than those that we would count on, that is , if russia gets involved in a long war, if the putin regime continues to slide into international isolation and exhausts to a certain extent its economic potential, technological potential, then it is this attitude and this understanding that it must stop its existence, it is realized in a certain way, for us it is very... unpleasant that we are suffering and we are also exhausting our survival mode, but when we talk about geopolitics, there is not much left for the sentiments of the place, so to speak, so if to talk about rhetoric, it seems to me that all the necessary words have already been said, not all steps have been taken, no steps have been taken regarding the proper supply of weapons.

economic sanctions have a completely ridiculous effect so far, when we hear that even british firms, britain seems to be our most loyal and most determined ally, but we learn that in russian weapons, and it has elements that are supplied from the west, and british firms cooperate with the russians, that is, there are many things in which the event could be more... decisive, and, but one more short remark, i it seems that he will be more decisive, he will be pushed , as it is regrettable, but here is the threat of catastrophe in ukraine, that is, we heard as soon as there were theses that the russians could break through the front, theses that ukraine is suffocating without ammunition supplies.

they began to move, they began, the president of the czech republic proposed, the prime minister, i apologize, the prime minister of the czech republic proposed his idea, macron made strong statements in the us congress, after all , some kind of movement began, that's just such a threat the fact that ukraine cannot withstand it may, unfortunately, encourage the west to take more decisive actions. the president of france mentioned. you, mr. maksym , stated that he does not rule out that the troops of certain countries, members of the north atlantic alliance, may be on the territory of ukraine, later he said that there is no need to be cowards in the current situation, and called on the allies to help ukraine as as much as possible, because the future of europe depends on this help. boris pistorius, minister of defence. germany says that macron's call,

as for not being cowards, it will not solve the problems with military support for ukraine, and eu high representative for foreign affairs and security policy josep borel said that it does not make sense to create an eu army yet, because there is also a lot of talk about it in europe now. at the same time, the coordinator of strategic communications of the national security council of the white house, john kirby. says that the united states of america is not going to send its troops to participate in hostilities in ukraine, he has already stated this again, let's hear what john said kirby. president biden stated very clearly from the very beginning: there will be no american troops fighting on the battlefield within the borders of ukraine, and you know that president zelensky is not asking for this, he is only asking for means and capabilities. he never asked for foreign troops to... fight for his country

, he and his army will do that, but they need the means, and this is where we have to help them, mr. oleksiy, but our western partners do not want to send military contingents to the territory of ukraine, they are quite modest, they give us quite modest help, give military aid, and the united states of america even now does not... can't decide how to give the same military aid, how do you think the west is going to strategically defeat putin if they do nothing, or minimally? you said the key words: extremely modest aid and extremely, extremely slow and careful measures in order to limit the influence of the putin regime and russia in general, but when we talk about... let's say financial

support to ukraine, i remember 2009, the beginning of the ten-year debt crisis in greece, then for small greece, in order for it to cope. with the issue of debts, international financial institutions and the european union allocated 260 billion euros in loans, 260 billion to solve the debt problem, and 50 billion for four years for ukraine to solve the question of its survival and the question of security for at least the eastern europe, and therefore i think that many of our partners understand this very well, that what... they provide ukraine with support, equipment, weapons, ammunition, firstly, it is not enough, this is very little, secondly, it is happening extremely chaotically, when the countries, the leading countries of the european union, throw up their hands and say , well, it didn't work out later, let's increase

production, and the president of the czech republic says: "stop, we have a backup plan, 800, 800 thousands of shells, 800, 800 million shells , a huge number, and so it shows a certain chaos in decision-making, there is no certain vision in a month, in six months, in a year, er, on the other hand, there should be er, i think some of her objections to the ukrainian authorities, because there are issues with which we need to work, if we are talking about finances, i think that we need to put on the agenda for a long time not only the issue of financial support for ukraine, but also the write-off of part of the debts, which will reduce our debt burden, we will be able to save funds seriously enough, and actually, the very issue of a war of such force majeure as a war, it allows to start these negotiations, to start a process, and this process can be

quite effective, and therefore for us now it is simple, i consider this one of the key events this year. these are macron's words about the fact that he does not rule out the participation and involvement of the french military in the work in ukraine. that's a lot. and the details can go on. it will be technical employees, it will be training, instructors. this will be the third, fourth format. but the key is that macron started this debate. europe began to perceive key security more realistically. factors for themselves and be quite critical of the possibility of a quick victory over putin. this is important for us, because macron's statement was picked up by four others to one degree or another states, these are states that have less influence on decision-making, but at least the discussion

around this issue has started. this is an extremely big plus, and i think that this statement itself, it will have the effect of weapons and that. technology and finance, but macron acted simply as an atypical politician, he went against the will of his voters, well , at least the results of sociological polls indicate that it is unlikely that average french voters will agree with the thesis of their president, that is, this is an extremely responsible step of macron as a politician, and not only as a policy on the scale of france, on the scale. world, because it is about the fact that macron may be taking over the leadership now on the european continent, in matters of security, because it is about what, if, or insult, if trump wins the presidential elections in

the united states of america, then it is possible , the entire structure of the north atlantic alliance may change, or, let's say , be adjusted in some way, because trump says that those who do not... pay, we will not protect them or do not pay enough into the general budget of the north atlantic alliance. can mr. maxim, based on what macron said and what european politicians are saying, about the european army, although they are denying it now and saying that it is impossible, is it possible for a new security structure to appear already with the participation of ukraine, because ukraine is one of the cornerstones of this new european security architecture. but in the format of the north atlantic alliance, we cannot be members of nato in the near future, while the war is going on, but in the format of a new european security structure, where we will play a significant role

can we play a greater role than in the north atlantic alliance, is such a scenario possible? the scenario is definitely possible, but there are many prerequisites for it to... be realized, and frankly speaking, the end of the war with a positive result for us, i will say optically, for... victory in this war, is a necessary condition for that such alliances were formed and were stable, and were formalized and so on, because alliances are still formed and developed mainly in peacetime, during war few people risk, so to speak, interfering already in the fight after it started. er , i think that many european politicians crossed themselves when putin attacked ukraine,

and they remembered that at one time they did not, did not accept ukraine into nato or did not start its movement even in nato, by and large, because this would require them to intervene in the fight, to enter the war, and we can talk about the fact that maybe putin would not have attacked, but... what is happening there in the baltic region, the threat that has loomed over individual nato member countries , shows that such a calculation is also, so to speak, controversial. so, if we talk about the future security configuration in our part of the world or in central, eastern europe, it will be determined mainly by the results of the russian-ukrainian war. how ukraine will come out of this war,

how russia will come out of this war, so to speak, will be key factors that will influence the choice and decisions of european partners, they will, of course, be very careful and watch over their national interests, so to speak , and as for macron's statement and the logic behind it developed is happening within the euro-atlantic community and so on, then i would draw attention to another factor that few people mention now, they talk about the cautious chancellor of the federal republic of germany, who will lose against macron, in this case, but less talk about such a rather reserved a position that has recently been taken by the diplomacy of the great. britain, that is, britain has not changed its, so to speak, position, but active

leadership, so to speak, to date, it does not claim it, as it it happened under the previous prime minister, so there is a chance, a niche is emerging, but for now it is a political niche, before decisive steps and new military-political alliances, i think. still very far. thank you, gentlemen, after a short break, we will return to our conversation, for the audience, i will tell you what will be interesting next, do not switch. what do you think about lakalut fix? fixes reliably, my dentist advised me. yes, and particles of food do not get under the prosthesis. and the price is good, the right choice for my retirement. lacaluut fix is ​​a new cream for extra strong fixation of dentures. and healthy gums, so your choice is laut fix, meet the new product, a profitable package of 70

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congress, where at this speech, at these celebrations, at these, zelensky... to sit next to yulia navalny, if you approve of zelensky's decision not to attend biden's speech because of this, then vote on tv by phone at 0800 211 381, no 0800 211 382 and please, during the entire broadcast we conduct this vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, all calls to these numbers are free on youtube. everything is quite simple, yes, no, choose, and or write your comment, what do you think about it. today, maksym rozumny and oleksiy koshel are our guests, we are talking not only about foreign policy, but also about domestic policy. today it became known that the electoral commission declared that

there are no questions about the legitimacy of president volodymyr zelensky after may 20, he will rule the country until the end of the martial law regime, this is what it says. in the response of the central election commission to the request of the glavkom internet publication that there will be no issues with legitimacy until the end of martial law, after the end of martial law, after on may 20, after the end of this state of martial law, within 30 days, after the end of this legal state, presidential elections will be announced, at the same time information appeared about... the presidential possibilities, the current presidential possibilities of zelenskyi and zaluzhno. sociology from socis. if the presidential elections were held this year, the majority of ukrainians would support valery zaluzhny's candidacy. the results of the social survey of this company testify. valery zaluzhny has the most support, 31.3%. volodymyr zelenskyi - 21.7%. at

this in the second round with zelenskyi for... would get 67% against zelenskyi's 32%, such sociology, in principle, mr. oleksiy, to you, as a person who follows almost all the elections that took place, starting, if i i am not mistaken since 1994 in the committee of voters of ukraine, here, that is, for 30 years you have been monitoring all election processes, all election results, the course of the election campaign. in the last few months we have seen a lot of different sociology about the presidential election, about who can win and about the leaders trust rating despite the fact that it is absolutely obvious that these presidential elections will not be held soon, or will they be, what is the reason for this? in my conviction

, deep conviction, during martial law there cannot be any presidential, parliamentary... or local elections, there is a provision of the constitution that clearly states that parliamentary elections should not be held, but this provision, its logic, extends to other articles of the constitution , and at least the leading experts on constitutional law with whom i have either spoken or are familiar with their opinion, all have a unanimous position that the president is legitimate after may 20, and there should be no discussions in this regard, but why did you appear? i believe that this discussion was provoked by the bank , because i will remind you that in october and november of last year, active topics about elections began, they say that you cannot hold them, but you can change the law, and none of the representatives of the authorities, with the exception, by the way, of mr. venislavsky, then the president's representative in the verkhovna rada,

except for him, everyone talked about the fact that, in principle, if we want, elections can be held, we will change here. the law, the second, 226 votes is not a problem and so on, but now, when the situation was shaken up, now it became clear that no, gentlemen, now we are already mentioning the constitution, it was necessary to mention it earlier, make a submission to the constitutional court, get a clear conclusion, get a clear conclusion, and stop any speculation, because it is dangerous, we are shaking the state during the war, and now, by the way, it is already difficult to turn to the constitution. court, because there are only 13 members out of 18, and 10 votes are needed to make a decision, i.e. quite serious problems are already arising there, so now... we have seen both the statements of the central committee and the statements of representatives of the servants of the people party, i think that this topic will continue to live for months, and

politicians will speculate on it, and russia will try, therefore, i am convinced that there cannot be any elections now, there cannot be, all the ratings that appear are quite conditional, well, at least during the war, talking about ratings is very conditional . but they show a trend, indeed, and kmis, and previous polls show, and sotsis, and kmis and others show that there is a tendency to increase distrust in the authorities, in the institutions of power, in some not just an increase in distrust, but, you know, at an angle of 45°, a decrease in distrust, well, at least in the verkhovna rada and in the cabinet of ministers, we need to draw conclusions from this, because this trend. is quite threatening during the war, because distrust of certain government institutions and distrust and growing distrust

of certain personnel in power there is generally a decrease in trust in the state, including in mobilization and in many what else, that is why it is necessary to stop political games as much as possible now and draw conclusions of sociology, not from ratings, but from other indicators. but on the other hand, mr. maxim, these are the results of sociology, although they were probably predicted, and in principle it would be possible, even without conducting sociology, er, and polls, well, in principle , to predict that such and such a proportion could be without that, but this sociology actually gives insight not only to the authorities about what is happening and who is a competitor, well , a potential competitor, but also... a potential gives the competitor the opportunity to understand, and what should he do with this trust rating, because one way or another we see that the diligent person has been dismissed, but still the trust rating of

the diligent person is high enough, and here the question is whether or not the diligent person has, there will be no temptation to start with the creation of a party, and well , it can also be, or with his associates headed by his and... name or headed by his image? well, somehow we already talked about this situation in this studio about zaluzhnyi, his potential political start of running for president or as part of some political forces and mentioned that in a similar way the situation or certain people, certain groups pushed them out. leaders, sometimes, well , if not contrary to, then regardless of their desire, they were pushed into big politics, into this, into

the ratings of sociological services and so on, well, i would remember the same viktor yushchenko, who there called leonid kuchma his father and in general , he was positioned there as a banker and in general, he became so very forced, so to speak. president, although then, it seems, he liked it, well , that’s it, that’s how this whole story with the industrious, with by his rating, it also has this flavor of political technology, but here i agree with my colleague that this game was started, well, from both sides, and it was bankova who started it with the hope of winning, i mean the whole story of... . the possibility of holding elections, with the regular publication of high ratings of the current head of state, respectively, and in this situation,

of course, that political intrigue will only grow, a decrease in the rating of the government, a decrease in its popularity - this is the fate of almost all politicians, especially in ukraine. many these sinusoids are drawn on which what happens with the rating of the head of state in the second, third, fourth year of the reign, in the conditions of the war, this logic was somewhat adjusted, but it has not been canceled, besides, we do not know how the war will end, there is a big the probability that president zelensky will have to sign the peace that is not or agree to it in an informal way. that peace, which will not satisfy many ukrainians, under these conditions, of course, that his popularity may drop sharply, and the question of an alternative will arise, but today we see... very

such a serious application for an alternative , we still don't know what he himself thinks about this matter, general zuluzhny, because he actually doesn't say anything after his resignation, but this application is very serious, thank you mr. maksym, mr. oleksiy, but what can he do to return the rating volodymyr zelenskyi, because we have already heard shmyhal talk about the need to cut a third. and it is clear that this will contribute , because the confidence rating of zelensky will return, because in our country people like when ministries are reduced, when there, well, even if it is a simulated reduction, there a third of the ministries will be reduced, but the officials will not be reduced, but different ministries will be divided, as has happened more than once, or state committees will be created, as has also happened more than once, what do you think can be

returned now? rating of confidence in zelenskyi or increase the rating of confidence in zelenskyi? you know, i'm afraid that nothing has happened, that is , a large number of systemic errors have been made, but a few months ago volodymyr zelenskyi spoke during a press conference about the decision-making mechanism in the state, he spoke about five or six close people, for whom, by the way, we did not vote in the elections, we understand that they are mr. yermak, several deputy heads of the office. the president himself pronounced these names, and for me , you know, it was shocking the fact that among these five or six i wanted to hear, i wanted to hear the names of the prime minister, the chairman of the verkhovna rada, and the secretary of the national security council, but they were simply not was, that is, if we speak strategically, then i think that nothing will help volodymyr zelensky now, because he built an illogical, inefficient management mechanism, eh... and

that is why mistakes will continue , mistakes will continue, mistakes will be made based on an emotional component, the mechanism of power will not work in a sufficiently high-quality way, and that is why this array of mistakes, it will continue to accumulate, and why i speak so skeptically, because in power today there is not even an understanding of what a false and ineffective model they have built, this model cannot work, you see, we can... run the country in the format of a soviet collective farm, so at a certain period of time there was a management format of red directors or the format of the soviet colossus is such one-man decision-making, this mechanism can work for a short time, but working for years in order for the state to be effective is illogical, and that is why we see a huge number of management, management mistakes, there

the ambassador. in great britain we do not appoint six months, it is a lot, it is simply catastrophically much, there is not even an understanding, we do not appoint an ambassador in the netherlands, in china there was no ambassador for about two years, in china, and ending with the latest examples, when yesterday the parliament decided not to hold sessional meetings in order to make a pr trip to the front, well, you know, it 's strange for me to say the least, because i saw nearby... thank you, mr. oleksiy, we have to finish, please give us regulations too, as in verkhovna rada of ukraine. thank you, oleksiy koshel, chairman of the committee of voters of ukraine, and maksym rozumny , doctor of political sciences, were guests of our program today, during this program we conducted a survey, friends, we asked you about the following: do you approve of zelenska's decision not to attend biden's speech to

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