or another direction and we are being hit, and we do not inflict counterattack fire damage on these groups, that is , in order to disorient them, not to give them the opportunity to advance, and this indicates that they can form a larger such, more a group that can advance deep into our territory at a more determined pace, with deep penetrations, we are ours... who should understand this, i think, well, what do we have to do with you, we cannot fantasize much with you or assume any actions on the part of russia there or our troops, without having at least 25% of the information that should be known in order to be able to predict such actions, that is why all the speeches of experts such as swidon, for example, are more rhetorical than that.

this means that experts such as zhdanov and oleg zhdanov are careful to testify as a matter of fact, they comment on what happened on the day of the war, and in this way, in general, intelligent people move away from the fact that it is possible to predict this or that action at a deeper distance in time, i can say the same thing that the possible actions are not that... i want to look like a person who is not yours, and yours, and ours, no, not in any case, but the situation is particularly difficult with us regarding our support, around our mobilization, that is, with the formation of additional reserves, and the fact that we were announced that 11,300, 10,200 of us are under the armed forces of ukraine, then i am very interested in this, but where are these 200 million, what are they doing, this is the first thing, secondly, if we do not

have enough 200 million, maybe we should have 1.5 million, or maybe two. someone doesn't like it, and they say that we want to throw, you suggest throwing bodies at the enemy, dear friends, but if we don't have weapons with enough modern ammunition, there won't be enough forces, not forces, sorry, but the means of armed struggle promised to us by the europeans and the united states, then how can we defend the state, how can we stand up for... our independence and our lands and our rights , there is no other way, only renunciation itself, you will not find anything else in history, and not only in history, but also in the future, and all these stories about the fact that we will fight with super modern technological weapons and smash the enemy and let's knock him out of our territory, this is all talk that distracts people from serious intentions and preparations for serious actions, because ... until the foot of a soldier sets foot on

the ground that we consider our own, no one will free it, no drone , no rocket , no f16 and no scalp, there or otherwise, means combat equipment, technology, only our soldier, only our soldier with a weapon in his hands, who will go on the attack and drive out the enemy and go to the border with his feet, boots, passing every meter of our land, watering... with blood and then, only he can do it, no technological, extraordinary means do it. there was one such case in history, it was in the year 45, when the united states made two atomic nuclear strikes on cities in japan. the japanese army shuddered and began to roll back to its monopoly, and monopoly, and thus there happened more or less like this... and it was not

very typical, but everything can be considered like that, unfortunately, we do not have such and we will not have such powers, so we have classical ways and methods of solving them issues regarding the defense of independence and the return of our borders. thank you very much, colonel ivan yakubets, a military expert and ex-commander of the airborne assault troops of ukraine, was in touch with us. we are going to take a short break. and then we'll come back and talk about khrystyna silavi. tired of heavy and bulky saws, then the strong saw from razpak tv is just for you, with it you can easily cut trees and bushes, it is so convenient to use it for carpentry work, it is the perfect tool for your home or garden, and the price is only from uah 1,499, including a reliable battery in the set, call now and order! there is a possibility

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that public figures who dragged russian culture into the ukrainian space, that they also bear partial responsibility for what... what is happening in our country now, we can watch this piece again, er, and listen, if you suddenly missed it, or if you missed this discussion, or if you don't know who khrystyna soloviy is or who masha yefrosinina is, masha yefrosinina, tv presenter khrystyna soloviy, singer, we watch and listen, we are very tolerant with our people, especially with those who once made a mistake, even you, tolerant, so with... yes, well, how did emma attack you for the ukrainian language, now you still see ukrainian with me, and we don't talk about it, even that's it it goes without saying, do you think that's why i started talking, because of the emu? no, i don't think that because of emu, i believe that you did it sincerely and that your transition, yes, but you

said that we do it very tolerantly with those who were wrong, we give a chance to our people, yes, to stand on the side of ukrainianism and feel like a ukrainian, everyone should be responsible for that. that they built cultural bridges between russia and ukraine, for the fact that they tried to sit on two chairs and for the fact that they blurred the borders, they are all responsible for this, in their hands, in their hearts, and there will always be blood on the soul. i think so, do you want to object to me, i am ready to listen to you, this conversation is very difficult, because you are talking now about the formation, you are now talking about the whole period, about the whole era of 30 years of the formation of the country, within which, within which the request for everything well... what was called art, culture, music, television, in general everything, what you and

i are inserting into the construction of show business today, this construction was built at the request of the audience and the audience asked, so here is such a dispute took place, anzhelika rudnytska, ukrainian singer, tv presenter, artist, scientist , writer, public figure, volunteer and person who was the leader of such a... project as territory a, is well known to many ukrainians, and many ukrainians actually grew up in this territory , formed, are now on your screens, angelica, congratulations, congratulations, yes, in this context, it is probably the most important thing to talk about the territory of a, because when they start appealing to the requests of the audience, ugh, it really annoys me, huh. .. requests the audience is formed by the information space

, of course, people who were used to listening to some songs in the soviet union, chanson, blatnyak, and something else, in the 90s, they suddenly started listening to ukrainian music, why, because such projects arose in ukraine, like a red rue, like a radio parade parade 12-m2, like the first video... parade territory territory and so together, well, we didn’t work together as one front, maybe unfortunately, although we were friends, supported each other, cooperated, but we changed agenda, that's why it was a private initiative, yes, it was not a state policy, it was people who simply understood that it was necessary to change the country, to change from within and... the consciousness of ukrainians, who should have been ukrainians through mass culture the easiest way,

because it has the greatest influence on the audience, and if you presenter, if you are a responsible , public person, then you take responsibility for formulating a request, and not running after this request, and what else is wrong here , well, not only there in... or in that coquettishness that the audience, and not me, because, well , because there is an example of how it can be done otherwise, well, we saw how the erasure of the ukrainian informational and cultural space began in the zeros, it happened before our eyes, and we know some mechanisms, i don't know all of them, of course, but some mechanisms that they tried to test on me. i know how they tried to buy the project, tried to overbuy the project, tried

to protect it, primarily with money, and when you don't agree to these conditions, you simply disappear from the air, that is, no one can protect you, what's the audience for here, that's what an audience of millions of people watched yesterday projects, went to festivals. were listening to the radio parade of the territory, and suddenly at one point they forgot what they loved and began to love sharply everything that came from russia. no, it's not true. and what is the truth? and the truth is that they decided to change everything, they decided to place different accents. it was scary for russia to lose a huge piece of its imperial e. such a delicacy for the empire, yes, like ukraine,

and of course they could not lose it, and began to impose even more actively than before, and their songs, narratives, as we love now to talk, uh, the rules of the game and so on, i, angelica, i just think that in fact, i, too, yesterday, held back a little too long, i didn’t want to... i read everything, but i agreed to discuss with you, because you are moderate , smart and did not change shoes, but the truth is, i love you, and i understand that our task is now. they won't say you're bad there, no, every person who now speaks a ukrainian word, sings a ukrainian song, goes over to our side, this, this is important, but as andriy rightly said, they do it without respect, because who with respect, we are open-minded, we are happy that we are strengthening ukrainian positions, but when it is

disrespectful, with arrogance, because now the audience forces me to do so. of course , it makes me feel, it is very important, but in this discussion , i am grateful, oksana forostina joined her, and she said very important things, that in fact this is a dispute, it is not about language, because some people there immediately began to interpret it, well again with her language orphans, and as much as possible, well, she switched to ukrainian, and thank god, what else do you want from her, it’s not at all about language, oksana rightly says, it's about privileges, it's about the fact that you came to the people's place. who did something and did great things, i am now watching, for example, some old concerts there until the end of the 90s, the beginning of the 2000s on ot1, but they are poor, the light is terrible there , there is something else, they were made for 3 kopecks, i i understand, they are made with taste, because there was not only money in the 90s, but there was no technical possibility, i

am ashamed to show any blue light with kirkorov of any year, of any government... on the producer , i am ashamed of him to show it to any of my friends from abroad , it's a shame, because when you show it, you can't explain why we're fighting with russia, what we're fighting for, for what, against what, but i'm not ashamed to show it, no i know , there is some concert by ruslana, for example, one of the christmas ones, no shame, because it’s cool, it sounds cool, it’s official music, it’s class, it’s done with taste, so i absolutely agree, but that’s for those people , what is this... they were beaten with sweat for 3 kopecks, such as angelika, from whom we just did said, some other people came, and our claim to these people lies in this, including that they came and they did not even say, then excuse me that we introduced the russian world here, what is it, we have already switched to ukrainian, i even have a husband fighting, what do you want from me, or even another one, i

recently happened upon a video archive, a beautiful video... of the beautiful, charismatic, ukrainian-speaking iryna bilyk, and then she disappeared, and she could never return , could not return to herself, that's what says osana ferson, these are crippled destinies, these are these lost careers, god, how many people, for example, oleksandr yevtushenko, the publisher of the first ukrainian music magazine, died unknown, in fact. a person who blazed a path in general, which later turned out to be unnecessary for anyone: ukrainian music criticism, ukrainian music? yes, in the 90s, when we were private initiatives, i emphasize this again, because it was all done by people who

decided that this was the best, easiest way of gentle ukrainization, that... it is necessary to capture the youth of all ukrainians to do it not about the language, it’s about the attitude towards everything, well, we were developing such grandiose plans on how to develop further, and after 5 years at the peak of development there, for example , territory a, but we were the first to be destroyed, everyone was destroyed after us, well, we said people... this is not about the fact that they simply removed some program from the air and replaced it, well, another one was put in its place, no, it is about completely different things, it is about the fact that they began to destroy those projects, those programs, i do not mean television programs, but simply

programs, channels that are ukrainian ukrainianized in the global sense of the word. when people started to be proud that they are ukrainians, when, even when they speak russian, they still say, we are ukrainians, we are proud of ourselves, our music is better, well, there were simply no great ukrainian films then, everything just started to revive , there were a lot of problems, and so we were destroyed, no one, no one then stood up for protection, why am i unsentimental towards many people then? who are now smearing snot there, because no one stood up for protection no of the red route, no territory and, well, like, disappeared, oh, well, there will be something else, we... we were enthusiastic about it, but together with these projects, which kept around them large masses of information and e cultural

product, everything came crashing down , because when there is no core, when there are no leaders, people scatter, ideas scatter, and everyone thinks only about how to survive, and not about how to promote some great idea for which you are not paid . money, you have to come up with it yourself, implement it yourself and come up with more, how to monetize it, as we would say now , yes, well, then we were all so romantic and thought: well, we fought for ukraine, we starved on the maidan, at the revolution on the granite, well, now we have to do something else, but with other methods, different, peaceful, gentle, beautiful , cheerful, unifying, then, when they come to you and... they want to buy you and make you a political structure, you say, no, i don't want to be a political structure, i like to do that , what i do,

people are already looking at you and you become dangerous, when the hid parade went to territory a three times a day and when one broadcast was filmed and our audience collected 100,000 signatures for the restoration of this broadcast, we became dangerous. because at that moment it was possible to run for the verkhovna rada, and even, in my opinion, for the presidency with so many votes, do you understand? and when they come to you with suitcases of money and say, here is the money, and with this money you will get a bunch of cool songs, clips, content, show it in the hit parade, you will not think what you have to live for, how do you, what for buy you btkam sp a cassette that costs $90. in order to accumulate and save these clips for montages and you will feel normal, you will be a star in the literal sense of the word, and not that's all you do and when you

give up the money you see , because you have an idea and you understand why you are doing it, or excuse me, someone has a position, in which someone adapts whenever it is convenient for him, and i understand that this is... no, not equal to money, but i think that a huge number of ukrainians who were young people, when territory a, eh, who wanted to be ukrainians, who wanted, who were looking for this island of ukraine, they are extremely grateful for what you, angelica, did, what your like-minded people did, for those ukrainian songs, hits , which relegated all russian pop music to the background. who would have huge money, who showed that ukrainian can be cool, fashionable, popular, and now, after all, children, teenagers are still

playing some scriabin somewhere, singing some iryna bilyk that early, you know, phantom 2 has record views on our youtube channel phantom 2, already 1.6 million views, so imagine when we digitized the materials, we uploaded them to youtube, they just lay there for years, no one touched them, and so now it's the beginning of a full-scale war, there's just such a crazy interest in old music again, and huge views have appeared on these clips, and this shows it. about the fact that the request is huge, there is, angelica, a journalist i know from poland writes, i was a fan of the territory, and people here write so that we cut this conversation separately

and the conversation was posted separately, we will do so , thank you, sorry, we just have etheric discipline, we have to finish, anzhelika rudnytska, ukrainian singer, tv presenter, artist, scientist, writer, public figure and volunteer, and a person who made the territory , and she was with us, thank you, friends, that you are with us, we still have an hour ahead of us, we will talk about eight o'clock. and chinese cars, tired of heavy and bulky saws, then the strong saw from rozpaku tv is just for you, with it you can easily cut trees and bushes, it is so convenient can also be used for carpentry work, it is an ideal tool for your home or garden, and the price is only from uah 1,499, and a reliable battery is also included. call now and order, there is a possibility of free delivery, check with the consultants, cut branches, cut a beam, chop firewood, you will do all this in one movement

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