and president macron clearly said that russia cannot win this war, and that he expressed the idea of ​​the need to send military units to ukraine, well, let's say, military, military from western countries, and we know that this idea, although the first reaction there were some countries, i would say yes, cautiously negative, but... then, eh, but not completely negative, they said, maybe, that you are not on time and so on, but now four countries are talking about it exactly like that , what is needed, and i am sure that a big one will come out of this stream a river of support for ukraine, and that is why europe, on the one hand, understands that it is necessary and consciously considers an increase.

support for ukraine, and on the other hand, i understand that if it turns out with america, it will be difficult to solve this issue in the future, then the whole burden will fall on the shoulders of europe, and this is also a necessity, but the fact is that this is how europe wakes up, it seems to me , has already woken up, and i see in the proposal, the ideas of president macron, eh very eh... an important thing that will develop and that will definitely be useful to us and will be for us to help in the fight against russian aggression in order to win, to win, i understand, to push russia out of ukrainian territory. the head of the pentagon, lloyd austin, very interestingly formulated his vision and his reaction to what is happening, in particular now in europe, to the position of macron and kahn.

by the way, which is also interesting, noted that we may someday consider the option of our special forces or some special forces being present in ukraine, in particular for the training of the ukrainian military, that is, this is a trend, and lloyd austin formulated the following in this way: if ukraine loses, nato will fight with russia, and again, maybe this is a philosophy, but unfortunately, there is still no wording, if ukraine does not win, then nato will fight. with russia, does this mean, well, so fleetingly, that there is still no awareness, and what exactly will be the loss of the russian federation, perhaps our gain in the war, even for our partners? unfortunately, in my opinion, i do not see that there is any clear strategy agreed upon in the west, what it means for russia to lose the war, and what it means for ukraine to win, it is clear, ukraine is entering its... international borders in relation to russia

, or there is a concept, yes, and it is closed , it is not for publication, maybe it has already been formed, maybe it is stored behind seven locks imposed on it there, and no one can even extract some information for press , maybe it is, and if it is, then it is better, but if it is not, then it is very bad, but we need rather not, well... wording is also important, but rather we need help to make it exactly like that, as we need, and that this is this mistake, when the western leaders themselves admit, that the delay in aid to ukraine for some types of weapons was 6 dashes of 12 months, so that such a mistake would not be made again and that the weapons that we ask for go to us at the time that we ask for and in the quantities that we ask for,

then it will be realistic to talk about the fact that ukraine will really win and liberate all its lands is a matter of principle, in principle, but if we talk about what is still connected in the united states with donald trump, do you think that his advisers can also now consider how the situation is changing. in the russian-ukrainian war and that they really have any real plan on how to settle this war, or is it just trump's words? i think that they are making plans there, and i think that they, if ex-president trump wins the election, they will have a plan, well, let's remember the previous situation, when the first time... he won

the election there, there was such, there was such great pessimism , and then it turned out that the situation was changing a little along the way. that, well, first of all, trump gave us javelins, everyone is talking about that now, well, secondly, he moved there europe, sending a brigade, as far as i remember, to nato, to nato's european territories. thirdly, which is very important, er, ousted 60 er, american russian diplomats, read spies, that's the decision. was so difficult to make, but he made this decision, well, another important decision was made, as we remember, pompeo's declaration was made, in which it was recorded in writing that the united states would never recognize crimea as russian, it's

like that declaration of veles, which was adopted in 1940 regarding the baltic states, which stood the test of time, and in the end the baltic... the former soviet republics became independent states, so i think they have a plan, the only thing is that i, too, if i think that today it is difficult to predict what the actions of the president will be, ex-president trump, if he is re-elected to this position, no one, well, if he clearly does not see it today, what is important for us, the support of america is important for us, we have, of course , thank you... america for that great support, which she gave us and which allowed us to endure, now, of course, we have to continue to work with america, so that it continues this assistance, because without it, without its help, it will be much more difficult for us. thank you, mr. oleksandr, oleksandr motsik, the former

ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america, was in touch with us, and now we will talk about what is happening in moldova with mariana prysiazhnyuk, a graduate student of journalism at the university of bukhara. congratulations, ms. mariana. good afternoon, well, there was such a sensational story with this congress of people's deputies, the self-proclaimed of the transnistrian republic of moldova, there was even talk that russia was preparing to join this region, which has long been controlled by moscow since the late 1980s, early 1990s, one might say, but it seemed strange to me that the people who commented on these events believed that the issue of annexation could be resolved in 24 hours, because we have experience. crimea, we know that this is not the case, it is not the case that everything is decided overnight, as eh, eh, i, as it was commented on, but what, after all, did moscow and teraspol really achieve by holding this convention? ah, thank you for your remark, i think it is very apt, and it seems to me

, first of all, that if the president of russia wanted to annex the territories of moldova, this is the least he would expect, some real appeal from representatives, conditionally as . some kind of enclave there, some quasi-republic, it would be some kind of special operation mongoose, and we would have seen some recorded videos a long time ago, well , i am speaking figuratively on telegrams, and it would have already happened a long time ago, as far as transnistria itself is concerned, it seems to me that for for them, as for such an economic enclave, and in fact a black hole, in fact very dark times and they themselves do not even realize how dark they are, because in fact they have... not very many and alternatives left and not very much time to implement certain two or three scenarios with the maximum benefit for themselves, because ukraine has already announced that it is considering stopping the transit of gas to its

territory in general, and this is actually the only condition for the existence of such a safe for the transnistrian quasi-elite, and in fact one year left uh, on the other hand, for the interest of moscow, this is, of course, first of all, uh, the story about the elections in moldova, about the re-election of pro-european forces, well, first of all, it is about the re-election of mai-sandu, for which, her the party is counting because this is also a problematic sector, because apart from her party's action and solidarity, which will nominate her in the future as a candidate, well, in fact, there are no pro-european alternatives. and these are also certain challenges for kishenev in this, so these are such elements of destabilization aimed specifically at this story so that to discredit kishinev's government as much as possible, that it does not cope with reintegration , sabotages the negotiation process, does not

cope with economic regulation, energy regulation, etc., but there is also an interesting element of gagauzia, because it is autonomy within the republic of moldova, and separatism in gagauzia . in my opinion, even more dangerous, because it is a legal autonomy that enjoys the rights of autonomy, it has the right to solve certain issues locally, but this... it's all eddies, it's all not used to, for example, develop the gagauz cult, culture, to develop and nurture the gagauz language , and for a they use it to nurture russian peace, that is why and on legal grounds, in fact, that is why it is even more dangerous, well , to draw a line briefly, i think that a for transnistria, and for gagauzia, as such an appendage of separatism at the level of ideas, it is somewhere around 2004. the year 2005, when there should be elections on both sides and in ukraine

, in fact, the pro-european government should be re-elected in moldova, and this method of theirs, on which the so-called transnistrian is based identity, about the blockade, about the unification of moldova with romania, well, and about the demonization of ukraine there, well, that is, all this comes to life, well, and becomes their real policy, which one they use for... including for relations with russia, that is, the arrival in moscow of the leader of hagruza yevgenia ee hutsul - is it not a coincidence, but just such a systematic work on destabilization? i think not, because since the time of the transnistrian war, the gagauz quasi-military forces and political organizations that were organized in those times they always had a certain cooperation with... the transnistrian separatists, all this was fueled by moscow, all this was

also fueled at the level of some personal contacts, and here, for example, such an interesting moment that we noticed with our colleagues, at the so-called representative of gagauzia, ivan burgudzhi, was spotted at the drive of transnistrian deputies. this is a very interesting historical figure, no understatement, because he is, from the point of view of the gogaus, their national hero. who stood at the origins of this republic, which lasted four years. with from the point of view of moldovan legislation, this is, of course, a separatist character who still continues to participate in very dubious stories, well, as a father of the transnistrian congress of deputies, but borgozhi was not only the founder of this movement, the gagauz national movement, if i am not mistaken, he also gathered the garda gagauz. i.e. military organizations from gagauzia, which took part in military clashes with chisinau in 1994,

so all these personal connections are simply the end of that history that continued, began in the late 80s, unfolded like this maximum in 1992, 1994 and escalated in 2004 to the eighth, and now this is another turn in inter-political cycles. uhu, well, that is , we can assume that if moldova agreed to certain economic steps towards the unrecognized transnistria, certain economic ties between moldova and the so-called pmr existed all these years, then there would be no appeal for economic measures, protection towards there might not be a russian federation. on the other hand, in the rhetoric of lavrov, the minister of foreign affairs of the russian federation, the definition "moldovan regime", what... what they want in the pmr, we can assume and roughly understand, and what does

the russian federation actually want from this story? and for the russian federation, on the one hand, it can also be a story about elections, in order to operationalize the moldovan one in a certain way map in order to start, well, in principle, it already started with putin's speech to the federal assembly, but actually this is the international geopolitical dimension that fits into the narrative. unification of the post-soviet space, i think that this could be one of the assumptions , secondly, of course, the arsenal of weapons, which is located on the territory of occupied transnistria, many experts assess these opportunities for ukraine as those that could change the positions at the front in our favor, both because of the hunger for ammunition, and because there is a lot of ammunition for the soviet weapons, for soviet artillery

, which nato countries cannot supply, and this could help ukraine a lot and actually change the schedule of the battle we have, well, and yet another such another assumption - this is, of course, the destabilization of the republic of moldova as an ally of ukraine , she also for russia. it is important because transit routes also pass through the territory of moldova, by the way, transit routes also pass through the territory of occupied transnistria, which also help ukraine a lot, so it is complex. history, and despite the fact that the republic of moldova in many ways does not twist and play with its political rhetoric, as it should be, if we are talking about real solidarity between good-neighborly, within the framework of good-neighborly relations between countries, sanctions, for example, something else, but still to turn moldova finally in the direction

of pro-russian influence, this would greatly help russia, because it would also isolate ukraine. and because to create something similar to what we have on the border with poland, i think that if they received a positive effect from all their actions in transnistria, then this could still be the case. and you can explain what are the real capabilities of the russian army, which is located on the territory of the transnistrian moldavian republic, the so-called, there is also a russian army there, it consists of citizens of russia, as well as from local residents, but it exists there, what can it really do? i think this is a risk that existed, exists and will exist for a long time, within the framework of what we have with transnistria, because this is the contingent that we have on our borders first of all. according to various estimates, up to 20,000 military personnel are stationed there. they are all controlled by the russian federation without exception, starting with the military ogrv, which is

the force in which the 14th army of the soviet union, which fought against moldova in 1992, was reformed. year, then it is the peacekeeping forces which were formed as a result of the peace treaty between khishnev and moscow, and the so-called transnistrian army, which has the largest number in terms of numbers, but is still under the control of the russian federation, because according to various estimates of officials, both kyshnev and western intelligence, and according to journalistic studies, in principle , the power block of the mgb. the army, everything related to the so-called defense, it is all under the control of moscow without exception. as for their fighting ability, well, it's hard for me to say, it's hard for me to make such assessments about their combat capability, to be honest, but it seems to me that armed people can do damage in any case, especially if they

are scared, so on the border with ukraine, of course, it creates certain risks, and we are already in april of last year... the day before last, after the start of a full-scale invasion, we have already seen a series of provocations that were directed precisely by the efforts of such a contingent , including who it is, it does not matter, but they can and have experience in such events, in conducting such activities, with deployment of provocations and against ukraine, and certain information campaigns, and events on the territory of ukraine, because and... the actions in odesa on may 2 and 2, the infamous provocateurs from transnistria were also involved there, and the same year 2004, which i mentioned, before viktor yanukovych came to power, there were also meetings of provocateurs who considered the possibility of leading their people there on the territory of ukraine in the event that

the constitutional court did not recognize yanukovych, that is, all these things. there are accumulated in the institutional memory, so to speak, and if they cannot leave as an army, then they can do a lot of damage in the form of such provocations, well, actually, just the mechanics of the process are very interesting, how the russian federation will be able to support even, let's say , the group that may be active in the so-called pmr now, it is clear that in the spring of 2022 they were making certain plans regarding this one as well. territory, regarding us with the use of this territory, on the other hand, we understand that now the situation in this part of the map, in general, is more in our favor, we were finally able to to get involved, to enlist the support of our neighbors and partners in the black sea area, firstly, we carry out civil shipping and provide it

with the defense forces of ukraine, but at the same time we understand that this can be learned... and the unlocking of some precautionary measures that we need at this point, in order to prevent any pmr army from entering the odesa region, conditionally speaking, do you see such a threat, that is, the fact that we are actually trying to demine the black sea area in this part and so on, or not will russia take advantage of this? i think it is included in the regional security strategy, but still a little goes beyond the scope of the topic we are discussing, regarding separatism in transnistria, i can. only here to share with you my thoughts on the participation of foreign partners in this matter, for example, before the congress of transnistrian

deputies there was a whole landing in teraspol of very interesting meetings, for example, the representative of the state department christopher smith visited teraspol and met with the leader of the teraspol regime vadym krasnoselsky, then after the convention teraspol was visited by the ambassador of great britain. this was also the extraordinary ambassador for extraordinary assignments of ukraine, mr. paun ragovey, that is, a whole series of historic meetings, and all these participants of these meetings spoke, for example, emphasized the return to the 5+2 format in which, for example, sentences are passed, but the following was added the nuance is very interesting, that 1+1 would also suit everyone, then... i think that the situation will develop in the direction of negotiations between teraspol and chisinau, somewhere there, maybe next to each other, excuse me, the representative of the state department

, mr. smith, will stand and quietly observe this process, and of course, teraspol wants guarantees, teraspol wants to keep his capital, teraspol wants to withdraw money and safely continue to provide existence for some of his relatives, that is, because... that the end this story seems very close, thank you, thank you, mrs. mariana, mariana prysiazhniuk, journalist, graduate student of vohared university, we had her on the air, we will now take a break for literally a couple of minutes, but you remain with the story ahead hours of talk, there are discounts on vitamin d3, d3 max, 10% in pharmacies, plantain, bam and savings, there are discounts on motif. 20% in pharmacies plantain, memory and savings. the premium sponsor of the national team

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hand , putin traditionally addressed the federal assembly and once again threatened the west with nuclear weapons, promising that the sarmatian will be demonstrated in the near future. nothing new here, it would seem. but here at the other pole, among our western partners, as usual. how they sound to me really completely new things, this is an assumption of the probability that a conditional soldier of nato may appear on the territory of our country in a confrontation with the russian federation, and here we have our own edition of lemonde french says that in this way the west is trying to raise the stakes, it is bold in this situation, i also believe that the west is trying to raise the stakes, by the way, this statement by the president of the french republic , emmanuel macro, was the first for the chronology. and then the next day , the speech of the president of the russian federation , vladimir putin, as a person who, in principle knows how such speeches are written, i can tell you absolutely responsibly that all night

between... macron's speech and putin's statement , putin's speechwriters revised the text of his speech, because as you understand, in this speech, which was prepared for several months in a row, as are working on putin's message , especially now they don't even happen every year, so it's serious work, a huge number of people sit, give references, give numbers, then people write it all down, then they consult with various departments. agree with different by the ministers, and here, when everything is actually on the table, as they say, when the chief just needs to go to the podium and read this brilliant text, it turns out that a new situation has appeared, to which one cannot help but react, and this entire text , it is big, huh, plus there is a text that is distributed to the members

of the federal assembly and the ministers who gather there. by the way, they always match, no, there is a larger text in volume, which means that all this has to be reworked, reprinted, because the text that is distributed, as a rule, even i do not know, maybe it is now in is distributed in electronic form, but i don't believe it, because these people always need a document in their aunt, that's all and it's a big, big print, because imagine how many members of the federation council, deputies of the state duma, members of the cabinet of ministers, every person , who is invited there, must receive... a document, so it’s just like that, everything was a mess, putin was probably having a tantrum there, running around the office, saying that this macron couldn’t wait, and i think that macron too understood what he was doing, that it was not simple a statement after a meeting in the elysee palace , and this was a statement before putin's meeting, and before putin was going to create a serious problem, because if we think about it, if i

analyze all this... and it's not just a rate hike, it's also and the struggle for leadership , see how the real events are developing , a whole bunch of western leaders who are coming here for the second anniversary will invade in kyiv , and the main star of this whole story is the prime minister of italy, george meleni, who at the same time leads the right-wing list in the elections to federal... federal to the european parliament, to the european parliament , and she is at the same time chairing the group of seven meetings now, and she is holding such a meeting virtually so that the group of seven has clearly said that it will continue to help ukraine, that there will be no assets russian unblocked until the end of the war, all these are very important statements, the french president is not there,

he is at an agricultural exhibition. and the french side says: that's what we wanted, we were ready a day earlier, and a day later, but for some reason she chose the exact day when he is at the agricultural exhibition, then the person returns from the agricultural exhibition and gathers other leaders in the elysée palace, well, some of them were at the meeting of the group of seven that took place in scholz, well, some were not, of course, because they are not included in this group, and... this is just another meeting in support of ukraine just in paris and after this meeting macron makes a statement, after which no one remembers the meeting held in kyiv by george meleni. more, george melena himself is not at the meeting in paris. ugh. there are no italian representatives there at all. as an experienced politician , she understands what macron is doing to her. well, olaf scholz is forced to be both there, and there, and there, and

he doesn't like it there. because maloney is the first person there, and macron is the first person there, and meanwhile the biggest aid comes from germany, and scholz can't stand it, he says, but you could at least send more weapons, by the way, i don't know, you know that journalists asked before the meeting at the elysee palace macron's advisers, and why, of course, this meeting is not in berlin, you can explain to us, the french journalists themselves, and they answered them, because... we have better weapons, we give better weapons, we have the president take, that's how it can be less money, but we are very serious, well, it is true, france is very serious in helping ukraine, but germany is more, but president macron is not only talking about the fact that there may be troops, he is talking about the fact that other countries should help germany more, more ukraine means germany also, that is, it is actually about that.