why, and not only in ukraine, they work in social networks in many countries, in order to sow chaos in these countries, they can only survive in chaos, therefore order is impossible with russia, order is possible without russia. this may be a slightly different meaning of the word order than the one you had in mind, but now we can have only one order, that is when there is democracy, the rule of law, the coexistence of democratic countries, the inviolability of borders, the right of nations to self-liberate, all of that. .. on self-determination and self-liberation, too, by the way all this is possible without putin. well , let's go now in poland, in fact, a decision was made that the exchange of goods will not be blocked, they will look for some kind of understanding, well, actually, has this search for an understanding begun and, again, how long to wait for it, because the ukrainians have already are used to the fact that if there are some key issues, and russia and local elites are still interested, then it is put in a very, very long box, like , say, the story with the states, johnson again.

says that we are not going to put the issue of ukraine to the vote yet, we will now to think, and it is already, frankly, hands down, you just understand that it is something in poland too, it will be a long story with this solution of the issue without blocking the exchange of goods, or is this another stage that will stretch again, stretch into times, well , look, and the united states of america and poland are our closest allies, and obviously russia is doing everything to sow chaos there in various ways, because if it was, if it depended only on biden, he would have long ago signed the granting of ukraine any what a help, that's for sure if the situation depended only on tusk , i think there would be no blocking of the borders, but in democratic countries there are different political forces, and these political forces take part in elections, speculate, screw the population, screw different sections of the population, in this case agricultural producers, when we talk about poland, and that is why this political... drag is precisely

because these countries are democratic, and there are people who, i would say so, abuse democracy and are engaged in national egoism, and do not take into account the complex the situation in which ukraine is located, choosing, protecting these values, on which these countries are built, so it is difficult for me to say when this will be resolved in poland, i am absolutely convinced that this issue can be resolved only at the ukraine-nato level, since it is a matter of our national security, and openness of borders. and the admission of various goods to and from ukraine, when talking about agricultural goods , obviously, this is a matter of negotiations, but all this hysteria that is unfolding in poland around ukraine is built on false information, that ukrainian goods flooded poland, which is not true, there is an embargo on most goods there, poland is used only for transit, that only oligarchs produce products in ukraine, this is also a lie, 23% is exaggerated. enterprises, and the rest are small

enterprises, and the polish oligarchs, as they say, i do not consider these people oligarchs, these big land businessmen and letefundists are much richer and bigger than ours, so when, when the country lives on myths, political hysteria and politicians support it, there is such a situation that is occurring in poland, which is difficult to solve, but i believe that it will be solved, in the end these polish farmers will kill ukraine at the cost of themselves. now we will listen to the prime minister of the republic of poland donald tusk, he actually spoke about the border, let's listen, then we will continue our discussion. it is no secret that we are discussing with the ukrainian side the temporary closure of the border and the termination of the exchange of goods. i will discuss this tomorrow as well with polish farmers. the solution will be

temporary and painful for both parties. i am ready to make even tough decisions when it comes to the border with ukraine. we always consult with the ukrainian side so that there is no unnecessary tension between warsaw and kyiv, but we must find a solution that will be long-term. in your opinion, this decision should be sought only by ukraine and poland, or at least with the involvement of european union officials and politicians. of the european union, because poland also does not exist autonomously in the european union union, does it have subsidies, does it have aid and does it have any kind of collaboration and coordination with other countries? well, again, if we join the european union, then we should be equal there with others, if the borders are open for polish grain and polish products, then they should also be open for ukrainian ones, this is the position of the ukrainian government, it is fair, therefore poles are afraid that this is the basis and reasons why the european union exists. competition on the part of ukraine,

not even on its territory, but among other countries, it is true, it exists, so for but poland's support in the european union is very important to us, because after the european elections. the union, most likely the party headed by tusk, will be one of the largest parties in the european parliament, the position of rusul fonderlajen and many others will also depend on it, it is a serious powerful political force, despite the fact that all the protests that are taking place are it was precisely initiated by their opponents at first, and now there are various people there, their allies, their opponents, who are not there right now, because of that , you need to pay attention to poland's position, but at the same time you need to be fair to yourself and not humiliate... yourself, er, and because of that the most important thing is the negotiations between us, if it is at all possible, and if it is impossible, then we need to talk not only with the european union, with the european union we need to conduct economic negotiations, and we are doomed to this, but we need to conduct negotiations with nato

on unblocking the border, because this is the border through which weapons come to us and the border, which is the artery for our economy, even outside of agricultural products, and this border blocked obviously, it absolutely is it is shameful to act like this towards a country that is at war, what tusk talked about when he talked about the complete closure of the border, our government officials, by the way, denied it, what is it about, well, it can also remind me of such a certain game, so that if the border is completely closed, then polish entrepreneurs who import goods to ukraine worth 11 billion will suffer, there are a lot of them, that's a lot, it's 10 times less than what... the mileage between poland and germany, and when they tried to block the border with germany, then the polish the entrepreneurs revolted, and there the blockade lasted only a few hours, because it kills the polish economy, and those polish entrepreneurs who trade with ukraine are silent so far, but in the end, if the border is completely closed, i think they will also revolt,

and maybe tusk's government is counting on this , so that it is not him who is suffering with his own hands, but those who really suffer from these thoughtless actions of farmers, other polish entrepreneurs, and they... suffer, so that they, so that another voice is heard in poland , because this other voice is not in the media one hears, but one only hears the untruth spread by farmers, defending their own interests as best they can, this is their right, the country is democratic, but the society must also hear the truth, and so minister kubrakov, the minister of infrastructure, declared that no one from ukraine the parties are not conducting negotiations on closing the borders with poland, you know, it is interesting that tusk declares one thing, they say in our country, we don't do it that way, then the ukrainian side. called to the border, there is no one there, and here one gets the impression that sometimes they somehow act autonomously ukrainian and the polish side, everyone, well, it is clear that i am no longer criticizing the ukrainian government there, because it is clear that the situation is critical for ukraine, but there are some statements that do not correlate with the statements of the other side of this conditional conflict, well, ukraine and poland, poland and ukraine, but i still

wanted to say something, well, i just wanted to ask you as a specialist, maybe explain more, whether it has any connection to the situation that has now arisen in poland, and today a decision was made. commission, it opened access to 137 billion euros for poland, this money earlier, access to this money was blocked there due to certain problems, well, in particular, regarding the independence of the judicial system and reforms of the rule of law, and now the european commission has decided that poland has taken steps to strengthen and correct the situation and now it will have access to these 137 billions, maybe it will somehow ease the situation, or it is a separate story that will not affect in any way. money for what they now want from ukraine, to achieve through ukraine. you asked two questions at once, while i was thinking about the second one, i forgot a little the first so, the first is about politics. so , tusk makes political statements based on his own political situation. when he says that we will close the border, it can

cause a reaction from businessmen who trade with ukraine, from poland, who can express their position in order to calm down the agrarians a little. when our government goes to the border, then... this is an attempt to show its determination to our society, a kind of small theater. i negatively perceive this step, because in diplomacy, theaters are unacceptable, despite the fact that that i very positively perceive shmegal's statement and these five points that he voiced regarding what should be done to settle the conflict, this is called skillful preparation and not skillful submission. and on the one hand, reasonable and correct proposals are very often neutralized by such diplomatic steps, which the same poles cling to, and our relations deteriorate. i try to actually talk to them very often, and they say: but zelensky was fighting us there in oon, he was fighting our duda there, i say, so was the duda, he told us that we drowned man, well, you are there, and taras kachka said such and such, and journalist portnikov said such and such, and we were offended for that, i say, look, trust between

our peoples is everything one is very high, despite all the political polls, the people you name very often just have different points of view, they are far from like-minded and not allies, right? and it is not necessary to rely on this, it is necessary to rely on the essence of the processes that are taking place, and the essence of the processes that are taking place is that ukraine is not guilty of anything, it is fighting, it is protecting you, and you are blocking the border to the price of ukrainians. to get additional funds for themselves, that is precisely the truth in relation to the polish side, because of that, but everyone is, of course, because it is a political issue, everyone uses it politically, the tusk in itself there, our government in itself here, and it would be better obviously , that would not be better, er, this is about the first question, and the second question, remind me, about the 137 billion that were unblocked by the european commission, well, that was a separate story, at one time they froze it, because that, and now they say that poland has taken certain steps and it is possible. access to open this money, we talk a lot about the border here, and polish society

talks about other things, there was a competition between two political forces, peace and the people's coalition, the people's platform, which united two more political forces and they defeated peace, society is divided, there was a lot of criticism from the european union towards peace because they were changing the law on the judiciary and trying to approve european politicians. control independent systems, there are courts, media, and because of these accusations, because they didn't listen to brussels, uh, them, these funds were blocked, and tusk is trying to change the situation in domestic politics, so these funds are being unblocked, and the fact that there are changes in polish domestic politics for of ukraine is actually positive, because we would also like more democracy in our country, and we know that, among other things, the european parliament voted today on a resolution on ukraine, where... many things indicate the lack of democratic procedures in for ukraine, for example, regarding the ban

on people's deputies going abroad to international conferences where ukrainians must be represented, because when there are no ukrainians there, anti-ukrainian sentiments are born and generated because of that, so the struggle for democracy is one thing, and here , both here and in poland we must continue to do this, and here we must be allies, the struggle for markets and the economy is something else, as it turned out, it is tougher than the struggle for... and sometimes more fateful than the struggle for democracy , and here, of course, to support the polish in this politics, well, it is extremely difficult, well, and one more thing, today we voiced the question about a new world order without a strong russia, whether there is a non-aggressive russia, but the russian dictator putin today delivered such a rather lengthy message to the federal assembly of the russian federation, in which in particular, he stated that world order is impossible without a strong russia, let's go to the ambassador. it is obvious that

we need to work on forming a new contour of equal and indivisible security in eurasia in the near future. we ready for substantive conversation on this topic with all interested countries and associations. no strong world order is possible without a sovereign, strong russia. let's talk. a sovereign, strong russia, that is, he already doubts that russia may not be sovereign and not strong at some stage, and however you comment on it, well, in principle , today putin talked more about russia’s internal affairs, although of course he also mentioned missiles and about svo and so on. well, look, what putin says doesn't matter at all. obviously, this is a person who survived the madness and who does not love people and humanity, this is a person who destroyed and continues to destroy ukrainians, it is somehow difficult to comment on him even there. but as for russia itself, no one like putin made it as weak as it is now, it is obviously strong militarily, but

it has no contacts with civilized countries, no prospects for development, so they can sell their raw materials there to asian country and at the expense of this to get their army, which comes to destroy ukrainians and wants to destroy the whole world, but is this measure the strength of the country? obviously not. therefore, it is certainly demagoguery, which is not worth anything. i enjoyed today's part. with takar carlson, one of the video bloggers , who is takar carlson himself, here we all curse him and scold him, deservedly, but he says that he has never seen such madness as in this interview with putin, and when putin told him about denazification, he could not at all understand what it was about, that no nazism exists now, he is trying like a child to put a brand on ukraine to justify its aggression, and this is what the far-right taker carlson says, yes, that is, even to those people who would like putin. to sympathize, his insanity is obvious from the first day, so it makes no sense to comment on him, and this is his sore point,

to create a new world order, which from his point of view, when russia will rule the whole world and decide for itself, will be the most important in world and whom he wants to destroy, whom he wants to support, well, this is a fantasy, a phantasmagoria, the 84th year after the urals, no one will build it now, it is simply impossible, and such systems as they are in russia, despite the fact that they are extremely dangerous, but at the same time they are extremely... weak and do not have the potential to have prospects. by the way, at the very end, in confirmation of your words, i will say that today there was information from bloomberg that india will look for new sources. oil imports, because it is afraid of the sanctions of the united states of america, and the empty ports are large in china, which used to be full, because also the sanctions, well, since there is an understanding there that there was some support, obviously from russia, well, that's what would have in the pocket this once again shows that perhaps the fight for markets is really more aggressive, but it can give a greater result, and russia will eventually

sell oil with a surcharge from itself. thank you very much for participating, mykola knyazhytskyi was with us, folks. mps of ukraine discussed current political topics, and i will remind you of the question that we voiced, we asked you today and continue to ask whether a new world order is possible without an aggressive russia, yes or no, let's see how you vote, if i see correctly, yes , well, in the end there will be the results, that's why the phones you see, i won't repeat, i think that everyone, everyone can see the screen of their gadget or tv or. you're watching the verdict program, and now we're moving on to the military topic, which is also very important, because the question of, say, do we shoot down airplanes, is probably the question that most often comes up in conversations today , even between people as far away as they say, both from the battlefield and from military topics in general, mykhailo, mykhailo samus, military expert, deputy director of the center army, conversion and disarmament research,

director of new geopolitics research network, mr. mykhailo, i welcome you. i congratulate you, well, there are 13 planes for how many, in 10 days, if i’m not mistaken, this is how we have such a crop of russian aviation, one version is that we are spending now, as they say, already to the bottom of the patriot missile for petromsiv, the second is that this s-200 is modified in some strange and strange way, it shoots down planes, the third is that it is some ukrainian system that no one knows about, and the fourth is that they say that after all it's an f16 in the sky. in ukraine, no one tells us about it. your opinion? well, my opinion is that it does not matter what they shoot down , the main thing is that it is happening, the main thing is that the ukrainian army, the air force, stop, or try to influence the use of cabs by russia, because in

fact, this is really good news , but what is behind them is not very happy. russia continues. not only reduce, increase the use of adjusted air bombs, about 150 air bombs can use per day, this is a huge number, which greatly affects the conducting offensive operations by russia and defensive operations by ukraine, i hope that these effective strikes on russian aircraft by the ukrainian air force will reduce the use of drones now, although on the other hand... and we clearly understand that before the so-called election of putin, russia will to throw in any resources, including overpriced planes, which they don't have time to produce at the pace with which ukraine is shooting them down, but between whom putin is most interested in it, or the people who stand around putin, the main thing, so that the maximum possible result was recorded in the elections, the most beautiful,

let's say, a beautiful process, so if we talk about what is being shot down, i think... that after all, it's not f-16, but it's anti-aircraft missile systems that can really achieve such a result in different combinations , you know, well, i’m not joking, i’ll just say what is an obvious matter, because i think everyone has seen the video, well, the real video was when the ukrainian military took it with the help of a drone , as there is a certain flying object, a flying object that is not it was possible to determine what it was, because something hung in... and well, it’s not a fake, i’m just not saying it, and you know, there are already such thoughts, they say that it’s obvious that some extraterrestrial civilizations are helping us, or something else some such thing , of course, i'm trying to cheer you up a bit , somewhere you see these videos now, well, it's hard to understand what it is, whether it's something falling, or something flying, well, it's definitely not a phosphorus bomb, but some such anomaly in

the sky was filmed, here again i will say no, and now you are also seeing a video they recorded from... the forces of ukraine a certain unidentified aircraft, which actually did not fly there, it was hanging in the air, you know, here now i understand that it is useless to say that they contributed to this, but i will tell you this, my grandfather fought the second world war and then it was told even when i was still small that quite often during the second world war the armies, and not only there of the soviet union, observed some anomalies in the sky, i i... how would you comment on this, so that you know people will say, well, it must be said that anything can happen, or whether it is something it's just that something like that gave people, well , we can't explain everything, we are limited in our intelligence... in fact, we develop knowledge , at least in facts, we are limited, yes, probably in access to information, that is, in knowledge, humanity is still limited, that is, indeed, i read a certain analysis

and american experts and researchers on this matter, that indeed the american army can often record such phenomena, but there was an explanation that these are really natural phenomena, that is, it can be somehow explained, there is some warm air, cold air, but in principles again... and it's hard to confirm everything, and hopefully someday we'll get to, maybe with artificial intelligence, get to the level of analysis where we'll understand what it is, well yeah, the pentagon at least provided the video, where there was something like that, and there were also hearings in the senate about it, they listened to the military who had similar experiences, they reported to the senators, but in any case, if something is flying there and somewhere is helping us shoot down russian planes, well, suddenly, so ... only for, absolutely, i will now quote the general sirskyi, commander of the commander -in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, and he, after

visiting the area of ​​hostilities in the avdiyiv and kurakhiv directions, where fierce battles continue, praised the fighters of the third assault and 25th separate airborne brigades, who knocked out the enemy from the vicinity of orlivka and promised to allocate avdiiv direction additional reserves, i quote. during work, some commanders had certain miscalculations in mastering the situation and evaluating the enemy were revealed, which directly affected the stability of the defense in certain directions. by me all measures were taken to correct the situation on the ground with the allocation of additional resources, ammunition and material means, as well as the necessary reserves. well, actually, let's talk about syrsky's visit, like you, he is probably in a very hot phase right now, it's kind of difficult to evaluate, but still. syrskyi's arrival in this position in such a responsible period, which would have come anyway, should have been the exit from avdiivka, anyway it should have been with merit or force, as you evaluate his leadership and

here is his stay constantly, in fact, there with some exceptions, where is the cutting edge, how effective is it? well, at the moment , of course, it is too early to talk about effectiveness or ineffectiveness, in principle, when syrskyi was appointed to the position, everyone agreed that he is one of... the most experienced generals, perhaps the most experienced general of the ukrainian army, and that is why his level of professionalism is professionalism does not cause anyone any doubts, so the fact that he is currently active at the forefront, some criticizes, i, for example, support it, that in such a hot phase, when the format of hostilities is really changing now, in general, the 24th year is critical from the point of view of the situation on the battlefield in conditions where the united states has stopped helping us... , we understand that there is a constant shortage of ammunition and other resources, and therefore the presence of the commander,

the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, who, in principle, tries to understand the situation himself, so that it does not happen later that for some reason there are no prepared lines in some directions or insufficient attention to engineering engineering preparation of the territory, or , for example, there are no reserves, his presence and... and control over the actions of the commanders, i believe that this is quite a correct thing, in principle, now he is forming his not only his management system, but his management atmosphere, let's say yes, the ecosystem, that is , all commanders must clearly understand the requirements of the commander-in-chief, accordingly , after hearing, perhaps it is better not through some orders personally from him, i think that this will create a more effective work of lower-level commanders in the future, well, most importantly, you know, here... it is difficult to assess yet, but the main thing is to understand that he has not lost the helm, and having taken it, well, according to the will of the president, i

believe that stable management is now continuing and that the exit is organized, although of course with some of the problems of zavdeivka, and now, although it seems to many that some incomprehensible process is going on now, when the russians are pressing, and the ukrainian troops are withdrawing, in fact , a controlled process is going on, when the ukrainian troops are occupying really prepared... positions and they are now being prepared, that is, there on if you look at the map, you can roughly tell where the new front line will pass, because it is determined, among other things, by the geography of the area, you can’t just stand there in the field, even if you create some fortification lines of defense there, it is still better to use the characteristic the terrain, the peculiarities of the terrain, and precisely there to create more effective defensive lines, which are actually being formed now. well, i want you to comment on this tragic story of losses, and there is some information about the reasons, but again

people who have certain should comment here. information and understanding of the situation in general in the special operations forces of the armed forces of ukraine reported that soldiers of the 73rd naval special operations center died heroically during a combat mission in a clash with russian invaders. according to the publication of the military, it is about the battle on february 28 during the landing of groups in the occupied territories of the kherson region in the area of ​​tendrivska kosa. well, here, well, i ask you to comment from what you know, how are you see this story. because you know, there is just a lot of hate and hype and what should not be in such a situation, especially since the vast majority of these people definitely do not understand the work of the sso and what could have happened there, well , in fact, the main thing, strength special operations, i.e. operations of special operations forces, it is always beyond the limit, i would say, not even at the limit of risk, but beyond the limit of risk, that is, it is always operations behind the front line, these are always operations of great importance, that is, as a rule,

special forces... operations perform tasks from the implementation of specific influence, let's say so , or on the high-value targets of the enemy, or on the preparation of certain territories, creating conditions there for conducting or expanded operations of the ssso, or for the preparation of broader operations of other units of the armed forces of ukraine, that is why the landing was precisely to the territory occupied by the enemy, this is the functionality of the ssu. why did this situation happen when our group was detected and the fight started, this is already a real problem because the ssos have to work in such a way that they cannot be detected, now it is extremely difficult to do, it is a slightly different situation than even 20 or 30 years ago, because drones are constantly hanging in the air, which also work at night, technical means of intelligence, lighting

of the situation are constantly working very tightly and... therefore, holding such covert operations, they are always very complex, as our group was discovered, of course, these are all details that will never be revealed, this is actually part of the functionality of the special operations forces and the errors must also be sorted out within the structure, draw conclusions and, of course, learn these lessons so that this does not happen again, but in fact, operations from... special operations are always, well, very risky and can always face such situations , the most important thing is that conclusions are drawn eternal respect and memory heroes who gave their lives in this battle with the enemy. and the head of the main intelligence department, kyrylo budana, in an interview with cbs news, called the decision of president zelenskyi of ukraine and the supreme commander-in-chief to fire the main ex-commander-in-chief valery zaluzhnyi from the position of commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine. i quote: if everything is good and everything is wonderful, and everything

is done correctly, then... why did we find ourselves in the situation in which we found ourselves from that edition of budanov's words, and why do i ask this anyway, because i see even in the comments our viewers write, why is it bohdanov who is commenting on the tyrant, or why is it bohdanov who is commenting on zelenskyi's decision, and why is this so, and how do you explain his words? well, he was asked a question, he commented, here, here logically, he answered the question journalist, in fact, well, in principle, my hypothesis is quite similar, when... there was this active phase, let's say, of the replacement of commanders-in-chief, and when journalists asked me what i thought, i said that hypothetically, i can assume that when zelenskyi now assessed the situation for the 24th year and for the 25th year, and i emphasize, in my opinion, the 24th year is decisive from the point of view of the possibility of this chance for the armed forces of ukraine to turn the situation around, and general

zaluzhnyi in his essay to... cn when you remember he posted and said that to him it takes 5 months for the technological rearmament of the armed forces and plus certain resources, it is obvious that this could not suit president zelensky, and general syrsky could, for example, say that he can offer certain options for conducting operations, including with limited resources, which can change the situation at the front. well, general zaluzhnyi had his chance in the 23rd year, when he held. uh, a counteroffensive, now general syrskyi got a chance in the 24th year, in principle, i don’t see any problems here at all, we are talking about the intrinsic value of ukraine, that is, we are now talking about finding the most effective manager, the most effective options for the development of the situation so that we do not...