at the press conference itself, but if there is no continuation in two or three weeks, then it somehow looks, well, very strange, because after all, the circle of people who had a relationship with the development and before getting acquainted with this plan, after all it is quite limited, i want to believe it, and these plans were discussed in protected rooms, i think, i want to believe in protected premises, and when information from the president appears, i want it to be the pinnacle of some kind of investigation , as well as with conclusions, well at least with some, well, understanding that, from which side this leak came from, yes, if it is just a statement to show the population to answer why the counteroffensive failed, well, it seems to me that apart from the fear that we are not quite right there, let's say so , about the calculations regarding the counteroffensive itself, there will be

new fears from the population that everything is not clean in our country at the highest level regarding the preservation of state secrets and in general our salaries, the fact that this demotivates people, i have no doubt about that , therefore, to be honest, i do not understand the reason that forced zelensky to tell about this, about this, this story, in principle, everything else, well, it is absolutely expected, i am, of course, a political technologist, i hope... what will happen in order to somehow present a new approach to war, a new approach in general, maybe even a new appearance of a new zelenskyi, yes, well, some kind of transformation, because other challenges, well, this is according to him, so why did he change the stalwart, why at all, that is, what is it needed for, that is, i called it this concept that.. .offer the concept of a delayed

victory there, yes, but it was not voiced nothing, in principle, everything, everything that was before , everything remains, there is no plan b, we believe in victory, the west will help us, ah, well, what is there, well, all that we have been hearing for two years, therefore, i think that for the domestic audience there is nothing new, in principle, the president makes daily video addresses, for the western audience. well, what could they have heard new , well, no, well, what, well, the answer, yes, here is the specific answer, i already forgot the japanese journalist about the industrious, well, he said that it was his, it was his business, as he who appoints whom he fires, it's fine, fine, fine, that's what the president answered to a japanese journalist an hour and a half after the start of the press conference, but it looked a little strange, to be honest, as a journalist i was watching this press. conference, for me

it is strange, because this is the number one issue for ukrainian society, and it seemed that this press conference is a press conference in response to the questions of foreign journalists and to a foreign audience, because what i heard from zelenskyi, for example , about mobilization, it's to the parliament, about what the counteroffensive failed, there are some rats in the supreme commander-in-chief's pond, that is , i, like journalists, do not have a question, but in general, that is, he, he answered the question. to me, if i had any questions about the reasons for the dismissal of the servant, i no longer have them, everyone who understands at least a little, so to speak, in the byzantine politics of our country, understood everything perfectly, everything was perfectly understandable, i think, even explanations no need why he fired him, he answered himself, of course, if he wanted some lean, so to speak... in some other

direction, he would start talking about some changes, he answered as he did, by the way, he answered sincerely, and this, by the way, is the answer of a man, not a narcissist, i do not completely agree here, but a person who is confident in his mission, let's say yes, yes, and it became clear to me, i got this answer in general, strangely enough, on fox news, in an interview with him, he said that he ... will defeat anyone, and questions about zaluzhny and questions in general are all questions that concern him exclusively competencies, no one should worry in principle, in general, everything is clear, everything is clear, everything is clear. mr. viktor, you say that zelensky looked like a narcissist, and he looked like that during this press conference, mr. oleksiy says that this is...

this is the law, this is byzantineism, i would say so. this is the early kuchma, or kuchma just when he fired marchuk from the post of prime minister, and then they are somewhere on the sidelines. poured into the mirror of the week the information that he was fired for forming his own political image, for now there is no such thing, but i am waiting for it to appear somewhere in the telegram channel to someone that he was fired for forming a political image of himself, did zelenskyy look confident at yesterday's press conference, because mr. volodymyr mentioned the press conference, which was before the new year, and it seemed... that there the president was not quite ready for some questions, well, let's put it this way, there was a feeling that this press conference before the new year was rather impromptu, here all the questions were worked out more thoroughly and questions and answers. yes, zelenskyi

looked more confident, but it seems to us that this is only because, actually, in such cases, well, if we say... that zelenskyi is a narcissist, a narcissist is always in his mission, he is confident, yes, and why should we it seems that he looked better than last time because he didn't have to be rude, i want us all to understand that these were blanks, they are still quarterbacks, there is such a thing in kven, in kven, in general, one of the competitions, called improvisation, yes, and very often the teams exchange questions with each other to... roughly speaking, well, in kvenivska slang, the best improvisation is the one that is edited, directed, and there the trick has already been scrolled somewhere on er on some runs of the performance , yes, and that's why you also caught it very

cool, that there are blanks, yes, a blank there is like, well, what about mobilization, and he immediately prepares there, as it was said in the president’s office, transmits the progress of the parliament, well ... you understand, well, 3,000 corrections, and i would like the editors to learn to push their journalists, to ask not only the main question, but also a secondary question, yes, because if we are talking about all these edits , yes, then he can say that there , dear journalists, i am the supreme commander-in-chief, the supreme. and that's why i'm going now, i'll set up my faction, i'll drive a rusty arachamia whistle into the head, why? in order to say: here, here are the amendments, we vote, we knock these down, because i am supreme, i have to lead the war there, that's all, he is like turning the arrows on the parliament, and what is this? it is my

deep belief that everything that was, and why he confidently reacted here, that they just trained for a long time. these improvisations, they practiced for a long time, they knew that there would be some awkward questions, they waited for the japanese journalist to ask, just in case , they were sitting there with their own, which they would have asked if no one had asked a similar question, and uh, what they uh , and there it was okay, what uncomfortable questions, here are such and such, we react to such and such, if we do not have an answer, then we declare something left, yes, like this to the japanese, these are our internal questions. what did you do, or how did you get lost in the czech republic, and it's some technical problems there, what are you doing there stuck, and here i am, here we jump to other topics, like there is a prozaluzhny and right then and there we can skip that some kind of mole has appeared in us, but if at all something does not work,

then as it was on december 19 at the last press conference, just stupidly rude, rude, we take and rude and that's it, we didn't have to be rude here, everything went well, plus at the end... after the green whistle everyone applauds, well, where else have you seen a scoop to the soviet union, except here, for the press conference to end with deep, sustained applause, shuffling, i don't know, i don't know, it's on planes, except that those returning from resorts clap their hands, i can tell you where, where, if you want me to tell you where, where, i advise you to ask me. told last year the nato summit in vilnius, zelensky's speech, the only one who received nato applause from the participants of the summit was zelensky, at the nato-freedom summit, but they applauded ukraine for the president of ukraine, not

volodymyr zelenskyi, the president of ukraine, that's what's important, that's why and now, i think, the applause was also primarily from foreign journalists, it is a sign of respect, from foreign journalists, i think... it's normal, it 's ukraine's applause for the fact that it survived for two years, this is important, and maybe because zelenskyi said that he is creating such a platform on which the russian... dictator putin will be forced to admit his losing this war. let's listen to this fragment. we will offer a platform where he can accept that he lost this war, and that it was a mistake, a big mistake, which is small for him, it's a tragedy for us, and it's a tragedy for the whole democratic world , absolutely, and that's why. .. should be justice in this matter, if we are strong with one weapon or another, we will not

lose this war, we will win, because all putin's steps back, daily steps back will definitely have a great impact on his society, and then he will think already about internal security, that's all, but if you look at the messages that putin gives, today he operates with facts... with numbers and everything talks about the plans of the 30th year, here is the answer for you, what he is going to do, he sees himself until the 30th year, and we would like to finish it earlier, mr. oleksiy, and why the year 2030 is being discussed, it seems to me that putin wants to be at the head, presidential, president of russia, in the position of president, until the grave board. russia, well, it will be the next, the next

presidential election of putin, even then, given the already complete decoration of these elections, the next election must be held somehow, i don’t know, it’s already a noble assembly, the election of a tsar there or something and in this form, coronation, coronation instead of coronation, so something, something, something is already serious. still need to, relatively applause, by the way, well , first of all, it’s not so much about, it’s not so difficult to do, there are people sitting specially who start applauding in the middle of the hall, and you too, especially a foreign journalist thinks that maybe it’s such a tradition , so to speak, in ukraine , the quakers join in and applaud, and there were not only journalists at the nato summit. the participants of the summit applauded, and that is absolutely normal, and i

myself would have applauded zelensky, it is another matter that when you come to the press conference, and well as if by idea you want, should ask any sharp question, well, you shouldn't have the desire to applaud after that, because it somehow looks not quite sincere then, in principle, yes, well, we saw that... what sharp there were no special issues, and you see, i agree with volodymyr here, the war is all right, and it’s just a problem that this is the understanding of both foreign leaders and foreign journalists, and the absolute understanding of ukrainian journalists about that you can't, god forbid, somehow in a way to annoy our commander-in-chief, because god forbid he will do something wrong there, the plan is not there, he will not draw somewhere and so on. that's right, but it plays a bad role with him

, roughly speaking, yes, it's bad with him, the problem is that we ourselves create huge problems for him, we ourselves create them, because if we don't ask, if we don't ask, then the next press conferences will simply be answers , yes no, gone to hell, yes, and because of one press conference there will be no press conference at all, because there is no sense... in this it won't be easy for him personally , that's it, that's it, they feel sorry for us and we feel sorry for ourselves , so, well, well, the country is in such a situation , the problem is that we can be in such a situation in a year and in two and in three and in n' for five years, and the less we will hear , just give it, i'm not talking about answers anymore, i 'm not talking about answers anymore, because i don't need answers anymore, to be honest, hearing questions is just sharp. i am not even interested in the answers anymore, but just sharp questions, well, well,

well then, well what, well then, then narcissism, this will be the least of our problems, in principle , and his problem, and mr. volodymyr, a very short question, i hope for a short answer, will it not happen that zelensky will end up in this information bath, where everything will be cool and good for him, a. .. it will be bad, yes, well, listen, there is no such bath, constant, first of all, informational attacks from russia, in which, unfortunately, some of our oppositionists also participate. rather, our oppositionists set topics, and russia uses this as a subject for information special operations, what a warm bath there, just like that when there was a final press conference , there was no warm bath, on the contrary, that's why zelensky was nervous there, because there were more pressing questions, now i think the format itself just worked, the second anniversary

of the russian full-scale invasion, the topic is not for internal conflicts , not to find out about the relationship, it is more important about the results and prospects, about the war, not about internal conflicts, so i am just about something, i am not waiting for a warm bath, the problem for him is only growing, there will be more even more, but these are problems not only for him, for all of us, this is our country, and not only zelensky's problems. totally agree with you gentlemen, we need to take a short break after a few minutes. pause, let's go back to the studio. events, events that are happening right now and affect our lives. of course, the news feed reports on them. however , it was not enough to know what was happening. it is necessary to understand. antin borkovskii and invited experts soberly assess the events, analyze them, modeling our future. every saturday at 1:10 p.m

repeat on sunday at 10:10. studio zahid with anton borkovsky on espress. friends, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. throughout our broadcast, we conduct a survey, we ask you about whether you believe that this year will be a turning point for ukraine. yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have your own opinion and do not answer the question yes or no there, you can write in the comments under this video. if you watch us. smartphones or phone and vote if you believe that this year will be a turning point for ukraine (0800-211-381) no (0800-211-382) all calls to these numbers are free, call. let me remind you that today we have viktor boberenko, oleksiy holobutskyi and volodymyr fisenko on the air, and mr. viktor,

because regarding zelenskyi’s statements about the year 2030 for russia and in general for how russia influences, or will influence, or how it can influence preparing a plan for the delegitimization of volodymyr zelenskyi, i have quite a few questions for you simple, that is, if our special services say that such a plan exists, and the russians can implement such a plan, then why do you think the ukrainian authorities will not make an explanation. the legal affairs of the constitutional court, or, well, in this case, the constitutional court, which could clearly arrange all the dots so that no one speculates at all, that no one says that the opposition throws some narratives there, and then the russian federation picks them up, well, here but very often zelenskyi himself says that there is some alleged

opposition, without naming specifically what it allegedly is throws what at... who specifically , when you quote, said that the president will be illegitimate after may 20, for example, i dislike volodymyr oleksandrovich and absolutely consider the office of the president to be illegitimate, that it is not a constitutional body, but at the same time i consistently declare everywhere and wherever possible that, in my opinion, the president will be legitimate until the next president is elected, and that is, his legitimacy will be there even in the sixth year of the war, for the sixth, the sixth year of his presidency and the seventh, if it is necessary, not only that, even when the war is over, it may still be necessary to demobilize the army, for 3-4 months, so that some elementary order will pass, and only then will it be possible to adopt additional laws

regarding voting for the president, the people we are. .. let’s liberate crimea and donbas and only after that some elections will be held somewhere, and for me personally, zelensky will be legitimate until the next president is sworn in, but it’s the same with the parliament, as if the parliament’s legitimacy faded last fall, but for me those laws, the law on mobilization, if they adopt it, will be legitimate, for me i don't even need any explanations, okay, it is necessary, let them do it, very often... the office of the president is playing with this, what if there is some mythical sin, and tell me, tell me the name , are you ashamed, why are you ashamed, if you think that someone, cite that someone there... that some one of the politicians of the dep or extra-parliamentary politicians says that the legitimacy of the government will be apart from aristovych, for example, aristovych says what is needed,

i can say, aristovych is not a politician, so what pole is already a politician, already a politician, yes, how to count, but at least who, whom do the sub-oppositions have in mind, that they are preparing some kind of connecting rod for bosim there or something else, and also... very often in our country, the office of the president throws that's the kind of stuff that is an internal enemy, the biggest internal enemy in the state of ukraine is corruption, which is actually bred by the president's office, it's not me and not some mythical opposition, i used to buy for 17 hryvnias, that's right no no no no we gathered here with by you, we can... adopt a law on mobilization, we do not release it a successful commander-in-chief, and it is not us who are making a mess in society, we have

, in february 22nd, there was some kind of social agreement, yes, that we do not touch the authorities, the authorities , for example, do not fight with the free press, and what did they do , they kicked out the free press from the tv channels, including the espresso tv channel, which i respect and love, isn’t this a violation of the social contract, a direct violation, and they are now building a facade democracy in our country, they are building something like hungary, orbán, they are building it to ukraine, under the guise of our struggle for it in general, for civilization, thank you, thank you, mr. viktor, mr. volodymyr, you wanted to react, i see, well, i just wanted to remember who is talking about it. that on may 20 the powers of the president will expire, i can name a specific name, karl volokh, for example, karl volokh, that i heard who karl volokh is, well, since your

channel also showed his speeches, i think that they know very well this person, the viewers of your tv channel, some others in social networks, it is discussed, yes, so listen, regarding who throws, not only the office of the president, washington post, about... the plans led by kiriyenko, about the plans for destabilization in ukraine , in particular the use of the topics of the legitimacy of the president of ukraine, the authoritative and respected publication washington post reported, kiriyenko is a russian politician or ukrainian, well, he is a deputy, yes, a deputy leader office, manager, you just explain to our tv viewers, because we are talking, as it were, about the opposition inside ukraine, and why such a thing is invoked. i am not talking about the opposition, i am talking about the fact that in this case, we discussed, in particular, the colleague he mentioned the shatun plan, by the way, the shatun plan

, let me remind you, this is a story from the time of poroshenko, so you see, presidents change, but the topics remain the same, by the way, the same situation is also about corruption, but now the pashinsky case is very ambiguous a character who also had patriotic deeds, and unfortunately, he became one with the symbol. of ukrainian corruption, we had corruption in the 14th year as well, let me remind you, do you remember the topic of blood trade, the 15th year and many other things, unfortunately, this is our old disease, i don't say anymore about the times of yanukovych and so on, i am talking about the times of the current war, which has been going on for 10 years, corruption did not appear last year, in this case, we will remember the corruption of the times of zelensky here no less, and she asked, even more questions. and in the times of the other, it also exists in the times of zelensky, unfortunately, it is a systemic disease, corruption in public procurement, it is not only the ministry of defense, it is, unfortunately, a systemic

phenomenon, so it is a separate topic, so i am just saying here i would not reduce everything to the president's office, he has his own problems, there are tatarov, the problems of the tatar region, and what about the tv channel, with all due respect, well, i watch it on cable tv, not only on telethon. you can look at it, it’s not there, really, yes, but still, let’s not compare, i’m a principled opponent, there you put the orbán regime and our political system on the same board, there is a difference, a fundamental difference, that’s why i’m not a supporter of such simplify, and again these are the plots of an internal war, and we still have an external enemy to deal with, you know, i don't like the orban regime... there is an analogy such in the head, and with kuchma's time, because it is very similar to the kuchmiv simibayar region, there five

people rule the state. the mass media are somewhere far away, and we will throw out those who don’t like it, it’s okay, bayarian ladies, it ’s about russia, about yeltsin’s time, we had everything else, and by the way, you mentioned about marchuk about marchuk’s resignation, so i’ll remind you, leonid danylovych was dismissed by marchuk, and then after the presidential elections of 1999 he returned him, no, he returned him between the first and second elections. here it is important to note when, when the presidency was at stake, mr. oleksiy, please, what do you say about our discussion with historical excursions, i have a program on my youtube channel that i host, called betrayal or victory, i am in such a situation right now, these words or, so to speak, so and together, together always and betrayal and

victory, always together. when i heard about the predecessors in the 18th year, i understood that it was all finny telemedia, when i hear about the predecessors now, i understand that, well, that somewhere approximately somewhere, that's how it continues, yes, i completely agree with volodymyr, corruption has always been there, corruption remains, the problem is that, well, well, how to say it, i don’t know yet... what slogans should the next president come with, what will he promise in the fight against corruption, in the soon fight against corruption, so that our people once again, so to speak, surprise us all with their choice, because the problem here is not even corruption, but the fact that, well, listen, we all know each other, we all professionals, great, i perfectly understand, the main problem

not even in words, the problem is that... nothing has systematically changed, nothing has changed, all the same streams, all the same people, all the same responsible, everything has remained, and this is probably the biggest problem, that it is not is changing, but we should just finish your program, where 15 seconds, yes, well, orbana orbana more democracy, absolutely, i say without irony, absolutely. wins the elections, then we will argue, it is not the first time that orbán wins in democratic elections, thank you, maybe we will wait, gentlemen, maybe we will wait, that

someone will ask zelensky what... and all his friends are still with their hands, well, as zelensky once asked poroshenko at the stadium. thank you for participating in the program. oleksiy holobutskyi, viktor boberenko and volodymyr fisenko were on the air of our program. we asked you today, friends, about this, do you believe that this year will be a turning point for ukraine? 50 on 50, that is, in the results of the television polls on youtube, 54, yes, no - 40, 46. thank you, friends, for participating in the program, this was the verdict, conducted by serhiy rudenko, goodbye, take care of yourself and your loved ones relatives serhiy rudenko, goodbye, take care of yourself and your family until 8:00 p.m. 12-year-old andriy babych and svyatoslav

volchasny. and all these guys disappeared in the temporarily occupied territories of the kherson region, and no one knows where they are now, so i really hope for your help. of course, first of all i am addressing the residents of the temporarily occupied territories of the kherson region. i know that you do not have ukrainian tv channels currently broadcasting, but i hope that maybe you are watching this program on social networks, so please take a close look in the face of children. ah... babich will be 13 years old in the summer. the boy is thin, has dark blond hair and brown eyes. he was last seen in the kherson region, in the skadovsky district, in the village of novazbruivka, about a year ago. svyatoslav volchasty looks 12 years old. he is of medium build and has blond hair. disappeared in the territory of henichuv district of kherson region, which was occupied almost from the first days of the war. and...