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shustrova on the espresso tv channel. vasyl zima's big broadcast. two hours of airtime. two hours of your time. two hours to learn about the war and how the world lives. two hours to keep up with economic and sports news. two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become like family to many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio. events of the day in two hours. vasyl winter's big broadcast. a project for smart people. those who care about espresso in the evening. we continue the chronicles of the war. well, i will remind you about our assembly on buggies for evacuating the wounded and transporting combat kits, as well as on automobiles and rescue workers for the 12th separate special forces detachment. look here, here you can see both the qr code and the number, please join it's very much needed on the... front things are just

so much needed, so please, everyone, any help here will be useful. well, kyrylo sazunov, a military man, joined us now. from ssu, a political scientist, my colleague, to a certain extent, you can say, congratulations kyrylo, ms. olga, congratulations, i'm very glad to see you, i miss you, frankly, yes, me too, kyrylo, well, you are in the area more kupyansk such a direction, and here i have slightly different, you know, such opinions on this matter, which express, on the one hand, i see, for example, the statistics of attacks of the russians for yesterday, and there it is very clearly visible that... for example, in the avdiyivka area, they are attacking twice as actively, on the other hand, after all, it is as if for about a week they say that this has resumed active offensive actions, the enemy on in the alemannic direction, wants to go to the black stallion river, how would you

describe it in general, it’s all the same, well , the attacks have weakened, they haven’t weakened, what’s going on with you there, well, actually, it was very interesting to hear about a week or two ago that... ... the enemy is going to advance in the kupyansk direction, he wants to to take kupyansk nodal and kupyansk, and since october he has been climbing here and climbing, daily assaults on positions, daily shelling, a few hours ago cabs were falling, right on the center of kupyansk, on a cafe and on a church and on a residential area, it didn't stop, he climbs here, a fairly large group is concentrated here, and we look at the reserves that are available. quite large reserves, that is, there is no let-up here, there is a constant struggle here, and our 41st brigade holds the defense very tightly, nearby the 57th also takes part in very tough battles, there are also separate brigades, well it's no secret that the 14th is also working nearby, our

41st main brigade, which works here, so they try to storm the defenses every day, every night. every day our guys hold them back, our guys also go and special forces go on sorties, we also do some work, they fly for us, and today cabs, and not only today, and rockets and shells, we also respond, and our mortars and drones are constantly working , artav 41st is probably the best i have ever seen, it also works on the accumulation of the enemy, on the places of displacement on... for the next several months, and maybe even a year, if the help from the allies is not enough for a counteroffensive, then we will maintain a strong defense and strike at the rear, at the near rear, at which the artillery strikes, at distant objects, at which sbu drones, for example,

and our sabotage groups. this is how it looks now. well, i also once again heard different assessments, for example, that now the priority for the russians... after all, the directions there will be to advance in the area of ​​avdiivka, well, the ughledar direction, and as if since they will not have enough strength at the same time to try to capture kupianskyi, they will still wait for putin's election there, for putin's position, and only after that, maybe some kind of remobilization, something like that, what would you say about this, are such expectations not too optimistic? we look at how the russian army was equipped last year on the 23rd, and the same way it will be equipped on the 24th, partial mobilization, hidden mobilization, it is somewhere, well , analysts say, i agree, somewhere around 20%, they still have

there are a few regular troops left, although most of their personnel potential was negotiated back in the 22nd year, and the bulk is somewhere around 50-60 percent, i believe. of the russian military now are mercenaries, this is a much larger part - this is the population of such depressed regions, dagestan, yakutia, buryatia, such poor outskirts, where the prisoners are now no longer trying to lie about maneuvers, got lost, did not know where they went, they, they honestly say that we can't earn that kind of money, no. someone has debts for housing and communal services, for something else, and they say, well, at least we'll make money here, they are paid enough, they sign contracts , there are criminals, but they are not the majority either , the majority are mercenaries, so i do not see the point of any new mobilization for the russians , because they are now compensating for their losses entirely with mercenaries and

migrants, they also receive salaries, wages and bonuses she also has russian citizenship, that is, that's what we have, so i don't see any particular sense for them... to strengthen mobilization, while mercenaries , unfortunately, they cover holes and they press everywhere. yes, avdiivka, bakhmud, klishchiivka, chasivyar, bohda. hryhorivka, this is this area, we fought there somewhere, well, for quite a long time, about a year, until we were transferred near kupyanskyi, and i have photos with my brothers, it is from bohdanivka, it is from hryhorivka, from chasovyar, today the boys they sent me photos, they say, do you remember how we filmed videos there, walked around chasik, we went to chasik to rest from bohdanivka, from hryhorivka, i know these cities, it's very hot there right now and it's very hot in the avdiiv region , but who will say that... it is cold and quiet in zaporozhye, for example, in robotno, no one will say that, it's very tough there,

the marines who are on the krynky, on the left bank in the kherson region, there are also my brothers, my old friends, we are in constant contact, there is also a lot of tin, and we also have very, very it is uncomfortable, that is, the enemy is pressing everywhere , and they are waiting to break through somewhere, somewhere we will hesitate, somewhere someone will leak, as they say in our country, somewhere they will be able to break through the defense and the reserves will immediately go there. they are looking for a point where we are not, at the moment, unfortunately, they have the strength to press everywhere, not to attack en masse, as on the widow lately, to press and wait, where someone will tremble, where the defense will not be strong enough, it seems to me that this is the situation now, huh, and you said such an interesting thing about the fact that there are mostly people, mercenaries, but has that impression changed their training , well, that is, they are more prepared people, less prepared, as it were... i assessed what has changed in relation to the enemy itself, which, well

, actually attacks, because it has also constantly undergone changes during these two years, so it was some kind of, well professional military, then there are mobilized ones, that is, different ones categories, how would you describe them now? olya, i will say that nothing has changed in the last two weeks and the last month is not the last of what you have seen during the time that you are already at the front, that's how time is. the professional russian army was the first to be destroyed, about 40,000 who entered first were the most well-equipped and prepared, then there was a period in them when these people who were mobilized, who were trained for a week, sat very little and were the first to quit, really left there are also units, they are more mobilized from the occupied territories, donetsk region, luhansk region, they... are given first, they are poorly equipped, this happens, simply to open up our fire

positions, because it is in the 41st thunder brigade, our tactical unit, it is a fire support company, we are everywhere , machine guns , anti-tank group, drones, mortars, that's why we work with all units and we see that sometimes it's just a matter of opening where our mortars are, where the machine gunner is sitting, where the positions are, they throw those who don't feel sorry for when they already have an idea about our... positions go small groups of more trained soldiers, and the bulk of them are already trained, all the same there are no jerks, there are no stupid rusnyakovs, there is a sufficiently prepared army, it differs from those who entered in february in march of the 22nd year by the fact that they they are not just prepared, they have already fought in this war, in the modern war, about which our guys, my brothers, veterans who have been fighting since the 14th year, say that now the war is very different from the previous one. in 15-16 years, everything changed very much, very new realities, that's why the one who is fighting now has a modern experience:

the most dangerous enemy and the most beautiful ally, so, for example, i am very ironic when our guys go to study in poland, lithuania, great britain, with all due respect, our guys here have the experience modern, this very war with russia, in this very area, they will best train the replenishment, than any special forces. or a military instructor somewhere in other conditions, who saw the war two years ago, three years, five years ago, that's it, that's why we fight with sufficiently prepared, sufficiently equipped, well-trained opponent, unfortunately, i am, you understand that i myself am from donetsk, then i lived in buch, i do not have any warm feelings for the russians, i just hate them, why did i put my laptop away and already working with weapons, but well, i must say that yes... there is quite a tough, quite strong opponent, and sometimes we

even have to respect them for how they can actually hold the green in three, hold the dugout, call fire on themselves , and we storm them in eights, and that's very even it's hard, the enemy is very strict, you shouldn't underestimate him, and that's why we are now very tense for such posts in social networks, and journalistic materials, that the russian is stomping, i... undress, not undress, undress, our positions are climbing, but we put them here in stacks, not always so easily, not always so beautifully, especially since there are still more of them, they have more shells, not like at the beginning of the 22nd, then it was just tin , there was almost nothing to answer , but they still have more shells, more of everything, us we compensate, well, i want to win, because we have nothing to throw here, because this is our land, and every guy defends his home, the same guys with me are guys from kharkiv, mykolaiv, odesa, there are guys from kirovohrad region, there are kyivans, there

are people from buchan, our people from irpen, there are guys from lviv, from the frankiv region, there are even hungarians from... it is sometimes very difficult to understand them because of their language, but everyone defends nekupyansk, they defend nekupyansk zlovi, as they did not bahmud , everyone protects their home, we understand that the rosnyans will stop, they will climb, climb, they will climb as far as we will allow them to, so we keep them here now, but the enemy is quite, quite heavy, and tell me that now they still have shells, because it was, well, for a certain moment, she was completely desperate the situation now? equalized , not equalized, well, that is, however you would like to judge , equalized and there was parity, when rusnia shouted that as the ukrainians have as many shells as we do, it is not fair, it is unfair, our counter-battery fight was almost always won very hard, this was somewhere in the beginning summer, somewhere in the middle of july,

that's when we reached not even parity, there were also a little fewer of us, but i... again , in the 41st brigade of the party, but also in others and in the 115th 57th, with whom they worked , there are a lot of them in our artillery, i met a lot of compatriots from donetsk there, because there are a lot of boys and girls with technical education, either secondary or higher, and they work in the artillery, well our experienced guys are already grinding them, and our arta works much more efficiently, especially, of course, with the western one, with western ammunition , western barrels, that is, if, in order to hit the target, according to the instructions, theoretically there are three shots, ours cover from the second, sometimes from the first, the same mortars we have work very, very well, so that, on that the enemy wastes time and a few volleys, ours work faster, we have much better trained artillerymen, there are

new guns, again from the allies, new ammunition, the same scalibur that covers. range, and artillery duels, battery fights, mortar fights are the same, it's like it's censorious to say, now, the principle , well, it doesn't sound censorious, it's censorious - it hit so and so and run away, it looks like this, because now you will immediately be retaliated against, precisely with each other and snipers and artillery work like this, ours work quickly, they left according to the coordinates, took off the drones, worked them out and quickly drove off, they arrived in that city, but they are no longer there. recently, guys, we were delayed a little bit, we had to evacuate for a while, it was very muddy, we climbed out there and the delay is bad, well , we have to work fast like this and it helps us, on unfortunately, some of what was based on western concepts, on western weapons, does not work as planned, for example, tracked

mortars, self-propelled, orta, this is very cool, very cool, no one expected that, especially in the snow, they for... they leave their mark, this is the verdict, that is, there are many such nuances , some things turned out to work better, very simple, there is a mortar, in the back, pickup trucks , left, the guys threw it away, i took a photox of the last exit, guys they threw out the mortar, fired quickly, threw it somewhere a pickup truck, we just hopped in and drove off, that’s it , everything flies there, shells, rockets, there’s only a frightened hare on a terrified mouse, we don’t have any anymore, these things work better than... modern expensive tracked machinery, well, which is easier to find and the drone flies and everything , well, maybe you know, in the summer somehow it won't be so dramatic, we'll see, listen, well, it's been here for so long, i don't believe that there is summer , that it's dry, that there can't be mud or snow, it seems to me that it has always been here, yes,

there is a little bit of that, tell me, but now, in principle , such a very active discussion arose after ours, retreated from avdiivka and it turned out that, well, not so, engineering and fortifications are not as good as we would like it to be, and well, this discussion , i think, continues throughout the front line, as far as it for you, this issue of fortification engineering structures is important, as far as it is for you, well, let's say , critical, or do you still assess your situation better, worse, then, well, i, i understand that we cannot directly detail about is to say, but still you understand that this is such a hot topic now, well, you understand how military man, what do i have to say, i have to say:... if we withdraw, then we withdraw to pre-prepared, lazy positions and shut up, there is no need to say more, but as a person, i will tell you, well, you

understand that not there are always these positions , we were taught back in the spring, at the beginning of the spring of 22 , when we were still defending lysichansk, we were taught, you were thrown into the field in the green, to land in some, anywhere, smoke breaks, breaks, coffee, driver drink from eggplant. then everything afterwards, first you dig, dig like a mad mole, you have to bury yourself, who thinks what it is good to bury yourself up to your knees, a dead person who thinks that the belt is good, dead in 10 minutes, who did not smoke anything, who buried himself up to his head and made a hole there, he will survive, then he will smoke, drink coffee, we were taught to stop immediately , of course, no matter how hard you try, you will do it faster and better with a tractor, and i got stuck, i say, i don’t want to tell about the leaders of which cities in question from my small family, but when we asked to make us another position behind our backs, they told us: well, there is a tractor, there are two, i say, yes

you don't have two tractors, well, i'm from here myself , i know how many utility technicians you have, but not all of them are working, and our drivers, tractor drivers don't want to go, and then tanks will come to you tomorrow, and we won't be able to hold them back , and there's nowhere to go, and now i see when they sometimes give out interviews, they say how hard it is, well, i didn't lose my city. you tractors for us to bury ourselves, that's how you have it, that's what happens, it must be a forced story from your point of view, still the mobilization of tractors? if we were under the same soledar, under the same bakhmut, under the same losichanstko , they had the opportunity to expel the equipment, and while the group of snipers that i was covering held the enemy back, held them back for quite a long time, it was the snipers who helped us with a little artillery, well , very, very little, if it was behind us... equipment that would dig fortifications and concrete them, then we would still not be what bakhmut, we would still hold solidar, i think so, but

it seems to me that there is such a psychological moment here, society expects from the politician, from the leadership counteroffensive, liberation of our territories, therefore, of course, the leadership is waiting for it from the military, if one of the commanders there at the brigade level of the direction says, guys, let's go while you keep the military here, let's... behind in case we have to retreat, let's make positions, ask him from above, what are you doing, you have to go forward, go ahead, change territories, that's what it is, right? olya, if we reason that we have bad things left, then it will be long and difficult , we can talk about pagans for a very long time, let's not heap negativity, because the people of utila are also bad, also on their nerves, let them know that it is so, conclusions done, and many new commanders... now, who are not afraid to say it, who understand that they are responsible for life, so yes, well, again, some direction, some brigade depends a lot on the commander

of the company in which you are and from the brigade commander, this is a strategic and tactical approach, if we have in the 41st brigade, the approach is such that we dig ourselves into the ground so much that we are out of there, well , what the hell are you scratching with this, if the company commander considers it the first task.. not to receive a medal or title, but to keep the personnel, then in that's why we're the smallest fathers, probably of all my comrades, whom i know from other units, everything depends on the commanders, unfortunately, no one is safe from the fact that you will end up with the wrong commander, that's why i always speak and all the people who are fighting, who are engaged in this, say that mobilization through the tsk, through the training center where soldiers are taught to dig and build something from boards, is not the same. it is necessary to recruit the brigade so that people know where they are going, for what position, or, as she is joking, trust the people they come to, thank you very much kirill, what kind of commander and where are you

going, recruiting is the future, the third assault, fifth assault charter of the national guard is engaged in this, we are trying to do it, this is how it should be, it seems to me to work, the people of the brigade will go to the tcc, people do not want to go. thank you, it was kyrylo sazonov, a serviceman of the ukrainian armed forces, a political scientist, thank you for joining us, and... actually, civilians should also understand that joining the civil authorities in building fortifications behind our military is not only the task of the military , as well as and the task of that civilian government and those civilian people who live there, and it is important, as it turns out, for them to understand this, and not to think that somehow the military will figure it out themselves. thank you very much to everyone for the broadcast, see you in a week in this format, and then we will have a lot of interesting things on the air.

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18th in ukraine. hour of news on the espresso tv channel. in the studio of iryna koval. i welcome all the viewers and now to the most important events. two civilians were killed. the five wounded may also be people under the rubble. the head of the region, olek seniguv, informed about the consequences of the enemy shelling of kup'yansk in the kharkiv region. the russians hit the central part of the city fap-500 aerial bombs. at least 12 residential buildings, a coffee shop and.