yes, on such different, i would say, levels, so that kazakhstan ceases to be a tool for russia that allows to circumvent sanctions, and of course, the same applies to armenia, because you understand that when the armenian officials lead negotiations with your western visitors, you tell them about assistance in armaments and other things, they understand very well that if armenia remains a country that can be used instrumentally. to circumvent sanctions, this is a risk to the national security of the same france, it means that when one window opens, another window automatically begins to close, and this should be part of both western policy and our policy, that is why i say that it is not easy, because it is generally difficult for these countries to get out of the russian field, but you see how each of these countries is making either a path to democracy, well, there can be different paths here, when the people themselves decide what kind of power they have... or a path to

new geopolitical alliances, because president aliyev, of course, the wrong person, whatever, has some political competitors for a long time forgot what it was, and by the way, he didn't know, his father still knew, but so tentative, but he took a strong step towards a geopolitical alliance with turkey, huh, and that's what gave his power gave him the opportunity to do it, and president tokayev, he took a strong step towards a geopolitical alliance with china. president tokayev went to celebrate his 70th birthday with a sidjinping. so. well, that's a sign. and of course, it turns out that as soon as this happens, russian influence immediately decreases. that there are two possible ways to reduce russian influence, this is democracy and geopolitical reversal it may happen simultaneously, it may not happen simultaneously. so, our task as states. to countries

that are either democratizing or making a geopolitical turnaround, that is why, by the way, returning to the idea of ​​the visit of the president of ukraine, if it happens, it will be just such a strong signal that we respect the democratic aspirations of, ugh, the armenian people and with respect i refer to the choice of geopolitical reversal made by the president of the republic of azerbaijan, ilham aliyev. to each of these things from a point. ours states, we must treat them with respect , we can say: oh, azerbaijan is not a democratic state, yes, there is a problem with democracy, but if azerbaijan makes a successful geopolitical turn, this will be the way to democratization in the future, because russia can no longer influence internal processes sooner or later, azerbaijani society, it should be its own choice, mature to the need for more transparent procedures, in which every country has its own moment, especially the country. such experience of the state

construction like azerbaijan, where there were democratic elections and coups in this world as well, this is a complex story, and the same with armenia, in armenia the people showed that they are ready for democracy, for respect, for their right to vote, that is , which the ukrainians also went through, which, by the way, later, then led us to a geopolitical reversal, so let's hope that this is also, by the way, to a certain extent, the conclusion of two years of war, which we are talking about in a big war, we are talking about , that after... years of war, the president of ukraine can to expect in baku and yerevan, this is definitely not the result that president putin was hoping for when he issued his criminal order to destroy our country two years ago. thank you christina for this conversation. thank you so much, vitaly portnikov and khrystyna yatskiv. the saturday political club will definitely return to you literally in a week. be with us, support the armed forces of ukraine and believe and help them win.

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the second anniversary of the large-scale invasion of the russian federation into ukraine, and about, and about the 10th, in principle already the anniversary, the dates do not match a little, but it is just there. we are talking about the days, the 10th anniversary, of the actual beginning, well , the war against ukraine, the beginning of the occupation of crimea , and we are nobody about it, we have to remind everyone, including our foreign partners, that everything started with crimea, and everything must end in crimea as well, as our mother said colleague sivgil musayuvu, a long, long time ago, but it's true, uh, and really somewhere... years of full-fledged armed aggression of the russian federation against ukraine, and it's still quite difficult for me to accept this new language of ours from two years ago, a large-scale invasion, or a full-scale aggression .

what the russians did in crimea is an act of military aggression, and for those who lost their homes in crimea and who are now under occupation. for them, this large scale is measured, perhaps not so much by bombs and missiles until recently, but nevertheless, expulsion, yes, violation of rights - slavery , etc., and i know, it's actually good that you asked, because you raised this topic, because some call it a full-scale invasion, some a total invasion, and for myself i define it as a big war, well, it's just that large in scale, and the point is that the war is the 14th year, the great war is the 22nd year, i think that in principle, in general, it is correct, i don't know if you agree with me. in fact, let us remind you that ukraine continues

to effectively resist the russian occupier, we have tremendous success in in the context of the destroyed russians , the destroyed russian equipment, and we really want these successes to multiply, and we also want the lives of our soldiers to remain as valuable as possible, and here it is worth mentioning about the collection that we will support, thank you, as always do you remember, and thank you to all the viewers, for remembering that we in this program every time call to donate to a specific collection for a specific unit for the 48th separate assault battalion named after noman chilibidzhakhan, whose commander is the director, head of the tv channel ruslyamov , now he is the captain of the armed forces of ukraine and commander. of this assault unit , the so-called crimean one, it is the only large

crimean unit, ukrainians, crimeans and foreigners are fighting together there, even those who do not care, do not care about the fate of ukraine and the fate of crimea, but we are gathering right now, we must close the gathering, there are two-thirds of almost a little even more collected, on night drones you can see all the details and numbers. and ee qr-codes, and paypal, absolutely everything you need, for night drones, that is, for fpv drones with thermal, as it is called, thermal imaging cameras, i apologize, yes, i am on fehvets, but i know for a fact that they are very necessary, very useful, now, each of these drones, they serve to protect, protect our fighters and ... hit the enemy, hit their equipment, these drones

are a little more powerful than normal, they cost more than 30,000 hryvnias, but it is effective and it saves the lives of our soldiers-officers and allows us to hold on where you know, holding on sometimes seems almost impossible, because the open space of our southern direction, there is water and steppe, and very little even... forests and trees, it is very difficult there, and these drones, they decide a lot that throughout the program there will be this qr code and card number, join the gathering, it is noble, it is right, if we are talking here about crimea and about ukraine and about our ongoing war, we remind you already 10 years uh, and it would probably be logical to say the same that this week, while you and i did not see each other on the air, was launched on a fairly large scale. the all-ukrainian levy on sea drones, which have already received the name

see babyby, now the whole of ukraine actually collects on them, why are we mentioning them, because it about the black sea itself, it hints at trouble for the black sea fleet of the russian federation, which has a base in crimea, and of course in our bereber project, we can’t help but say that, it’s a cool thing, because actually the biggest successes, here i agree with all. experts, well, who am i to agree that a military expert does not, but simply it is visible even to such an expert in quotes as me, that the most effective, most effective this past year was in the liberation of the black sea, a sea that they already considered almost their own internal, i.e i don't know if they are there anymore, they visited nato countries there, they felt free there, now they are a little not so free and thanks to that. these drones, which are very effective , by the way, there are actually no analogues

of such drones in the russian terrorist army, this is a notau in fact, and the british are already learning something else from us, the fact is that the russians are actually trying to fix something and promise to put it into production the production of not only unmanned aerial vehicles, but also marine drones, drones, but right away , as they say... all the salt is in skill application, and here is a combination of moves in the application of different means, this is cool, and so far only the defense forces of ukraine can do this. cool, you know, what else do i want to add. if it was about drones, we didn't prepare , i didn't know if the best military expert in this studio could even be there, we're now going to add a really professional military man, but well, for me the best military expert, the closest military expert to me is mrs. khrystyna yatskiv made this conversation, there is such

a shoigu, this so-called ghoul, spoke in front of putin, he reported, he... he lied to him about the fact that they cleared plasdar on the left bank of the dnieper there, he just lied and lied, and he said that it was special, so there is such a feature that the ukrainians use heavy drones to deliver ammunition, and for and also for the evacuation of couples, he didn't say that, i think, but i know about that too, yes, that is, drones are used, they are bomber, heavy drones. it is also used for the supply of water, mines, grenades, ammunition, etc. i am very i am proud that one of the best companies that manufacture these heavy drones is a company called gurzuve defense. do you know why? because my friend pavlo filblum,

who founded this company, and he found like-minded people, inventors very. he talked about super drones, about which, perhaps , somewhere in the public space there was not enough information, but let's generally try to assess the military situation around the black sea, around crimea with serhiy brachuk, the spokesman of the ukrainian volunteer army south. mr. serhiy, congratulations, glory glory to ukraine, heroes, glory to the armed forces, welcome to the studio, glad to see you, friends, salam aleikum. i will allow myself to start with the news

, which is very cautious, which comes to us from the german bundestag, its... cherniev, people's deputy of ukraine, reported yesterday that there was a vote on the recommendation to provide ukraine with long-range systems for delivering pinpoint strikes deep in the rear of the russian aggressor. cherniv says that we are talking about the tauruses, although, in my opinion, it would be possible to argue whether this is exactly what the bundestag meant in its recommendations, but i'll just remind you that it is taurus that is considered now as one of the main strike forces that can... cause really significant and long-term damage to the kerch bridge, which remains the russians' logistical artery to crimea. mr. serhiy, do you place your hopes, in particular, on a similar type of weapon, or is it possible that you, in particular, as a person who already knows military affairs, have a different vision of what to do

with the bridge? well, what to do with the bridge, then here is definitely an assessment. we have something in common, this is an illegal building that must be destroyed, demolished, who is so pleased, i am more pleased ear when we say that it is destroyed. actually, if we are talking about tauros, of course, i don't want our viewers to understand that this is some kind of miracle, a military toy that will appear on the battlefield and the war will end immediately. well, first of all, indeed, we are talking about the fact that the recommendations were voted. as a military person, i always love... you know, i will compare it with the famous valery vasiliovych lobanovsky saying that the game is forgotten, the result remains. actually, i am talking about the result, about what happens when the enemy is on himself will feel the blows, including the tauros , of course we will be amused by this, we will of course talk about it, and actually , you know, today i saw a lot, even , let’s say, an armed menu, which is

necessary in order to destroy the crimean bridge , well, first of all, they don’t talk about it out loud on... actually, if they already said, then how many taurus are needed, how many atakams and so on and the like, actually, i wouldn’t be in such a hurry, that’s first of all , because war is war, war is cruel and a serious matter, so that's about it no one will say how the bridge will be destroyed, but the most important thing is that it will be destroyed in time, and actually, returning to taurus, of course, we want them to be used as soon as possible, especially if we are talking about our native... temporarily occupied crimea, we understand very well that it is not only about the bridge, we are talking about control points, command control points, we are talking about secret objects that are quite important in the system. defense capabilities of the russian occupier in the temporarily occupied territory of crimea. we are actually talking about the black sea fleet, which must be finished. there is actually a lot of work, of course the taurs

will not harm us, they will come in handy, because the command posts, and there are also underground ones, they must be destroyed, and it was a good weapon, but everything must be in a complex, and actually the enemy must feel this work of these rockets. everything should be really integrated, and there should be... drones, both heavy and light, which we are talking about, well, actually, as the saying is known by now, there are not many drones, so we will wait for the result, we will wait for the votes, the relevant decisions , in particular the chancellor of germany, but once again i want to remind the audience, perhaps experts, colleagues, too, that no one will meet taurus at the border, for example, with the orchestra, they will start working, and then we about this. we will find out, this is absolutely correct, and if we are talking about our sea, then the enemy is certainly monitoring that we may have something new there, and i hope that this is all in

a complex, it will help us really bring the stage of demilitarization to a logical conclusion crimea, it is happening today, and we are talking about the fact that in crimea, in particular, in the black sea, ukraine is carrying out offensive, i emphasize, offensive actions, this is not a counteroffensive, a counteroffensive is a response to the corresponding offensive actions of the enemy, in the black sea we attack , and you see, the rich arsenal that exists today, which we could only dream of in the 22nd year, and actually also without inflated expectations, there is still a lot of work, there is a constant missile threat, missile carriers, they are at sea, although in novorossiysk, a lot of work, but let's go god, there will be taus and everything else, and then we will meet in gurzf, i agree and want to join you too. oh, serhiy, i invite you, i even know approximately where, there is such a beautiful embankment over there, and the view is beautiful there, friends, just be careful, because we already had people who wanted to drink coffee on the embankment, we

still have to be more careful, statements, we are not talking about that now, yes , sergey, listen to what i wanted to ask, novotaura, of course, it is not some kind of wonder, a weapon, yes, nothing is a wonder weapon in reality, and such hopes, they are such.. . a bit childish, but here already in principle f-16, multi-purpose aircraft, which are not supposed to change the course of the war, but at least, well, this week there was a meeting of the president, there was a bet dedicated to . uh, exactly, the f-16, their future use, the term of delivery there and the conditions of their

service there, and i would like to hear from mr. serhiy what, in fact, how the situation changes along the front line, and maybe behind it , looks like in reality , due to the fact that, in fact, president zelensky said again. said that russia will not have air supremacy after, even local, after we get these f-16s and our our, our pilots return, yes, but at the same time i read such information that russia has at its disposal 100 e, well, there are planes, fighters, there are attack planes, etc., well , small ones, i do not mean transport ones, there are even more of them. together with them, but, that is, we are not supplied with so much, even if all, everything that is promised, will come and on time and will be the service is good, there won’t be as much

as in the russians, since, in what way do you think , sergey, we will dominate the air and squeeze the russians out of it, well , first of all, we will relieve the tension, i am sure of this, again , no rushing forward, everything must be and happen on the field. the actual battle and then we will see the results , the russian aviation will be pushed back, indeed there are a lot of them, that is why the air force is doing a huge job, they are destroyed practically every day, if we take the average of russian planes, and they are quite modern, quite powerful, yes, they have a lot of them, and even 7-10 destroyed planes there, unfortunately, do not fundamentally affect the situation with russian planes, but on the other hand, we are talking about the line of combat, we are talking about the fact that those cabs that are used, actually, it's, well , two more trump cards actually in russia, of course, it 's aviation, and it's cannon fodder, there's a

lot of it, it's what russia is using, and thus pushing us out of our certain territories, that we forced somewhere, as in the example of avdiivka , to move to some other positions and they have tactical advances in other directions, unfortunately, including. again, this is carelessness, this is a war here, the situation is dynamic, it is changing, actually, including literally these minutes. so, pushing back enemy aviation, we reduce the pressure, precisely with aviation weapons, precisely with those kabs that... simply wipe out everything that is on the ground, hit our positions, and accordingly, these are our losses, both in technology and the most important thing is people, and when there will be such parity, even if we come close to it, it will also be the strikes of our aviation on to the front edge of the enemy, i hope , it will also be strikes a little deeper, to the rear, let's say, base points, today it is happening, but this is not enough, and

actually air... our pilots have proven it since the 22nd here, in particular in the south, which can destroy enemy pilots and enemy equipment in the sky even with those old soviet planes, i hope it will be like that this time, it will still be easier, in any case , the direction is absolutely correct and we need to move a little , we need more, we need it in a timely manner, this is the most important thing, so that the situation with artillery shells does not repeat itself, that the promises are empty. in fact, today we have , respectively, an artillery famine in one direction or another, this is really a problem, it is good that the generals took up the matter, i am primarily talking about the general, who still fulfills his duties, in particular, the president of the czech republic, peter pavel, found a solution very quickly, or it matured in him, let's say, canada, as far as is known, will also give money, finance, and we will have more shells, at least now, colleagues

calculated which... i also trust, as experts, including that this amount will be enough for us there today, well, approximately 150, 160 days to defend ourselves, we are not talking about offensives now, these are about inflated expectations, no it must be said that tomorrow we will receive these shells and will be near moscow, unfortunately this will not happen, but actually there is a different situation, when there are a lot of military facilities on the territory of the russian federation, you can hit them, i am in general a strict supporter of they have to be beaten, i actually think, like you, and there is an enemy, even yend stoltenberg, and the secretary general of nato, says that if ukraine receives the 16th, then actually working on the territory of the russian federation is absolutely, as they say, legal for our country, absolutely true, and i am actually saying this, so you see, we with the secretary general of nato, as you and i move our thoughts, at least in joint such movements, in a joint forvater, yes, mr.

serhiy, i still cannot help but ask, actually, such dubious information has appeared that the ukrainian military is already refuting, well at least they say that they do not observe any superactivity there, so-called transnistria, and this february 28, when it is supposedly possible, they should have applied to the russian federation about joining it there . you, a person who knows well our ukrainian, odesa region, in particular, yes? well, that is, you and i have talked about this many times, what is this throw in for, because it is actually also about the proximity to our black sea in general, about the situation in the northwestern part of the black sea , about odesa, about our ukrainian south, why with there is such information in your opinion and as far as possible, well, in my opinion, it is enough logically, surprisingly and quite simply to explain it, these are informational. thrown

in to raise the degree of information again , because as far as the battlefield is concerned, we see that the degree has already been raised to the maximum, by the way, i will now mention a certain dima medvedev, no matter how we treat him , we we understand very well that his mouth is voicing, including putin's thoughts and dreams, odessa was mentioned again, and again this topic of odessa, transnistria again, not... recognized as the occupied territory of the republic of moldova, actually this informational the degree is rising, i can even allow it, although we do not have such confirmations either, and the main intelligence agency said about this that there will be a meeting of these deputies, it is unclear who they are there, thieves in law or who they are, that they will make decisions there , well, they will make decisions, they will shout putin from the army there, there is...