in particular, in the sky, well, 15 planes were shot down during the last weeks, this is extremely serious, that is, the enemy most likely did not expect anything, well, as i understand it, already in the dry residue there is some intuitive guess, the understanding is that we should now expect from the enemy's tactical aviation on the front line, and perhaps, if it is not a secret, there is already an understanding, so to speak, of how it was possible to work so brilliantly, one and a half minutes. and you have kolomet, but what is not there, what, what, that is not there, let the russians solve this task themselves, as they understand, that shot them down, because you know, let's just remember how it happened that the russians stopped flying behind the front line, but as far as i remember, 200 russian planes were shot down, it was recorded on may 13, 2022 , there was a certain paradox that after that the pace losses of the russian aviation fell, but after that they did not risk flying behind...

the front line, the following story arises accordingly: regardless of what kind of weapons we have, which are used by the russian military -34, the main thing, for this process to be relatively long, the number of planes does not play a role here, the duration of the process, when the russians are constantly being shot down, will play a role, because that way it can also accumulate in the end, that if somewhere like this for another two months , this beautiful story will drag on, that the russians with a certain regularity get lost, get lost, suddenly they will appreciate that they are now even with those... thank you mr. ivan, ivan kyrychevskyi, military expert defense express, was in touch with us, well, now we are going for a short break, after we her we'll be back

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17:45 the judicial control program with tetyana shustrova on the espresso tv channel. weekly the saturday political club helps to understand the process. everything that happens in ukraine and the world. vitaly portnikov, khrystyna yatskiv and invited experts give their assessment and forecast of the development of events based on facts. if you want to understand how our today will affect our tomorrow, watch the saturday politics club every saturday on espresso. greetings, this is an exclusive espresso, today i will talk about journalism as it is, as it should be, and my guest today knows very well about it. stephen kapus, president of radio free europe, radio liberty. congratulations, mr.

kapus, and thank you for joining us today. thank you very much for inviting me. so let's talk about radio liberty's presence in ukraine. having offices in kyiv. and in lviv, can we say that the ukrainian offices are becoming a kind of journalistic hub for radio liberty in the post-soviet space, i think this is a very apt description. radio liberty has been working in ukraine for 70 years, this year we celebrate the 70th anniversary. we are proud that ukraine is the home of... radio liberty now incredibly important considering everything that is happening in ukraine. we believe that it is very important to have a representative office in both kyiv and

lviv with correspondents who cover the whole country. they report from the front line and tell the stories of ukrainians. demonstrating the resilience of the ukrainian people and providing timely information. for 70 years, they have created a vital partnership with audiences. and that's good, but the head office still remains in prague. that's right, our main office is in prague, czech republic. we work. in 23 countries of europe and central asia, broadcasting in 27 languages, taking into account everything that is happening in ukraine, this is our biggest project, which is of vital importance. let's talk about freedom of speech, in particular in ukraine. you have been here for a week

and you understand the current situation very well. can you say that we have freedom of speech in ukraine? i ask this question because, as you know. some ukrainian tv channels are excluded from the digital network here in ukraine, including our espresso tv channel. so, do you think we have freedom of speech in general? understanding? i believe that freedom of speech is a vital part of any democratic country. of course, there is a lot here. and we realize that we are in a state of war. however, during my recent meetings with president zelenskyi and the us ambassador to ukraine, we emphasized the importance of press freedom. we

believe that it is of decisive importance, since ukraine continues to strive for the status of a member of the eu, and continues to develop as a democracy. to the challenges of wartime, we must remember that journalists with respect are concerned with matters of national security, but it is very important to stand up for the freedom of the press and to stand up for responsibility for independent work without censorship. thank you, as an international journalist, i know that there is freedom of the press in western countries. but i am interested in the reaction there to the situation in ukraine, in particular to russian aggression and war. has attention to this problem decreased? i have noticed that during the last year, some western media have not paid as much attention to the events in ukraine.

why do you think this happened? i don't take it to indicate to other editors how to cover. yes, i noticed that some news organizations pay less attention to ukrainian topics. saying, we don't get it, and it's the exact opposite of what our journalists do. we have made ukraine our most covered topic outside the hq apartment. now the main thing is that we continue to do it. so, while there is a struggle, efforts and different stories, the basis of the daily work of radio liberty is the general mix of the history of ukraine. and it's not only on the radio, on everyone platforms. we're not going anywhere, others

may lose interest, but we think it's playing with fire, frankly, because of the seriousness of the issues going on here. you already said that a few days ago, when you were in kyiv, you had a meeting with the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi. during which you talked about the ukrainian journalist yesipenko, i will tell about this journalist to our audience, my ukrainian, in a word, on march 10, 2021 , a freelance journalist of the radio liberty crimea realiy project stopped communicating, while on the territory of russia, he stopped communicating with his relatives, later it became known that he was simply detained by the fsb. accused him of connections with ukrainian special services and storage and

transportation of ammunition, this is no longer an isolated case. so, is there any news about vladyslav yasypenko, who has been illegally detained by the fsb for almost 3 years. yes, he is being held in crimea, which was occupied by russia. what would happen if... this is part of ukraine, and the whole world knows it. but russia has its own illegal ideas about whether they should be crimea. so they considered a journalist who tells the story of crimea as a threat. and there he paid a very high price for it. he has been in prison for almost 3 years. we

discussed this with the president and we were grateful to the president and the president's office for letting us know what was being done to release our colleague. the situation is complicated by a number of factors. but everyone agrees that he should be released. and the president did tell us that he intends to raise the issue of our detained colleague this spring at the summit. that's why we we hope that the issue of both crimea and the detention of our esteemed colleague will be raised at that time. that's what the president said, and we were grateful for what he shared. with this information, did you discuss with president zelensky the possibility of exchanging

the ukrainian journalist for some russians or simply his release? we discussed this issue, but we did not receive any concrete information from the president on this matter, and frankly, we did not expect it, this is something that he has to deal with and... we respect the complexity of the situation, but the bottom line is that vlad is a civilian, not a military man, his only crime is that he is a journalist and tells the stories of crimea. he must definitely return home. this week i had the honor to meet not only with the president, but also with vlad's wife, kateryna. she is a very strong woman. this family needs to come together and we are working

on it. we found out that the truth is a real threat to russia. otherwise, they would not have resorted to such radical actions. currently, russia receives two of our colleagues, one in crimea, the other in russia. and this tactic of arrests journalists simply for telling the truth must stop. she was also convicted of crimes she did not commit. do you have any news or information about her current situation? we are actively exploring all possible avenues for an immediate release. and currently we have several

options for the development of events. alsou is a valuable colleague, devoted wife and mother of two children. also, the fact that she is a united states citizen opened up other options for us on the way to her release. as i mentioned earlier, we are committed to learning from everyone possible options to get everyone home. we think about them every day. i want to tell our viewers that alsu kurmasheva has been in a pre-trial detention center since the end of october last year, she is accused of violating the so-called law on foreign agents, which has been in effect in

russia for several years, and the investigation believes that the journalist herself should have to provide documents that she is a foreign agent to the register of agents, but this is russia, you don't really understand them sometimes. okay. recently , the general prosecutor's office of russia announced radio freedom is an undesirable organization in the country. is something changing for radio svoboda? given that you were previously recognized as a foreign agent. such branding can have a bad effect on both journalists and journalism in general. they try to present the profession as an illegal activity, which is an absurd and dangerous concept. they can call

us... whatever they want, but we can clearly say that our work will continue, although we no longer have an office in russia, we still continue to cover the events there. our reports penetrate deep into russia every day, and we intend to continue these efforts. it really amazes me that while you... they silenced navalny forever, when they commit these heinous crimes, when we get labels like this, when bombs fall on ukrainian civilians every day, the level of revulsion inside russia is rising, because it's all

anti-freedom people, against those who seek freedom. those who want to live in a sovereign country, those who want to express themselves as journalists, those who simply want to be able to return to russia to visit my sick mother, as was the case with zals, so i want to assure you that we will not be stopped, and we will continue to do our work. speaking about the death of the russian opposition leader oleksiy navalny, how can his death affect world journalism in general, and possibly even russian journalists in particular. this highlights, as i said, that

truth is a very powerful tool. i do not call it a weapon, because we are not at war. we are not trying to use force, we are just trying to tell the truth. of course they are want a certain intimidation effect to spread. they want to silence journalists. journalists are killed inside russia, journalists are imprisoned. you know, i'm wall street journal correspondent evan, and it's been almost a year since he was illegally detained. and wrongfully detained, and despite this, there is still a lot of journalism that focuses on what is happening inside. do you mean russian journalism? i mean journalism that covers what

is happening inside russia. wrong one would think that he would be able to seal off russia from the curious fathers of journalists just like that, but this will not happen. does true journalism exist in russia, or does propaganda reign supreme there? external, not internal. i believe that there are still brave people who are doing their best to bring the truth to people. despite the difficulties, they continue their work. however, we are dealing with a well-funded state media that often pushes propaganda and ignores basic facts. for example, russia made it illegal to use the word war for description of what is happening to the ukrainian civilian population. this is both absurd and

dangerous. sane people see through this tactic and know the truth. mr. kapus, you mentioned that rfe/rl journalists are actively reporting from the frontline in order to provide an accurate picture of the situation. however, my question also concerns... should western journalists in certain cases consider the possibility of reporting from the front line on the side of the russians, given that such cases do occur. a very interesting question. not sure if it's safe now.

we can see with our own eyes the consequences of the actions of the russian military. yesterday i was in bucha and irpen and saw this for myself. we do not need to make reports in the body of the russians. territory ok thanks and my last question for today will be about the post-truth era. i will say a few words in ukrainian to tell our audience about it. so, let's talk now about the post-truth. post-truth is what many people say, we are now living in this period, it is when the circumstances under which, under which the objective facts are less significant than during formation. of public opinion, than appealing to some human subjective emotions and beliefs, we, many people say that we live in this very time, and therefore now my question to mr.

president will be this: how can journalism survive in the post-truth era. maybe i have an old-fashioned idea that the truth will prevail. so much is being done now to pollute the information environment largely through misinformation. therefore, one of our missions at radio liberty is to fight disinformation. do everything possible to highlight true information, to separate facts from fiction. i will just say that journalism is a noble calling and we need people now who are committed to telling the truth, we must not

give up just because there are forces that do not want the truth to be spoken, shared or seen. you and i are witnesses of what is happening, we know what the truth is, and i believe, as i have already said, that... to tell the world about what is happening and especially what is happening here in ukraine, it extremely important. we must not give up and we will not. we will not give up. thank you for coming today and answering my questions. thank you very much. please, thank you for the invitation. well, a lot was said today about journalism as it should be. to be what she is, and what, in the end, she would ideally be, how we would like to see her, i was talking about this with steven kapus, the president of radio free europe, radio liberty, i was

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