the victory of ukraine, crimean tatars and the peninsula. well, in your question, i crossed out two very important theses. the first thesis is that it is necessary to do something about the fact that it is not necessary to just talk about the liberation of crimea. and just since 2013, we have been constantly demonstrating and talking, and initiating what needs to be done in order to... so that, well, that there would be some kind of result. the second thesis, well, in my opinion , which of your question, just how how, which cannot be in ukrainian society at all, that is, there, well, there is a contract for 150 years there, or let there be crimea for the time being there in lease, or in some other way and other things, because these are precisely the narratives that

, unfortunately, by 2019, in... - it's, well, what's wrong, what's crimea there - it's only there for rest and the sea, and what 's wrong with the fact that crimea isn't in ukraine yet, but that's just such a thesis, it's very, very bad, i i would say yes. because here, just like that, a lot of victory depends primarily on the society itself, its motivation, its consolidation, and when the society is consolidated, it will be able to do everything and influence what will be the state policy on this issue, what will be the economy in order to support our, well, for example, in this case, the armed forces of ukraine. for the liberation

of crimea, and thirdly, how will we influence the external world in order to provide us with all these means and means to carry out the post-occupation, yes, indeed, for all these years, well, if we analyze, returning to the first thesis, within the framework of the first thesis i would say that... on began, began to happen in 2020-2021, alas, these are what we talked about in 2014 in relation to crimea, that is, finally in 2021 there appeared a strategy of de-occupation , integration of the autonomous republic of crimea and the city of sevastopol, with " the law on the indigenous peoples of ukraine finally appeared, the amendment was canceled. the law on the free economic zone

of crimea and the like, that is, but, but, unfortunately, there are still many normative legal acts that need to be adopted, a lot of work still needs to be done to ensure that, really, when crimea de-occupied, the next very, well , important and difficult, important and difficult stage will begin, which is reintegration. and that is why it is already necessary to prepare ukrainian legislation so that it could be used as a toolkit. as for what is happening in crimea now, we need to understand that for all these years, and we have done everything and are doing everything, so that as many pro-ukrainian citizens as possible remain in crimea, so that the disloyal part of the population in... for

of the russian occupying russian authorities remained in crimea, unfortunately, unfortunately, we, many people from crimea were forced to leave even before 2022, because they opened criminal cases, they pressured, they conducted searches and other things, including after the first full-scale aggression and how they started to carry out partial mobilization, many of our compatriots began to leave for third countries, and this is connected with the fact that they do not end up in the ranks of the armed forces of the russian federation and do not fight against their own fellow citizens, that is why it is a tragedy, it is also a big problem, because really, if we are talking about the root the crimean tatar people, then they are scattered all over the world, this is a very big problem.

on the other hand, when we talk about our compatriots, it is very important for us that when in the period after deoccupation and at the beginning of reintegration, we need that... there were more of our compatriots who could help us reintegrate crimea, in addition, i i want to say frankly that many people are starting to talk about what, they are making such populist statements, but let's be honest, after the deoccupation of crimea, the majority of the population in crimea will be, say psychologists, social social psychology. a larger, larger part of the population will be sick, sick from russian propaganda, because in these 10 years it can be said that a generation has already changed, that is, these children who were born in ukraine, and when they were

, for example, 10 years old, when the occupation of crimea began, they are now 20 years old, and which of them is now in the ranks of the armed forces of the russian federation... and which of them is now, including on the territory of ukraine , fighting against ukraine? and this is a great tragedy, a tragedy for us all. that's why here we also need to understand all this, and when right now i hear, here someone starts to declare that the crimean region is the only one there, and we will solve the whole issue there? no, no, because donbas, if we take the luhansk and donetsk regions, there were regions there and... the occupation really started there, and when we talk about crimea and where someone says, well, there will be a military civil administration, yes, well it will be for how many 5 years, 10 years, then our partners will say, where is your democracy, and

just in order to ensure, let's say control over the territory, and for it to be a democracy, here it is important to think about the fact that the democratic influence on the preservation of the constitutional constitutional integrity and sovereignty of ukraine will have a big role to play in the national and territorial autonomy, that's about it now we have to talk, well, i 'm in the same place with us, now they are working on gathering people who will go to work in the de-occupied crimea, well, at least there was such a story, maybe now they have suspended this process for the time being. it is understood that now it is worth it first to de-occupy, in general, or to create the prerequisites for de-occupation, i would like to see how well, again , someone's secrets will be revealed there, how effectively the partisans are working, because we see that they are dropping videos of deployments there, at the deployment of enemy equipment and the place of storage of this equipment , other things, and secondly, in your

opinion, why would putin have crimea, if, say, the kerch bridge will be destroyed, well , now they are solving the issue with taurus there, there is a certain strategy in... how many strikes, by what means they must be inflicted to the kerch bridge was out of order for a long time, a very, very long time. in principle, it is realistic. now they are building a new railway from the crimea through mariupol to their own rastovna dana, in my opinion, if i am not mistaken, that is, but if without the black sea fleet, which is afraid to get out of its puddle there from that donuzlav lake, if without the kerch bridge there are no special there are such resources, then why does putin need crimea? to hold on to him, yes, first of all we need to understand that for putin, for now he is the president of the russian federation, and he really influences, and maybe he will remain the president, although he will not be recognized by the whole world and it is necessary to work on this so that the world does not recognize him, but just

like that, crimea for him is not just, let's say, a political project, not just logistics for and a base for... weapons for the continuation of the war against ukraine, but for him it is some kind of sacred place, which he will hold on to for a very long time, and the bridge is a means, that is, means by which he tries to control crimea, and including in 2022 they talk about it talked and we talked about that they will still try to capture the dry corridor. to crimea , that's why they are doing all this, that's why when crimea is really already destroyed and the crimean bridge will be destroyed, then crimea will already be a trap, a trap with which all the real techs will sew, not as they stated that the russians are packing their bags there ,

are leaving and so on, no, the russians are really those who came to crimea illegally, they are starting in a different way... then we will really see how they will actively start leaving crimea, and i will tell you that historically, that's how military situations are were in crimea, indeed crimea, if you block all logistical means for securing crimea, it is very easy to take crimea under control, in our case we say to liberate crimea, and in this way it is very important for us, and that is why the crimean bridge. now it is the main artery with the help of which they

control crimea. thank you very much, i believe that after all it is the least blood, although of course now, i would like at least crimea to be returned, first of all to the crimean tatars under control, and therefore it will be in the composition of ukraine, in which status we will see, but in any case for sure. there will be no leg of the occupier. skander beriev, head of the crimean tatar resource center, was with us. a complicated story indeed. crimea, i have relatives there and yes, you are watching, it is clear that russia took crimea more than once, and then it lost it. the question was how long it took, and then she gave it herself. crimea was handed over to ukraine by the decision, by the way, not by nikita serhiyevich khrushchev, but by the decision of the verkhovna rada of the rsfsr. when, by the way, are they now. that this is khrushchev, for some reason he is ukrainian for them, although he was born in kurshchyna, well, but they say that khrushchev is a russian surname, he was simply

at one time the chairman of the central committee of the communist party of ukraine, there is a little bit, but this does not mean that khrushchev is ukrainian, khrushchev is russian, but that khrushchev gave crimea to ukraine, no way, crimea in ukraine was given by the verkhovna rada of the rsfsr, yes, to the russian federation, the soviet russian federation, the question is that when khrushchev came to crimea, people were already resettled there, when the crimean tatars were resettled from crimea, they were resettled there russians from pavol. there is, and khrushchev came to them, and they cried that they could not live there, because they had to work there, otherwise the crimean tatars could work in those conditions, there were ukrainians, well, in the north of crimea, that is to say, no, not in they couldn't get their asses wet, but they couldn't work because there was no water, they started digging for water, they couldn't dig water, and in the end they decided that let ukraine, and when crimea was given to ukraine, then the whole program was like this, until now, i used to find these articles in newspapers in libraries: ukraine of crimea, of all collective farms across ukraine. tractors , machines, planters, fans, construction equipment , went to build crimea, ukrainians went and all that

, the longest trolleybus line in the world simferopol-sevastopol was built by ukrainians, there are ukrainian stars, all these sanatoriums, mishors, it was all built by ukrainians , that's why crimea, well , ukrainians, crimean tatars, when they didn't return there in the 90s, that's why everything will be ukraine, and now i invite you to talk, and by the way, we're waiting for the speech of president volodymyr zelenskyi. online performance in at the elysée palace in paris, where emmanuel macron, the president of france, gathered world leaders who support ukraine for a summit to talk, i think there will be not just a conversation, there will be some substantive conversation, and now i will invite serhiy zgurets, the director of the agency, to a substantive conversation defenseexpress , host of the daily military summaries column, serhiy, congratulations, please welcome vasyl, i congratulate our viewers, indeed we will talk about specific things, first of all, about the situation on the front line, about the audit of the ministry of defense and the armed forces and about mobilization in a conversation with... our military against the background of the echo of volodymyr zelenskyi's press conference that took place yesterday, and about what was used to shoot down

the russian k-50-u plane over the krasnodar territory, if there is time for that . so, more on that in a moment. it starts with the situation on the front line. our armed forces, defense forces, are on the defensive, really the enemy. pressing and now conducting offensive actions on several fronts, it seeks, while there is such a window of opportunity, to take advantage of its superiority in manpower, munitions, and aviation, which now actively uses cabs in all areas of the front. over the past day, 95 combat clashes took place, this is actually a lot, and it is worse now in the maryansk direction, where there were 40 enemy attacks that were repelled. and there, despite all this heat, there are no changes on the map , but regarding changes, of course, here we have to take

into account the combat operations near avdiivka, just along this border of the steppe, orlivka ivanivske, northern pervomaiske, to which our brigades, which before that were holding the defense, retreated avdiyivka, they held on bravely. today the spokesman of osukhortytsia, dmytro lykhoviy, officially said that the armed forces had withdrawn from the village. lastochkina, which is located 6 km from avdiyivka, and according to him, such a maneuver was necessary to organize defense along the line of byrd settlements. or orlivka thin and prevent the further advance of the enemy further to the west, but in fact this withdrawal of our troops took place about a day earlier, by the way, there is a video of how our units are withdrawing from ivanovsky in an organized manner, and we understand that this is a completely justified step in those conditions,

which took place on the front line, because now , despite the assessment of the superiority in manpower, the enemy also continues... attacking actions in other directions in this area, there are continuing attacks in the direction of orlovka, northern, steppe, combat operations are taking place right next to these forces , and in particular, here we recently saw the first video of how an abrams tank works, it is precisely an abrams tank from the 47th separate mechanized brigade, and in fact it is the first there from... to this tank and we understand that how actively it is used on in this area where the enemy is itself is trying to press in the steppe zone, and we understand that the potential of our 47th brigade is extremely high, given the experience of fighting in the south, and now also in holding positions near the steppe, but

here the enemy is still advancing in some areas, east of orlivka, it's at... a point near the swallow-hole enemy advanced somewhere to a depth of about 400 m. there are also ongoing hostilities near the village of tonenko, and it can be assumed that after a certain time our defense line may move a little to the west. there are different estimates of exactly where the enemy pressure will be stopped, because there are different lines of defense, including one of the most distant ones. the line just passes along the line of heights and water obstacles of the throne a little to the west, it was built there back in the 15th year, but the departure to it is still too early to talk about it, but the question is that here are our military, who are now receiving this line of current positions, they say that there are many complaints about

those fortifications that were built along the lines of those villages where our defenders, as for other directions, the enemy is trying to press, in particular, it is quite active now in the direction of the yar times, here the enemy is carrying out attacks from several vectors, here it is bohdanivka and ivanivske, there near bohdanivka, there fighting continues near the valyanivka railway station , the railroad passes there close to bohdanivka, and from the north and from... the east the enemy is trying to push through to ivanovsky, and here around ivanovsky fighting continued almost all day , in particular there from the north and from the east, there there is sadova street, the enemy is actually trying to gain a foothold on the eastern sadova street, and when they talk about the features

of the enemy's combat operations at the current stage, it actually somewhat resembles the tactics of, relatively speaking , maddened infantry, when bmp... at high speed trying to break through there through the shifting fields and mines of our artillery and mortars there, it bursts into the settlement, then from this bmp pours out like a roar russian infantrymen, who are trying to gain a foothold and the second wave is approaching even faster than us, we manage to destroy this the first wave of attacking infantry, at the same time... here the enemy also uses chemical munitions, by the way, in such cases there were situations when we are talking about ivanovskii, when the russian drg in ukrainian uniform entered, they were destroyed, there according to certain signs it was calculated, that these are actually the russian military, and in fact two

of our brigades are working quite actively there now in podivanivsk, and this main route, which goes from bakhmut to ivanivsk, is actually distributed there. the area of ​​responsibility of the two brigades, on one side there is the fifth assault brigade brigade, there and to the left there is the 17th tank brigade, that is, in fact, it is precisely the interaction of these two brigades that significantly affects the effectiveness of the enemy's deterrence. by the way, our military has ammunition in this area, although foreign commentators say that there is a lack of ammunition in this area, and i hope that the enemy will not be destroyed, so to speak, and... he will not advance to ivanovsk itself, to which he very much aspires. and this tactic of rabid infantry, by the way, is visible in other areas as well front, in particular, when we think about robots, there we... remember that we have a wedge in the enemy's defenses, such a pocket there measuring 10 by 10 km, and now the enemy is gathering forces there again to try to

push out our military from this area, and this is rather the same political task, as was the situation with the capture of avdiyivka, when the price for the enemy does not matter, and he tries to push through our defenses at any cost, as well as the bmp of the raid for... they did not go into the works and there were already destroyed, because this was actually the end point of this russian attacking route, so we understand that the situation in all areas of the f-front is difficult and we hope that, after all , foreign aid and ammunition, well, after all , the largest, will be found in larger quantities in the near future in order for it to contribute to our defense, and by the way, the president of ukraine spoke yesterday about the fact that the next ... months will be quite difficult for us, and volodymyr zelenskyi also spoke at his press conference about such things as mobilization, yes a little superficial, and more

spoke about the audit of the armed forces, about the audit of the ministry of defense, and now we are joined by pavlo kishkar, major of the armed forces, chief of staff, deputy commander of the armed forces battalion, people's deputy of the eighth convocation, mr. pavle, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. good evening, mr. serhiy, good evening ukraine. i hope you probably had the opportunity to listen to at least a fragmentary press conference of volodymyr zelenskyi, maybe you heard the speeches of the minister of defense, the minister of strategic industries, and i just for myself i will note one small thing, that is, the actual event was called ukraine year 24 20-24, but when there were presentations by the minister of defense, the minister. the strategic branch of industry had such a slogan, which read: war, weapons, munitions, that is, it was about weapons, but i was a little worried, because in this chain

of war, weapons, munitions, one element is missing: a person or a warrior, that is, war, warrior, weapons and military equipment, so to speak, the impression is that we sometimes forget about the main component of our defense system, about about the warrior himself and the fighter himself. for which weapons are created and for which it is necessary to ensure the effective conduct of hostilities, but what did you single out for yourself in the press conference of volodymyr zelenskyi or in the speeches of officials when they talked about the achieved results and plans for the near future. mr. serhiy, accents in any sphere of ukrainian life will now begin with the word war. and the economic life of ukraine, and the life of a soldier, and the life of the military-industrial complex and the life of ministers and the life of the president will be on

100% are related to war, so war is cynically a chance for the development of the military-industrial complex, and in the context of mobilization we often repeat that technical mobilization is needed. the mobilization of the ukrainian military-industrial complex, which would allow us to effectively carry out on the battlefield those tasks that stand for the protection and territorial integrity of ukraine, so these interrelated things will be determined by our nearest, well, a year or two to be exact, and after the war, economically and with the development of the military-industrial complex, we can use this economic advantage and technological advantage in the sale of the achievements of the military-industrial complex,

the sale for export of its military and dual-purpose goods, therefore , such a technological advantage should be ensured by the ukrainian military-industrial complex, and this is exactly what fodorov and kamyshyn said in their reports now, so that their words do not diverge from reality, because politicians often talk too much , unfortunately, nothing changes at the front, so we will expect both personnel decisions and technological solutions, and the most important thing is those solutions that have already been worked out, in particular in unmanned systems, whether ground or aviation, this is the scaling of production, which is critical today. the situation with reb and rer is of interest in the scaling of production, so that these are solutions not in a hos way, but

solutions. which would stand on the production lines, which would allow a wide range to be closed from russian drones, you are absolutely yes, you are absolutely the decision yes, that they will be implemented as a result of, including this conference, you are absolutely they correctly mentioned fedorov, fedorov, by the way, was the only one who said that the basis of our victory is a person and technology, others for some reason forgot about a person, but... yes, but at the press conference volodymyr zelenskyi, by the way, mentioned such a thing as an audit ministry of defense and audit of the armed forces. you have repeatedly said on our broadcasts that when it comes to mobilization, state structures, in particular the ministry of defense, should start with themselves. does this mean that you have been heard, and the carrying out of this audit of the armed forces will in fact be the first push for a review, relatively speaking, internal capabilities.

internal reserves of each structure, in order to really, well, respond to this call for mobilization, which is much broader than increasing, relatively speaking, attack aircraft for units. answering your question, that's what we heard, moreover, the idea that further requires not only an audit of the law enforcement agencies, but also an audit of the state system as a whole. management, liquidation of unnecessary things, reduction where we can reduce, but the most important thesis that there conditionally from march 1 we do not accept for the civil service of men who have not passed the front, men of conscription age 27-60, men who do not have appropriate reservations regarding mobilization, we simply do not

accept them. for public service or service for local self-government bodies, you can expand this list to state enterprises, it would be cool, pr and most importantly effective, because it would stimulate people to decide where they want to serve, although if you delve into mobilization process, we never told the ukrainian society that we we are building an army. according to other than soviet principles, unfortunately, this did not happen, we are again calling people to the soviet system, for example, i invited a person who had health restrictions to come for military service, but people who have no will not be responsible in battle for this person, deprived me of the opportunity to attract him to my unit, and this should not be the case, i am the commander of the unit,

i am responsible for people, not pra... tsk or the head of the training center, if this freedom , such a cossack, yes, freedom to form units would remain with unit commanders, i would, well, first of all, this is an element of freedom for which we are fighting, we, this is not the soviet principle of forming units, and in this way we would bring responsibility closer to the people, and people would happily go to those commanders whom they know, and for... now we call them into obscurity, into the scoop, and where nothing actually depends on a person, today he serves in one unit, tomorrow they are reassigned, or god forbid, something what happened to the commander, that's all, he is in a completely different unit, despite his desire, that is why the principles of the formation of the army itself should be voluntary, while we, unfortunately, did not hear it at the conference, while we are calling people to the soviet union, but...

a logical breakthrough was announced, the mobilization of civil servants, state institutions and soldiers who were not in combat units, this is the right step, and for that i am grateful to mr. danilov and mr. sirsky, that they listened to us and feel in this a certain reserve of opportunities for the development of the armed forces, but i want to clarify a small a detail, then in fact... the person you wanted to take into your unit, he would significantly increase the potential of your structure given his professional qualities, definitely, that's right, mr. serhiy, we called him for a technical position, where his limitations in terms of health, well , they did not affect efficiency, that is, his knowledge of engineering interested us more than his limitations there, that is, he would be engaged in engineering and applied work.