says, if this discussion took place, there would be less space for russian information operations, because there would be no sensation in the nonsense that russia says, and yes, of course, it will launch these informational provocations, there will always be them launch, and you just need to be able to separate them from the reality in which we live, and understand that during the war, any enemy in times of hybrid war will give only the information that is beneficial to him, therefore, all the information that is... . from russian sources, any that touches the authorities, that touches the opposition, it should be perceived precisely that any information that comes from the enemy, it is part of the information war, and accordingly it should be perceived as a threatening aggression, if we learn to perceive it in this way, then the effectiveness of all these ipso will be minimal, you know, i once even remember a humorous poem i wrote about december 1 , when there was supposed to be a coup there, i don't remember what year there, that december 1 will be a holiday, there will be a coup, well, nothing happened there, but... you just know , when you read

about maidan, maidan 3, well, first of all, that's it maidan 4, because we had a student maidan, the orange revolution and the revolution of dignity, this is already the fourth maidan, but why parasitize a sacred topic for many ukrainians, call it anti-maidan 3, or something, well, the first anti-maidan was for yanukovych, the second the anti-maidan was somewhere there by the ato, and let this be the third anti-maidan, mr. viktor, i would like you to tell me about this very topic, why do these scarecrows, use... or the name, which is a holiday for many ukrainians, because in the maidan globally up to 12 million ukrainians took part, well , directly, that is, directly, or indirectly in 2013-14, please, yes mr. vik, well, this is the case with us , just when e maidan is threatened maidan 3 is threatened by those who was at the anti-maidan, yes , i mean... i mean there were all kinds of tatars and in

the president's office there were many people who were at the anti-maidan, or at least supported that side, including quarter 95 not far from that, we went too we remember ebnite sticks, and what i will say, very often it is beneficial for the president's office to warm up this topic, because there are some unknowns here and there. we know their names, but these are some unknown people , well, they are unknown for now, they don’t tell us the names that they want to promote, will put the legitimacy of the president in doubt, who are these people, because well, if they are in the opposition, maybe it poroshenko, no, the eu fully supported that they will absolutely consider it legitimate there, that is, if it is not european solidarity, that it is not the remnants of the vote, then who

is it? opzzh sits there quietly, quietly and evenly , so that they are not touched and so that they did not end up nearby, well, either they were not arrested for nothing, as medvedchuk once was, or this one, gentlemen, like him, well, you understood, yes, yes, yes, shufrych, so as not to end up in the same cell with shufrych, then no one will take risks, that is, there is no one in the parliament.

in the film, ivan vasyliovych is changing his profession , it is clear that this is their goal, which is exactly what it is, and well, as we wanted, propaganda works, yes, that is the role of propaganda, so that, er, we must do everything so that we have patriots, and there are pacifists , they make a mirror so that we have demotivation to go to fight, so that we stand here pacifists, they cursed the government even better , but in... they rally their patriotism there, but between us, who gives a reason for all these doubts, for demotivation there, who gives a reason, you just don’t do it there, don’t create corruption, explain the situation, get out, talk to society as adults, and then explain in the end what you were charged for. and all the rest of the steps

are explained by the government, which does not speak for society, but really speaks through a censored single marathon. how smart people don't trust, but we understand that this involves fooling a significant part of the population in order to keep them, if, well, we have, we have, we have an unpleasant situation, when, yes, russia will do a marathon, but they will scare society with a marathon, oh , a marathon, gentlemen, try to move aside , well, we don’t mention the surname, but guess who it is poroshenko, yes, or someone else, although they directly declare that he is not there, and i am here and here we are

they started with the fact that i am one of those who do not like zelensky, systematically, there i am the opponent, well, i... fight corruption there , yes, as best i can, our organization is also there, i criticize the government, but i will never invite anyone to the maidan, because i will consider that this is precisely the anti-maidan, so there will be no maidan , there are no normal ones, first of all, passionarians are almost all in the war, those who are not in the war, but in memory, they understand that it is impossible to shake it or it, and, but i understand, i say that the main ones who scatter black , we have. the social agreement that we do not compete with each other, yes, but this social agreement is being violated precisely by the office of the president, it is systematically violated, that is, let them stop violating this social agreement, and it will work, and we

will be united in the fight against russia, and then russia will not scatter us with any ipso, they shout, they say that they will invest a lot of money there, whatever they did not invest the money. this is the case where money won't work if we are united. i absolutely support you, i remember, i think you too, from the first time we came on november 30, i think there was a meeting there on mykhailivska square, and then on december 1 there was already a million march, and i also don’t understand, and who wouldn't say anything well, where, well, where to go now, well, now we have to solve the main problem, which is to expel the enemy from our land, but all the other things there , legitimacy and illegitimacy, let the lawyers decide, in any case, whoever decides there, everything should be for strengthening the defense. capabilities of the country, victory over the enemy, and not for the realization of political interests, that is why we have a president and supreme commander, military leadership, we are working with this, but now it is a very important topic, which means that among ukrainian politicians, law enforcement officers and public activists there are many of those who

cooperated with the russian fsb before the large-scale invasion - said the head of the berlinkat project khrestogroziv. having promised to publish a new investigation in the near future, let's listen. there are a lot of people who were political activists in pro-liberal organizations and even in organizations funded by western foundations, who also met and probably received money or something else, but most likely money from the fifth department of the fsb. some of them were supervised by the gru, some by the fifth department of the fsb. now we are not we see their activity in favor of the russians. of the occupying power, we see on the contrary that they take a pro-ukrainian position, maybe something has changed inside them, i am not sure how much information should be published about them, their names, maybe they are defending their country, well,

the investigation should be made public in the near future, well here it is these activists, organizations financed by western funds, received. money from the fifth department, how about let's do it, i won't ask any difficult questions there, here is this information from hristo groziva, in principle, a person who has proven his adequacy and professionalism in the field of journalistic investigations, and how to react to it, what kind of investigation can we get, and again, here is this investigation now, what can it affect, for example, mr. oleksiy , a question for you. the fact that we have a huge number of people who are recruited by the russian special services is an absolute fact, i told about this, for example, about my own story after, after this statement by grozev, and in

the 13th year, i accidentally found myself on one conference, it turned out that way, and after that... i talked with the russian atsh about culture, well, we consumed alcoholic beverages, and after a certain time i realized that he, well, in principle , it is absolutely logical, that he is not at all... cultural and still an employee of the fsb, and i understood from his communication that practically everyone at that conference was recruited in one way or another or cooperated with the russian special services, these are people whom we saw every day on tv at that time, who were bloggers, journalists, and everything , whatever, so to speak, some of them coincided after the 14th year, some coincided after an already... full-scale war, some still work, that is, not some, but most of them, still work, influence and so on, and in

principle, if he really called a certain number of such people, it would be positive for the country, but the problem is simply trusting grozyu himself, that today i talked about this topic with borislav bereza and i say, oh well, it's good if we trust him, and if in the list will be you or me, for example, yes? if, for example, how he poured into the investigation according to wagner, he is the same, well, now he just opened an auction there, who will pay him more, what surnames should be entered there, for example, yes, this is a very cynical world, and to be honest, after navalny, i am poisoning things, i understand that groziv is in such, such a crisis, yes, he has reached some very high level. recognition, information, and after that nothing serious happened to him, he is constantly looking for some

topics that, perhaps for completely normal professional, so to speak, reasons, perhaps for some other reasons, today he declared, apparently, this information did not really raise his views on youtube, so to speak , today he announced more sensational news, after which the fact that you... but somehow i became more doubtful, this is how he announced that in march 22 bashirov and petrov, well-known poisoners, yes, poisonous violinists, came to kyiv, to ukraine, to kill zelensky, and to be honest, i understand that after the navalny case, the russian special services give the impression of complete morons , well, to be so morons as to send people, who knows... the whole world for the organization or execution of such a very serious mission, it is

on the one hand, on the other hand, what evidence of this will be provided, we too, that is, the main thing here is to constantly hype, so constantly hype, and if really from the names of those bloggers, activists and so on who work for russia will appear and there will be at least some evidence, well, this could really become a scandal, that no one, listen, we are all sitting, we are all... convinced, well, i hope so, and i know everyone personally that we are not on that list, yes, but there may be surprises, we will go now for a short time, by the way, bashirov and petrov went to the saltzberiz cathedral there, but they did not go to ukraine, but why bother bringing them here, they are really great there, so these killers, we will now go on a short break, and then we will continue this conversation, i will already invite mr. serhiy and mr. viktor to comment on groziv's statement. what to do in order not to get sick?

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represents. united by football, stronger together. by the way, here is the advertisement of the national team , the team composition for the playoff match was announced, which will be there against bosnia and herzegovina, if we win further, or iceland or israel, but i will not talk about it now, rebrov has already decided that who will go to protect the colors of the national team, but now we are talking about the protection of the global ukrainian national glasses both on the battlefield and in politics, we talked about this here this... information from hristo groziv, that he will soon make a disclosure about which of the ukrainian politicians, activists, certain organizations that receive money from the west, received money from the fsb, and mr. serhiy, you know this, well, i will not mention this the president's bad joke, when he was still a humorist , he once, you remember, in jurmala, if i'm not mistaken, in riga, made this bad

joke, well, it's a bad joke, i think it can be recalled, right here such a thing, when there... they presented ukraine as the one that takes from of all parties, but, well, it was, it was disgusting , offensive, but that’s how the screenwriters wrote it then, i understand, for volodymyr zelenskyi, who was not yet the president at the time, and this is about those people who take from all sides, but already in in the direct sense from the west, and from the fsb, mr. serhiy , in your opinion, this is an investigation of hristo groziv , who needs it, because mr. oleksiy, i absolutely agree with him, he correctly said that the crisis of the genre needs, as they say, and popularity first of all to earn, here, and well , plus there are some others. things, and again anyway, that's why the logical question is, who is it, who would, relatively speaking, pay for it, well, let's say, honestly, yes, well, let's say honestly, that there is nothing, there is only a statement, and hristo groziv, as a very experienced investigator and a journalist perfectly understands that if such statements are made, then it is already a matter of professional honor for

the person who makes this statement to continue the investigation and name the name, if he does not do this, then it will look somehow very frivolous, it will already look like a person is looking for hype, which i hope is not the case of hristo grozil, so let's wait for the investigation and wait for specific names and then we can draw conclusions about who paid whom, when, what and who is interested in it. i would really like such statements to always be accompanied by investigations with... surnames, and these surnames should also be accompanied by very specific facts and evidence, because if tomorrow simply names appear without evidence, then this will also look like somewhat frivolously, it will look like political technology. i believe that the ukrainian state should now be very interested in the fact that

groziev's investigation did take place, and specific names and specific facts were named. because the people he theoretically talks about have not gone anywhere, and somewhere they are probably doing some work of their own, or will do it someday, so of course ukraine needs to know what was really there, if of course it was, and we we understand very well that in the ukrainian state, in all spheres of its time, russia introduced a lot of agents, well, that is understandable, and many of them are probably left, so we would like to know who it is and how, and therefore we are waiting for an investigation, if there is such an investigation again, i think, to be honest, that there will not be any large-scale revelations. if only because the people groziev mentioned are supposedly liberal and took money from western funds, they cannot speak directly about russian theses, so it could

theoretically be some separate information operations to discredit someone, including from pro-european politicians, but i doubt that it was all yes, too much of a mass phenomenon, but then again, i wouldn't want to do the work instead of groziev. and instead of him to speculate on this topic, so let's wait when he, being a responsible journalist and investigator, would already say, if he already said a, well, and even more so, if we are talking about political activists, there about liberal organizations and so on, bloggers, as mr. oleksii said, well, they will say that he took money from the fsb, and that, he is not in office, he does not make any decisions, and people will say, well, yes, here we are we always knew that he was like that, we guessed, but now you see, that's all, mr. viktor, once again, will there be, as they say, some dry residue from this, and is it just, well, so that we they talked

to the president there, maybe somewhere in the office, not even the president, i think he doesn’t think about it, someone will think, yes, who is so interesting there , maybe it’s you, he says, no, but definitely not me, well please, god, let it be over with us, because the situation is really like this, if grozdiv keeps silent and for, he said, and he has to say, if he doesn't say, then everyone will remain guessing, and in the president's office it will be used again against, let's say there, no, no, not the parliamentary opposition, yes, what can be called, there anti-corruptionists, let's say, but they are still the same type there, he grozil said that they are all sitting on the fsb's heads and undermining the authority of the office. of president zelenskyi, and zelenskyi repeatedly said there, including even before the war there and at the security conference, that corruption has been overcome in our country, everyone is like that, but they are shaking

the chevna, they, in the same place as maidan 3, so if well, but let's consider another situation, and if grozdiv will be called by surnames there, i 'm interested, because, for example, i'm not you... i was also once produced, but there was a different way and a long time ago, as there is no anti-corruption officer , and i would be interested in colleagues in the workshop, because i also have, had many grants, and now there are grants from international funds, i will tell you by the way that the ukrainian choice of medvedchuk was also guaranteed , including with international revival fund, they guaranteed him some kind of conference there, even so... it was, well, but what if this is a cool well-thought-out operation by the gru or the fsb, yes, the main

administrative department of the ministry of defense, and if they are now swindling and they pushed it, well, we have a hundred percent guarantee that he says: look, this is how the money went , we are somewhere there, and it is not provoked by the russians themselves, well there, well, who knows, but even then there is something to prove. because, for example, those, if he calls some name, conditionally pupkin some, and we are there, oh, pupkin, we thought that pupkin is an anti-corruption officer, he is in the fsb worked, and pupkin will give his excuse , that he was written down, specially there by the fsb colonels, in that list, and that it is all a provocation, for example, the same, and therefore really, i agree with my colleagues about what and how. .. if there are any arguments from grozdiv, because if there are no arguments, then all this will only play into the hands of moscow

and those who want anti-corruption here, well, names will be drowned, disgraced, yes, then grozdiv must have such arguments that are irrefutable that we will know for sure what happened to pupkin we don't give pupkin a hand anymore, at least, you know, but even here, look, if... to say what you said about recruitment, they recruited show business figures very actively, in fact, there are journalists, maybe there are athletes, someone else, i don't know, well, public figures , this is a practice from soviet times, we understand it perfectly, but at one time president zelensky said that this is how we will get this money for russia, well, they received money from the state budget from the ministry of culture of the russian federation , give them to the russians, what should we do, no - explains zelenskyi, well, now we can also say that you, who turns out to be... do you need money from the main release department, you just didn't understand, and what are we going to say now, let's go, of course , that no one will run away, that's why it's such a story that you can invent and weave anyone you want from those who ...

took money from us literally there at a moment's notice, because there's almost no time left, but let's summarize about trump anyway, we asked whether aid to ukraine would stop or not will stop if trump becomes president, but while he is not president, but influences johnson, they will sell aid to ukraine now, because it is on fire, literally every minute, mr. oleksiy, well, after the meeting of all the heads of all chambers of congress with biden, so with there was hope. that johnson was given yes, this is absolutely not confirmed, but there is such an opinion, they gave guarantees that he, because he fights, well, he is under pressure from trump and under the fact that after he is about in this, my god, house of representatives, simple will put this bill to a vote, that he will be removed from office, but that it will also require the votes of the democrats, and that he

is guaranteed that the democrats voted. for his resignation, there will be no, and he can safely put it to a vote, besides, there is also the possibility, if 215 votes are found in the house of representatives, to completely bypass his function regarding whether or not to allow the bills to be put to a vote, yes sir sergey, your opinion, in general, while trump is not the president, but he is actively influencing at least on the wing of certain republicans in the house of representatives. will aid to ukraine pass, well, not in august, but preferably there when there, well, at least until the beginning of april? well, for today i tend to think that it will pass, but in a reduced form, and every time there are other things related to the aid to ukraine, the same situations will arise, until the presidential election campaign of the united states continues , however, i would like to emphasize here

another story in connection with trump, that we must now... already be prepared for the fact that in late autumn , well, at the beginning of winter, when there will theoretically be a new president and there is a very high probability that it will be trump, there will be an attempt at a major geopolitical reorganization, and trump will certainly participate in it, he will try in some way to talk with putin, other geopolitical actors who have their own interests will try to play a role in this, and ukraine needs to be ready for this, so that all these agreements that... account of the interests of ukraine. for this, it is necessary to significantly strengthen the presence in the united states, and this, by the way, for both politicians and ukrainian experts, and in general it is necessary to go out, we have 30 seconds, mr. viktor, give you a little more time, then they will vote or not , i think they will vote everything will be fine, i'm confident and optimistic, thank you

very much for joining, thank you for your support. political technologist, deputy director of the situation modeling agency, viktor boberenko, political scientist, expert of the bureau of policy analysis, and serhii taran, political scientist, were with us at communication, we are now, thank you very much, wonderful guests, wonderful professional comments, summing up the results of the survey, we asked you today whether aid to ukraine will be stopped if donald trump becomes the president of the united states of america, i honestly do not see , my eyesight is bad, i’m definitely not a sniper, but 49 yes, 51. no, that is, 49% only believe that , well, they are convinced that if he becomes president, there will be no help, but still , the majority of ukrainians, despite everyone believes that trump will not only make america great again, but it will also help the country, thank you for being with us, verdict program, i'll see you tomorrow, take care, goodbye.

greetings to everyone from espresso, i'm on yavamelniki and it's time to learn about the most relevant events at the moment: the number of victims of russian attacks is increasing. a woman who was injured by the shelling of muscovites on february 15 died in a hospital in the kharkiv region. oleg synigu, the head of the region, informed. a 55-year-old resident of the village of chorne, kupyan district, came under enemy fire in her own house. all the time she was in a difficult condition. doctors fought for her life, but unfortunately could not be saved. in this way, russia killed four people at that time. blocked in her own apartment in kherson due to another enemy shelling.