appeal in the ssr everything is destroyed, everything is in shambles , but i would like to say something else, i would like to say that we live, here i am now in the center of the city of drushkivka, 10 km in one direction to kostyantynivka, in the other direction 10 km to kramatorsk and if to the south 15 km to chasovyaro, i would like to know what awaits us, where is the fortification, where are the protective reddits that can protect and hold us here, because what we see does not inspire hope for future. mykola, thank you for those accents, actually on what you emphasized, and whether does the city feel, or does druzhkivka and the surrounding areas in general feel, that the front is now becoming very, very restless again, because we see activation not only in avdiivka, but also in the bakhmutsky direction, and we understand that during the winter, too, they are constantly mulling. the eyes of the russians,

are you feeling this tension, this strengthening at the front now in your city? taxana, it is not just felt, but the artillery shelling, which has been going on around the clock for the last three or four days, they are felt no longer as hearing, we feel the vibrations of the air, they have become much louder, much more powerful, and we feel its approach, this is actually quite a scary story when you... approaching konstantinka, where the front line remains very close, you feel how the air moves from the explosions, so to say that we feel, how we feel, how we feel, how we go to bed, not knowing what will happen in the morning, it is difficult to describe, because the constant such a depressed, nervous state, it has an extremely strong effect on... and only that, that there are a lot of

military personnel, only what is necessary for them, for them our support is extremely necessary, it keeps us going, and well, in principle, the situation is quite nervous and depressing, well, of course, the morning and the evening are under fire from the front, and we wanted to ask you about the evacuation, whether it has intensified now, and here we are. recently, oksana and i saw statistics that, for example, in the turkish community, and they are even closer to the front line, there are still, for example, 16 children. mr. roman, the evacuation is a very painful topic, because i repeat that people returned in the 23rd year for the advertised counteroffensive, people found jobs, people returned to their home, restored it and began to live, i call on those in power, those who speak on television to tell only

the truth, because in the 22nd year we had constant calls for evacuation, a constant organization, do you remember the tragedy on the kramatorsk railway station, when people were leaving en masse, then everything somehow came to nothing and people returned, now i don't hear calls for evacuation, that is, the state must say absolutely clearly, this is just a crazy mad danger, you have to... get out, you have to provide for people housing, existence, it is necessary with some money, and it must be said whether we will keep the cities or not, because look carefully at what we had for two years, azovstal, then the avdiiv coke plant, these are our fordposts, that is, what is a fordpost, the factories that were built in the ussr, which were built in preparation for the war, which plant will be the next outpost, why not the line... i

look, well, sometimes i travel around the country, i see that high-rise buildings are being built in dnipro, kyiv, frankivsk, if we are now in the third year we will not understand the war the destroyed railway station in kostyantynytsia, it belongs equally to kharkiv residents, vinnytsia residents, anyone, it is our property, we must understand this and must throw everything economic that... we have at our disposal, to save the boys , who in this frost, in the mud, in the dust, are sitting under fire in a clear field, it is good that two factories were found, which will be the next, nkmz, or the konstantinov factory named after frunza, which, it is true, was dusted, but the communications remained underground, one has to think first of all , about fortification, about protection, everything must be in country to throw there, not what is being done in kramatorsk, which... mr. mykola, i wanted

to ask you, because you mentioned the construction in kyiv, in the west of the country, but is there construction, we understand that it is not actually about residential construction, .. for you, are we talking about the construction of fortifications, some kind of fortifications, or are more specialists appearing, more of those who actually know how to make this line of defense stronger? oksana, i have already said more than once, if you look at the map of our region, and remember that you today they were talking, for example, about toretsk, you see, toretsk is near horli. it is 5 km close to horlivka and the enemy has been unable to do anything since the 22nd year, in fact since the 14th year, enter even a kilometer in the turetska area, why? i often visited turkey for work, there are such hills,

there are hills, there are rocks, cliffs, and everything was dug up there, it was in the 17th, 18th year, it was dug up by our trenches, pillboxes, pillboxes, fortifications, such mines... constantly, it is already almost half a city away, but the enemy does not move, because running into a frontal attack it is impossible to prepare our fortifications, it must do, it must be done around, whether it is done or not, we have no opportunity to be present where it is. but i don't see engineering equipment actively going there. mr. mykola, but actually yesterday, to journalists' questions, zelenskyy answered that right next to you, and we are even looking at the map now, a defense line is being built in the kramatorsk region, the president said, and it

is being built so correctly that it will be taken as an example for to strengthen the second line of defense, it’s nearby, maybe you saw it at least out of the corner of your eye, because it’s... an example was given, mr. roman, in kramatorsk , the largest fortification of the line of defense is the river siverskyi donets, which in the 22nd year stopped the enemy, which they so they couldn't force it, i know for sure whether it is being built, well, if the president says it, then you can't help but believe it, i didn't see it with my own eyes, and well, god forbid that it be built, only it must be built before the watchmaker and for... in the verb, not in kramatorsk, there is still before kramatorsk kostyantynivka, druzhkivka, if we surrender these cities, then kramatorsk will not hold back either, we will turn it into mariupol , we will destroy it, well, whatever the region wants, and as for the people, you know, the people are divided

and there is doom and hopelessness, others go, help the military, i want to say about my friend maksym girmash, who... went to siversk once a week with volunteer work, on saturday, when there was shelling of konstantiniki, he came under fire in siversk, under a drone , his car was destroyed, i to what, to what those who stayed here, they work for defense, they work for us to live , they work to provide for those people who remained, and i would like the weariness that is constantly heard, from the west, the center of ukraine, it, well , people who are tired , who can no longer hear about the war, so that they understand that if they wash us from here, then kyiv, chernivtsi, frankivsk will be next, and

every building is our building, ukrainian, and we must defend it in any city, including economically. mr. mykola, just one more word, you they remembered that many people returned, found work, and began to actually continue, to restore their lives in kramatorsk, druzhkivka, and the surrounding areas. is there now a tendency to leave, to evacuate cities along the lines of sloviansk, kramatorsk, and kostiantynivka? oksana, it's a strange situation, you know, kramatorsk was shelled very hard, for 5 days. that is why kostyantynka was shelled the day before yesterday, they incite such nervousness as i said, and people are going to leave in the evening, in the morning they wake up, clean the glass, the trash is destroyed and remains alive, i don't

see mass departures, no, people believe, believe to the last, it's some strange transformed psyche, when we go to bed, knowing that... tonight may fly right into yours, in your yard or in your high-rise building, you lie down and hope for the best, it's for psychologists to study, what in general. how a person's psychotype changes during war. mr. mykola, thank you for the conversation, thank you for being with us, hang in there, mykola dovnia, a member of the druzhkiv city council was with us on communication, we're going to take a short break now, and while the break lasts, you'll have a moment to, without leaving espresso, donate to our defenders, now for the 141st brigade, we're collecting, it's infantry , it's air reconnaissance, and they a lot is needed. various larger and smaller things, larger and smaller equipment for the performance of their combat tasks, we want

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but mariupol was the hottest spot, our friend's guest just mentioned that. azaostal city was regularly shelled by the russians troops, in particular residential quarters, those who got out of mariupol, say that its residents, well, found themselves in a situation of humanitarian disaster, the city then had no electricity, no communication, not enough food and medicine, and the bodies of the dead were lying on the streets, in mass graves appeared in the courtyards of houses, so in those cemeteries, on bonfires, such horrors actually happened, and families experienced the same horrors. makuhiv, we will tell you about it now, how they got out of the city, how they started life in another country from scratch, when i start to remember, well, it’s more like this feeling

anger and... pavlo painfully remembers the terrible russian invasion of his native city. before the start of the great war, pavlo and his wife svitlana had a happy life. he taught physical education at school and was a martial arts coach. the wife had her own business. on february 24, 2022, a new life countdown began. paul says: those whom he considered his own.

and then they already pulled up the regular troops, they already pulled up the equipment, they pulled up not just modern equipment, they started mockingly, they will get there like this, they will get there from the hut says, they will get there, whatever it was necessity, god knows, the city was constantly bombarded with shells, russians dropped bombs from airplanes, cannons and howitzers did not shut up. pavlo remembers the day when he and his wife miraculously survived, and a pillar fell on my house. and broke the roof, all the windows were blown away, the doors inside were blown away, so that i was wearing a sports cap, i was on the street at that time, well , i didn't see it, i looked at what my hat was doing on the tree, then i started to analyze it, this my hat is enough, it is sieved, how did i

stay alive, it was a millimeter, 2 mm, a woman in this she was at home for a while... so the makukh family lived in the besieged mariupol for 3 months, because they could not leave svetlana's bedridden old mother. all those who remained in the city had to pass a mandatory check, the so-called filtering. the couple helped the local and ukrainian military. pavlo was also on duty at his school. one day , svetlana, together with other people, hid in a drama theater, which was soon destroyed by the russians. and the children already thought that she stayed there to suffer, and the woman came to the theater, thought she thought, she says, i will remain alone with my mother-in-law , it is hard for me there, she is leaving this drama theater, i am walking 13-15 kilometers under bombardment, she is returning home, at the end

of may, the streets were already full of corpses, pavlo and his wife were afraid that the city would ... are covered due to the risk of cholera spreading. the couple managed to leave mariupol on may 31 , 2022. two days before leaving , svitlana's old mother died, and pavlo decided to bury her in his yard. i dug it myself not very deep, i dug it in the hope that in september, something like this would happen to me information that we will release in mariupol in september. well, that year, then my mother-in-law and i buried it in our house, when we were already leaving , says the saint. well, now at least there will be someone to look after the house, we arrived at the customs office, well, men, there were several buses there, they took us to a room, we were all separated into underwear.

svitlana and pavla's son and grandson left mariupol in march. 12-year-old maksym lives with his mother in drohobych, lviv region, his father went to serve in the army. the guy remembers those humiliations and a long way to the territory controlled by ukraine. there was a large convoy, all the seats were occupied, we drove standing all night, and then, well, at night we arrived at the russian checkpoint. there was a gas station there, and at that time we were told that we would not go any further, and we stood there in the spit for two days, the next morning they brought us water from

the sewers, which was not, well, impossible to drink, then we, well, for the whole bus, they threw a loaf of bread so that we could just eat, on the day when they brought us that water, there was just a military vehicle driving in front of us russian, we saw it and were not allowed to pass. because of this, they just distilled the technique. difficult circumstances and the war separated the makukh family. each of them dreams of one thing. when they reunite and return to their native, ukrainian mariupol. i dream of restoring my home. this is my dream. and i perfectly understand that they will return there, it will be replaced, the border is 40 km from russia. for a while, we will not destroy this rashka. we already have a team of officials from mariupol, who enter immediately, only buy in, enter and everyone does their own business, doctors,

education, housing and communal services, well, what is needed for the life of a full-fledged city. oh, beautiful, well done! together with us , petro andryushchenko, the adviser to the mayor of mariupol, watched this story. mr. peter, congratulations, thank you for being with us so early. tell me, please, do the people of mariupol still care about the question of how the healthy city ended up surrounded in a few days after the russian invasion? is this a question for historians? you know, it seems to me that this is not a question for historians, it is a question of yesterday. watched the president's press conference, as he says that two years have passed, it is time to tell the truth, it is time to say what is already timely, this question, it, it is always

timely, that is, we still cannot understand how it happened that the russians marshal marched to cities in three days, this is the only part from the crimea to mariupol, they are almost there more than 450 km in 3 days, and if we take other fronts, other directions, where... our armed forces stood, from the north there are the villages of sartana and morpihi, where stood those who went to the combine and licha, for example, on the side of novoazovsk, what happened, and azov mostly stood there, there they traveled much more distances of 5, 10 km, how did it happen, and well, this is a question, this is a question of justice, you know, and without this question, well, i think we will not be able to move on, because we are all in such a... very difficult point today, i mean the people of mariupol in the first place, and in principle all internally displaced persons, this applies to all those who are newly occupied territories, because this march from crimea, he

influenced, well, let's see, it's militopol, it's tokmak, it's pology, it's berdyansk, mariupol, volnovakha, well, that is, all the newly occupied large cities, they all suffered precisely because of this march, if it had not taken place, well, who knows how it would have turned out. what would be the fate of mariupol, for example, because mariupol really took all this upon itself, and these three decisive days, while the whole country was fighting, and well, we had consequences, if our city was preparing and all the assets were preparing and reserves, i remember , as we did and helped and found, to do it correctly , molotov cocktails were made in our country, and they at that time were already unnecessary, then the russians changed their tactics, they no longer broke into the cities and they ... tested the tactics in mariupol and now we see them in bakhmut, in avdiivka, in marinka, well, everywhere, everywhere they do the same thing, so well the question, how come in three days, well

, believe me, it will never happen. a question for historians, it will always be a question of justice, because the mobilization continues, yes, but how do we convince the people that they should go to defend the country, and when they say who are these traitors, we will go, there are no questions, who are those people , who they allowed such a march in three days, well, this is a painful, very painful question, if someone thinks that someone has forgotten about him, no, this is a question for the people of mariupol, but in all private conversations, believe me, this is the number one question, how did this happen , mr. peter, despite the fact that mariupol has experienced terrible, perhaps one of the greatest horrors of this war, in the city, as we can see, there are still many people who are ready to fight on, i am talking about the resistance forces, i am talking about the ukrainian partisans, and actually , we owe it to them, in particular, that here is another a50

and a50u, landed and it seems that it will never fly again, so there is information that they published a photo of this plane that took off, that was returning, that is, they helped the ukrainian special services to destroy it, in fact , there are many such brave people who continue to fight and help, find ways to work for ukraine in the occupation? many, quite a lot, this is the vast majority, i will not say that all are actively involved in the process against. mariupli with you, who is in the city, but in one way or another is absolute the majority of the population of mariupol, the ukrainian population and what is left, it joins and tries to help, that is , everything is organized differently, in different ways, and data collection continues, and some active actions continue differently, but the city is struggling, you know, we have been under deep occupation for more than two years, well, two years in fact, and in such a situation, people stay in the city, i will say, there are

people who... deliberately stay in the city now, they can leave there, but they stay for that , to fight, and this is not only about the occupied mariupol, that's how the issue with this plane, this is the issue with these photos, this airfield is not in mariupol, yes, we all understand that it is on the territory of the russian federation, what happened, over 70 thousand mariupol residents were deported to the territory of the russian federation, well, people remain there, where they stay and they work to win in those cities where they are. ugh, mr. peter, i’ll think about it, you answered the question about these marches in three days , mariupol was surrounded, and that’s all, i remember that yesterday for the first time there was information that plans for a counteroffensive were on the table in the kremlin even before how the counteroffensive began, and somehow it all fits into this same picture, and when wachner's group was supposed to be taken, for some reason

, information was also on putin's table. about this special operation wagner gate, mariupol, this , this is also the same story, maybe, who knows , maybe, well, in any case, it is the same story, yes, well, yes, come on, we know the crimean isthmus, i think everyone who passed through it knew that it was weak, and there was always a weak point for a russian attack, because it is a narrow area, it is very easy to take fire control, a lot bridges a bunch of bridges on the way to mariupol, by the way, yes, of which only one in the territory of the current occupied times of the mango district was blown up, well , of course, it didn't happen just like that, someone, well, someone betrayed, and that's why we need to know who would very much like to see responsibility, you know, not even to name, but to see responsibility, because it seems to me that we have enough power, means and desire and anger to take revenge on the person who

did this. i am sure that these people are not on the territory of russia federation, which means that they are either on the territory of our partner countries, or maybe still on the territory of ukraine, who knows how it is where, yes, but we should know, but it was strange yesterday, i completely agree with you, that is when i hear from the words of the president that the counteroffensive plans were on the table of moscow last year, and we do not hear the name of the person who put them there, well, somehow it seems to me... it seems a little wrong, let's say this, with you, mr. peter, completely , petro andryushchenko was with us, a warrior of the mayor of mariupol, a it's news time and khrystyna parobiy is ready to talk about the most important thing at the moment. congratulations, colleagues, thank you, the draft law on mobilization will be changed, i will tell more about it in the issue, as well as about the situation at the front, don't miss it in a moment.