly, mathematically, i would say, very abstractly: i don't even need emotions in order to create something new, color and form and a white canvas are enough for me, that's all, i can do it endlessly to create worlds, because i have color and form, and on this he bases his system of suprematism, moreover, he understands that this is a complex intellectual construction that may not ... everyone can see in a black square, and he writes a pamphlet and together with this exhibition publishes this brochure from cubism and futurism to suprematism, in which he explains what should be read, and how this art should be understood, it is also a gesture that will later become the basis of modern art, now

art is out of context, out of text additional does not exist, you will not understand if you if you don't read it, you won't make an effort, yomalevich used to say that everyone for some reason thinks that art should be adapted. not to our understanding, but i believe that we should adapt ourselves and our heads to the understanding of art, it is amazing, and you know what is amazing to me, when i read these texts of his, it is not a nugget that says this, but it is often there is called a nugget, a person who got such a piece of the world there and everything, but when he writes about art, he is philosophy, he speaks like a philosopher, it is a philosophical thought, but i remember that there was such a benois, i think alexander... a russian artist, he is also a writer, and he said that malevich with his black square blocked in art, in art everything that was good and tender, he blocked everything that was good and tender, this is not

a verbatim quote, but how many people, was there resistance in the art of that time, even before the bolshevik coup, even before the soviet government, was there resistance to this? to this philosophy of malevich, it was undoubtedly a terrible scandal, that is, the criticism was simply merciless, he was pelted with mud, he was accused of everything there, for whatever reason, and it turned him on even more, yes, and as we understand, it did not end there 100 or so years ago, and the same is true today at the academy of arts in kyiv if they don't understand, yes, that is, it 's the same tradition, but malevich really, he encroached on this whole thing, he really said that all the museums we have with all his madonnas and venuses should be thrown into the trash, so that art must be modern, or it is not, should, not should be in general, he rejected this beauty, we would say, yes, this refinement of form, which does not correspond to the spirit

of the need, malevich in this sense he was very much like that, well, you can say a constructivist, because he believed that art should be adapted to life, if art does not serve life, without... mediocre here now , people do not need it, then it is not art, it is something, it is decoration, as he said, decoration, yes, that is , it is something, well, that, that we now say pops, pops, yes, that is, something alienated from man, yes, his needs, his life, malevich believed that art should be absolutely part of all our lives everywhere, it was not for nothing that he designed costumes there, for example, hairstyles, clothes, we... furniture, dishes, that is, for him it was or everywhere, or it’s not art, but you asked about tatlin, and i want to ask if it’s true, or is it, is it a legend that tatlin, the founder of world constructivism, he was a bandurist, i heard

it from dmitry gorbachev, but that they sang songs together with malevich, this is a true story, i want to spoil it here again a little bit, our film is about malevich, because... we have malevich tatlin as one of the main characters, and there we touch on this and that topic a little bit, and yes, the fact that malevich, the fact that tarlin was a bandurist, is an absolute true, and this... memories and photos testify to this, there are photos of tatlin with bandura, moreover, he himself made banduras, that is , his, these are his so-called reliefs, yes, that is, or counter-reliefs, these are these objects , this is actually a bandura disassembled in the cubist sense, yes, that is, if, for example, picasso, in his cubist works, turns to the guitar, which was part of his culture, yes, spanish or catalan, for... tatlin, this kind of prototype of these stretched strings in the corner is the bandura,

obviously, that is, he disassembled it, assembled it, he constructed it, she inspired him, and whether malevich sang with tatlin, we may not know for sure, but there was a period when they communicated very well, there are even photographs that malevich tried to destroy, but they have reached our time, where malevich and tatlin were at the same party and could have been could sing ukrainian songs, but the wind was howling very loudly in the field. dmytro gorbachev says that i do not know this song, but even, and even that he, they say, had not yet died of ukraine, neither glory nor volya, sang in those times, if we 're going to spoil it, let's go a little further behind the spoiler, who plays malevich, can you reveal? yes, of course, this is already public information, vitaly azhnov plays malevich in the main role here, he is a theater actor, but now we have trained him to be tatlin, and tatlin is played by a young actor e. oleksandr novikov, he less known, probably, as an actual film actor,

but he is so structurally similar to tatlin that we just couldn't help but cast him in this role, and he played it very well, very well, now i definitely want to ask you about this dramatic the story, i know that this is not the first time you will tell about it, but i think that not so many people know this story about malevich's will, about how he ... thought out his funeral and his burial and his grave, and what is it all over yes, well, actually malevich was sick for a long time, he knew that the disease incurable, and he had time to prepare for his farewell, he, like a true artist , turned his funeral into a performance and he himself wrote the script of the funeral, he drew a sketch. he actually left a will and what to do, where and so on, and in fact

everything happened according to this will according to this scenario, and this was probably also his protest against the regime, against the system, yes, when he actually made his artistic gesture was able to embody at the moment when in fact the system had already pressed a person and his freedom to the wall, yes, i.e. this is the 35th year, this is the moment when malevich is in... already outside of any permitted art, i.e. he has not been exhibited or talked about for several years, in fact he should have been forgotten by this moment, but nevertheless , thousands of people gather at his funeral who remembered him, loved him, respected him, his students, followers, supporters, he was to be buried in such a wide coffin, with arms outstretched on the lid of this coffin were to be painted... a cross, a circle and a square, this is actually a supremacist triptych, but censorship is not

allowed me to draw a cross, because she saw it as a symbol of christianity, although for malevich it had a completely different meaning, and actually one of his students had already adapted this coffin a little, and it was actually realized according to the sketch of his student, and malevich was from leningrad they transported him to moscow, there his... body was burned and his body was buried near nemchynivka, this village was near moscow, where their family dacha was, where he liked to spend time, and actually outside the village, under an oak tree, that is, his love for nature , to some free spaces, if it were embodied in his last will. this grave was eventually lost, lost, and now, as of now, there are no ashes, nor the actual exact place of his burial. and what's more,... his last will has not been implemented, in his will it is said

to put a vertical column on the grave, that's what he called an architect, an architect is such architectural forms that he created during the 20s, so this shape is so similar to such a skyscraper, i don't know, it's just a column so high, and put a telescope on top so that every person could see jupiter, that is, his last will was the desire for man to realize himself as a cosmic unit, as a cosmic entity. instead, they say that where his grave was there is a residential complex, some russian, yes, and even, i named it. is it true, oleksandr royburd told me that there is almost a parking lot there, that is, the entrance to the parking lot at his grave, well, actually there some time ago, a few years ago, his family and some artists did research, aerial photography, trying to at least somehow establish where this grave was, and here they are it is assumed that the place where she was is

now the territory of some closed private zhyk, and it is precisely at this place that there is a parking lot. a children's playground, that is , these are some such zones and places of residence, and i know that there was some kind of litigation, some kind of court case between this residential complex , which means that they sought to somehow win back this piece of land, but what is there in the marshes is not of interest to us anymore, but simply as a metaphor for russia's attitude to its artists, and not only its own, but also those they want to appropriate, is simply vivid. thank you tatiana. tatiana filetska, the creative director of the ukrainian institute, was with us today. thank you for this conversation, thank you to all our viewers who watched, i think it was a wonderful, interesting conversation to understand, first of all, who we are, what is our identity and what marks are our ukrainian marks. thank you and see you next week. these were proper names.

thank you. vasyl zima's big broadcast, two hours of air time, 2 hours of your time, two hours to learn about the war and what the world is about, two hours to be informed economic news and sports news, two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become a native language for many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio, events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for smart people and the sky evening on espresso. congratulations, this is a joint project of the espresso tv channel and the atr tv channel, together with beraber. my name is khrystyna yatskiv, i congratulate ayder muzhdabaev. selyam aleykum, khrystyna khanim. alaykum salaam,

and today we are talking about the second anniversary of the large-scale russian invasion. federation in ukraine and about and about the 10th c in principle, it is already the anniversary , the dates do not match a bit, but it is just that it is talking about the days, the 10th anniversary, of the actual beginning, well, the war against ukraine, the beginning of the occupation of crimea, and we are nobody about it, we have to remind everyone about it, and in that including our foreign partners, that everything started with crimea, and everything must end. in crimea, as our colleague sivgil musaeva said, a long, long time ago, but it is true. ugh. and indeed, 10 years of full-fledged armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine. and i still have a hard time accepting it this new language of ours is already two years old,

a large-scale invasion, or a full-scale aggression. what russia... did in crimea is an act of military aggression, and for those who lost their homes in crimea and who are now under occupation, for them this large scale is measured, perhaps not by bombs and missiles until recently, but nevertheless, banishment, yes, violation of rights, slavery, etc., and i know, it's actually good that you asked, because we brought up this topic, because someone calls it a drunkard. a staff invasion, someone a total invasion, and me for myself, i define it as a big war, well, it is just big in scale, but the point is that the war is the 14th year, the big war is the 22nd year, i think that in principle, in general , it is correct, i don't know , do you agree with me, but i will say so, and in fact,

let us remind you that ukraine continues to effectively resist the russian ... quantum, we have colossal successes in the context of destroyed russians, destroyed russian equipment, and we really want these successes to multiply , and we also want the lives of our soldiers to remain as valuable as possible, and here, ayder, it is worth it sure to remind you about the fundraiser that we'll be supporting that you always remember and thank you to all the viewers that you remember that... we in this program every time we call for donations to a specific fundraiser for a specific unit for the 48th of a separate assault battalion named after noman chelidzhih. the commander of which is the director, the head of the tv channel ruslyamov, now he is the captain of the armed forces of ukraine and the commander of this assault unit, the so-called

crimean unit, he is the only large crimean unit, ukrainians and crimeans are fighting together there and foreigners, even those who do not care about the fate of ukraine and the fate of crimea, and we are collecting just now, we must close the collection there. two-thirds of almost a little more is collected, for night drones you can see all the details and numbers and qr-codes and paypal and absolutely everything you need for night drones, that is, for fpv drones with thermal, as it is called, thermal imaging cameras, i 'm sorry, i'm not a fikvet, but i know for sure that they are very necessary. very useful now, each of these drones serves to protect, protect our fighters and impress

enemies, their equipment is impressive, these drones are a little more powerful than ordinary ones, they cost more than 30, hryvnias, but it is effective and it saves the lives of our soldiers-officers and allows us to hold on where you know, hold on sometimes it almost seems that. .. it is impossible, because the open space of our southern direction, there is water and steppe, and there are very few even forests and trees, it is very difficult there, and these drones, they solve a lot of things, throughout the program there will be this qr code and card number, join to the assembly, it is noble, it is correct, if we are talking about the crimea and about ukraine and about our ongoing war, we have been reminding for 10 years already, ugh, and it will probably be... logical to also say that this week, while you and i did not see each other on the air, a fairly large-scale all-ukrainian gathering for naval drones

, which have already received the name see babyby, now the whole of ukraine is actually collecting on them, why do we mention them, because it is about the black sea itself, it hints at trouble for the black sea fleet of the russian federation, which has a base in... in crimea, and of course, in our beraber project, we cannot ignore it to say, it's a cool thing, because in fact the greatest successes, here i agree with all the experts, well, who am i to agree that the military expert, no, but it's just visible, even to such an expert in quotes like me, that the most effective, the most effective this past year was in the liberation of the black sea, a sea that they considered almost their own, internal, that is , they are already there... i don't know, nato countries were raiding there, they felt free there, now they are a little not so free, and thanks to this drone, which is very effective,

by the way, there are actually no analogues in the russian army of terrorist drones of this kind, this is actually a no-tau, and the british are already learning something else from us, the fact is that the russians are actually trying to get along and promise to start serial production of not only unmanned aerial vehicles. but also sea drones, unmanned aerial vehicles, but right here , as they say, all the salt is in the mastery of application, and here is the combination of moves in the application of various means, this is cool, and so far only the defense forces of ukraine can do this, cool, you know, i still want to add, if it's about drones happened, we didn't prepare, i didn't know if the best military expert in this studio was even there. now let's bring in a really professional military man, well, for me the best military expert, the closest military expert to me, mrs. khrystyna yatskiv, led

this conversation, so recently shuigu , this so-called ghoul, appeared before putin, he reported, he lied to him about the fact that they cleaned out plazdar on the left bank of the dnieper there, he just lied and lied, and he said there that... special, so there is such a feature is that the ukrainians use heavy drones for the supply of ammunition, for and also for the evacuation of couples, he did not say this , it seems, but i also know about it, yes, that is, drones are used, they are bombing drones, heavy drones, they are also used to supply the necessary there and products, water and shells, mines there, grenades, etc., i am very proud that the company, one of the best companies that manufactures these heavy drones, is a company called gurzoo of defense, you know

why? because my friend pavlo filblum, who founded this company, uh, and he found like-minded people, inventors, very cool, who made this really cool heavy shot drone, you can look, read, go to the facebook pages, why not subscribe to the channel, there are interesting shots, by the way, i was always worried about defense, huh, and why was it because pavel and i agreed to meet there, we saw each other last time in the crimea, that's why the drones are ukrainian. this is the same beauty and strength as khrystyna yaskiv in our studio. thank you, thank you ayder, very nice. and you say that i am a military expert. he just talked about super drones told about which, perhaps, somewhere in the public space there was not enough information. but, let's generally try to assess the military situation around the black sea, around the crimea with serhiy bratchuk, the spokesman of the ukrainian volunteer army south. mr. serhiy, congratulations, glory to ukraine.

glory to the heroes, glory to the armed forces. welcome to the studio, glad to see you. friends myself. i will allow myself to begin with the news, a very cautious one, which comes to us from the german bundestag. yehor cherniev, people's deputy of ukraine , reported yesterday that there was a yes vote a recommendation to provide ukraine with long- range systems for delivering pinpoint strikes deep in the rear of the russian aggressor. cherniv says that it is about taurus. although, in my opinion, it would be possible to argue whether this is the case. meant the bundestag in its recommendations, but i will simply remind you that it is the taures that is now considered as one of the main striking forces that can cause really significant and lasting damage to the kerch bridge, which remains the russians' logistical artery to crimea. mr. serhiy, do you hope, in particular, on a similar type of weapon, is it possible that you, in particular, as a person who already knows about...

military affairs, have a different vision of what to do with the bridge? well, what to do with the bridge , we clearly have a common assessment here, it is an illegal structure that should be destroyed, demolished, who is so pleased, it pleases my ear more when we say that it is destroyed, in fact, if we are talking about taurus, of course, i don't want our viewers to understand that this is some miraculous military toy that will appear on the battlefield and the war will immediately end. well, first of all we are really talking about the fact that the recommendations were voted, as a military man i always love the result, you know, i will compare it with the famous valery vasiliovich lobanovskyi’s saying that the game is forgotten, the result remains, actually i am talking about the result, that when the enemy will feel the blows, including tauros in particular, we will of course be amused by this, we will of course talk about it, and in fact

, you know, today i saw a lot... even, let's say so, an armed menu, which is necessary in order to destroy the crimean bridge, well, first of all, they don’t talk about it out loud, in fact, if they have already said, then how many taurus are needed, how many atakams and so on and the like, actually, i wouldn’t be in such a hurry, this is, first of all, because war is war, war is a cruel and serious matter, so no one will talk about it, how the bridge will be destroyed, but the most important thing is that it will be destroyed, in due time and actually, returning to taurus, of course, i want them to be used as soon as possible, the more if we are talking about our native, temporarily occupied crimea, we understand very well that we are talking not only about the bridge, we are talking about control points, command control points, we are talking about secret objects that are quite important in the defense capability system of the russian occupier in the temporarily occupied territory of crimea, we are actually talking about the black sea fleet

, which needs to be finished very... a lot of work in fact, then of course the taurs will not harm us, they will come in handy, because the command posts, and there are also underground ones, they need to be destroyed, and it would be good such a weapon, but everything must be in a complex, and actually the enemy must feel this work of these missiles, everything must really be in a complex, and there must be drones, both heavy and light, which we are talking about, well, actually, as the saying is already known , that there are not many drones, therefore... we will wait for the result, we will wait for the votes , the decisions of the relevant authorities, in particular the chancellor of germany, but once again i want to remind the audience, perhaps also experts, colleagues, including that there is no tausy at the border, for example , there will be no meeting with the orchestra, they will start to work, and then we will actually find out about it, this is absolutely correct, and if we are talking about our sea, then the enemy is certainly on the lookout...