to find a way to extradite him and thereby save his life. employee, viktor avershyn. you can already reveal the surname, it was next to the red diamond. but the conditions of the country and the conditions of personal safety of the red diamond, which he neglected. these are beaches, walks, calling women to you for entertainment, all this was easily exposed by the sun group. and he was shot, as well as kuzminova. there are many such cases when people neglect personal safety. you have had such cases in ukraine. on the territory of russia, it is generally frequent and dense. some cases, such as, for example, the attempt of violinists in great britain, there skripal and the special services of great britain ensured.

the scope of skrepal's personal security is quite large, but the daughter's call there, the daughter's arrival , of course, revealed the whereabouts, and with the help of the newcomer, an attempt was made on the life of a former employee of the russian intelligence services, so the russian intelligence services in spain and numerous sources quickly identified criminal structures there, which and carried out this attempt and ultimately the murder of kuzminov. it is all connected and shows that people who have threat to personal safety, must take at least elementary measures to ensure personal life. dear mr. general musaev, well, i wanted to ask you how it might look, well, conditionally speaking, there is a certain, so to speak, special service x that is trying to carry out something bloody and terrifying on the territory of another state, well, for example, we take ukraine there, the same and we understand that the enemy can apply. not only its hr

employees, but can use one or another so-called dormant networks or dormant ones structures, yes, well, and accordingly , what do you think would be the directions to work out in order not to allow the use of this instrument of murder. as for the sleeping agents, it is rather a series of american and russian films, call it crosswords. sleeping agents are used very rarely. it was very dangerous for ukraine in the period before the hot phase. such a number of sleeper agents was prepared within the scope of the future aggression against ukraine. and a very large number of them are found, especially at the first stage. sbu of ukraine and gur. they

worked very effectively in the first stage. but what follows is more difficult. what appears is not a sleeping agency, but hidden persons who support russia in its aggression against ukraine from among the citizens of ukraine. therefore , it is necessary to pay special attention now to strengthening within the martial law all processes related to exposure. and the prevention of threats that are part of the fifth column, it is better to call it that than the sleeping agency, dear mr. general musaev, well, the use of criminality, which is known to be international for the implementation of those or other orders from the special services. yes, i know what happened to you, for example, that there were at least two attempts, what did it look like? this is practically the main rule. when an unofficial full

-time employee commits an assassination attempt, an assassination attempt is carried out under the leadership of employees of the special services , in my case there were two assassination attempts, one armed, which was organized by the special services of the russian federation, in particular the fsb, at the request of the leadership of kazakhstan, specifically nazarbayev. at his request, the special services of russia organized. assassination attempt in early 2008, when a group from russian federation, among those people was an fsb employee. they tried to carry out an armed attack, injured my wife, tried to eliminate the opponent of the kazakh regime in my person. if you refer to this example, you can say that in this particular case i used all the necessary normal personal safety measures. that is, i predicted this attack, it

was clear, i kept in touch with my connections, who informed about the preparation of this attempt, without having the opportunity to apply it. my only mistake was in what i allowed such a fact of attack, but considering that i was ready for such an attack, i acted in anticipation and physically resisted the people who attacked, this helped to save myself, unfortunately, my wife was injured, criminal persons were involved in the final phase of this operation . i can't say the structure, from croatia, five people who exactly carried out the last phase of the attack from two sides on our car. after i physically resisted, the special services of austria literally

identified all these persons a day later, they were arrested and through diplomatic channels, austria protested against kazakhstan. precisely to kazakhstan, because the order was from there, and the austrian president refused a planned state visit to kazakhstan in connection with this attempt. it was a powerful diplomatic blow that influenced the subsequent actions of the kazakh authorities towards me and my partner, rakhat aliyev. they stopped these acts of assassination for a long time. regarding russia, of course. they will act against ukrainian citizens on the territory of ukraine, on the territory of europe, and where they consider it effective to kill ukrainian citizens. in order to

to demoralize the country and strengthen its political positions there. well, but someone has to give an order, as far as i understand, in writing and in such a way. way to license this attempt, we understand that after the start of the war , certain rotations took place in the russian special services, perhaps a regrouping, so to speak, of the internal structure. in my opinion, all the measures of such aggressive, intelligence-subversive activities of the russian special services have been taken to the maximum extent today. in all directions, those structures that... previously operated and the experience of which are taken into account, are involved acquired in previous events, all these things were reformatted into a certain rigid scheme for the execution of reconnaissance and subversive actions. all of this in a complex is connected precisely with the tasks

that the russian federation currently performs in relation to ukraine, the use of the fifth column. a special unit has been allocated for it, which analyzes it on a daily basis. works in this regard. new divisions within the gru and fsb, and even more so within the svr, are not being created on this issue. those structures that were created on the eve of the hot phase of the war are maximally involved and generally since 2014. therefore , it is not necessary to say that there are big schematic changes taking place today. the only i drew attention to the fact that quite a large number of employees of the special services seek to move to other areas of work due to fears about working in ukraine. service on the ukrainian line is associated with personal safety, the threat of death and the threat of harm to health. in particular,

some employees transferred to the line of central asia, kazakhstan. we know this from the situation in kazakhstan. in the special services, in the central asian ones, many are practically open there moves and works with great pleasure on the fifth columns, which are in central asia, for the citizens of the central asian states, in particular for kazakhstan, and this line is the most attractive for them. financial support is the same, but in ukraine death awaits them, to put it bluntly. that is why there are such changes, and the strengthening of the work of special services... as for the usa, in connection with the great hopes for the arrival of trump, putin's great friend, work on the svr line has been strengthened. there is no relaxation in ukraine, despite the expansion of the areas of activity

special services therefore, it is necessary to take the most severe countermeasures against the intelligence-subversive terrorist activities of the russian special services against ukraine. navalny's death in the zone was diagnosed with a blood clot even before the autopsy, and so on. we understand that all those diagnoses are bogus. but in any case, we also understand that sechin's son died mysteriously, and tromp was also diagnosed. i will focus only on one thing, in which i am clearly aware: how is the process of control and detention of a political opponent who is in prison? an interdepartmental commission is created. navalny's level is putin's number one opponent in the lineup. the commission includes many departments and structures, first of all vsin, the ministry of internal affairs,

the fsb, the ministry of emergency situations, the ministry of defense and many others. imagine if such a commission works. the goal is not clearly set for her, but the commission understands it perfectly. the goal is to destroy a political prisoner and make it look like a normal, natural death with all the signs and evidence. and the commission is working on this goal. the commission is headed by the deputy head of the federal penitentiary service. as we imagine, no the most important structure in the hierarchy of the russian federation. most importantly, there is some clerk, a full-time employee of the presidential administration, also a member of this commission, the fsb is clearly present there. investigative committees of the ministry of internal affairs are much higher in status, but... not all members of the commission are headed by vsin, and it is very difficult to develop

direct indications of hope in this person's place. they sit for a long time, they sit every month, they take measures to limit relations with the outside world, and most importantly - to try to reorient his political views, this very important. and to ensure what i said at the beginning, a natural death. all these actions were visible in the process. at first , they tried to cause natural death due to hunger, restrictions on the distribution of food. in the end, when navalny took on the guise of a buchenwald prisoner at the end of last year, this method was rejected. because the presentation of the body in the form of a skeleton will immediately show that he was starved to death. they abandoned this method and began to feed him a little. and he was more or less depopulated.

as is known, the change in his political views did almost nothing. therefore, the main thing the goal remained murder. they tried to implement it in various ways, but for a long time nothing worked and did not work. after all, he was killed, all the same, hanged , or tripled as a novice, or artificially created a blood clot with the help of drugs, it is not so important. were committing murder, and at the same time this bureaucratic commission. the system did not achieve the goal it had set for itself. they perfectly understand that the main interest is putin, and they have to fulfill his tasks. how they did it, we all know today this is clear murder. and despite the fact that the head of the commission received an award from putin in an effort to show that he was not. we know how to work, we did everything competently, and putin highly appreciated our work. none of this matters.

the very fact of murder is clearly visible. and it will be used by western countries, and in order to put pressure on the russian federation. and within the country, it manifests itself as a factor that destabilizes public opinion. dear mr. general, i would like to ask you about your future vision. actions of the russian federation, in particular it is about preparation, possibly for new strategic activities against ukraine. finally, biden openly said that putin is mentally ill, and due to his insanity and the presence of a nuclear button, the behavior of the west and the united states is appropriate. changes that are possible or impossible after the elections, in my opinion, depend on many things. first of all. putin himself is driven into conditions where he cannot change his attitude, his aggression against ukraine.

he does not have such an opportunity. if he had everything in order with his head, he would have found it a way to freeze the conflict, how to get out of the conflict with the least political and economic losses. but due to his schizophrenia, he is unable to do this. so it all depends. primarily from ukraine and the countries of the west, from their actions in the future. russia, of course, has some great military potential. the military-industrial complex works at its maximum. a great deal of money and opportunity has been expended in waging this insane war of aggression. and they have the ability to wage this crazy aggressive war for a certain period. actions of the event regarding ukraine come from what biden said about the nuclear button in the hands of a mentally ill person.

how do such actions usually occur? "when the negotiator persuades this madman with a gun, he resorts to certain psychological influences. all the activities of the west in relation to russia and in relation to putin are connected with a gradual increase in pressure, without causing any sudden movements of a madman, this is a gradual transition of red lines, their gradual setting and in case ... even if trump is elected in the us, the actions of the west will move within the framework of a gradual strengthening ukraine's ability to oppose a crazy, aggressive war against its homeland. ukraine has been performing a feat for two years. the whole world is amazed, although we forget about it, that the first effect of

ukraine's victories is somehow smeared today in the wake of some russian successes. armies in avdiyivka, the same kuzminov , the same navalny, go to the treasury of threats that come from the russian federation, therefore the lowering of sentiment that is happening in the world and first of all in ukraine is, of course, temporary, certain changes are not far off. look, the wave continues two years, then one side wins, then the other. today, i agree, the armed forces of both sides. encountered a stoppage. i really do not like the term war of attrition, this term is a favorite in the russian federation. as zaluzhny once said, this is a dead end. yes, dead end. and it corresponds to the situation that has developed today. and this wave-like movement, gradually not that of pacification, but a gradual influence on

the crazy leader of the russian federation, it is a crazy wave today, but tomorrow it will be certain. and violation of red lines, the issue is resolved gradually, slowly, with aviation, with reinforcement long-range missiles in ukraine, if we stop at russia, as you asked, yes, there is a huge potential there, according to the estimates of many military experts and economists, they will have enough finances and activities of the military industry for another 15-2 years, so these two, twelve or two years have to survive primarily to ukraine itself. many objective estimates show that the greater volume depends on ukraine itself. faster training of pilots and other specialists, strengthening of unmanned aviation, which has shown itself well and many other things. and such successes, similar to liberation of kharkiv region, kherson,

black sea territory, will definitely be in ukraine. everyone blames me. i am too optimistic, i say such things, but i just see concrete facts. recently, in one television appearance, it seems that gordon said: he bought shares in the military-industrial complex of the west. i have personally purchased a small amount of ragh metal, bayeres sister, lockhead and a few others. and you know, huge growth. i'm winning big right now because... the stock is going up, it's a powerful prospect to win this war. now we are not talking about the fact that there is a victory, a financial evidence of the strengthening of the military-industrial potential of the countries of the west, and this is an extremely important indicator that it is better to simply be and dictate your terms in the case of peace negotiations in ukraine. if

today we are upset by some small successes of the russian armed forces, then... this situation will change in the near future, i am sure. thank you very much, dear mr. general musaev, for this extremely interesting and informative conversation. and i want to remind our viewers that espresso is currently on the air general alnur musayev, former head of kazakhstan's special services, former adviser to the president of kazakhstan on national security issues worked. well, the time of our program is over, stay with the espresso tv channel. my colleagues will keep you informed. about all the most important events of this day, take care of yourself and your loved ones, see you on the air. congratulations, friends, the saturday political club program, khrystyna

yatskiv, vitaly portnikov, and the second anniversary of the russian federation's large-scale invasion of ukraine are on the air. in general, this week we we are talking about 10 years of russian armed aggression against our state, which started on february 20, 2014 in crimea, and definitely. we will talk about the situation at the front, about the main trends on the frontline and about new approaches that are effectively used by our defense forces to work behind enemy lines. that is why we invite to the conversation ihor romanenko, the founder of the charity fund we will close the sky of ukraine, the deputy chief of the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine from 2006 to the 10th year, lieutenant general. congratulations, mr. igor. we welcome you. so, let's start with the strikes on... novolipitsk metallurgical plant, because this is such high-profile news, the plant is far from the borders of ukraine, 500 km, it seems, great damage, as we know, in general, what is

the expediency and how did it succeed, it was possible thanks to , which is powerful, the development of unmanned, in this case greeting devices, but not only flying ones, because drones are developing and acting, as we see, is taking great strides. and at sea, and there is development on land and under water, tests of such unmanned vehicles have already passed, we see the results, that is, i generally form it as such a triad, russian nuclear is a triad, that is, strategic bombers, submarines, submarines, nuclear and missile mines, and we have unmanned aerial vehicles, a missile program, this is the second and third action special structures. gur, sbu, special operations forces. and in this case, we see how it is combined, that is , the actions of unmanned aerial vehicles directed by, well

, first of all, gur and the sbu, we can learn about how and what they do, whether special operations forces did, after our victory. in in this case, it is a very powerful plant of oxygen production, and you see how ... slorod triggers the hit of the corresponding tsikhs, where he is, he works for military orders, sichen, there is a friend-comrade of putin, the third most powerful financial oligarch in of the russian federation, it is secondly, firstly, it is a military unconditional object, which thanks to the appropriate quality of unmanned intelligence. our forces were able to obtain and deliver a powerful blow to the unmanned aerial vehicles, according to the request, by the way, we have formed a structure of unmanned forces, which

will organize production and use within the state, this is a very correct step. please tell me, mr. igor, that downing is the second in the current year, in the past two months, the downing of an expensive and very important for the russians a50 aircraft, which is in service in their defense forces not very massively, let's put it mildly, all this became possible thanks to the work of the defense forces, namely the air force and the main intelligence agency, details are emerging little by little, of course , military analysts put forward their theories, something will be revealed to us. those who carried out this operation, but can we really talk about a complex, complex story, but still with

the use of the well-known s-200 complex, maybe other tools were also used in addition to it, your point of view, i really like your characterization, i love the s200 complexes , for which i studied, at which i served continuously. even in melona century just in case, and its range is 240-250 km at medium high altitudes, well, compare patriot, the franco-italian sam type or the frankin sam integrated complex, they have well, the range is up to 150 km, that's the old one, the portable one, if it weren't so mobile, but as they say for... the means are foreign, for a couple of years, as some forces in ukraine are trying to convert it into an earth-earth complex, as

the russians did. well, they have made progress somewhere , maybe it is being improved, but now, then , there is a version that it was used for its direct purpose, that is, it is a kind of complex of this action, it was developed as a complex that was supposed to act on long-range reconnaissance aircraft and management, on strategic bombers, group targets and so on, in this case, if it is really... yes, then we are observing its effective use, and now we are moving on to targets, very important targets, which are a50u for the second time, and by the way, with there was information that the il-22 was added to the pair of such a sweet pair, that is, if the americans made the plane, and the vax also...

der e3a in one plane and the corresponding equipment long ago in the last century , the russians were also able to do this on separate planes for two and that is why they are still used, that is, one detects, collects information and transmits the information to the il-22, respectively, and you drop it on ground targets, and on ground means of defeating ground ones. so, this is a very important impression, the elements of the reconnaissance-strike complex, such a modern system, which includes elements that scout targets, and in the air, on the ground and on the water, submit this information to the leadership, they make decisions about the defeat and then in the current time, they use their means of defeat, which are ready for the current time, and in

this. case, this pair is an application of and control of actions, well, such aircraft as the su-34, which are carriers of guided aerial bombs, and we see how the russians used them there in a day up to 60, more than dozens, even more, in avdiivki, and not only that, but also in principle, a blow was struck at such an important element, and i emphasize once again that the issue is not only in the prices there, but the a50, especially in this improved one, means that it costs up to 350 million dollars, plus or minus in terms of equipment, and the equipment is the latest modernization, which they have it, but the il-22 plane is about 50 million, if so, but that's it is an important element of management, and the system.

management increases the effective use of means of defeating the enemy, as we have seen, and knocking out this couple twice in a short period of time, this is the achievement of a high level of action of the air force command, together with the main management of the ministry of defense. and tell the truth, i understand correctly that there are not so many such pairs that can be assigned to... perform these combat tasks and in principle it may be so, well, in the future, as with the black sea fleet, then in in principle, there are many more ships of the black sea fleet, but the destruction of the most important ones seriously reduces the actions of the fleet in the black sea, and so here, if a few more pairs of such aircraft are destroyed, it will mean that the air force the russian federation, as they seem to be officially called, they will simply not be able to perform certain combat tasks, just like that. this is what it looks like,

i.e. there were about a dozen a50s in the air, and somewhere around 3-4 of them had a50s and somewhere six on the contrary, a50 is just 3.4 a6 a50u, and during this time we made an impression on one in belarus and destroyed two airs here, this is... very significant and destroyed maybe two il-22s before that, this is important , plus the syrians helped us with friendly fire, they shot down their own allies on the 22nd, and here in the fleet we know that the black sea fleet has 80 warships and already 30 of them have sunk or dropped uranium.