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, we continue to donate, we need to collect funds for fpvi drones in luhansk region, and we, in the meantime , for you, are now learning the latest information from odessa, in particular, where traus has been announced, the head of the united coordination of the press center of the defense forces of southern ukraine, colonel natalya humanyuk, ms. natalya, congratulations, glory to ukraine , glory to the heroes, i congratulate you, ms. natalya, please tell me this night and morning attack by drones from... right here, actually on the edge odessa, a densely populated area, they aimed somewhere and missed, or was this a deliberate hit in a residential building? well, what they have with consciousness, it is difficult to predict, and whether they have it at all, we are not observing such maneuvers by strike drones for the first time, in particular , complex maneuvering over odessa, over residential areas, over industrial areas. with

the reconnaissance of air defense systems, obviously, with the search for relevant objects that presumably serve their purposes, and with the consequences of such work, hostile to residential objects, in particular the sector, of this once the air defense forces worked very hard, attack tactics. was focused on attacking abundantly from different directions in a very short period of time, although the drones came mainly from the black sea area, then changed their routes and tried to surround odesa and its suburbs from different sides, maneuvering among different areas, terrain and objects. one of these drones. flew right into the sleeping area,

in fact, where there are many high-rise buildings, apartment buildings, and this hit happened. mrs. natalya, we know that the rescue operation is still ongoing, we know that, unfortunately, four people have already died, and that there are most likely also people who do not make contact, they may be under the rubble, a little more, can you or can you still tell us, let us know what the situation is there now, and in general, is this building, part of which has collapsed, is it suitable for other people, residents of other entrances, to stay in it? currently, experts are conducting an assessment, working to determine whether it is really safe to be there, people are allowed very cautiously into the neighboring entrances, even in order to be able to...

things and for now they are given the opportunity to spend time in other places without entering their own hotels, because indeed the expert evaluation is not completed and there is a threat that , that the house, well, it is enough, let's say, is already worn out, simply by time, and such a blow that fell on it could seriously damage the main fortifications. some overlaps that can affect the viability of other entrances. as for the search and rescue operation, this is how the headquarters collects information about the number of people who may be under the rubble, who do not get in touch, this data is constantly updated, clarified, from time to time the rescuers announce a moment of silence in order to understand whether or not... they will hear voices,

who are begging for help, have already seen that five people were rescued from the rubble, four of whom were hospitalized. to the hospital, other victims, four more victims, are being treated on an outpatient basis, unfortunately, indeed four people have already been confirmed dead, including one child, among the victims there are also a minor child. mrs. natalya, regarding crimea, we know that gvardiyske, belbek, there is an airfield, it was a little noisy, is there any information about what happened there? at the time of these high-profile events and what could be affected? it is still too early to make any conclusions, we will give the opportunity to bloom as much as these beds were calculated, and then we will already harvest. why do you think they

have become so careful now and go out to sea less often, we do not complain at all that they keep their missile carriers somewhere there... further and in the same new russian, but people actually got used to the fact that you always have to be careful, there is always that anxiety both internal and real, now they have calmed down, are they afraid or have nothing, what are the reasons? to go on combat duty , they have something, and there are about ten missiles equipped and ready for use, taking into account... the fact that already this year and at the end of last year, missile carriers were used, including in combat work, that is, part of the missiles were fired , but potential renewal did not occur, since it involves arriving in

the sevastopol bays to the relevant infrastructure facilities, where it is possible to service missile installations and load missiles, the enemy now has access there. in fact there is not , that is, it is not blocked completely, but they do not take risks, and the fact that they are mainly in the base points, others more south-eastern, this speaks of ensuring the safety of the ship-boat crew, they decided that this distance is safer for them , remembering the reason of caesar konikov, no they risk going in the direction... of the crimea, because, let me remind you, caesar kunikov was struck by this very thing. mrs. natalya, another such very sensitive topic, for the first time we were informed so quickly about the death of special forces of the 71st marine detachment, 73rd, marine

detachment of special operations forces on the tendrivska spit. and now, in principle, who should give the next answer, because since it has already been announced to us, there should be an investigation. how our special forces were already waiting at this jetty, because here we are dealing with a one hundred percent leak of information. well, it will be here to decide the investigation, of course, all actions related to the actions of the military are investigated by the dbs, which specific body is involved in the investigation, i am not ready to say, i think that if you contact the spokesman of the special operations forces, they are procom. uhu, well, yes , there were a lot of assessments from former special forces from the ssso, well, we are also waiting, the left bank, yes , cry, cry, because it is of interest to everyone, we understand that they are constantly trying to attack there, according to us, it is very

difficult there, because it is necessary hold positions, we understand that the plan is to move on, which is now the situation there, during the past day, the enemy never once dared to go out. to go on assaults, it is obvious that they have a significant problem, a communication problem, in order to persuade people, motivate them, to go on assaults, we have already noted this, they have disputes both within internal units, and between different units, when they organize joint, joint work, because they attack like pra... in several groups of 10-15 people from different directions in order to make it as difficult as possible for our unit to repel these assaults, but still refrain from using armored vehicles , and this is the main stumbling block, because

assaults without the support of armored vehicles are actually doom, but the command obviously calculates that since our units do not have armored vehicles there, it is not worth wasting theirs, so the question arises of this such long-term long-term work that they... for a long time cannot plan and execute as the book says, military, military tactics. nevertheless, our divisions manage to hold positions, work on the expansion of the klasdarny, and we we understand that the occupiers are now putting a lot of effort into organizing the elections, because we can actually see that units of the security forces have arrived there, but the security forces are inside. targeted, these are the national guard, the police, and other units that are more focused on

organizing the election process and ensuring the security of election sites. ms. natalya, and one more short question, are they considering the possibility that, if something were to happen, our armed forces would withdraw from the boxes, i am drawing a parallel to the situation with avdiivka now, because we understand that then continued tension for a certain time, they will withdraw, withdraw, will not withdraw, what options are being considered now, why are we asking this , because there are some changes on the map in deeppstate, and it can be seen that in fact our bridgehead is already covered, that is, behind our defenders of plavna and dnipro? well, first of all, really, you have to trust reliable sources, according to our information, it does not always get confused with hipstate maps, that. true, and even in different positions of the front lines, in addition, we are talking about the fact that the flexibility

of this line is really very variable, and such events often occur in real time, and they may be transmitted to the public space with some delay, this is caused in principle by the security of operations, and you correctly noted that the departure from the positions. in principle, as one of the options , it is always considered by the command, because the priority is to save the lives of soldiers, save the lives of people, but we will not tell our plans and even all the options we have for the development of these events, we will work and try to implement the most optimists in life, thank you ms. natalya, and for optimism and for being with us, natalie. khomenyuk, the head of the united coordination press center of the defense forces of southern ukraine, colonel, was on our

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two hours to learn about the war and what the world is like, two hours to be... up to date with economic news and sports news, two hours in the company of favorite presenters, presenters who have become likeable to many, as well as distinguished guests of the studio, events of the day in two hours, vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for smart and caring people, in the evening at espresso. and we are returning with us the director of the institute of strategic studies and security, founder of the eastern human rights group, pavlo olesyanskyi. mr. pavle, we congratulate you. congratulations, mr. pavle, we just reread yours article analysis of life under occupation, 10 years of russian destruction of the population and territory, and you know very well what it was like for the population of this region, all that was done underground, that is, mining dynasties, city-forming

enterprises, and in this regard, except for the occupation, about which... we will ask you separately, but for people who found themselves in a situation where the industry does not work, some of the mines are simply flooded, destroyed, that is , to lose this thing, which is called, well, lifestyle, and, that is, their order life, which has such consequences for these people, is somehow theirs changed in views, in mentality, and in general, i learned. that you have insiders from those territories, how in general all this affected the population of the region, look, well, people, well, let's start with the fact that the people, of course, even i wrote articles that even those who supported in 2014 , let's say so , figures who led people

in support of the russian world, and... they are now already saying, well, frankly, that we understand that we were deceived, we did not understand what, what will happen, and they are now saying that there was a fairy tale about ukraine, and that it will never be like that again, because, well, i gave the numbers, the average salary in the mines there was 1,200 dollars, it was for an ordinary worker in the mines there, well , approximately somewhere... 100 mines, 1.5-2 people work in each mine, there were enterprises in addition to the mines , which, let's say, serviced repair plants there, training plants there , well, that is, it was a whole empire like that, and let's see, and in donbas geologically by

geological science, it even spread over the luhansk-donetsk region and... rostov of the russian federation, that is, in the rostov region, the same mines were deep, which the russians, after the collapse of the ussr, closed it back in 1991, and ukraine kept it, yes, this is already an indicator, and we kept these mines until 2014, then after the occupation they began to destroy it all, why am i saying this, until that we had a mining company in donbas. tives, parents sent their children to study at mining universities, i know this very well, because my first education, a mining engineer, i myself studied with such children, and i myself, yes, that is, my great-grandfather, grandfather, father, all worked for mine and i have eight years of underground experience, people planned their lives based on what happened in

ukraine and what was developing in the luhansk donetsk region. for them it was more , it was a story, it was the story of their parents, the russians took it all away, in the article i quote a local who says that when it was miner's day, we had a real holiday, and you really need to understand what was miner's day in luhansk donetsk region, it is such a holiday, it is in every place, a small place, where there are mines, there is anthracite, rovenki, pop artists came to shakhtarsk, people came out, there were masses there were celebrations, there were fireworks, it was... well, it was like a new year for them, you know, symbolic, and now they say, now we go en masse, well, to this holiday for mr. pavle,

there was even such a period, when, when donetsk had a higher standard of living than kyiv, i remember these official data, mr. pavle, but even in soviet times it was like that, they lived better there, and now they say that we holiday, we now celebrate it in cemeteries, because there are no... mines, there are no miners, because those miners who remained in the occupied territories, their occupiers drove them to death for forced mobilization in 2022, well, we can also see from your data that the population in these territories has decreased drastically, accordingly the question after deoccupation is in what condition donetsk and luhansk regions will return home , i am not only talking about the condition that the mines are closed, but also... the mental and moral condition of the people, how will it be possible to work with the reintegration of the entire region, whether in 10 years they have been completely converted to russian people, whether

it will be possible to work at all, or it will be necessary, like us we are talking about the kokhov reservoir, there is a question of whether to return it or not, the same is the case here with the region, whether to do something new in these territories, or to return what belonged to the russians, this is an extremely difficult question, for today, well. .. let's say, in 2023 , the outflow of people from the occupied territories amounted to 20-30 thousand people every month. now this flow, it has not yet, shall we say, not completely stopped, that is, people are fleeing from the occupied territories. when we get back there, there's going to be a lot of trouble starting over with poisoned mine water, with the fact that russians will gradually settle there instead of our people. by other residents of the russian federation, yes, whom they bring to the occupied territories, and accordingly, you say

that the people there were interrogated, you know, yes, they tried to interrogate the people, but i want to tell you that it has been two years of a full-scale invasion, total control of the occupier, a whole bunch of occupation authorities, and the kremlin cannot passport the entire number of people in the occupied territories, because... people do not take a russian passport, whatever they say there, they don't take it, and accordingly there are still enough pro-ukrainian people left there, and whether people go to the elections or not, it's a game of pseudo-elections there, we see it differently in different regions, in kherson people simply ignore it, they don't leave the house, well, so that they just don't even approach them on the streets, they go to the store alone for each other, so that they just don't get caught, in the kherson region, here, after all, they spent 10 years.

the so-called early voting, this is when they go to them, that's why people are here en masse, well, they don't go out, they try to change their place residence, the occupiers are fooled there, that is , of course there are cells there that try to create that they are leaving. i tell you, well , i want to tell you in general that we perfectly monitored the process of these pseudo-elections, even last year in september, now, if people had volunteered en masse to go to the pseudo-elections, then the occupiers would not have made the period of more than three weeks of voting in the pseudo-elections, well why did they make it three weeks, well, because people don't want to go, and they needed time for the occupying authorities to drive people to these... polling stations, that's why they made it three weeks, last year in september it was 11 days, they didn't even have time for 11 days, now they did three weeks and then three

more days when they go to vote in the occupation administration, so my summary is clear that most people in the occupied territories does not want to take part in this election farce, that's why the occupiers did these three weeks, and in general, why do they want people to go to the elections, they are numbers? surnames, everything that is needed, they can draw as they want, when they want, for the picture they they can always drive several busloads of people , shoot them, drive them around on carousels, that is, why, why should real people from these territories spend a lot of effort, and it is not known whether they will get what they want, well, look, here you need to combine what they need to create.. ... a picture for propaganda, and propaganda must relay this picture to other regions of the russian federation, this is such

a legitimization. actions of the dictatorial regime, they must show that look, you are dying there in yakutia because we occupied these territories, in these territories people massively support us, so we need even more, even further, and therefore give us children, as the dictator putin said, the main task is to give birth to children, a big family in the russian federation, this can be translated in another way , you have to... give birth so that we can continue to conduct military aggression, well, the zhukov thing, the russians and the woman who are attacking it, this is the zhukov approach to military meat, that is, zhukov is flourishing, stalinism is flourishing, and if we go back one more time to your article, just me about sentiments, how much, how many people have been irreversibly infected by this propaganda, why are we asking, because...

we are watching and how they promote these people from avdiiv, who used to follow a humanitarian woman, and then became prostitutes and now appear in all commercials , how many of them from avdiivka are now shown on all the tvs, how many of them are now in these territories, are they already different, because after all , avdiivka is new, and these lands have been occupied under occupation for 10 years, eh, look, they are liquidating now . of these collaborators, those who supported them in 2014, in general , the locals tell me that the attitude of the russian occupiers towards them is the same as that of cryptobanders, but they have such an expression that they say to them, you are all traitors to us, and those who support ukraine, and those , who do not support ukraine, because you, you betrayed ukraine, and accordingly they...

behave in such a way that, well, now they have such a function, they deport people from the occupied territories, through the sheremetyevo checkpoint, if you have not issued passport of a citizen of the russian federation, left, then you didn't if you come in, you will simply be banned for 5 years, so i know about a dozen cases when people were deported, when they showed that we have a passport of the lpr or the dpr, that's it. says: we registered lpr and dpr in our passports, they say, no, there is no russian, we were deported and banned from entering for 5 years, and before that, and before that, well, after that they took away all their property, so well such a policy of the occupier, it certainly does not provoke the local people to support them, and the local people to them, the local people to them, there with their vision or even with something, they just don't need them, they are even now local municipalities, where

there are local... deputies, well, for example, the city of kirovskoe, where the komsamoli mine is from donbas, yes, they liquidated the municipality there and took it to another region there, to shakhtarska , now in this place there is no local chairman and so on, there are no deputies there, there is no such local elite, but on the other hand there is the police of the occupiers, there is the russian guard and so on, which are headed exclusively by citizens of the russian federation, you understand, that is, they they are simple. it's almost news time but actually what you described and told us is the classic tradition of russian chekists, first we do something, then we kill our own, then the next ones come, and so beria after beria, givi for mataroli. mr. pavle, thank you for participating in the program, pavlo lysyanskyi, the director of the institute of strategic studies and security and the founder of the eastern rights group was with us, you mentioned the givi, and they are creating a pantheon there, and here is one of

the precincts, which they named after the occupied mykhailo tolstykh, that is, it is the same givi, they are trying in some way to raise their status a little, i don't know, even if it is possible. it's news time, olyana panatsyuk is already waiting to talk about the most important thing at the moment. ulyana, congratulations, you have a word. greetings, colleagues, thank you for your work. i will tell you that a powerful explosion thundered in russia and from the occupied crimea, by the way, news is also coming. all this has been collected for you, i will tell you in a moment. it's 3 p.m. in ukraine, ulyana panasiuk is working in the studio, news on espresso, congratulations. during the day , 53 battles took place in the tavri direction.

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