we now see that it is completely unrealistic to defend ourselves with these 800 tanks and 1,900 artillery pieces, it is ridiculous to say, well , the crimean peninsula should have been recognized as occupied by russia and it would have remained under the influence of moscow, well, somewhere there, putin and zelensky should have talked separately about the fate of the of the occupied donetsk and luhansk regions, such a treaty is also spoken of as something that ... well, we can talk even now, such an impression is created, and actually oleksiy has already said that i absolutely i agree that if such conditions had become known in april 22nd, it would have caused disturbances and probably even mass demonstrations, we all understand this very well, because we remember what happened when the minsk agreements were signed, in which there were no such restrictions, remember, they simply did not exist, nor did larisa. already said

that it is obvious that certain disturbances would cause the collapse of the front, but serhiy, from your point of view, are there really such, well, such opinions that have been made public there, that talks about the illegitimacy of zelensky can cause some disturbances , is this - at all, a real reason for causing some, some disturbances of the population and some demonstrations. mass against this background of what we heard now, well , first of all, i return to the previous topic, because it is fundamental, the shatun plan was not designed for any mass actions, to discredit the ukrainian authorities, the same as reported the same gur, you probably just assumed it, they say now that the maidan-3 plan is not aimed at mass actions, that is, it is not... which it was, but rather at discrediting with

the demand for early elections, i don’t i remember whether it was gur who said it or danilov, because it was the first time that danilov started voicing this topic, but it was like that. comrade, answering your question, olya, ah, i don’t know why there are questions now, yes, about this text of the negotiation, the one that was back in april of the 22nd year, mr. podolyak, in ukrainian truth, i have there is a link. i can, you know, i kept it to myself, and actually made it public, well, from my own words, but about limiting our number of our military, ah, and about, well, negotiations, yes, ah, on donbas, other, so to speak, theses in this document, i.e. nothing new here i did not see, and to be honest, i am sure that even then there would not have been a maidan and active resistance, because the population then was... well

, in a different direction, so to speak, yes, that is, then we had there was opposition mainly to the russian federation, ah, not even today, this publication of this text, well, in principle, it does not affect anything, i think, to be honest, well, again, nothing new, i read this material, nothing new at all, but i did not see there, the only thing i want to say is that i do not agree with the wol street journal journalists by the fact that... putin still wants it, i am absolutely sure that putin wanted it then, when he saw the resistance and when his plans to hold a victory parade in kyiv in three days failed, but then he was afraid that the war would not go his way plan, he agreed to such compromises, today he no longer agrees to such compromises, he wants much more, believe me, because today he believes that the initiative of the russians at the front, he believes that... the problem is with sanctions they decided,

he sees the support of many countries, yes, that brics, and china, and other countries, yes, where is iran, the dprk, where are they supplied with ammunition , that is, i am sure that today, if putin is going to talk about negotiations, then this text, it will be, well, simply, simply wonderful, yes , compared to what putin wants today, that's why... in this regard, i don't exactly agree with my colleagues from polstry, i wouldn't agree with serhiy, because we can't say whether he would agree or not , because we know that he did not agree, his appetites were much, much bigger then, so to speak the option that supposedly brought a ceasefire, by the way, remember, it was just a matter of a ceasefire along the active front line. brought from

istanbul and was stunned by the fact that putin said that he was doing what, what, that this is not acceptable for russia. it seems to me that we do not need to guess what putin wanted and what he wants. he both wanted and still wants one thing, the destruction of ukraine, as a general phenomenon that exists in the world, or the creation of something from ukraine that suited him, that is, another russia, so to speak, so it seems to me that in general, it is not necessary to get attached to this, but as for what i am counting on... the russians, if they really want to shake up the situation in ukraine, then it is really so, i would not say that i would not reduce everything to this paper, which doesn't really matter at all in the sense, it wasn't an agreement, it was a draft, as

the wall street journal itself writes, and basically, they're interested in having a conflict within the country, and the best way to... you say conflict, there are wrong steps on the part of the authorities, shaking, so to speak, widening of this gap between the government and society, and therefore, if the government does not want to allow this, then it should first of all take care of a reasonable policy of its own, which would correspond to the national interests, which would not cause disturbance in society, this is the best best antidote against any plan against. stuna against the third maidan, against the 95th maidan, in general any plan to destabilize the internal situation. well, as for me, you know, i partly agree with serhiy, partly not, well, partly because i also remember this publication, about which serhiy says, and there really was a lot

of what they wrote here now, it was there, maybe it wasn’t in numbers, but it was definitely absolutely there, then we already knew that it was about not joining nato and banning the use of western weapons, and well... in principle, and it was clear to anyone who read it at the time, banning the use of western weapons means leaving the country unarmed, so it was necessary to simply put a tre and say why ukraine remains unarmed, you just capture whoever wants it one thing, but i do not agree with the fact that shatun did not have then, when we are now we simply recall the events of the 15-16th years, that mass actions were not foreseen there, mass actions were foreseen there, moreover, if anyone remembers, mihomaidan was one part of... what was actually shown as a part of these mass actions, these were mass actions, it was an attempt to block the streets, it was an attempt to stand under the verkhovna rada, it was an attempt to set up some kind of tent city there, it is just possible that it has now

been slightly erased from memory in connection with that it did not achieve any results and was quite limited in its actions, but it was such an attempt, but here i am. to larisa , maybe a little on the other side of the question, now we see all these publications active in the old plans, and look, the publications of this plan, well, they were not started by the woll street journal , they were started by putin, he started talking about these plans, first in one interview, then in the second one, and then they hap, and suddenly the wall street journal suddenly appears, and it is not the first time that what putin says appears in some wall street journal, and somehow it reminds me. some strange movements, and yet what is the purpose of these publications, let me put it this way, what is the purpose of all these publications of all these plans? the fact is that in psychology there is a very good american study of the 50s, where they took a group

of people, they showed it to them there, that is , they told them about a situation, showed them a film, they wrote down for themselves what and how they saw, they were in favor. .. read the plot of the film, after that these people scared them that you are wrong, that they said, listen, everyone else thinks differently, that is, in principle, what was happening the experimenters, one person thought that she was in the group, all the others were, so they were like him, that is, also such studies, in fact, they were all bogus, and then it was discovered that in fact a person... is able to change his memories just before the eyes of the experimenter, if she is frightened by rejection, if she is frightened by something , that she will, for example, be kicked out of the group, that she will not be paid money, because she alone blocks the entire company, the entire team, and everything disrupts

the experiment and so on, i.e. under the influence of fear, under the influence of negative feelings, the person was simply rewriting before his eyes, not just agreeing, but... the equipment itself showed how these neural connections are being rewritten in him, he perceives as something that did not happen, he perceives it as a real event, so it reminds me.. . this is exactly it, because we are now being told what happened to us there in the 22nd year, they are telling us as some kind of revelation, although in fact we, i agree here with both mr. oleksiy and mr. sergey, we knew about these plans, because at that time, you remember, in istanbul on march 29, the current minister of defense umiraf came out, they all read these points, as a ukrainian proposal, moreover, it was said that ukraine insists. that it does not join nato, but there must be preliminary guarantees from the country,

there was an appeal to the united states and the signatories of the budapest memorandum there, then that ukraine will hold an all-ukrainian referendum on whether the ukrainians agree to these conditions, if everything is so, then well, well, there was some complex scheme, when it was obvious that ukraine would agree to whatever it was. it is impossible to carry out, but in parallel that the most interesting thing is, first of all, putin did not sign it, and here i agree with mr. sergey, he then told the african leaders there that we already have agreements, but putin did not sign any agreements. moreover, on the 29th , the last meeting was held in istanbul, after which the ukrainian delegation came out and read our proposals to russia. so, and these are exactly the proposals that we see here now. woll street journal, but at this moment, just a few days after march 29, when

the last meeting was held, on april 2, i will remind the ukrainian military entered bucha, and everything changed, moreover, russia, according to research and satellite observations, was killing and shooting the people of bucha, just at the very moment when negotiations were going on in istanbul. therefore, the fact that ukraine did not agree is the result of the horrors that we saw in the kyiv region, and moreover, we also all remember the press conference of volodymyr zelenskyi, which he gave to ukrainian journalists, when i think natalka snisarchuk asked him about the fact that after buchi it is possible to talk about something with putin, and he said, understand, i am the president, i have to lead the negotiations, we all remember this scene, that 's right. bucha already sounded as an argument for the impossibility of conducting any negotiations with

putin, and only after that the authorities said that there will be no negotiations, nothing will happen, the liberation of all territories. this wall street journal for some reason forgot to remind that this was not signed, that after buchi the situation changed, for some reason they explain that, well, somehow, we do not know, we will forget two years of war, we will forget everything we know about the russians and suddenly. let's go back to the conversation, well , i think that this is actually the point of view of the russians on this story, yes, even more, they show that putin agreed, but ukraine for some reason, but putin did not agree, this is a draft on his part, and there is no his signature. actually, yes, and now i think it's also an attempt to throw in the same thing as an attempt to, you know, let's talk about something again. thanks to my wonderful colleagues oleksiy mustafin, larisa voloshina, serhiy. i will remind you about our survey, let's see how the votes were cast our viewers, therefore, should

people's deputies be restricted from working trips abroad during the war, and what do we see there, 70, i don't see, 76% said no, respectively, 24% said yes, well, in principle, well such and such and such an answer, it is obvious. honey , i hope to meet you next week serhiy rudenko, i was very happy to see you, i wish everyone a good night and actually a good weekend, goodbye, good evening, we are from ukraine, greetings, dear tv viewers! my name is vasyl zema, this is a big broadcast on the espresso tv channel and for the next hour and 47 minutes i and my

colleagues will talk with you about the most important things, today the military results of the week, today the economic results of the week and also many events took place in washington, where we expect a decision on providing security assistance to ukraine , so there is a lot to talk about, let's start by recalling one historical event that is not so... it is silenced, it is simply considered by many to be on the periphery of some events that are worth talking about, it it is painful, it is tragic, and it affects individual peoples or the power of individual peoples, which even today... continues to play against ukraine. on march 1-2, 1943, units of the hungarian military gendarmerie carried out a mass murder of approximately 6,700 residents of the village of koryukivka, now a city in the chernihiv region. the scale of the tragedy is exceptional, among the population centers of ukraine, the ussr and europe, kuryukiv murders in terms of the number of victims are almost 45 times higher than those of belarusian huts. in

41 times czech lidece, in 18 - french ogaduch. the killing of civilians was a punitive operation by hungarian and german units in response to the actions of soviet partisans led by the nkvd officer of the ussr oleksiy fedorov. the fact that fyodorov's partisan group outnumbered the karatarians in terms of the number of soldiers by almost 10 times adds to the tragedy of this event. but, but the partisans did nothing to save the residents of koryukivka. from what i read, they were just watching it from the woods. and then the hungarians left. the residents came back and they came back and finished off those residents while the guerrillas watched. let's we will remember, and we will urge today, at least, the hungarian authorities not to repeat the mistakes of their predecessors during the second world war, during the horthy dictatorship. espresso calls to join the collection on baguio for the evacuation of the wounded and the transport of combat kits, as well as for the car and

recovery rebs for the 12th separate detachment of special forces. our defenders destroy the enemy in the east every day. direction, this collection will help save lives and increase the effectiveness of the unit, so join in, every donation strengthens the shield with which we deter the aggressor, our army, and the sword is sharpening , with which it cuts down this aggressor, our goal is 480 00 hryvnias, you are quite actively collecting, and in general you are very great guys, but lately it is just great, let's not lose pace, because now the key events at the front, and now, more than ever, we need our help, it's just... needed and that's all. danylo miro, he is a deputy of the dnipro city council. mr. danilo, i congratulate you. good evening. glad to see and hear. we, the enemy was in dnipropetrovsk region today. the information is literal not long ago, it was reported that an kh-59 missile had been shot down in the kryvorizka district, the regional military administration reports. before that, there were also

strikes on nikopol. also, let's start with this, the security situation, the consequences of enemy attacks. and explain why the enemy is clinging to dnipropetrovsk oblast, we are just watching, well, it is really some kind of mania, especially the crooked corner, well, it is not at all clear, there is artillery, but these rockets are constantly flying and flying and flying, is it because it is closer or as, please, vasyl, well, you probably know, i may not be completely objective, but i consider dnipropetrovsk region to be the most powerful region, after all, you know, and probably the most desirable for the enemy. but because of this it is the most powerful, because there are such powerful communities as kryviyrig, and marganetska , and nikopolska, and dnipro, pavlograd, novomoskovsk, now samar in a new way, there are many such cities that you know and that i know , they know all over the country, probably because they know, well, in addition to the fact that we are also a special front-line zone, as well as

such attractive regions for our terrorist, the enemy. so of course they were as in principle the already long-suffering nikapel region is constantly subjected to artillery shelling day and night , the marganets community also suffered, in the kryvoorsk district today a bloody rocket was shot down, which they launch, you know, it seems that some such wishers, one rocket was launched, are being checked by ours. .. of our air defense , because we can say, we hold on and work every day so that this does not happen, but they calculated that in four months the enemy released over dnipropetrovsk region, well, i understand that we are not talking about fpv drones or about some there, and 160 large drones, that's 160 , that's for, well, now i'm not talking about missiles, we

hear almost every day about ballistics in the direction of kryvorizhye, dnipropetrovsk region, about cruise missiles, but that's all. 160 drones, today again there were about four drones shot down, that is, how is this, well, how much it exhausts people morally, how much it exhausts the region economically, because it’s all money, that is, shoot down, rebuild, clean up somewhere, give people some help, someone put up windows, treat someone, pay out, god forbid something for the dead, well, all this is exhausting, of course, and we understand that now the metallurgical and other industrial giants are not working at full capacity, if they are working at all. well, i am leading to the fact that the income to the budget, yes, of course, i will tell you that , moreover, here, in principle, we can be proud that our region, our region, our city is restoring a lot and... and is constantly restoring and restores almost from one o'clock, if, god forbid, some kind of flight arrives somewhere or the windows fly out, then the local and regional authorities and the military are immediately involved

administration, at least you are right, today very, very many powerful enterprises have stopped, which, of course, filled the budget, but we are working full city, full city of people, and a lot, i will tell you that people, what... today dnipro oblast receives the largest number of forcibly resettled persons, because there are a lot of people who came to us from bakhmut, from avdiyivka, from the southern regions, very, very many along the dnipro, now you meet them almost in schools, sports competitions, on the street, in yards, in there are many, many neighbors people who came from other regions to the dnipro, but do you know what , the payments for... internally displaced persons have been reviewed and people may be left without payments from march 1, i know that the un is now renewing certain payments there, but this there is a separate story, but what about people then, maybe, well, i understand that

many could find a job during that time, maybe someone had a job, that company is no longer there or something else happened, will the communities work, the government, first of all, with these people, if they turn to them, they will say that you know, well, we had some there funds at least for bread, for some water, but now there is nothing at all, we don't have any. work, for example, but we cannot return, for example, to donetsk region somewhere or to kherson region, because there or zaporizhzhia, because there is occupation and everything, i am sure, in principle, i will not speak for the whole country, but what will be in dnipro, we as the 12th deputies corps will consider such opportunities in order to support such people in the future, and in principle we must always support them, because people are people who came from the occupied territory, people who do not have housing today. who lost everything from the attacks of terrorists, well , we should probably always support and help them throughout the country, because of that we are ukrainians, and because of that we should be united,

and in such cases, i think, well, as a deputy , i will definitely initiate so that we can support such people, well, by the way, i am here from the positive side, we already have to say goodbye, but for example, there will be a job fair in kryvyi rih, i read today and i think, well, if there is a job fair, there are obviously some prospects. let it be possible not super highly paid jobs, but if there are such fairs, then life goes on, there is hope. thank you very much, mr. danylo, danylo miro, a member of the dnipro city council was in touch with us. and again, all this hope is thanks to our soldiers, well, we have to understand that, it's incredibly difficult right now, especially in certain areas of the front, you see these e-links to , well, a qr code on the screen, please join, i myself every day i try somewhere somewhere. somehow throw, of course, that you will not give all the money, but, but now, now you have to persevere, and you know, some kind of drone that we will hand over, or there are buggies that we are collecting on now, it will save

lives, it's not just a buggie that will be, i was driving today, by the way, in a taxi, and the guy who takes me is a military man , he is on vacation and 15 days in lviv, he is just taxiing, he is sad to sit at home, i told him that we are collecting for buggies, he really perked up, he says, it is so cool, it is so cool, he is so maneuverable, he one is needed, because it will save my son or his husband... and this and that are very important, by the way, i also gave the soldier 100 hryvnias for coffee, i am very appreciate, i am sure that you also appreciate our soldiers, and who is on leave, and who is at the front now, and we have to do it and help, i will not get tired of talking about it, this is our area of ​​work, for today, thank god , that's what we have, and let's close this part of the work in full, thank you very much once again that despite all the difficulties you... support our efforts and help our soldiers, and now we will move on to the conversation about the kherson region. oksana pogomiy, a member of the kherson city council, will be in touch with us. two years

in fact, today, as kherson oblast started its war. of course, the enemy invaded there in february, and on february 24, he immediately overcame a certain part of the kherson region and reached antonivsi. bridge, there were difficult battles, in fact, the armed forces of ukraine had their problems with air support, there were difficulties, but in fact there were heroic battles, ukrainian tankers, for example, were able to repulse the enemy from the antonivsky bridge, they gave our soldiers the opportunity to cross this antonivskyi bridge , to save our personnel and equipment, and a long battle began. ms. oksana, i congratulate you, congratulations, a long battle has begun, two years ago, i would like you to tell me a little. about the battle for the kherson region, because you know, somewhere there was only betrayal, somewhere everything was surrendered, but in fact i know, because i wrote a book on this topic, i studied a lot of those materials, talked to people, i know that our battles were fought with what could also...

only the military, but also the local residents , please, i can speak for the military, and i can even speak about, i saw footage of the bus park and the lyceum, these were not local residents, they were tro soldiers, just they are not they want to admit that they defended our country as soldiers, they don't want to admit exactly the command of the military unit, but today i heard such... good news that after all, maybe we will get our way, because we personally hired lawyers and are suing with the military unit, thank god , the regional military-civilian administration joined in, which for its part began to push the military units, i don't know what the matter is with the military unit, but the fact is that the people were defending, there were 94 of them, this particular battalion 194

battalion of our bilozersk military police , which split in half, i just know for sure, i talked to everyone who was in that battle, they split in half, 47 people went to the bus park and 47 people left, the location is nearby, it is not far from the shumin lyceum, and they were waiting there , and there are witnesses who saw that armored personnel carrier parked there, where there was a bus park, and there were snipers, and there we were at the lyceum, and there were also russian snipers, and... people were waiting, they knew that he would come there our tro, these were, they were summoned by the command, she said who will go as a volunteer, and they went as volunteers, at one of the locations he fought, the location was headed by a location, the wrong word, but i don’t know how to choose, where there is a lyceum, the cossack konstantin was in charge there, thank god he is alive, his son fought at the buska park. he

knocked out an armored personnel carrier, that's the only thing that ours managed to do, there were 19 dead in all , they were tortured later, three guys, they are considered missing, there were two military military personnel, the fifth company, others, they took the battle on a steam locomotive , they survived, they returned home, they were summoned at the end march we don't know who, because the women don't know, they said, they went to meet one of their own and they were taken away, russians, they came later with lapin and mironinka, they came home with the boys, these two people were tortured, one was tortured by us here in kherson and found in the middle of the month from giria on his feet, it was impossible that he was

drowned in... in the river, the second was taken to simferopol and already returned after the exchange of hostages just a body. and these are all the things that happened in kherson on march 1, you know, we were under occupation, we were cut off from the big land, and tanks, armored personnel carriers , and all their equipment rushed past us. when we were watching footage from the lilac park , separ was filming there, i even forgot his last name, a journalist, chelestenko, he was filming, he was allowed to film it, and we understood that there were those who were everything, who still left and i was not afraid, and as of now, it is very

difficult... to show that there is no way they can establish justice and give the families the opportunity to be reburied as soldiers under because i'm sorry, i'll clarify justice only in the fact that they were buried as soldiers, because i know that there was a problem in that they could not figure out who sent them, because then everyone began to remove this responsibility from themselves, and well, as a matter of fact , it seems that there is still a lilac grove, then the lyceum , there were still people at the factory there, i forgot what his name was, and they also managed to get out of there, but the problem is that, first of all, it seems that we did not send now go find find the extreme ones and secondly if they didn't send if they went themselves allegedly well now who are they, and are they the heroes, they were not sent, they were sent, we have evidence and these evidences are notarized and we are now suing, we have already sued

five of the dead. came, but eh