when every day, every morning, the whole of ukraine observes a minute of silence in memory of those who died in the war, all those who died, both military and civilian, who defended the territorial integrity of our country. a moment of silence. let's honor with a moment of silence the memory of ukrainian soldiers and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war that... it was unleashed by russia.

greetings, you are watching the svoboda ranok project, my name is oleg galiv, and in this broadcast we are talking about... the most important thing. in the avdiyiv direction, the defense line has been stabilized in the areas of tonenko, orlivka and berdychiv oleksandr tarnavskyi, the commander of the operational and strategic grouping of tavria troops, announced this. in the meantime, the forces of the russian federation captured two more villages to the west of the city, the steppe and the northern. this withdrawal of the armed forces is confirmed in kyiv. we will talk further with the military about the situation in the avdiiv region. the white house has said that the united states will not send troops to fight in ukraine. denied such a plan and in

the alliance itself, how probable is the involvement of the army of individual nato countries and what could lead to the entry of nato troops into the war to unlock aid to ukraine, us president joe biden met with leaders of both parties of congress at the white house. the armed forces of ukraine are forced to limit the use of ammunition precisely because of the inaction of congress - the confident american president. us senate majority leader chuck schumer called the meeting at the white house one of the most tense. writes cnn, so what did you agree on? your likes and subscription to radio svoboda's youtube channel are important. in the chat under the broadcast , also share your impressions of heard russian troops have already advanced south of the steppe near avdiivka. this is reported by analysts of the deep state project. the village itself is already occupied by the russian army. the day before, the operational-strategic grouping of tavria troops confirmed the withdrawal of the armed forces. of ukraine from this

settlement, as well as from the neighboring, northern one. the commander of this direction, brigadier general oleksandr tarnavskyi, says that the ukrainian forces, i quote: have stabilized the defense line in the tonenko, orlivka, and berdychiv districts. we have comments dmytro lykhovii, the spokesman for the tavria operational-strategic group of troops , said that fierce battles continued for stepov and severne, but the armed forces of ukraine withdrew from there due to the overwhelming number of russian troops. let's hear how he explains the departure. armed forces it happened in principle , er, according to a similar scenario, as in lastochkino , when the enemy had an advantage in personnel, er, had a great advantage in aviation, bombarded the settlement and our positions in it, with aerial bombs, controlled by cabs, so-called, hit with artillery. e in a populated place

that is actually no longer populated, and in recent days there is such a tendency that the russians are increasing the number of their assault groups, and if earlier they attacked in groups up to a detachment, now it can already be groups up to a platoon, and sometimes to the company, that is, the enemy has a numerical advantage. in such conditions, and i reported about it the day before, about the fact that the line of defense was chosen, the line in the areas of the settlements of tonenko, orlivka and berdychi, the terrain itself should contribute to the defense there, the cascade there, the reservoir is certain, well actually... this

was the priority chosen, thus units of the armed forces of ukraine in the avdiyiv direction continue to conduct a defensive operation, not everything is like that. simple, as it may seem to someone, is happening in this direction for the enemy, because, for example, near the village of orlivka, the assault groups of the russians were blocked on the approach to the village, or on its extreme outskirts, and despite the fact that there is still fighting there with the support of the russians, very powerful artillery, mortars, fpv, drones, attack drones, and aviation. it is also interesting that the russian ministry of defense the day before also announced the capture of the northern one, but the capture of the steppe, which is called petrovsky, is currently not reported, although russian pro-war publics and state media journalists are distributing videos of the alleged clearing by russian troops of the typical.

anatoly nikitin, junior sergeant of the battalion of the unmanned aviation complex of the third separate assault brigade, joins our broadcast at this moment. my greetings to you. good morning. thank you for the opportunity to join anatoly, what is the situation in the avdiiv region now? where are the forces of the russian federation moving and which ukrainian villages and cities are under the greatest threat as of now? let's start with a little lyric: all the cities of our country are now under the crosshairs, this must be understood. russian troops, unfortunately, are moving to uzhgorod, and this must also be understood. the point is where they will stop. defense forces of ukraine, now in the sector in which my unit works, the situation is very dynamic and very difficult for us, i am not really interested in whether it is difficult for the enemies, but i see on the remote control of the drone, i see that it is much more difficult for them than for

us, because we work from a dynamic defense, in relation to populated areas, as i see it, in my humble opinion, and the front line really. stabilizes, i completely agree with the official position, here from the trenches it is also more or less visible that the front line is beginning to subside little by little, it is still difficult, because the enemy is already using compared to even last year, even six months ago, in there wasn't that much of it fpv drones exactly, this is becoming a systemic problem of our troops, so if one of your friends or... or acquaintances collects portable rap or mobile rap in equipment, be sure to help this person, and this is really necessary, and secondly, the enemy massively deploys precisely coordinated wave strikes on adjusted air bombs or air bombs with

a control planning module, and we hope that we as the infantry, and i as particularly as an aerial reconnaissance and ... strike drone operator, i hope that we find the keys to this lock and in we will be a shield that will nullify this advantage temporarily in enemy air. mr. anatoly , i would like you to clarify militarily, without interrupting, the stabilization of the front line, in simple language for the viewers who are now watching svoboda ranok and in general for the readers of radio svoboda, what this means, it means that until now were much more active assault by russian forces has now succeeded. align this line in plain language, how to explain it? the russians are starting to run out, they are starting to run out, they are throwing into the attack the forces available in order to, as it were, they they are increasing the number of people, for what

, in order to start entrenching in the occupied positions and strengthening the defense, because if the number is insufficient, then we will knock them out. a counterattack, that is, this wave, this build-up, here, well, there was a peak in the avdiivka direction, when they stormed avdiivka, there were a lot of them, then the number of personnel, which they used precisely in the assaults, began to decrease, and now it is rising, not enough for an operation such as spoofing, but more so than, say, average for the day, that means they 're trying at the front edge to increase their... their infantry density to start digging in and start entrenching. we will talk about trenches and fortifications, but you said that the russian forces have a huge number of fpv drones, and about ammunition, what information do you have and from what you can observe, as you say from the trench, how much the russian forces have a lot of

this ammunition and is there a shortage in the armed forces of ukraine, about which the western writes the press that they talk about in the united states for example, well, let's get personal again. my personal perception is that there is enough ammunition in russia, but not as much as it was, let's say, last summer, or even the year before. in the spring, when we were in the kherson region, yes, that is, it was the peak of fire shafts, how the russians showed off mr. suravikin, they fired artillery at everything, now the enemy is still saving shells, there is no such thing as a fire shaft, about our reserves, well, a soldier is such a person who is always not enough and would like to also, i always wish i had... twice as much damage and delivery as i have, that doesn't

mean i don't have enough, it just means i wish there were more, so that i could work more and feel that i have a certain strategic reserve, but compared to the russian number , we have a much smaller number of them, but we have an order of magnitude higher efficiency in the use of these means, we have .. much higher intelligence, we have a lot more precisely, adjustment, that is, russia is still working on planes. an important question at the end of our conversation, it will be about what military analysts, and military experts, and the military themselves are writing about on social networks, and what we would like to hear from you, what is yours, again, as you say, sub "objective vision and what you saw in the direction of nadiivka, behind avdiivka , no field lines of fortifications from the ukrainian side have been built until now," said journalist yuriy butu, his military analysts... they also say about the absence of such powerful fortifications in this direction, what you saw and see, in particular

, the fortifications of cities and villages around avdiivka, maybe the city itself, they were, they may not be so powerful, but how can you estimate? look, avdiivka, as a node of resistance and a military object existed for 10 years from the beginning of the occupation of ukraine, russia. in the 14th year, it is 13 km from the donbas arena, after the start of the full-scale invasion, every day the enemy tried to take the car, the operation to take avdiivka from the assault on avdiivka began four months before the new year, if you do you remember the first news, when they burned one column of equipment behind the avdiiv terekon and... another, second, third, then they took the terekon, that is, how can you say that

there were no fortifications there, if in fact, the avdiivka was held for 10 years in a row , no one there ever stopped defending it, and it was a powerful node, and that is why the russians have been accumulating resources for almost two years, and for the last six months they have been accumulating resources precisely in the donetsk agglomeration and have established their air force headquarters in order to... .watts as they work up to 60 strokes per day with corrected aerial bombs , that is, well, you can’t say that it didn’t happen, well, this is from me, well, this is my personal opinion, this is nonsense, well , how did the city hold up, somehow it held up for 10 years, and there were no fortifications there, but maybe the fact that they were not so powerful, so you can say, well, look, i don't know how powerful the fortifications should be in order to withstand the arrival of three tons of you every hour. without interrupting you, i just want to ask, but outside the city, where there

are other settlements now, what can you observe? what are these fortifications? well, these are infantry field fortifications that allow active, active defense against the infantry and its artillery component, but the enemy, let's say, is now using tactics against which we still do not have an antidote, namely strikes with precisely adjusted bombs of 500 kg of warheads. a hole 5 m deep, it is important that you specify it, because it is necessary that the audience also understand what is being said, and when the statements sound similar, they should be explained. anatolii nikitin, junior sergeant of the bpk battalion of the third separate unit stormtrooper, guest on our broadcast, thank you for tuning in and take care. the white house announced that the united states of america will not send troops to ukraine. this, according to the spokeswoman of the national security council, adrienne watson made it clear. us president joe biden himself. nato secretary general jen stoltenberg also stated that the alliance does not plan to send

troops to ukraine and noted that any decision to deploy troops on behalf of nato would require the unanimous support of all member states. instead, individual solutions individual countries will not require such consent. the czech republic, poland and sweden also clarified that they are not considering the idea of ​​sending their troops to ukraine. meanwhile , russia said that the appearance of nato troops on the territory of ukraine leads to a direct conflict between the alliance and the russian federation, an escalation of the situation, according to kremlin spokesman dmytro piskov, the discussion by western countries about the possibility of sending their troops to ukraine is a new element. shall i remind you how it all began? it all started with the fact that the president of france emmanuel macron said that he did not rule out the use of western ground troops in ukraine. this statement caused quite a stir in the european union, the leaders of the member states do not publicly confirm their readiness for such a step, and some military leaders are still considering in what format it is theoretically possible. we will find out the details from

zoryana stepanenko, the correspondent of radio liberty in the eu, she lives with us from france. zoryana my congratulations, how do you imagine this model in the french government and what kind of feedback has this statement found among partners paris in the european union and nato? good morning, oleg, the words of president macron really shook the nato countries on both sides of the ocean, and they were explained by the top diplomat of france, to the french parliament, and at the same time to the world. emmanuel macron, after a meeting with a number of european leaders, where they discussed increasing aid to ukraine, did not rule out sending a westerner there. troops in the future, noting that there is no agreement on this among the allies yet. the lack of consensus, in fact, was then confirmed one by one by other countries, from the united states states, to britain and germany. a number of capitals ruled out such a scenario and emphasized the absence of plans to bilaterally send their troops to war in ukraine, and participation in the battles was not offered by macron, explained the head of the

french foreign ministry and detailed what role he was talking about. it does not foresee clashes with the ambassador's russian forces. we need to think about new actions to support ukraine, they should meet very specific needs. i mean, in particular, demining, cyber defense, on-site production of weapons on the territory of ukraine. some of these actions may require a presence on the territory of ukraine, without crossing the border of hostilities. nothing should be excluded. a representative of the elysée palace explained to journalists on the condition of anonymity that macron made it clear to the russian president with these statements. that france is determined to prevent any victory of the russian invasion of sovereign ukraine. the interlocutor emphasized that it was not about the actual sending of troops, only about the evolution of western support, which in two years went from sleeping bags and helmets to tanks and fighters, and about what was excluded once, but is not removed from the list of options now, noting that

this discussion is necessary. in the white house, however, the appearance of american, in particular , troops in ukraine was even ruled out. in a non-combat role , added that the united states troops currently stationed there are only keeping an eye on the accountability of american weapons transferred to ukraine, and the top dutch general said there are other ways to help, such as sending more weapons, besides thinking about soldiers in in the form of nato on ukrainian soil, believes that this is not the right time, but in case of such a scenario , a coalition, not a few countries, should rally around it. i think president macron wants to ... show that we should have all options on the table, and it 's a long shot, i don't think it's possible now, but i think what he wants to achieve is that we're going to consider options other than the ones we resort to now, delivering materials and ammunition and providing training to ukrainians, this is a far-fetched option, and i don't think nato countries really want to do it yet and never know that

will happen over time. the commander of the british army notes that... the situation for ukrainian forces may drag on for the next few months against the background of a lack of ammunition and general supplies, aid from overseas has not yet received the approval of congress, and europe, as tony radakin noted, is not yet in will be able to compensate for it, well , the head of european diplomacy, josep borel, has also spoken about this more than once, but in nato, the british general added. they are already discussing how to strengthen support and, accordingly, overcome the challenges that have arisen before the ukrainian one army, and european security. olezhe thank you very much zoryana, zoryana stepanenko, radio liberty's european correspondent, explained to us what the statement of the french president actually meant about the possible deployment of troops to ukraine in the future. in the chat under the broadcast, write your thoughts about what you have heard and seen, i see that you are very interested in the topic of how entrenched or not entrenched the armed forces of ukraine were in the avdiiv direction.

we will talk about this further, in particular with our guest ivan yakubets, the head of aeromobiles of the airborne assault troops of the armed forces of ukraine in 199. 2005 joins our broadcast, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, thank you for joining, let's stop at these fortifications and stop, let's start with them, although there are many topics for discussion, how do you assess the avdiiv direction, how strong were the fortifications of the ukrainian side, how weak were they, were they at all, they were not there, what journalists and military analysts write about there, and who should be responsible for the construction of these fortifications, it is also important nuance, is it the military? is it still possible to do military administrations, which are the current power on the ground, well, first of all, it should be noted that the abandonment of avdiivka. in my opinion, what happened was that the relevant preparations were not properly prepared in order for them to be able to take up

the defense and hold it, that is why there are now problems with lastochkinny, they surrendered there and a couple of other settlements, and the enemy is trying to advance , i just want to make it clear to you that it is not about surrender, officially, the general staff declares that they moved to more favorable positions, this is so that we have a balance of these. if they had retreated to advantageous positions, they would have held lastochkina and other settlements, but since they cannot hold them, that is, the positions are not prepared, and our troops cannot hold them, because the enemy is advancing and they do not have time to conduct combat operations with the enemy and they don't have time to dig, which means engineering structures in order to equip the defense, that's why i say that they left for the border. and not in positions prepared in advance, this is evidenced by the fact that russia successfully, although gradually so barely, but still moves

forward, squeezing out our troops, because the defense is not ready, first of all there were defensive lines to which they retreated, or now, or the so-called is being conducted now, so , a defensive operation, therefore, is maneuverable with withdrawal to prepared lines. in order to prevent the enemy from developing an active offensive, he is restrained at certain boundaries, up to the boundary at which defenses are arranged, engineering, equipped, that is, boundaries, it may be so, but what is the depth of this zone in which our troops will be retreating is not known to us, and in general it must be said that unfortunately, unfortunately, that means, in my opinion. so far, i have the impression that we have not prepared the appropriate defensive lines, who should prepare them, of course, it is the military command, but with

the support of the military economy of ukraine, that is, we needed cranes, we needed excavators, bulldozers, that is, earthmoving machines and so on, it was necessary to help the armed forces, because the power of their... forces and means might not be enough for a wide or deep defense, the construction of such defense, in this regard, this issue concerns not only the military, but also the state as a whole, i.e. state bodies, the cabinet of ministers should have helped, local authorities that still operate there, that have certain resources in engineering technology, everyone had to take part in this... people equipped in the second world war were called and thousands of them were taken to the appropriate lines, where they dug trenches, anti-

tank ditches, ditches, dugouts and so on with shovels, that was it, and now it was necessary to engineer please who should check the presence of these fortifications and how they are, you said that it is the responsibility of the military command to have them, who should check personally, i don't know the supreme commander-in-chief, the commander-in-chief, representatives of the general staff, who is in the structure of the armed forces... forces of ukraine and is ultimately responsible for how these fortifications are built, if they are not built to the appropriate level. the first and main responsible is the commander who carries out the defense of this given lane, defense, that is, if it is a corps lane, then the width of this strip is somewhere 20-30 km or 40, then the corps commander is responsible for this, because the depth of his defense must reach into the corps, well... well, regardless, it depends on the size of the corps, from 30 to 40 km, and that to up to 60, so this is the first person in charge, who had to answer and raise a fuss and

check everything, the second person in charge is the commander of the front, the operational-strategic direction, who knew that it would be necessary to withdraw the troops from avdiyivka, and also had to monitor how things were going work on those boundaries, which he determined for the next defensive actions. and the third, of course, is the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine. mr. ivan, who was supposed to participate, i told you, all the local authorities that are in the defense zone of our troops, that is, in the lane of operational command, strategic command, that is, it was supposed to be a joint effort of the armed forces and local authorities. i will only say that we talked with the military before ours. he said that, in particular, in those settlements where the armed forces of ukraine are currently stationed, they are outside the borders avdiyivka, there are fortifications, he named which ones, but the russian forces, according to him, use

guided aerial bombs there and for this... it was actually difficult to prepare, because it entails huge destruction, i would also like to ask you a question about emanuel's statement macron, the president of france, who said that in the future it is not excluded that nato troops, meaning, could be involved in the war in ukraine, the white house denied this, other countries too, if you can literally 30 seconds, is it possible such an option that separate nato member countries on the contingent, i would like to finish the continuation of that... they said that, so, with aerial bombs, they were controlled there, they hindered us, in the war someone always interferes with something, but the performance of the tasks had to be carried out in any conditions of the situation, if it is an important strategic or operational issue, is it possible that some nato member countries will send a military contingent to ukraine? i would like to finish the continuation of what you said about the fact that they are there with air bombs...

they have always interfered with us in the war someone interferes for some reason, but the execution of tasks should have been carried out in any situation, if it is an important strategic or operational task, and therefore to blame the russian air bombs, it is nonsense , i'm sorry to say so , or i'm in a hurry, as far as nato is concerned, that means the president of france , his statements, i want to say that what i see here is not so much... the readiness of the nato countries to advance means in this war their forces and means on the territory of ukraine, so much as to mobilize as deeply as possible, so that the feelings of all the political leaders of the countries nato it happened that this war could affect them too, not yet, but it could happen, and it will, so he made such a great psychological and responsible demarche,

let's say. yes, i think that this is a very correct decision of his, because it is necessary to shake this issue even more in the minds of our partners, the heads of nato states, so that they understand how serious the situation in this war is. mr. ivan, i thank you for your professional opinion, unfortunately, the air time is limited, we could talk more, but it was important to hear your position on the topics we discussed ivan yakubets, the chief of the airborne assault forces of the armed forces of ukraine in 1998 and 2005, a guest of our broadcast, aid to ukraine will be voted on in a timely manner, assured the speaker of the us house of representatives, republican mike johnson, after a meeting with us president joe biden with the leaders of the congress, however, emphasized that the united states should first of all think about internal problems, in particular, about the financing of the government and the security of the border with mexico. these are the points in the draft law, which the us congress is trying to pass. i

said very clearly. to the president and everyone in the room, that the house of representatives is actively studying and discussing all possible options for solving this issue, and we will consider this issue in due time, but again, the first priority of the country is our border and the protection of its security. i believe the president can take executive power right now to influence this situation. republicans still did not support biden's request to provide aid to ukraine in the amount of more than 60 billion us dollars, the adoption of the bill was constantly postponed, this is a threat. was the shutdown in the united states, that is, the limitation of funding for the work of the government. the leader of the democrats in the senate, chuck schumer, called the conversation between congressional leaders and biden one of the most intense. he noted that the participants tried to convince johnson of the importance of approval , in particular, of helping ukraine. ukrainians don't have weapons, and how serious the lack of weapons was, and that was the consensus in that room. zelensky will lose the war in ukraine if we we will not find weapons and will not hand them over quickly.

president. before the meeting with the congress , he emphasized the need to help ukraine, he called this need urgent, the consequences of congress's inaction dire. john kirby, white house's adviser on communications and national security, stressed that if military support does not arrive in ukraine within a month or two, russian forces are likely to gain more success on the front lines, both in the east and in the south of the country. the situation is dire and, as i said, not only the russians captured avdiivka, they captured several other towns and villages in just... the last 48:72 hours, these guys, these ukrainian military at the front, i mean they're making a very difficult decision about where and what they're going to shoot , and they run out of shells. i would like to remind you that on february 13, the united states senate supported a bill that provides aid to ukraine, israel and taiwan in the amount of 95 billion dollars, 60 billion of which is aid to ukraine. after that, it had to be approved by both houses of congress, but reps congress went on vacation, and now the approval of the bill may not happen before

the middle of march. meanwhile, in the state of michigan passed.