already after the start of a full-scale war, but the struggle itself, the struggle for this law dragged on for years, for years, i think, if it were not for the war, we would still be fighting for this law, again a part of accountants, which is always present in any to the government, they say it ’s expensive, it’s billions, well, it’s billions , accordingly, it’s the 22nd year for the place, and here it began, i call it a vekhanalia, ideas began to flow, because the law does not fix the place, the law of the 22nd fixes the cemetery, no fixes the place. and here they begin: let's build on lysia gora, let's build in babeno yaru, let's give a singing field, and we just we at the institute looked at all this with such eyes, we didn't have time to comment that it's just read the law first, there is a list of objects such that there is a need for space, accordingly all these offers, and the families of the victims hear this story and think that it would really be nice to be in the center, in the center of kyiv, where it is easy to get to, but then they start... to face questions,

elementary questions, if we are somewhere in the center of kyiv 100 + ha for such a cemetery, no, because there are not 100 + in the center of kyiv ha, and if we take some of those locations and one of these, i consider provocative ideas, was to make this cemetery in the side house, and this was probably the last straw, because many families were very strongly for this, for this, for this location , for the sideline, the sideline, the families of the fallen. why? and because they were told that it is almost, almost in kyiv, that there is a lot of space, but they were not told one very important thing, that this is a place of memory, already in which, unfortunately, in this forest, most likely from the mass burials of the times are very likely stalin's repressions. and then another trigger was turned on, that most of our people are not aware of and do not realize this problem, that is, even some high-ranking officials, i am coming. i probably remember very well, i talk

to the architect, and the architect says, i ask him, so let's build this one, well , they say to him, build it in the bullpen, he says, well, it's like the same place, well, it might be risky there, there is a mass there, if we don't go for a mass burial, we will stop the construction, we have to rubberize it, do it, and they say to him, no, well, let's think of something, he says okay, let's go, why not in the woman 's ravine, he's like no-no, well , you can't in the woman's ravine, it's a place of memory, that is, the bullpen, even at the level of people, was not fixed as such a place of memory, where not you can to touch, and accordingly it was a serious story of such miscommunication, and people were provoked , it comes to us, we say, look, we initially proposed, vytrovych even proposed to do it in the gatno, well, and then it all went into the space of political speculation, because part of the parliament submitted a draft law for the bullpen the bullpen and the council voted, but the president did not sign it, they are calling me to tell me how they are calling me in more detail, they are asking me absolutely... the president, and i am

at the front, we are generally standing under orichov, on zaporozhye, i could pick up the phone , because we have a starlik, i pick up the phone, i say, i can't speak now , we are leaving here on combat duty, the president calls her and asks what the problem is with the sidewall, because part of the law has come, and part of the experts say that there are caveats , ask the institute of national memory, they will tell me, i will tell you, well, here you are they show five or six risky items, and they, well, the president says, well, that's right, but why is that? previously not taken into account, a logical question, and it turns out that the parliament has voted, and he, as a person who understands that this will be trouble, that we can be stuck there for another five years or how long, and then the issue of changing the place will be initiated memorial sites for this cemetery are returned to gatno, which we immediately proposed, and well, thank god, the parliament votes in gatno on this plot, which is in support of the government's decision in gatno, but what i was impressed, and more than 300 deputies supported it, and we... i personally got involved with

the minister of agriculture, got involved, because it is a question of land and there is the allocation of land, and we went to factions and explained, well , practically all deputies voted, except for some, except of one faction, because it became part of the political such an ugly situation, because some of the deputies said that the president does not respect the parliament, that he does not want to sign the bullpen, they believe that the president did not sign the draft law that was initiated by the opposition... of political power, what they say, yes, no , what they say the president does not respect the parliament, because he should have signed the bill, because the parliament first voted for him, only later can cancel it, re-vote, and this made the situation politically very ugly, and well, we went around these factions, they said, well , come on, you won't bring this issue into the plan, well, if the opposition should always be in power, but i say, come on, you won't be here, and the majority of the opposition forces, well, there is a significant part. agreed and did not discuss it

and well, in such an ugly plane, i voted for gatne, well, some did not, well, again, i didn’t vote against anyone there in my opinion, people abstained, but you know , this is someone who says that we very often cannot cross over political ambitions, even in such very important matters, the prime minister gave an engagement to in six months of this 24th year to build the first sector, the first sector, and now there are many questions to, i see that you just recently participated in the discussion of the design of the typical details, and in general now a lot of questions and discussions about how it... should look like, what it will be like in terms of architecture and design, what kind of space it will be, can you tell me in a few words what the very idea of ​​this big space, space memorial cemetery? so, the law stipulates that it must be

a large object, in which sense it is large, there must be a museum that tells about the history of soldiers in general, a place that is very similar to the memorial that you asked about at the beginning. which will tell about what wars ukraine waged in what, in what times, and how, why exactly this place of memory represents various fighters for the actual freedom of ukraine, including her, of course, a large part of this museum will be dedicated to the modern war, because, unfortunately, it is the majority of burial places, although it was not originally intended that way, but she of course, it will be for those people who died, or later after the victory will calmly live and die and have. to be buried in this vault, then, accordingly, the museum that told, then there should be a memorial, a memorial, a great national memorial, which honors the of all the dead and who fought, this is such a simple memorial place, then there should be a big crematorium there, because we don’t have enough crematoriums, the city crematorium, well, in kyiv

it can’t withstand the load, the infrastructure is old, it’s generally old technologies, we need them it is necessary to restore, accordingly, this crematorium is also posh. will serve this cemetery itself, plus help with this infrastructure, further it is assumed that there will be large spaces of columbariums, and, accordingly, there will be modern technical and administrative buildings, an archive that will keep a list of those people, maybe even production workshops, where they will be made, or at the military memorial koduschi, there will be a special system, well , a specific system and it will be regulated by the cabinet of ministers, who will not be there, you know? as it often happens now, somewhere there is a boy with a guitar sitting in a statue, and somewhere there is some motley obelisk, and there the head is half, well, in fact , discussions are already beginning about this, that some families say: no, we want to bury the way we think, and the monument over the mushroom is the same,

as they want, look, the military memorial cemetery is disciplinary space, clearly limited by requirements, according to the best world models, brevity, standardization. any family is not required to bury in a war memorial, any family has the right to choose whether to bury in any cemetery in their community, in a sector of military burials, where it is convenient, or in a military memorial cemetery, if in a military - to the memorial cemetery - this is, for example, if a person is, for example, from simferopol, a family in which a son or daughter fought for the independence of ukraine, died, a person can choose to be buried at home, and either at the sector cemetery or the military memorial cemetery, there are advantages. cons pros close to home it is convenient and do what you want on that grave, if you choose a military memorial cemetery, it will be in the center of the country, in the very heart, and why is kyiv convenient , because it is more convenient to go out of all, because it is in the center of the country, but there is a minus , you won't be able to, for whom it's a minus, for whom it's a plus, you won't be able

to do what you want there, but on the other hand it will be a beautiful space, like arlington, everyone likes arlington, but somehow not everyone i like that you can't influence anything, okay, well, choose either the caption or i don't know what. there are three options, i understand correctly, there are three options for detailed details, tell me about what these options are? there are two options for superstructures, now, we , and we insist on them, and the architect, and most of the people who are at the round table, as far as i got the impression, also support it, roughly speaking, two options for superstructure, the first one, which is chosen by the family , the first option, the main one , is the cossack cross, actually famous cossack cross, if we look at... the tradition of burying soldiers in ukraine, the tradition of burying a soldier under the cossack cross is more than 500 years old, this is a very important tradition, and odesa, cherkasy, kyiv, ternopil, vinnytsia, find an old cemetery of 200-300 years old, there will be a cossack cross everywhere, and for us, for example,

it is fundamental that the cossack cross should be the main memorial figure of the gravestone, the gravestone figure in this cemetery, because not all countries have a history in the year 500. and we have a concrete memorial tradition of warriors burial under the cossack cross, and for us, for example, it is extremely important to preserve this, that is, it is no longer a religious meaning, but simply a cultural meaning, yes. much more than about religion, many people, well, atheists, well, or not very good, well, let's say, not very orthodox christians, but they were still buried under cossack crosses, kipyani very vakhton kipyani, an outstanding ukrainian historian and popularizer of history, he even while in exile, he explored saun baunbrook, one of the cemeteries where many soldiers of the ukrainian unrt army are buried there, he says that even there about after researching more than 70. restrictions, all people chose the cossack cross

free space where there were no more than 70%, accordingly, this is the first form of the memo, but there is also, but this cross is cut, first a flat slab is cut, and further from this slab, the cross stands out, but if it is for people who do not profess christianity, or for whom it is essential not to be buried under christ, they will not be there. it will just be the same flat plate, which is similar in shape to, i don't know, the crescent moon, the star of david, and it will depict either a religious symbol, a buddhist symbol, i.e. of that religion, or simply the coat of arms of ukraine, if a person, for example, is an atheist in principle, and accordingly the entire cemetery will have two such options for a tombstone, the person will choose himself, accordingly, no problem, huh, someone says it won't be very nice, i don't agree, this issue can also be resolved, because according to the outline of...

it is important for us that we cannot abandon the memorial tradition, which is more than 500 years old, well, this is a very important thing, it's like you're building a great national memorial a cemetery that should record the traditions of a military formation. and memorial and burial and you forget the cossack crap, well, it's just not accepted. we literally have 30 seconds left, so you said that the work has already started and when will we have this space completed? well , the ministry of veterans gave the best answer about this, because it is theirs, they have a state institution that deals with this, as far as i know, the work has started, there are already visits there, research on the territory, geology, and a draft project are already there. and there i am currently working on the documentation and they are preparing, as far as i know,

the site for construction works, but it is better to ask the ministry of vet, it is them. anton, thank you for the conversation, anton drobovich, it was a conversation about how to remember, we honor the memory of heroes, glory to ukraine and glory to our heroes, there are discounts on lisobact - 10% in pharmacies for travelers and savings. there are discounts on parafast - 10% in podorozhnyk pam and oskad pharmacies. there are discounts on lactial - 10% in pharmacies plantain for you and savings. there are 20% discounts on pulmopriz in psyllium pharmacies. to you and savings. big ether

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currently underway in ukraine. its successful implementation is the main requirement. for our further path to the eu, about how successful the transformation is and whether the moral and professional qualities of justice officials meet high standards let's talk today but first to the news. vitaly snigirov, a former judge of bryankiv city court of luhansk region, who betrayed his oath after the start of the war and went over to the side of the enemy, was leaked to the russian fsb by the russian fsb about ukrainian judges and military personnel. according to the investigation materials, snigiryov contacted an fsb employee and sent him photos and contact details of his former colleagues, as well as information about the ukrainian military and their relatives. on july 22 , snigiryov sent an fsb officer a photo of a ukrainian military man who was caught in captured by the russians, stating that he was the father of a major of the armed forces of ukraine and sent his photo, mobile number and place of service. vitaly snigirov

left for russia in the 20th year, received citizenship there, and the state judicial administration in the luhansk region paid snigerov's salary for... two years. in total , he illegally received almost uah 2 million. snigerev was informed of the suspicion of fraudulent appropriation of particularly large amounts of funds and treason. finally , after two years of war , a collaborative judge from kherson was sent for release region nataliya sharko. even at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, she sided with the occupiers and makes illegal decisions against the citizens of ukraine. recently, the judge arrested the ukrainian lenur khalilov, whom the russians accuse of alleged participation. in an illegal armed formation. the judge has been working for the occupiers for two years, but until recently she was not fired and received her salary from the budget of ukraine with all allowances. and only now, when the judge did not appear for the interview for the third time, the supreme council of justice recommended her to release the higher qualification commission of judges continues to assess ukrainian judges for

their suitability for the positions they hold. not everyone, and especially resourceful servants of themis, pass the inspection until the commission qualifies. makes a decision on whether they can perform legal proceedings at all, submit to another court in parallel for competition, and suddenly it will work. this is pavlo gorbasenko, head of the economic court of the kyiv region. he is one of the most scandalous judges and one of the most influential people in the kyiv region. currently , gorbasenko is waiting for a decision from the vkks will he continue to sit in the judge's chair? last year in december, the commission postponed the final decision on gorbasenko and expected additional explanations and documents from him. the decision is announced. while the higher quorum commission is waiting for additional information from pavlo gorbasenko, he decided not to waste time and submitted documents for participation in the competition for the position of a judge in

the northern commercial court of appeal. in this way, a promotion can be obtained and reset. some facts of personal and professional biography in the previous place work, and gorbasenko spams the prosecutor general and the supreme council of justice with grievances and complaints about alleged interference in his work. in reality, he is banally trying to justify himself, because the higher qualification commission received appeals about his alleged non-compliance with the qualification criteria due to mistakes made during the consideration of cases. we are talking about one of the enterprises of critical infrastructure in the kyiv region - bilotserkiv thermal power plant. the shareholder... insists that in the pad case the judge made many unjust decisions and took measures securing a lawsuit by suspending the effect of the decisions of the general meeting of shareholders of a company that owned significant assets. in another case. judge gorbasenko took the same measures on the application, which was signed by the representative of the defendant, and is considering another claim. again, it is not signed by the plaintiffs, but for some reason by a representative

of the defendant. the northern commercial court of appeal overturned the decision made by gorbasenko. therefore, the shareholders believe that the judge's actions have signs of raiding and illegal interference in the economy activity and reported it to the higher qualification commission of judges, which has to decide whether the judge will continue his career. instead, the hump'. decided that the appeal of the shareholders to the vkk is nothing more than interference in its activities. from pavlo gorbasenko's report on interference in the judge's activities. i consider it necessary to report the interference in my activity as a judge, regarding the administration of justice, as well as the manifestation of contempt of court. in fact, spamming higher authorities, the prosecutor's office and courts with complaints and lawsuits is a common practice for gorbasenko. in the odious district administrative court of kyiv, he contested the negative conclusion of the communities. codes of integrity, then tried to challenge the decision of the supreme court itself in the supreme court. experts regard these actions as a simple attempt to evade the qualification assessment.

the judge provided known or false information in the qualification procedures and tried to avoid passing the qualification assessment. ingenious, interesting, qualification assessment for a position in the northern commercial court of appeal, he will avoid in the same way? by let's go with the answers. to pavlo gorbasenko, the working day is in full swing, so, as the head of the court, he must be at his workplace. we are not allowed to go to the court, but they say that you can contact him only by phone and only through his assistant. hello, congratulations, this is darya vyacheslavivna, mr. gorbasenko's assistant. hello, my name is olena, i am a tv channel journalist, i would like to know if it will be today. is gorbasenko at work and is it possible that he is already in court? there is work, but a meeting with the head is impossible. the assistant promises to inform pavlo gorbasenko about our visit and provide an answer to

the information request. we have received a list of questions that interest you and that you would like an answer to, and we will then consider your application, depending on the workload, we will agree with you when to accept you. well, let's try again, so far pavlo gorbasenko has not answered us to... any of the requests we sent over the past year. pavlo gorbasenko was appointed a judge of the commercial court of the kyiv region by presidential decree in 2010. the judge used family, friendship and other career interests since 2007 gorbasenko was married to was married to a daughter of a person who at that time was a judge and chairman of the supreme court of ukraine. it was at the end of the zeros that gorbasenko, who worked as a legal consultant in a private firm,

suddenly decided to change his activities and get a job at the commercial court of the kyiv region. just during the time when his then father-in-law valentyn barbara was a member of the supreme council of justice. an interesting coincidence. gorbasenko remained in office even after the revolution of dignity, managed to get into several scandals and live on a considerable number of square meters. acquire. the judge's property was helped by a housewife's mother, at least that's what he assures, it was his mother who gave two apartments of 116 and 136 m2 in the summer area on the obolon embankment in kyiv. my mother gave me two apartments and a car. here are some of the most expensive residential complexes in obolon with picturesque views of the dnipro. prices for apartments start at $100,000 for a simple one-room apartment, and the gorbasenk family actually owns an entire floor. i wonder how much it cost pleasure. giving apartments to her son for herself, pavlo gorbasenko's mother built a house of more than 800 m2 in the village of lebedivka near kyiv.

next to the picturesque green forest, on a huge private territory of more than half a hectare, there is a two-story building, a swimming pool. where did the mother of the housewife get the money for such a big house? pavlo gorbasenko assures that all the money is for the support of the businessman's father. father, a builder of many. seniority, and in addition to construction, he is engaged in various indirect activities, his own judge volodymyr gorbasenko's father runs a business in occupied crimea, so he obviously pays taxes to the terrorist state. and this is hanna svyredenko, a member of the kyiv city council and the owner of a large amount of real estate, in particular in kyiv and the occupied crimea. according to the documents, she is divorcing for the second time from the head of the commercial court of the kyiv region pavlo gorbasen. the first time they allegedly broke up on december 24, 2014, but they remained in such a wonderful relationship that already 5 days after the divorce they went

to europe together. in 2017, they gave birth together child, then traveled abroad dozens of times, even during the war. all this is too similar to the manipulation of the norms of the law, presumably precisely in order not to declare property. we broke up with her in the 14th year , and that is why i did not mention her in the future, but we continued our communication, just two circumstances under which i have to declare her disappeared: in january of the 22nd year, gorbasenko and sveredenko got married again and in the fall last year again. hastily decided to divorce, everything was organized literally in a day, gorbasenko did not try to speed up this process hides my ex-wife and i tried to file a lawsuit, in the order of a separate lawsuit, in order to speed up the proceedings. gorbasenko's divorce took place just before the beginning of the qualification assessment and the opening of the register of declarations, which

the judge did not submit for the year 2023, despite what is going on. important for his future attestation and applies for a position in another court. already on march 4, the higher qualification commission of judges should make a decision regarding the further judicial career of pavlo gorbasenko. we hopefully, the members of the commission have thoroughly investigated his biography, professional competence, legality of decisions and compliance of lifestyle with official income. and they will make a fair decision about him. and for today i have everything. it was judicial control and i am tatyana shustrova. if you know the facts of corruption in the judicial system, or you want to report an unscrupulous judge who makes illegal decisions, write to me on facebook or to the email address you see on the screen. it's all good, we'll meet in exactly one week.

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