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she ever publicly admitted. all the most important, today at 21:15 in the project says velikiy lviv. a square where everyone gets to speak and everyone is heard. on the air of espresso tv channel. verdict with serhiy rudenko. from now on in a new two-hour format. even more analytics, even more important topics, even more top guests. foreign experts, inclusion from abroad. about ukraine, the world, the front, society. and also feedback, you can express your opinion on the bad day with the help of a phone survey, turn on and turn on, the verdict with serhii rudenko, every weekday from 20 to 22 on espresso. well that now, as marta oliarnyk promised, let's talk about the money in our pockets, well, in our budget. therefore, the message from the head of the budget committee, the people's deputy from the servant of the people, roksolana podla, is important. the budget works in

a cost-saving mode, expenditures in january turned out to be 86 billion less than planned, so from the end of november, ukraine went into a cost-saving mode and many non-priority expenses were simply not paid, this mode continued in january and february, so the state budget revenues in january exceeded the plan by 25%, this is good news, and as a result , the state budget deficit in january was also... smaller than planned. well, now we invite our next guest. yes, marta, let's start. andrii dubas, president of the association of ukrainian banks, is already in touch with us. mr. andriy, we congratulate you and are glad to see you. congratulations. glory to ukraine. slava is the hero. mr. andriy, we would like to ask you what is happening with our money, because the situation looks rather alarming in view of the blockade of the polish-ukrainian border, and we understand what this can cause. certain inconveniences

let's say so, to put it mildly, and the announcement of the complete closure of the border, which donald tusk said yesterday, really causes us certain fears. will there not be a decrease in export revenue and will our economy be significantly affected by this, well , actually the dollar exchange rate will not, as they say , go up rapidly, but partly yes, it may have a negative effect on our economy, but you know, if to look at this in the medium term, it seems to me that there may be more negative for the economy of the blocking country, so look, do we want it or not? but both the european union and ukraine agreed that our ukrainian existential choice is europe, and europe today is ready to accept us, so we have our own products that we export, that we produce, these are agricultural products and others, and so we must

find, we will look for new customers at our own prices, it may affect the economies of other countries, but if we are talking about a civilized association. civilized union, then i think that in such a union they will find understanding. and with on the other hand, i want to say, you see , there is a blocking of the border, and two days ago the european parliament supported the allocation of 50 billion euros to ukraine, a four-year support package that we know, one country that i do not want to talk about on a decent broadcast of a decent channel, wanted to block it, but they found a management and restored order even in such a difficult situation, so it seems to me that ukraine and europe have become even closer during these two years of wartime, ukraine, because ukraine holds its eastern flank, militarily, and europe feels that in case of any upheavals in these international associations, ukraine and

europe are a good union and there can be good cooperation. well, look, mr. andrii, good news has arrived, such a good signal from taras kachaka, our merchant. the representative of the relevant ministry , both about the fact that extremely constructive, albeit difficult, negotiations were held with the polish side, so we will see how the process will unfold, but taras kachka, a person who, so to speak, takes responsibility for what he has formulated, and accordingly, we are talking about 50 billion for four years, well, the amount is astronomical, yes, but for a large country that lives in war. and not the fact that we receive american macrofinance, well, the situation may be much worse than it seems, and if you have such a conspiracy, so to speak, to fill up the debit with credit in our state budget, which is generally the situation with new additional revenues , and what are the possible reserve programs for attracting funds,

well, i would like to believe, you know, so to speak, the global golden billion, so to speak so to speak, it will be possible to reassure the short-sighted american... congressmen, you know, it is unpleasant , frankly, to continue this topic that you are developing, but we really live in such a difficult time, at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, our western partners and the united states showed examples of such strong-willed support, examples, you know, of reliable, reliable friends, and today, unfortunately, we got into such political, unfortunately, moments, let's talk about macrofinance from the european side. of the union, yes, it is 50 billion euros, yes, it is for four years, it is difficult to say whether it is an astronomical amount or not, last year, for example, the total financial support from international organizations, from our international partners for the 23rd year amounted to 42 billion dollars, that is, for

one year, if we're talking about 50, about 50 billion for four years, well, it's not like that and it looks astronomical, where will this money go, how these funds will be directed to ukraine, see. ukraine is now taking on its homework in order for the ukrainian government to prepare the so-called ukraine facility plan, i.e. the plan of this ukrainian fund, the plan for the modernization of the country, the plan for the projects that will allow the country to continue its life activities in the conditions of the war, and so let's conclude now by the brackets of what i said, we have a budget deficit today that is simply colossal, and it was formed not because we are bad hosts in... our country, it was formed because we were attacked by a state larger in size, but smaller in spirit, and it will definitely lose, and we, we now have two years much higher defense spending, just cosmically higher defense spending than we had before a full-scale invasion , that's why this budget deficit, so we,

thank our partners, that these two years they help us close it, about the preparation of this plan, the plan will be prepared for reforms . for modernization, various infrastructure projects for the recovery and reconstruction of the country, and after that, when this plan is submitted to the european authorities, to our european partners, they will approve it. and you can already expect in march or even april the first tranches of receipts for such and such and such a program, and i think that this is a good signal for other countries, because pay attention, when we started turbulence with international financial support in ukraine, we saw such direct agreements with japan, for example, scandinavian countries, with other countries of the european union, which are part of such an international coalition. in order for ukraine to withstand this challenge of the russian federation, they unilaterally began

to give large financial infusions for so that we can fulfill the country's budget , that's why there are reserves, yes, they are, of course, like plan b, let's call it that, because of course we would like it to be like we had in 22nd 23rd year, when the financial the support was rhythmic and the economy did not feel it, you said correctly about the dollar exchange rate so that the economy and other indicators did not feel it. these, this irregularity. mr. andriy, let's be brief, if possible, we understand that this is plan b, we would not like to apply it, but how, for example, regarding the confiscation or use of russian assets, for example, in order for the dividends from their, let's say, activities to go to the state budget, we understand that this is more of a political decision, because there was no such practice before, and we actually hope so now. that common sense will prevail in this matter, how much would the confiscation or seizure of these assets help us

close these holes in the budget? very, very rightly you raised the question, yes, this is one of the additional tools, there are now several scenarios that are being considered in our western partners, for example, one of the scenarios, and i it seems that it is most possible in the quick understanding of the meaning of this word, that is, that in the short term we can get funds, four. 4 billion € are the funds that, from the fact that russian frozen assets were lying in belgium in eurokla, they received a certain, let's say, accrual of income, and thus these 4.4 billion, well, it seems to me that this is the easiest option, which may already arrive in ukraine, but on the other hand are also being considered, yesterday, by the way, there was a very strong speech by the minister of finance of the united states of america on the subject confiscation or use of assets to overcome. of all the negative damage that the russian federation has done to us, and now they are working on alternative options,

such as, for example, when these funds can act, for example, as collateral for various investment purposes, or that these funds have already been confiscated and used by ukraine for the needs of reconstruction and others, that is , i am convinced that in the short term, certain steps will be taken with these funds, and i hope that... in the future, the total amount of all there is about 260-300 billions of dollars can be used for the reconstruction of ukraine, because russia has caused and continues to cause us much more destruction and destruction, so it is fair, thank you mr. andriy, andriy dubas, president of the association of ukrainian banks was eteri espresso, they talked about our financial issues , how we manage our budget as we wait for help from our allies, and actually... how russian seized assets can help us get through tough financial times. let's go further

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the information day of the tv channel is in full swing... we are adding victoria to our air maksimov's analysis of the movement is honest. mrs. victoria, we welcome you. i congratulate you. so, the movement is honest, and you specifically calculated how much public money, i.e. money paid by ukrainian taxpayers, the opposition platform spent on its needs during its lifetime. a political force that is now banned in our country, before a full-scale invasion by the russian federation. and actually, in the figures that are given. on the website of the honest movement, it is about more than uah 140 million for the period from 2021 to 2022 . why exactly such an amount as at all. the amount allocated to the needs of one or another political force is calculated, so that we generally understand the logic of where this money was allocated and why

it was allocated in such a quantity, and in general the total amount of state financing of parties, it is determined according to the formula that is fixed in the law on political parties, eh, that is, it is 1% of the minimum wage, it is multiplied by the total number of voters and is already proportionally distributed among the parties. who passed to the parliament, according to how many percentages they scored, that is , her opposition platform during her life, she received as a percentage, as much as she received in the previous parliamentary elections, er, that is why such sums, accordingly, the servant of the people receives the most, from 2022 year from the opposition platform for life party will not receive state funding, it did it only in the first quarter of that year, about a month. before the start of a full-scale invasion, if we talk about how much they spent, then this is the amount of uah 140 million, uh, we have to understand that this is not data from their financial reports submitted

by the party itself, this data was provided to the accounting palace by a national agency corruption prevention, uh, so we can't say there the exact categories that the opposition platform spent on during its lifetime, whether it had any other sources of funding over the years, because since 2000... the 20th year of reporting was optional, it was restored only at the end of 2023, accordingly, we do not know the structure of funding or the structure of expenses of this party, we only know that in the first quarter of 2022 it received 33 million uah from the state budget and spent approximately 31 million uah, those funds that she did not spend and that remained in her accounts, they, respectively... returned to the state budget? well, and accordingly, we would like to ask you about the opportunity. you know, there is such a thing as dead parties, that is, legal procedures, they are followed. party on paper

there is some, i don’t know, a pensioner, the owner of three cats, as the head of the party, well, that is, from the legal side, as if we understand that there is nothing to touch on, and on the other hand, we understand that this is such a total fiction, and from time to time in local, regional, various elections, they were held there, we have in what way technologically plus-minus, you can even imagine the amounts and what, well, it’s all this, it’s all gross, but these are the realities and accordingly, as far as we understand , they are going to shake things up here are the dead souls of the party so what will be the criteria as distinguish a small but real party from a large but dead one? in general , it is also established in the legislation that political parties must participate in the general election at least once every 10 years. national elections, i.e. parliamentary or presidential elections, local elections do not fall under this category, in general, such

a system of counteraction to these dead parties is also established, i.e. if the party has not participated in the elections during the last 10 years, then the ministry of justice can file a lawsuit in the court of annulment of the registration of this party, since 2016 the ministry of justice filed 53 such... lawsuits, proceedings are still ongoing in most of them, due to the fact that previously these lawsuits were dealt with by the district administrative court of the city of kyiv, accordingly it was liquidated, some of these cases have already transferred to the kyiv district administrative court, some of them are still in the process, accordingly , there are still no decisions on most of these cases, and we still do not know whether their certificates will be revoked or not , in total from these... three lawsuits the court sided with the ministry of justice 11 times, that is, 11 parties had their registration canceled for not participating in the elections. if we talk about

what is happening now, now the ministry of justice has answered us that they do not have materials to justify this, and they are not preparing new lawsuits in court, and here it is important to understand that this whole story is complicated by the fact that we we do not know when the next elections will be held, accordingly , this and that difficulty is also created for the parties, they simply will not be able to participate in the elections if they are not will be on the one hand, a draft law has been registered in the parliament so that this term will be stopped from being counted towards martial law. however, the authors of this draft law are people 's deputies from the already banned opzh, there are only two authors of this draft law, that is, the chances that it will really be supported are quite small, eh, and that's all, this question, it still hangs in the air, what will happen next with these parties. at the same time, we also... noted that many parties have already started to rename themselves during martial law, because it is impossible to register new parties, it is also impossible to officially purchase or sell a party there, because

it is impossible to get the right. ownership of parties, er, and the most popular, er, way of transferring political parties is to change the name and , accordingly, the heads of these parties, er, and this process already began in 2022, in 2023 it intensified, and it continues even now, political parties are renamed, they are sold unofficially, eh, and accordingly these are these dead parties, they continue to exist, because in ukraine still more than 370 parties are registered, and... from the experience of the last elections there, which took place there in 2019, we understand that most of them really exist only on paper, but for now we cannot expect new lawsuits, since the ministry does not have suitable materials for framing. ms. victoria, if we return to the opz party, we understand that, although they do not receive money now, they still have the right to vote and the right to speak on the podium of the verkhovna rada, unfortunately

, and we would like to do so here. to understand, in fact, how often they use this of theirs, currently still have the right to speak on the rostrum of the verkhovna rada, for example, opzzhist shufrych, who is currently under investigation for treason, we know that he is the record holder among all opezests who spoke from the rostrum of the verkhovna rada during the past year. yes, i'm still catching up just literally briefly, but what about those quota representatives of the opzh party in different places? structures, for example, there are local election commissions and so on and so forth, that is, we understand that at one time they did not get there due to the opzh quota, here with the opzh we understand the situation as such, well, and people on positions on the ground, here we have to understand that the draft law on revoking mandates from deputies of banned parties has not yet been adopted there, it is still being discussed,

and this is a really difficult issue. in this sense of the word, because a balance must be maintained here between preserving here and there the right to freedom of association, freedom of voice and so on, and at the same time cleansing the government of pro-russian influence, there is also a risk that some, for example , local councils, they will lose the required number of deputies in general if they are deprived of deputies from pro-russian banned parties mandates and will act accordingly in those cities. there or in the regions of the military administration, that is , it is such a rather protracted process, which, in fact, is only beginning, and we will continue to wait for how it will end. if we are talking about the speeches of the representatives of the banned opzh in the verkhovna rada, it is indeed dniester shufrych, he had the most such speeches in the period from february 24, 2022, that is, we are talking about 50 speeches

, although now, for example, he is although now he does not speak in parliament, and thank god , you know, as they say, and thank god that he does not speak, and thank god that he has already been removed from the duties of the chairman of the committee on freedom of speech, forgive me, because, well it's actually a bit of a wild situation in my opinion, it's my subjective opinion, but thank you ms. victoria for what you 're doing. the fact that you are following all these things, viktoriya maksimova, an analyst of the chesno movement, was on ether espresso, and we actually talked to her about the situation with the banned opz in ukraine. tim sometimes we move on and we will little by little pass the word to our colleagues from the news, who will be ready to share with us all the most important and relevant things in just a matter of seconds, so iryna

koval. meet iryna koval, to whom we are happy to give the floor. iro, we welcome you, and actually tell us what this issue will be about. thank you, marta, well, in this issue i will tell you about the situation in kherson region and sumy region, as well as what is burning in russia, and much more. wait. 16:00 in ukraine, for your attention issue news on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers. the russians wounded a person in the sumy oblast, the enemy fired artillery at the industrial infrastructure in the vorozhbyan community. the warehouse of the enterprise caught fire, the regional military administration reported. the fire was contained.