and others with such and such a manneka, because they were mobilized with such a bandage. perhaps this is one of the elements, but i emphasize once again, people need to understand that they will have to fight anyway, either you fight for ukraine under the flag of ukraine, or the russians will drive you like cattle, putting a barricade behind you and they will treat you like cattle drive towards the hated warsaw and nato. we saw it, the first and second army corps of the so-called lpr, dnr, as an example to all, in the occupied territories, the russians today distributed about... 2 million passports, friends, 10% of them, if mobilized , will result in an army of 200,000 people, and someone may have thought that they would wait and wait, then they did not wait and did not wait, but such are the problems now, we are motivated, we have one motivator for today must work in the information field, fight or die , with money, well, no, well, it won’t work like that with money, a skilled recruiting company, conditionally there are fifth oshb, third oshb, wolves yes... others,

it’s not about money, they are told that you will come to us, we will teach you to fight and you will have a chance to survive, this is a motivator, it is not about money, it’s about a chance to survive, the recruiting company of the ministry of defense said somewhere, they wrote in social networks, i couldn’t really check there, up to 150 thousand people applied, so that’s normal, you understand, absolutely, but the point is that for some reason we have armed people. in the uniform of the armed forces of ukraine , relatively speaking, somewhere in the frankiv region, somewhere in space, this is an enemy, what women, these are probably spies of this tsk, for some reason they did something like this through that single marathon, that a person in the uniform of the armed forces can be central committee member, i that means it is an enemy, it must be defeated , what is it, what country do we live in, what are we fighting for, what are we holding borders for today, i pay attention to this only in this aspect, the motivator for us is fight or die . that's all, there is nothing else. 2,000, you

literally have one thesis, recently the ministry of finance had a show saying, what half a million do you need to mobilize, we don't have money for half a million. i understand that it was invented to pay 15 million for a dead brother out of fear. well, they, i, i'll just clarify, mr. igor, maybe people don't know, it was such a story, that the russians paid a certain amount there, they wanted more from us, because we are not russians, but the question is that it is a lot, well, i will not go there. workers, because i, well, i don’t have dead relatives, so 15 million, i saw that they were not paid or paid, so i don’t know, from what they say, it’s not an easy story, but in any case, we understand that it will continue to be difficult, although, well, if you promised, people gave their lives, everything, they gave the most important thing, they have nothing, and therefore it is necessary to fulfill, please, but no, well of course, what they promised, i say again, they think something that they can motivate with populist things, no, those who were ready to go to war, they did not go with... for money, not

for money, they are already there, that's all, you promised , you pay, okay, but the motivator for us is not money, for us it is simply a question of survival, this is our biggest ally and motivator, it must be conveyed, at the same time, what is being conveyed to us, the show of the quarter there, the show is there, i'm looking for a woman, a quiet evening with olena kravets, look at what they're spending on taxpayers' money, what is the money spent on, which could be spent on the armed forces of ukraine? because what the western partners give us, they don't give it to the army, but they give it to this other thing, well, none the less, listen, mr. vasyl, our program is now watched by many more people than in a day freedom is english-speaking and so on, well, listen, well, let 's be frank, these are the geniuses of communication we have today, no, they are not geniuses of communication, because they are not cope with this communication of society, we have already put in the infantry, the best infantry in the world.

into the ground, today the task is to prepare the second wave, if we do not prepare it, the question, well , the question, then we will live then, you are right when you say about the best infantry, because then when you understand that it was the best infantry, you understand why they held back moshtun, when it would seem that it was impossible to contain him, but a small piece of land on the way to kyiv there is a bolon there and so on, i let water there, as i don’t say there about kharkiv oblast, kherson oblast, there were also battles , no one was there anymore... well, chernihiv oblast too, when two tanks against 200, there is this tank regiment, well, that’s me , i understand. sumy oblast is the same, i understand what you’re talking about and it is very important that it be prepared, i don't know, let's think i already had others there, let's listen to ilya yevlash, he is the spokesman of the operational-strategic group of soldiers, this ilya once worked with us at espresso, so we will listen to him, he talks there about the situation on bakhmutskyi. direction is important

to hear and understand what is happening there. and the enemy continues to press with his assault groups, using... baghi is trying to press both from the flanks and from the front near bohdanivka, ivanovsky. its main purpose is now in the iv, since after the temporary yar it will be a bridgehead for the continuation of the offensive on kostyantynivka, and then from the southern flank on the kramatorsk-slavonian agglomeration. from the northern flank, the enemy is throwing his troops from sinkivka in the direction of yampolivka and terni. and will develop the offensive in the future across the estuary to also. of the kramatorsk-slavic agglomeration, that is , the tactics are not new, the enemy is trying to use all the same tactics by going lightly on the flanks, but now i want to note that he does not have any success in the lemano-kupian direction, there we manage to hold the front, on on the other hand, heavy battles are going on in the direction of bakhmut, namely in

ivanivsk, where the key goal of the further success of the enemy's offensive is being decided there, we really have three minutes, i won't give more, because we clearly have to move on to another program, therefore, the prospects of the battle during the yar era , the enemy will, i understand, rush there with all their might, so that there are few of them left before the elections, but i understand that they want to take this to open up an operational space for themselves further. well, look, i look at this story , i completely agree with my brother, because for them the issue of kramatorsk will be very important, time is the key to two sides, konstantinivka and kramatorsk, at the same time in kramatorsk instead of preparing defensive lines, tenders for restoration are announced today market of kramatorsk, and a very big tenger, now they are planting christmas trees near the city council of kramatorsk, well, what else can i say about this story, as far as the elections are concerned, i can

say that there are very big risks in kupinsk, why? it will be symbolic for the russians to grab a piece of the kharkiv region and insert into their constitution that kharkiv region is also russia, and for and... there will be, so to speak, the next reflection on svo-2, yes, that is, zaporizhzhia, kherson, well, kharkiv, if they include kharkiv region as a territory in their constitution russia, and they can do it, they will capture two villages and they will tell, so you have to pay attention to this too, the kupany direction is also very important, well, it is so, well, actually, all the more so, as you know, today we just talked with kharkiv oblast there , and they said that this russian epso is about the fact that kharkiv will be captured tomorrow. thousands of citizens have left since the beginning of the year, on the one hand, this is not the whole city, but on the other hand, well, kharkiv, on the other hand, there are not 5 million in kharkiv , we also understand, 100,000 people say shelling, well, shelling is always there, but here such an ipso, well, we all can, but we saw the beginning of the war, which forces pushed on kharkiv, thank god they didn’t take it, in a few words, as

an average viewer, i don’t like the word average, a good ukrainian who watches us, to fight back from this epso , how to distinguish it, well, literally 40 seconds, but it signs. to espresso tv channels , we subscribe to my youtube channel, we subscribe to normal people, we don't believe liars who talk about two or three days, two or three weeks, and we will be happy, that's the most important thing, we need to be able to analyze the situation, the one that is happening, the issue of the safety of citizens, of course, these are the feelings that the russians will play on, and as for kharkiv oblast, by the way, now odessa is also being talked about transnistria and about the fact that they will enter odessa and so on , well, don't be fooled by this nonsense, listen to the official ones. sources of the armed forces of ukraine, ask the volunteers, those of your brothers who are on the front lines, and listen to the normal news, thank you very much, mr. igor, igor lapin, major of the armed forces of ukraine, special officer, people's deputy of the eighth convocation, and we will now summarize the interim results, because i will be with you for another hour , you will bear with me, so do you expect

the end of us aid in the event of trump's victory, we asked you about this today, let's see if 49% , yes. and 51% no, well i'm surprised, i think mostly, 49, that is 49% of the scales expect an end to the victory of the us, still 51% believe that there will be no end to the aid, donald trump and well and formed if he he will defeat the government, there he will further help ukraine, and thank you, thank you, so i am with you for the second hour there will be oleksiy holobutskyi, viktor boberenko, serhiy tiran, cool guests, cool experts. stay with us, now bbc news ukraine , let's see, then continue, tired of heavy and bulky saws,

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we work, i work in this situation, well, with my colleagues, of course, who prepare our, our air, we have the second part, and before introducing the guests, i offer to your attention a short announcement of what will actually be discussed. agency network, investigator. kket claims that there are fsb agents among ukrainian politicians and public activists. whose names can be spun? maidan 3 remains on the agenda. ukrainians are warned about a disinformation campaign against zelenskyi. who can be declared provocateurs? trumpists in the us congress continue to block american aid to ukraine. what can be expected in the event of trump's victory in the... election, well, actually, we asked

you today, our dear viewers, if you expect you are the termination of us aid in the event of trump's victory, well, we haven't received aid yet, we believe that we will get it, but i can't see well, but in my opinion we are now, and we will announce the intermediate results then, well, there was more, until things that were interesting, there were more people who expected that there would be help than those who expected that... there would be no help, this is positive, but even here on youtube we have voting, by the way, you can here too vote, 45% believe that there may be an end to aid, 55% believe that no, even for... aid to ukraine will continue and in the future, well, as long as the war continues on one scale or another, now it continues on a full-scale, as they say, scale , it is a big war, it is not a frozen conflict, there is not an anti-terrorist movement, it is a war, a big war, and in this war we live, and we will talk about it, with us oleksiy holobutsky,

political scientist, deputy director of the situation modeling agency, mr. oleksiy, i congratulate you, i know that mr. oleksiy is a flight... technologist, it is not possible, but here i can write political technologist, mr. oleksiy holobutskyi. thank you, thank you, and we have serhii tiran, a political scientist, and also, let's stop at that. ok, ok, so be it, political scientist, and we will also be joined by viktor, and there is, viktor bobarenko, political scientist, expert, policy analysis bureau. mr. viktor, i greet you from the indomitable sumy region. good health to you. yes , i, let's start with the fact that i ... ask you to answer this question: do you expect the end of us aid in the event of trump's victory, yes or no, mr. oleksiy, your first answer, well, based on the fact that trump did during his first presidency, then , well, probably not that he will help, it's just that you can

expect a slightly different version of help in ukraine from him. okay, what else, i think, we will find out in the course of our broadcast, and that's how we proceed serhii, mr. serhii, what do you think? well, in short, hopefully we'll discuss this in detail later, i think that after trump's apparent return to office, a huge geopolitical bargain will be attempted, with russia, possibly with some other actors, but mostly with russia, and here is the argument... there during the negotiations there will be the weapons that the united states will or will not provide to ukraine, so the fact that weapons will be a factor in this game is clear, but will this geopolitical game end with the cessation the provision of military aid , here i doubt it, it may, for example, absolutely easily happen that trump will not agree on anything with

putin and support for ukraine may even be renewed on a larger scale, so weapons will play a role here, but definitely... answers to i don't know your question exactly i think that even trump does not know these answers to your question. and, mr. viktor, what do you think about this? so, in what i confirm serhiy's words, i don't know what will happen, even trump, only the lord god knows what will happen, but trump, well, firstly, he is a populist, secondly, he eccentric, he is passionate, but, uh,... in the united states, the role of the individual in history is not as decisive as in the same russia, and therefore i think there are institutions at work, trump is not the only one who will shape the policy of the united states in relation to ukraine, and after all, the republicans still have a lot of people

who remember not only mccain, but also remember reagan, yes, and that's why... the republicans will not leave us without support and , accordingly, trump will have to pay attention to this and the second thing yes, they will not agree with putin, this is clearly because, well, trump is a supporter of easy solutions, like let's sit down and decide, but with putin, one of our politicians already tried to come to an agreement through mediation, and we know that this... happened, yes even trump will not reach an agreement through mediation. yes, well, and then he will take our side. yes, i will remind ours to the audience that it was under trump that russian fighter jets were struck in syria. it was because of trump that ukraine received weapons, it was because of trump that the wagnerites were destroyed in syria, there from black hawk helicopters, well, it was because of his presidency, i just want

to remind you, because someone thinks that trump is so peaceful, but he is not peaceful at all. now they are russian dogs. now i am following the words of oleksiy danilov and here i would believe him, obviously he is voicing real numbers, because it is not, well, there is no need to manipulate or invent anything, it is there how much there is 166 or how many millions of posts, pro-russian or russian, appear online per month, i think per month, if i am not mistaken, 166 million, it is about ipso, how the russians work, but... not because ukrainians are warning about a disinformation campaign against zelenskyi, here i would expand this issue a little, because not only against zelenskyi, but also disinformation about the situation at the front, i read about this yesterday from colonel general. oleksandr syrsky, commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, he also writes about this, that you should be careful, because the russians will say whatever you want to say about avdiyivka, bakhmut there, ugledar, robotin and so on, is russia really investing

in this ipso now and what is it mainly for, what is it mainly aimed at, and is there really a link to that the time will soon come when the 5 years of zelskyi's presidency will expire, well, we all understand that he will be the president, but you can play on that, mr. oleksiy. well, the russian pso has been working in ukraine, well, seriously, since 2005, since 2006, and huge amounts of money have been invested, created there were networks, there were serious political lobbyists, so, to be honest, there is nothing new here in principle, it was spent, how efficiently it was spent is another question, how effective it is now is also a question. but they are spent, of course, and we lived in russian narratives for years, we consumed russian, russian content,

no one saw any problem in this, absolutely, all those people still influence cultural policy and information policy in one way or another countries, they just think that if, that it can be done in one month or in one year to change that war. of course, this is a huge shock for the population, but there are certain cultural codes that even such shocking circumstances do not change, do not change people's ideas about the same russia or ukraine in one day, and this is a vivid example, for example, great popularity of the russian tv series, the word "boys" last year in ukraine, that's all... in the results of the work that russia is conducting, and this is what we see all the time, what happened, i constantly see my colleagues, so-called and not so-called, which

stand absolutely, well, supposedly on patriotic positions, moreover, they work in the pools of opposition politicians, of course, who every day talk about navalny, about how many flowers there were, something else, so to speak, it all works too, this too, this too, this is also a russian psok. no matter what we say there, that is, we constantly want to see some, well, that is, we fundamentally, many people fundamentally still do not perceive russia as an enemy, they perceive as an enemy only the ruling, so to speak, the top there, putin and a few more people, and in principle, russians are more or less normal people, that's why this general assembly, but regarding the legitimacy of the president... and all other questions, well, yes, legal disputes continue here, but the question is not the problem only in constitutional powers,

in the perception of legitimacy in such a simple version, yes, that is, by people, that is , a certain part of people who do not like zelensky, or who believe that zelensky is doing something wrong, for them this will be a certain point in independence from moreover, it will be the result of the work of the russian ips. or simply as a result of the fact that, well , really, well, i read interviews of lawyers, i'm not a lawyer, who talk about this seriously enough about the problems that really exist and the ways to solve these problems, apparently the president's office is also thinking about this, but then again, we've already been through such a moment, let 's remember what operation shatun was called there, yes, now it will be called operation maidan-3 or something else, well, that's normal. the practice of any power, when, when, say yes, her rating is starting to decrease and some problems are appearing, looking for a part

of her problems to transfer to internal enemies, which is very good, if it can be framed as sponsored or supported or in some other way by russia, it is very good, you know, i will stop right here for a bit now, because it is important to understand , but we will talk with mr. serhiy, because i clearly understand that the constitution provides for certain things, but we have never had a big war, maybe now we need to prescribe some governments national unity, some government salvation, i don’t know, that is, then we have to think, if the constitution says 5 years and that’s all, and it doesn’t say anything else, well, it’s not written in the constitution, we understand that this is how the president is needed and he should be, he is the supreme commander-in-chief, he has been in this war for two years, regardless of who loves him, who does not love him, and again, he will not be the president, stefanchuk continued. well, come on, let him try to be the supreme commander, and then the question, here is the question, is to leave everything as it is, because there will surely be someone who will exclaim the king no

real, but what will it change, well, we globally understand that it will not change anything, there is a war, and it must be won, everything, mr. sergey, in your opinion, what steps can be taken here, or is it simply necessary to close the question and say, we live like this, well, that’s it, this is the situation here, although the constitution says about 5 years, well, but here we are now, well, i won’t say, to understand the consequences of any of our words and conclusions, if suddenly someone to raise the issue of the legitimacy of the current government, it means that... new elections must be held, well who can now organize safe democratic elections in ukraine, and no one, so now it is obvious that the government will remain as it is, and any talk about its illegitimacy, they will be, well, in fact , very, very harmful to what is happening now in ukraine, because it will undermine the legitimacy of ukrainian institutions in general, so now, while the war is going on, while the time of war is going on, i think that any

questions about the illegitimacy of the current government are completely inappropriate and can actually be used by russia. when you talk about the government national trust is another matter. by the way, i have been saying this for a long time, that when during the war the authorities had to make difficult decisions, well, for example, related to mobilization or related to some other things that the state was forced to do there, although it completely unpopular things, then a government of national trust is needed. moreover, it would be... very so beautiful and right if, in time of war, the authorities would initiate at the very beginning of the war, the great war, a government of national trust, because it would be a signal for the world, that ukrainians are united, that they will not engage in political struggle, and there will be no political struggle, because the government of national unity is when all the political forces of the country unite in one government, including the opposition there is no one in particular , there is no one to criticize, so it would be

the right step, but it has nothing to do with this issue of the so-called legitimacy or illegitimacy of president zelensky, this is another issue, completely different, and i believe that in principle national government unity could be created, it would be a very good signal, because actually sometimes, you know, we say that we don't have politics, but sometimes politics is cut through by some violations, selective violations of the right position or that in us, for example, there is still no freedom of speech in issues where... it could be, well, for example, not military issues, but issues that touch on corruption, issues that touch on those things that are needed in the country to strengthen our defense, because there, for example, it was not needed to introduce censorship, and we have it in the form of, well, the so-called single telethon, that is why, in fact, these issues are political, but i would like them to be less, and a government of national trust - it would be such a good answer to all of these the question

, well, as for what... what russia will do and use the so-called legitimacy or illegitimacy of the authorities as ibso, i have no doubt about it, russia has been waging information wars against ukraine for more than a year, it will not even be the first ten years information wars. moreover, this war has always been called a hybrid in our country precisely because of this information component, so there is no news here, simply to distinguish between russia's information war and the discussion of urgent problems that are really needed in ukraine. for this we need to learn how to react somehow, well, for example, by canceling this information policy in the form of a single marathon, for example, by allowing a certain discussion on some issues that affect, for example, changes and reforms in ukraine, and not only there issues of the military, regarding military issues, censorship should definitely remain there , that is clear, but what if it touches on things other than military issues, then it would be possible to allow more freedom, more discussions, and if this

... was, then there would also be room for russian there would be fewer information operations, because there would be no sensation in the nonsense that russia says, and yes, of course, it will launch these informational provocations, it will always launch them, and you just need to be able to separate them from the reality, in what are we we live, and understand that during the war , any enemy in times of hybrid war will give only the information that is beneficial to him, therefore all the information that comes from russian sources, any that touches the government, that touches the opposition, has to be perceived precisely that any information that comes from the enemy is part of the information war, and accordingly it should be perceived as a threat of aggression, if we learn to perceive it in this way, then the effectiveness of all these ipso will be minimal, you know, i once i even remember writing a humorous poem there was supposed to be a coup there on december 1, i don't remember what year, there will be a holiday on december 1, there will be a coup, well, nothing happened there, but i...