opposition is when the opposition is part of the government and it only offers an alternative way, well, here in russia it is completely different, putin does not listen, and neither does his entourage, does not listen to subordinates, does not hear the population, it thinks that it is doing for the population great good, and the fact that the population grumbles does not interest him. on the other hand, navalny's entourage and this opposition, and such, well... isolated attempts to somehow frond, frond, or demonstrate some disagreement with the actions of the authorities, the government of the hour leaks out, let's remember the signatures are overworked, and now these funerals, well, this is some kind of very strange event, because already in the morning there was information that the ritual campaign, which hired an attendant... here is this event, managed to find

a shorter coffin for the coffin, shorter for navalny, and there is something with costume, that is, it all grew over with a permanent, well, absolutely petty, angry kind of moss, and created, well, some absolutely unbearable situation, that is, people came. people said goodbye, but this did not in any way harm the government, well, actually, because, well, that's how his supporters gathered, they threw flowers there, well, when they were taking this coffin from the church to the cemetery, the fact that this church is somewhere on the outskirts, i'm not saying that, it 's called the one that soothes sadness. well, here

, here, it would be necessary to remind, because in fact , the way navalny's image is promoted and inflated in the media, it has always been inflated, it has always been exaggerated. let's recall the story when navalny returned to russia after being poisoned. many expected that 1050 would meet him at the airport. there was no mass. and it became clear that the government can wipe off what was menacingly called the... greater opposition force in the russian federation, just wipe the feet and that's it, well, but when they came to lay flowers, well, when he just died, people went there to see someone there, well such, it can't even be called memorials, because they were looking for some that were not even related to the mass, it is not at all known with what there, they laid flowers, but even during the laying of these flowers they were arrested, and now

the us ambassadors came to say farewell there, germany, france, well, boris nadezhdin, who is positioned there as an anti-war candidate, but in principle , well, judging by everything, he is such a candidate sufficiently embedded in the elite, although anti-war, but on the other hand, practically no one came from russian famous public figures, well , again, they were quite quiet, there were no such ones there i don't know some mutinies, fights and something. such, and here i am wondering what conclusion the russian government might have drawn from these, from this burial, and even from the point of view of what the russian government is now, well there public politicians, or there, as, whatever you call them, there are some in general, this circle, which is there in one way or another, well , all the years of putinism, the authorities worked to ensure that russian society was. and in the end, we

do not observe any civil society. the last, well, such sprouts of civil society were dismantled after the swamp, some left the territory of russia, some went into business, some were demoralized, plus, well, because of the military mobilization, part of this was cut off. well, the electorate of the protesting, fringe electorate, because there was only a threat of mobilization, right away, eyes, self-employed, itishniks, that is, a potential such specific environment from which the opposition could feed itself, it left russia, let's remember the anti-war rallies of the 14th year, how many people went to protests, the maximum in moscow. about 50,000, this, this is probably all

that the opposition could collect, because the opposition was not perceived as, well... a structure or an environment that could really gain power, but they only started to demonstrate, i remember, there were such calls during the elections to enlighten with a flashlight in the yards or there, well, this is , by the way, the anti-corruption fund, navalny was involved in this, plus navalny himself was always confused, so to speak, in the testimony, because he went to nazi rallies and russian marches. the so-called, on which i want to remind rogozin, also marched, then he, not sandwiches to crimea, not a sandwich, now, well, prison and his, well, this, one might say, war, post-war declaration

that ukraine needs to return everything and pay reparations, she too, well, it was perceived as an intellectual such, well... uh, an intellectual exchange of ideas, and nothing more, that is, this, this, nothing by russian society, all of this, which navalny did, was not perceived as a real struggle for power, as a power grab, that is, as political journalism and nothing more, well, but still his, well, you can say murder, because when a person is first poisoned, then she is constantly sitting in a cell in... prison, so this is a murder as a result, no, he lost his health as a result of double poisoning, well, yes, yes, i say that it cannot be called that a person just died and died, no, it's great, absolutely a person was brought to death, but as much as he could

to live, no one knew, plus the mockery of the prison that was set up for him, it was a silent murder, everyone perfectly understood that prison is a one-way street, well, symbolic... for the russian authorities, this is a symbolically important thing, they just put everyone in a stall and that was it, and it is very noticeable, that is what we actually saw, by the way, by the way, we are now watching a very interesting story, which, in my opinion , belarus was the first to go through, because we watched, well, the legitimization of svitlana tsykhanouskaya on in the west, and now the wife of yuliya navalny, she essentially follows the same path that... svitlana tykhanovskaya, that is, we see, yulia navalna met with biden, yulia navalna spoke in the european parliament, that is, in fact, due to such a tragic, well, event, suddenly yulia navalna became, in fact, well the informal

president of another russia, western politicians communicate with her, and those who in the west are thinking of investing somehow. the development of civil society in russia, er, and to talk to some part of the russian community that lives in the worlds, scattered, well, they probably chose her as the main communicator from this part of her united russia, well, well, and no more, well, you know, i personally treat such a transfer of leadership through sexual means with such a certain skepticism, because... when it comes down to it like this from a husband to a wife and vice versa, then well there, it means that there are no other leaders who were popular, well, this, well , for example, the same mark fegin, who invented the election, well, to create some

legitimate figure who would talk to western leaders on behalf of another russia , well, in fact, now this idea is running out, maybe it will continue. but in fact, due to the circumstances, this tragic event made yulia navalna the only communicator, who will say that she will be an effective communicator, time will tell, so far we cannot say anything about it, if it is the same stereotype and, well, the line of behavior, like svitlana tykhanovskaya, well, this is probably such a weak leadership, which just fills no. but does not create any real proposal, well , let's discuss one more interesting thing: this is the american ex-host of fox news, tucker carlson, who which interview with putin has been discussed for a month, and

almost a month has passed, and he suddenly made such a statement that the russian dictator's talk about de-zenzification was the dumbest thing he ever... this is one of the dumbest things, that i have ever heard. i didn't understand what he meant. what else is denazification? i hate this whole conversation because it's not real. this is just a change in personality. it's a way of associating someone with an evil regime that no longer exists. i'm just saying that there is no such thing in 2024 the nazi movement. this is a way people call something evil. ok. putin does not like nationalists. ukrainians , putin hates nationalism, which is interesting in general, of course he hates it, he has 80

or so republics, and he is afraid of nationalist hands, because of this he unleashed a war in chechnya, but to call ukrainians nazis, i think it is childish . well, such a statement, and very funny, putin, who hates a nationalist, nationalism, who is a russian chauvinist, and the same nationalist, what about such a statement shows that this person , i mean tucker kartson, was silent for a month, then suddenly got out and started telling something like that, well, according to karson, it's very simple, it was clear that he was so prepared for this interview, and he was so blinded and intimidated him, it was visible on his face when he... celebrated his stand-up act when leaving the krebel and they quickly got to the airport and flew away,

it was clear that he got quite a scare in moscow, that is, he was not even waiting with any animal he will have to communicate with the environment, we see that he is sure i received a list of taboos that you can't ask putin, and he didn't ask them, so... it was obvious when they say that the taxon made his millions from this interview, no it is excluded that it was a slightly different income, and income for 200 million views, plus, well , getting into such and such media trends, but the fact that after only a month he began to speak like an american, but... like a waiter putinsky, that is a person from a free society, this

shows that he is afraid of moscow just at some point he became demoralized, and i just don't remember that after this interview with putin he gave another interview, that is, it obviously exhausted him, twisted him and, well, morally crushed him, that he could not come to himself, here he is... it seems to me that he has just now begun to collect himself piece by piece and finally try to feel who he is, whether he is a journalist or a showman, what is his new mission, because at a certain point, well , i think that he fulfilled for trump , a certain service is important, with this trip to moscow, and now, when everyone is burdened, both in front of trump and in front of some other environments. he dropped it, so to speak, that is , it no longer burdens him, he decided to talk a little, well

, you know, i don't have such an optimistic view of this situation, because it seems to me that he actually fulfilled all the obligations that he was going there, that is, he advertised this interview as much as possible , already knowing what was said to him in it, he promoted it as much as possible, and i relate his reaction, these words of his, first of all simply. with a negative reaction to the interview, which took place after he was shown, he saw that even in his group he did not fall into the expectations, but it is interesting, wait, wait, volodymyr, it is interesting about the expectations, he actually no longer acts as a journalist, as a politician, so that we all know that there are talks, maybe trump will offer him the vice presidency or some other position, and i think he is aiming for it, but the expectations of trumpists are interesting, and from the point of view of these expectations... probably he i didn't really hear anything from putin that he would influence, well, fit into these

expectations, because forgive me, but these expectations are completely anti-ukrainian, they sound like if there is a strong country, it can conquer neighboring, less weak ones, let's just listen to one of the trumpists, i think these are the same beliefs that i tried to broadcast in this interview with tucker carson, by the way, let's take a look. i think it's funny for people to think that putin is such an enemy, he doesn't do anything, he just wants to take back what was his. he invaded ukraine, killing thousands of people, and i'm fine with that. nothing changed in his beliefs, he didn't come out and say that the very idea

of ​​behaving like hitler and attacking poland because she didn't hand over danzig was nonsense, he didn't say that. well, it’s normal, yes , he, in general, he didn’t ask any sensitive question for putin, but in fact he tried to play like, well, like such an american patriot, and he wanted to convert into something, because he approached the topic of ivan hershkovich several times , uh, and it's clear that he very, very probably expected that they will give it directly to him and say yes, you came to us so cool, we will give it to you, take it away. come on, here, well, the point is that if putin really wants trump to win, then , let’s remember, now trump is talking about the fact that he will establish peace between russia and ukraine within 24 hours, but when he was president, there was the same war, the war

has been going on for 10 years, why didn't trump do anything then, and now it seems to me that... this was such a certain test for putin, if putin really counts on trump to win trump and his participation in the break-up of ukraine, so to speak, according to the idea, he should have putin so generously should have given hershkovich away, take this ivan, take him to the united states, it is not important for me, but then he will get out. a completely different story came out, when putin wanted to exchange hershkovich for this krasik murderer from berlin, but this is german sovereignty, it is not american sovereignty, that is , to exchange hershkovich for krasikov, it did not stick, the americans could not put enough pressure on berlin, so basically me

it seems that this gesture was the only interesting one. well, a productive option, when it was possible to tempt putin to some, well , some generosity. in the end, it seems to me that really, after this interview, you need to understand where, on what platform this interview was posted, on x on twitter, there people watch for a minute at most, even read one phrase, they will not watch the two-hour interview, as they, well, musk and carlson revealed. well, no one watched this movie, that is, it really failed, but nevertheless, here it is the story that you mentioned at the end about hershkovich, i think that it is not even so much for putin, it should be a test

rather for trump and the trumpists, to what extent they are ready to bend to putin, this was put to them. this is a question, and this question is actually for the same takor carlson, he could not pass it, that is, he is ready to bend, judging by everything further, judging by his further comments, there are phantoms for ukrainians, because ukrainians are afraid that trump will win and surrender ukraine . first of all, trump is not will be able to drive putin to any peace, if he could do it, he would do it now and win the election in a landslide. there, trump can't roll over ukraine , just give up, let's be honest, and in this matter, not that he is not ready to roll over putin, he is ready to simply give putin everything, and that's all, it's just a problem to come to an agreement with the ukrainians, who don't want to give up for some reason, thank you, volodymyr tsibulko, for joining us, we have another guest next, well, now i just remind

you once again about our survey, should to limit deputies of the verkhovna rada from working trips abroad during the war. if your answer is yes, this is 0800 211 381, if not - 0800 211 382 and oleg rybachuk is joining us now , uh, it's a former... and deputy and now it's the head of the geocenter of joint actions, ex-vice prime minister for european integration, and actually we've already started talking about the possibility. what the trumpists are doing, what they are ready for, what they are not ready for, i think to some extent we will continue this conversation with you, just a little bit from the other side, because there is actually some kind of strange

delay with the vote for aid in the us congress, moreover, there was a vote for there to be some such special mechanism for financing the actually budgetary ministries of various budgetary organizations states, which is bad for us, in principle, such a sign, it means that with help, for voting with the help of ukraine, israel, taiwan, they will continue to delay, and everything in principle points to this, it seems to me, and here of course the question is, why does the speaker of the us house of representatives, a republican, mike johnson, feel this way. and so with impunity and why nothing prevents him from further delaying the vote? well i think here if

we looked into the soul of this mike we would see that he is a scared bunny because really politically he will probably go down in the history of the united states as one of the weakest speakers his political life could be over... very quickly , moreover, whatever decision he makes, he will bet on voting, ah, the question of allocating aid, whether it is to ukraine, israel, taiwan, or separately, in any, but it is important, ukraine, if he puts it, then he is in danger of resigning, because trump opposed it and the trumpists exposed it, if if you don't put it, it will be eaten. the other part, the greater part of the republicans, who are called real conservatives, republicans , who are associated with the politics of reagan,

mccain, and of course the democrats, and therefore his political life is simply under a huge threat, one of the versions of why he is very was eager to go to biden, they were sitting there and talking one on one, they say there... uh, there could be some hope that if he put the question to the vote, and at the same time , almost the majority of experts say that in in this case, the votes in the congress will be more than enough to vote for the allocation of aid to ukraine, then in the event that the trumpists again try to make him a vote of no confidence, then the democrats will not support them, or a part of the democrats... does, in this way he can be saved on this place at the expense of the support of the democrats, but this is already a huge betrayal, they have elections in the fall, he will have to go to re-elections, he

as a congressman will go to these re-elections, and then in the event that trump wins or trump does not win, he will have almost a slim chance to get into the congress again, so you won't envy his position, huh, that is, his position in principle. such an absolutely hideous one, let's put it bluntly, but there is another one, well, as if as a party to this whole process, it also became known that the administration of the president the united states, john biden, seems to have a plan to help ukraine with weapons right now, without waiting for congress to approve this 60 billion aid. because earlier there was a report that the us department of defense still has about four. in the fund of presidential powers, which have been available to ukraine all this time, and there are, and there were, but the us department of defense, for some

, well, frankly, incomprehensible, deep reason, does not use these 4 billion, and well , as if arguing with that if the weapons are withdrawn now, there is no certainty as to what will be allocated something that will then replenish the weapons in the warehouses , and you know this. this is really a very strange and incomprehensible motivation here in ukraine, that it is necessary to keep the warehouses full, not to take them out while waiting for something, explain to me this incomprehensible behavior, and what can be done in general so that this to remove the fear of slightly less replenished warehouses somehow from the ministry of defense of the united states, well , if, and if putin attacks, that's it. so this is what scholz has in many countries, which every time i hear about the fact that no, no, we can't give it away, it's good that denmark is like that, well, really

er...challenged all these countries by saying that we give all the weapons because we understand the importance, but here the first thing is, it's not, it's not the pentagon, you understand that it's a formal language, the owner of the funds is the pentagon, the ministry of defense , but the decision is made by the biden administration, why is this not a new story, it was talked about there, you remember, at the same time they found some additional four or 6 billion there, which came out as a result that something was miscalculated, such a matchmaker, but i always said that the pentagon, well, no there is such a situation that the pentagon and the president of the united states can make a decision on the provision of this or that aid, they exclusively depend only on the congress, but the american president, in the presence of political will, always has the opportunity and

the pentagon always has something... , and they talked about these 4 billion for a long time, you are telling the truth, but i am inclined to think that this is a method, and for some reason this topic was raised again, it arose there in the fall, when the funding period was already running out there and the americans said that well yes, maybe, but it's on the extreme, that is, it's already here , that's it, if it's going to be bad at all, but - why do they do it, well, it's a form of pressure now on and so it melts, how do you know, how is it, how is it, chicken, tobacco , yes, this is georgian , when you are splashed, so johnson reminds me now, this is a chicken who was simply put in a frying pan and pressured from all sides, and he actually cannot but put it to the vote, cannot put it to the vote, and the american the administration simply increases the pressure, and including it is also

a form of pressure, but simply... what about you and me ukrainians are struck by this , that it looks very cynical to us, they talk about support every day, they talk about the fact that we see the price paid by the ukrainians, we see this price, we see what is being done to our armed forces, but there are things that even they do not make official, i think that they could and, i do not rule out that this is happening, they could give artillery weapons, and maybe there will be some other option for us. what is important is that it should be done as soon as possible, but even with realistic forecasts, it will take at least a month at the earliest, and then, between to others, this possibility of biden and the pentagon , when a decision is made, they may not wait until everything works there politically, but may already then give certain tranches of aid at the expense of this special fund of the president of the united states, which is at

the disposal. ugh, well, i understand, that is, this is a way to increase the pressure, why give a little and so that everything remains in order, when you can provoke a big crisis, and then use this crisis to pressure and get not 4 billion, but 60, well, clearly, well somewhere, somewhere yes, somewhere yes, yes, but here of course it is an interesting story that now we have already lost evdiyivka, we have enormous pressure on the entire... on the entire front line, everyone understands, well , even the western media understand, and some observers, that ukraine's failures at the front are completely due to the fact that there is not enough weapons, but only by this factor, because the planes are not shot down, a sufficient number of russians are not destroyed...