well, at least you remember how the president said , you need to keep a cool head , hold on, be patient a little and it will warm up, well, as a result of the warming, this blockade was extended for a month, at least the polish blockaders promised, well, in this case, i think, that we already had many such promises, and the war did not end in two or three weeks, many other things, i don't want to remind myself of it now, but we just have to act wisely, we still a... either ignore it, or act emotionally , we are in trouble, and maybe we will have a month, sir volodymyr, maybe really, maybe these elections on april 7 are local, and that’s it, and after that he will let go, at least those players who are parasites on it, there are confederation types and so on, then there will be elections to the european parliament, after that, well, that is, there will be such elections a lot, i believe that we just need to shift the emphasis, the excellent option that was proposed in recent days, the problem is not in... ukrainian grain, primarily in

russian and belarusian, if we define it as the main way out of the situation, but ukrainian grain is transiting or leaving in general there by sea, it is possible to remove external irritants, but i will emphasize once again that the problem is not in this single irritant, the problem is much deeper, and we are not able to shape the agenda of polish-ukrainian relations, as warsaw is waiting for, not with solutions, but simply to discuss so that they see that they are serious partners. that we and poland are together for a very long period of time and there is no need to be afraid of competition or any opposition, on the contrary, look for what unites us. mr. volodymyr, would you still like to, you used to take care very seriously infrastructure, logistics, transport, there is also the topic of transporters, we remember that there were blockades of transporters, farmers, and there were times when they came together, and today the european commission put forward such a proposal...

to continue, you remember , there was an agreement at the beginning of the invasion, in fact visa-free transport for ukraine, and we were grateful for such an act of solidarity, but we are not members of the eurozone, here we suddenly play virtually quota-free almost as per the rules of carriers of eu countries, and today they say that it can contribute there were some changes, and it seemed to fulfill certain requirements of polish carriers. do you know anything else that would save this situation? not yet, but it is certain that poland, not only poland, will make the most of the situation in order to obtain some preferences in trade with ukraine and in the european union market in general. in my deep conviction, here the ukrainian government should stand not a step back, just as our troops are standing in the east, not letting the russians through, because... if we refuse this or that

in the form of transport visa-free, or from transport visa-free, only the name will remain, in fact, we will return to quotas and restrictions, this is a big step back, this is a big political loss, and here we are all like that, let's say the news that comes out of brussels, as if we have to copy it right there , do not allow their distribution and do not allow conversations about the fact that the transport visa exemption can be either revised or canceled. we just need to have normal bilateral talks. very well at one time they already said literally in the last few days that in fact bilateral negotiations between ukraine and poland on ukraine's accession to the european union began. if we look at this problem from this point of view, we will dispel a lot of illusions for ourselves and we will be able to find a solution. yes, mr. volodymyr, we agree with you, as they say, 1500%. volodymyromy. the former

minister of infrastructure of ukraine, now a serviceman of the armed forces of ukraine, thank you for your service and thank you for participating in our program, you are watching the verdict of serhiy rudenko program without serhiy rudenko, to whom we wish recovery, and on his behalf we ask you all, this is the idea, announced by the prime minister of ukraine, to reduce the number of ministries by a third , if you support it, please cast your vote on the first phone number, and if not, on the second one, we, in particular, heard volodymyr omylyan's opinion, well, then we will continue communication with the political scientist, head of the unified coordination center platform, oleg sahakyan, in connection with our studio, mr. oleg, congratulations, good evening, congratulations, glad to see and hear, well, we ask everyone, and we ask you too , because you also have the right to vote and the answers to our question, the drying up of otstra has a third less ministries, some of the functions will not be performed by a minister at all. how do you

feel about this idea? not very positive, i would say yes, because the very principle of reducing ministries seems to me to be vicious. whether it is necessary to reform the civil service absolutely, whether it is necessary to reform the structure of the cabinet of ministers with both hands, but this is not a question of quantity, this is the very last thing that should be determined, if the task is simply to reduce the number, then this means that they are either completely ignored or not communicated, but covertly imply some wider changes inside, ah, and then the question arises that they simply most likely do not understand at all what the tasks are now and... what the challenges are in front of the cabinet of ministers, of course, that is, you see with this idea what soviet people once listened to on tv and knew as the word perestroika, and for some reason it sends us to the old bearded joke about furniture and not only, remember, he wanted with you

to talk about a very sensitive thing , to which, in principle, the answer should not be so public, but since it is the price of life and national security, it is sensitive, let's start with... let's start with the german espionage scandal, by the way, it was started by margarita simonyan, this is the black mouth of rashi over there, but after that the germans first said yes , it was, then they said no, it was fake, then they said, it was, but they were discussing the alleged strikes of alleged german taurus on the kerch bridge, and we don't have those taurus. and here we are we sit and think where the legs of all this scandal are growing from, because it seems that there is none, but it seems to confirm, well, listen, simanyanyan is generally such a classic draining father for such information, already in the west they even learned such a specific

word for the western ear as babraetka, and i even met him in english and latin in the western press, and therefore, let's say this... the specifics of the information were chosen, it is clear that these are the russian special services, they worked in this way, why was this done in order to undermine the issue of giving the taurus to ukraine now. it is obvious that in germany the elites and society have come close to a certain psychological barrier, beyond which there may be an attempt, as they say, to put sticks in the wheels, but look how interesting, because the minister of defense of germany, boris pistorius, he is actually about this about who told, maybe someone was at work today and did not hear, then we will remind you what the german minister of defense said. the reason this conversation between air force officers could have been intercepted is due to individual error. not all participants complied

secure connection procedures as intended. according to available information , a data breach occurred through a participant in singapore. he joined because of nesankci. as you know, the singapore air show was held in singapore, which was attended by, in particular, high-ranking military personnel from european partner countries, which was obviously exactly what the russian special services were waiting for. targeted electronic eavesdropping was conducted in hotels. so we have to assume that access to this webex conference was a serendipitous find of the within the limits of a large-scale operation. on an almost ready-made script for netflix, yes, but in this case this whole scandal, it really shook the political and military elites, in germany, in some direction to provide taurus

long-range missiles to german ukraine, or on the contrary rejected them and even further, no, no , don’t give, well, as scholz says, i think that with this russia... even more lost part of the german elites, who, well, obviously see this as a serious slap that russia gave to germany, german institutions, elites and special services . next to that, inside of german society, if we are talking about the electoral division, then unfortunately, i think that this russian provocation will have a limited effect. currently , the situation with taurus is quite difficult for us from the point of view of supporting their society. alternative for germany, the right radical political force has quite serious electoral positions, and they actively parasitize on the topic of the russian ukrainian war and russia itself, anti-european, this whole agenda is classic for them, and accordingly, with taurus, the situation not only has

its geopolitical intelligence or military intelligence, but it also has an internal political one, and in this case, for us, there are currently windows of opportunity to painlessly obtain taurus, unfortunately, for now. is not visible, a situation may arise in which we can, well, hypothetically imagine that the issue is being pushed, ukraine receives tauris, there are several dozen, maybe even missiles, but at the same time... we can lose germany, because this situation will be actively exploited precisely by right-wing radicals, pro-russian forces and on the radical left flange, there is a new star among the russians, and accordingly, in this way, the part of the political community that advocates more active support for ukraine may find itself in the negative electoral third, i understand, this is such an amazing, amazing effect of connected vessels, having thus received tau. we can lose all the large-scale support, which we are surprised by, because at the very beginning we remember that germany

passed on fairy tales and said, you hold on, and now they are one of the leaders of support for the armed forces of ukraine, we will get taurus, we will lose a lot of support, a lot of package support, but if we don't keep support, then we still need taurus, well, the tsutswang is kind of good, but it's about some spies, i asked you, but there is another dimension, let's still have a spy. let's look at it in ukrainian , it has already been communicated at all levels, and the supreme commander-in-chief, the president, spoke about it , and in the main directorate of intelligence and the sbu, everyone confirmed in one way or another that the plan of the 23rd counteroffensive, which disappointed some of our allies in its scope and volumes, such was lying in the kremlin even before that counteroffensive began, well, logically, if you don't want to show, to name the name, then... even if i don't know the back of the head there, show the back of the head and the hands are tied, why the spy and the mole who

pissed it all off, until now the security service of ukraine did not report that it detained, well, here i can only make assumptions, because the problem is that the authorities do not communicate, this issue, at least there was no point that all this was investigated, they know from where, how and there are no longer these sources, and why? they cannot answer this question fully, or we do not know the version, i can only skip: the first is that it is possible that counterintelligence measures continue and accordingly cannot demonstrate the result now fully, because there is still, let's say part of the network, which may be under surveillance, respectively, so that not to be alarmed, secondly, this is the version that the leak did not take place on the ukrainian side, but on the side of our allies. who may have had access to a certain part of this plan, or were consulted with them, because

we remember that they did not like that ukraine did not move according to the plan that looked optimal for them, and unfortunately, we also had recent precedents, again with leaks of information from our partners, where the russian federation occasionally, apparently, receives information no more difficult than in ukraine, i.e. you, you think that this is not... the mole sat in us, because we have a rather narrow circle, familiar with such extremely secret information, when the plan is adopted, we understand that this is the rate of the supreme commander-in-chief, there you can count on your fingers, who has access, you do you think that this is acting in the same way as the otc in singapore acted in the hotel, that is, somewhere our partners were informed and somewhere at some stage they could have stolen it, i am right, i only assume the first two versions that it could have been an internal mole and... . have calculated and accordingly continue the measures, this is if we have , the second is if the partners, of course, have a third option,

which we especially do not want to assume, this is if the mole is in some high echelons of power, and then the question is whether this has been removed or not mole, whether it is removed, with or from it access to sensitive information, if , for example, due to some circumstances they cannot now remove the figure from public policy, that is why it is already a matter for the ukrainian special services, for the counterintelligence regime, and it is definitely not their fault... we will not know all this information, if it knew, then the decision price would be our case. olezhe, here in these finno-ugric swamps, which historians called iron lands, well, now it’s a temporary formation of the russian federation, everything is on fire there, my god, why don’t they talk about french president francois macron, and this after he actually, twice, first he, and then his ministers confirmed that it is necessary to... finally open your eyes, see the real threat. today, with such an appeal to the rest of europe, he spoke, and spoke about the unspoken

adil, and spoke about the actual coalition to send the military to ukraine, and it was even discussed what tasks they could perform, that it is not, as they say, not in not infantry troops. unexpectedly , he joined mr. macron's mission. petr pavel, the czech president, is also clearly pro it communicates today, that is, there has been some kind of unexpected french-czech coalition, which appeals to the rest of europe and nato members that come on... do something, because this is no longer, not the news that you watch on tv, this is a real danger, and there are also the baltic countries, and there is also canada, and there are still countries that are refusing for now, i did not say categorically no, so that everyone will be fine, but in etheris we spoke repeatedly, especially after munich, i said that the old paradigm

herself survived, in relation to the russian-ukrainian war, and from this lemon there is nothing to squeeze out, respectively... munyun demonstrated this clearly, what was clear in the expert environment, to those who deal with european security issues, in particular the russian-ukrainian war in communication with our colleagues in european capitals, and accordingly it is only a matter of time was, i said that a new approach would appear, and europe is already pregnant with it, and it was felt, and in particular i said about france and the nuclear status and their exploration of their new role in the european security architecture, and then something happened that... it seemed completely predictable to me, but i expected it later, i'll be honest, and now i'm surprised by how quickly france stepped up to turn the board of the existing game and say: look, the old rules already have exhausted, accordingly , there are no limits now , we are throwing the approach of russia's red lines aside, we have all the tools

on the table, this does not mean that we are ready to use them here and now, it does not mean that we will use them at all, but we have be... ready use them if there is a need, fine oleg, but the inner kitchen of such things is very interesting here, because at one time there were many caricatures even in the same french press about macron hanging on a wire once again, listening to putin for a long time, putin told him some pseudo-story, we remember macron, who was the last dreamer who thought that it was possible to agree on something with russia through putin over the phone, that was one stage. they started saying the second stage, and macron, that's it, that's it, he's just playing around politics, in populism, wants to intercept, to be the first baton there, let scholz be the second, well, that was the explanation, so-so, because he will no longer run for office, he does not have these political and appetites, to play something and play for the next ones elections, so then this transformation, what is its nature,

well, first of all, the first lesson is not to... express boys with a paper clip, especially if they are philosophers and especially if they are part of the french elite, and in the broadest sense of the word. macron is far from independent a figure, but a representative of a whole cohort of the elite, and he was their representative, actually opposed by le pen in order to prevent the right of radicals to power, and macron is a wider political group and a broad consensus behind him. secondly, it is important. to understand the intra-european context now that, according to the apt words of the british minister of defense, the time of dividends from post-war europe is over, and now is the time to invest in defense, because the pre-war era has come, in the post-war dividends money, financial, financial power was converted by

a good exchange rate political power, and germany played the role of the first capital of europe, because ... they were a financial center. at the moment, in the pre-war era, already the war, power plays a key role in the conversion into political power at a good rate, and your financial security does not have such a high conversion capacity, and accordingly, france is now trying not so much to compete with germany in terms of its economic rules, as to take and convert security into political influence, because currently, if you can... protect yourself and to protect others, it is more important than if you are able to credit them, and macron and the elites are now trying to turn paris into the security capital of europe, as opposed to the financial capital of europe, berlin, and this is the consensus of the elites, macron is leaving office, he is already does not care about his ratings, it is important for him now

to take statesmanlike steps, not political ones, in order not to burn his career and further go under. well, god forbid, let him succeed, then history will write this name on its tablet, we will be there later, our children will teach, then such, if it all succeeds in doing as he says, we literally have a few more minutes, i will also return to the hybrid-security and ukrainian moment, because we learned today that we have investigated everything further, and the security service of ukraine referred to the court the russian agent and traitor murayev. and comrade murayev was once visible on all the bigboards, he had our channel, before that news one, before our party was banned in ukraine, now... everything will now go to court, murayev will be tried, and one logical question arises, in order to raise the level of security, all agents must be destroyed, why are they moving murayev, and not moving

the people of muraev, why are all those who just carried out russian sabotage against russia's invasion of ukraine in the information space, all these, georgitso, maksy nazarov, vasi balano, you further continue to do the same, why the heroes of the russian federal? why to polchevsky, who said, i am a moscow intelligence officer, there are no questions, why such double standards, some, as they say, are handed over to the court, and others are not touched, i can to ask exactly the same questions, i can, of course , now find an institutional or political explanation for why this is happening, explain it, but i myself am not satisfied, because this is not a question now about that. why is this happening , everything is clear to me here, the question is that this should not happen like this, and that the russian agent should be, i will not quote the late kuzma

scriabin, but i will simply say that she should be imprisoned, and this is necessary for them to understand and all others in the future who are ready to sell their conscience and their homeland for money of the enemy, so that they perfectly understand that... this will not go unpunished, but, unfortunately, the institution of reputation and many other reasons, coming to political schedules and the convenience of controlling in this way a part of these networks that were used by pro-russian forces and their resources, they create for us that reality in which some of them walk on the streets and, working hard, they look special, but they all continue to remain on youtube, on tv, in all these hybrid forms, and this is... exactly the option that it is necessary that the security service ukraine has worked hard for everyone, because double standards lead to tragic moments, we will not show them, but this has already happened,

neither the sbu nor the police had time to arrive for one of those collaborators who pointed russian missiles, he was punished, we did not watch this video. we can show, but it is there, if you want to google it, he was destroyed by the lynch trial as a traitor. yes, mr. oleg, thank you for the conversation, oleg sagakyan, political scientist. with us with difficult issues, both international security and internal-ukrainian, you see the verdict on espresso, we asked you about the idea voiced by prime minister shmegal to reduce the number of ministries in the government by a third, we will accordingly now see what our interim results are, 80% support this idea, 20% do not support it, these are the moods of our tv viewers, we continue to collect your opinions, because now in a few minutes our colleagues from the bbc will work, and then we will

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you are watching the verdict on espresso program, we wish serhiy rodenko a speedy recovery, he will return to you, today i am roman chaika spending this evening with you, and see more in our program. reformatting of the government. shmyhal announced a reduction in the number of ministries by a third. which authorities? can be put under the knife. the final ban on moscow churches. the profile committee recommends that the parliament adopt the government bill. why is the vote postponed? a year of negotiations on joining the eu. ukraine expects

a negotiation framework by march 12, how the integration with the defense complex is progressing, we will talk about this and other things, but we remind you that we are collecting your opinions in response to a question from prime minister shmyhal: do you support reducing the number of ministries by a third, if you think so, then call to us on the first phone number you see on your screen, yes, but no, in red is the second phone number, we have... intermediate results 80 to 20, 80% of our viewers who have already voted think that so, as my guests believe, we will now interrogate, in connection with our studio, people's deputy of the servant of the people party, chairman of the parliament's committee on humanitarian and information policy and vice-president of the osce parliamentary assembly, nikita poturaev. mr. nikita, we congratulate you , and we will also have the people with us

deputy from faction of the fatherland, first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada committee on energy and housing and communal services oleksiy kucherenko. mr. oleksiy, good evening to you too. good evening, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. so, first of all, i will ask you how you perceived, how you see the implementation of this idea from prime minister denys shmyhal. on march 4 , he announced that it was actually within the framework of the government reform. that they plan to reduce the number of ministries by a third, that they plan to transfer part of the powers of the ministries to other ministries, even to other state structures, so mr. nikita, surely you should start, mr. oleksandr, you will simply pick it up, because some of our experts and guests today questioned this initiative at this very time, and consider it not very effective, mr. nikita, what do you say in response to such criticisms,

it is difficult for me to comment on it. since today our committee was engaged in the adoption of two very important laws, one of which you mentioned, after that i constantly started working with communication on this law, because there are attacks on it in the west by lobbyists, generously paid, but we can talk about it separately, regarding this initiative i always support the optimization of the state apparatus, it has been a chronic disease of ours for years, state expenditures are much higher than the level of state expenditures of developed countries, but we need to look at the prospect of this reform , yes, because actually we in the verkhovna rada, with mr. oleksiy, with other colleagues, will vote for the appointment of new ministers, in this sense we do not approve new ministries, but for new ones...