china, which sounded further, or south asia , the issue of ukraine came up again in the discussion, in the debate at the highest level, this is a platform for powerful ukrainian work, that is, we can use it, well, without crossing red lines neatly from the point of view of domestic american policy, it's a new challenge, and i think it's important to remember that it's not up to us, let's say... to choose the president, it's up to the american people, but i'll say that , well, that's also, you know, just look at the statements, i look at the result, i look at the result, and joseph biden is doing now a lot to help, but we want, well, to have a slightly different strategy, and we are looking for such a solution together with our allies, and donald trump still made a political decision to extradite ukraine.

weapons, let's be honest, the democratic administration has not made this decision before, even though we showed the same thing to them and explained how it was wrong not to do it, under donald trump it was done, i was in those negotiations, i was there directly together with the president of ukraine and the minister of foreign affairs, that is, it was this one conversation and especially lethal weapons, this unspoken embargo was overcome precisely by donald's decision. trump, no matter how much he might be there and doesn't want it right away, so, you know, let's not put any stamps on everyone, and joseph biden, for some reason, everyone started writing it off, well, ukrainian commentators, that 's already donald trump, but why? in general, i believe that the result is completely unpredictable, moreover, let's look at the congress, the elections on november 5 - this is completely the house of representatives going through... a third

senate, and without the senate, without approving positions, no president can implement his foreign policy or serious matters in the field of international communication, that is, there are a lot of issues, and i assure you that there will be a lot of changes. we will wait for the results of the elections, really, because we already had such an experience in ukraine that some comments that were not acceptable for one of the... parties in the race, then we simply did not respond well, and we must remember this too. let's talk about emmanuel macron, because emmanuel macron during the last month has demonstrated the ability, or let's say the desire, to be one of the leaders of the newest europe, or the leader of the european continent. and he talked a lot about the fact that russia threatens europe, he met with the leaders of 20 european

countries and talked about what is happening now on the european continent, what is happening in ukraine, but at the same time, macron met with the heads of french political parties , and today the french press writes that they discussed with the french president the possibility, or him words that the french military contingent may end up in ukraine. what the press writes, referring to fabien roussel, the leader of the communist party in france, says that he says that emmanuel macron mentioned a scenario in which he can initiate an intervention, in particular, the advance of the front towards odesa or towards kyiv, that is, judging from what fabien roussel said, macron does not rule out intervention. of the french army on the territory

of ukraine, if the russians will attack odesa and kyiv, this is what macron's latest public statements mean, that is, the president can't france accidentally mentions about sending a military contingent there in different speeches in different places, that is, it is clear that he has some kind of position, he just hints at this position to putin. i will tell you that it was not a secret for me, i think that what was clear to us was that the countries of the european union nato could face a russian provocation and even an attack on their territory, and even though the war with ukraine continues, we, our heroic warriors, men and women, are holding back these hordes, but i believe that... bravery, and not 3-5

years, as their intelligence there, or the ministry of defense say, much faster and maybe even during such a positional war, such conditions can be created... precisely to the enemies of russia, to show the inability of the nato countries and the european union to respond to the eastern flank, therefore sagging is certain in america, and here is the signal that we heard a long time ago, not now, but sometime in october , that there will be a delay, they heard in europe immediately, and immediately asked questions, then serious conversations took place behind closed doors, well let's say not public, about also how to react and... and here we are already seeing the political consequences of those conversations of experts, that is, now in these political conditions, the first thing is actually already accepted as a consensus that there is such a threat, it is very serious and may very well be in the coming years, this is the first on the part of russia, the second

is that europe's responsibility is growing, so europe must wake up and take concrete steps in the field of defense and arms production and... help, well in this case help to ukraine, well, its own , to increase its arsenals, and so on, i.e. first of all allocation, first of all, how much money is allocated for this, and thirdly , it is competition, well, is it such a good competition for the leadership of both countries and political figures in this particular area, that is why emmanuel macron took such a step in advance, gathered the heads of state in paris on february 26. and on march 7, precisely the defense ministers of these 28 countries, plus i understand the secretary general of nato and the head of eu foreign policy, jose borel, and they, with the participation, by the way, of the ukrainian side, they want to speed up and

intensify these efforts here, and very a lot indeed politically, emmanuel macron is currently taking a lot of such measures before his visit to ukraine, so i hope that... olaf scholz will not lag behind in this regard either, and we do receive his leadership decision to provide ukraine with taurus missiles. the bundestag accepted such a proposal, the military, as i understand it, also do not see such drastic counter-responses there, so the question of the chancellor of germany is behind him, and it should not be the traditional competition between the historical and france, germany, in principle continues somewhere, but they are together allies in the eu and in nato, but this is the competition to really achieve leadership in security in europe, because the russian war against ukraine is not only about ukraine, unfortunately, it is happening here , but this is an ultimatum to europe,

an ultimatum to nato. and the last thing, why is this happening, the euro-atlantic competition, also don't forget that france at one time,... somewhere there, got out of some of nato's military instruments, tried to be one of the active founders of the western european union, there was such an organization that had to, well, essentially become an alternative to nato on the european continent, it did not reach this without the usa and canada, this organization has not existed since 2011, so i think that the second stage. this is exactly the conversation between emmanuel macron and joseph biden, i have no information about the plans for such a visit or meeting, but i have no doubt that after in the near future, i think such a meeting, it is absolutely logical, because chancellor olaf scholz was in

washington , and perhaps new transatlantic points will be considered there, because the ramstein format without additional packages of the us military. to be honest, it is not so bright now, because they always started with american aid, but there will be no alternative either, because without the united states, without its power and the amount of weapons, types of weapons, it will not be possible to do this either, but all these statements by the leaders are a good sign, you mentioned olaf scholz and the decision of the bundestag regarding long-range missiles and. but at the same time the minister of defense of the federal republic of germany boris pistorius says that long-range missiles will not be decisive for the conflict in ukraine, and germany is not going to cross that line, and it seems that pistorius and scholz

are being pushed to such a position by the russian intercepted conversations of the german military, which discuss a possible missile strike taurus on the crimean bridge, does this story, the spy story with the intercepted conversations, records of the german position and how much will they... restrain themselves in handing over the tauruses to us? it would be strange if this the story influenced the position of germany, rather it influenced the dialogue between the allies to ensure the secrecy of information, i.e. the opportunities for the russians, intelligence agencies and others to remove this information, this is the main thing that happened after this conversation was leaked there, and the second moment, which is very positive, that they are there... if it is true, if this conversation is true, then there are very correct, specific things being said, of a purely

technical nature. now regarding, if they say that taurus missiles can be used there in crimea, i'm sorry, so what? in us, ukraine observes all export control regimes, a sovereign country has the right to receive weapons from other countries, the more so the right with... the provision of the un charter, which germany is a member of the un, that is, ukraine also supports an even greater role for germany, so these missiles, when they , or other weapons that are already in our hands in ukraine, they are already our property, they are not the property of germany, so if there are concerns about providing some kind of technical support there, this can be resolved by training. trainings, it is firstly, secondly, sorry

, again, there were several arguments, then something would fly over moscow, then they said let the americans provide atakams, the americans provided atakams, well , i hope they will think now and make another package where there will be longer-range atakams. then, well, just what questions do you have, you are afraid of russia, you are afraid, well, they will come to you, if you continue to pull, then these are... rockets, daggers, that's all, no, not those nuclear weapons, what scares you there, the mosquitoes scare you, no, but all these drones will fly to you, and where are these rockets flying that are hitting sumy now, in kharkiv, in odesa, in zaporizhzhia, in kherson, that is, you want to avoid this, you will not avoid it, you have a unique opportunity now to concentrate efforts for ukraine on its territory, this is a tragedy for us, but we have every right to do so and... at least no one forbade us , not even on our territory, we can respond to attacks from the outside as well, well, we didn't, we

didn't say anywhere, and they know it very well, that ukraine is not trying to capture moscow, will not try to advance there to leningrad, no, but sorry, but if you us now you do not support us with such a cynical, very cynical position, and i do not agree with the german minister of defense that it is possible... missiles alone will not change, but if there are several hundred atakams, a hundred taurus, there will be f16, there will be all the means, and there will be motivation for ukrainians to stand in defense not only of ukraine, but of europe , and if not, i'm sorry, you will have them, i don't want to publicly say what these countries will face then, that is, they understand it perfectly, that's why politicians lag behind from their development, very much seriously, they are behind. certain lags, and germany needs to leave this completely phantom fear in the past. mr. valery,

against the background of how europe is trying to concentrate, now to gather and give answers to the questions that may appear before them very soon: china's special representative for eurasia lihui, he came and made a tour and he was in europe. went to kyiv, spoke with ukrainian officials and spoke, among other things, about the future of ukraine and russia, they have this peace plan, with which they always, which always articulate, but on the eve of this visit to kyiv, the ministry of foreign affairs of china announced the strengthening of russia's friendship with china, and the head of... the ministry of foreign affairs of china, wang yi, said this, and he said that we are ready

to create, work on the creation of new driving forces of cooperation, let's hear what he said. as key leading countries of the world and permanent members of the un security council, china and russia have developed a new paradigm of relations between major countries that differs from the outdated approach. semi-cold war, based on the rejection of blocs, no confrontation and without targeting any third party, china and russia strive for long-term good neighborliness. and friendship, deepening comprehensive strategic cooperation. china is willing to cooperate with russia for further development, creating new driving forces for cooperation and steadily strengthening the foundation of friendship between the two peoples. does the statement mean, mr. valery, that china is still ready to support russia, which is waging

an aggressive war against ukraine? there were several. i understand the position, i just don't know, well, how can it be with such a position as a mediator there speak, it is difficult to understand here, because after all, there is an obvious imbalance in the attitude towards russia and ukraine, even from the same reports in kyiv, when lihuevas met the representative of eurasia, china and exactly who is involved now, as you said, in all these trips, that is, there... the ukrainian crisis sounds in official reports, well , that is, well if, let's start at least with a phrase of recognition of the fact, what is happening, and then we can talk about something further, because if china will say that this is the ukrainian crisis and to ignore the dead children and women of ukraine from russian missiles, then i’m sorry,

but what can we talk about then, i think that our participants in this conversation are unlikely to have succeeded in changing china’s position, maybe china was just probing something else entirely, or is ukraine ready to give up its position? it is in the interests of china, and it is very difficult now, because china, unfortunately, uh, does not change this line, although it is constructive to prevent this rattling of nuclear weapons by russia and threats, i don't know, why not in this way you can talk about the question. well, it was talked about, but still achieving a result on the zaporizhzhia plant is the absolute seizure of a nuclear facility, this is something that china absolutely does not tolerate, and it would be a huge step forward if russia were forced by joint efforts not to use the nuclear facility that had just been seized stations in europe for such military purposes,

so in principle i do not expect china's position to change yet, but... to the extent of the change in the situation at the front and the increase of ukraine's capabilities and the decrease of russia's, i am sure that china will too will also be forced to adjust its position. you already mentioned another statement by vanya, you probably meant peace negotiations, now we will also listen to what the minister of foreign affairs of china said about possible peace negotiations, as he says, between ukraine and russia. in the ukrainian issue, china has always maintained an objective and fair position and has repeatedly sent special envoys to mediate. the president of the people's republic of china xijin ping personally held in-depth communication with the leaders of various countries, including russia and ukraine. all that we are did, aimed at one goal: to pave

the way and build bridges for the cessation of hostilities and the holding of peace negotiations. says that the official beijing started talking with the beginning of the great war about the fact that there are two sides, they should sit down at the table for negotiations, but there was no statement from the chinese side that russia should leave the territory of ukraine, and this is mediation , which they propose, what is it connected with, why they don't want, they don't want to fight with russia, they uh... they want russia to wear itself out in the war with ukraine with, well, our western partners who are helping us, that is, why is china reacting so passively to it? well, look, this is a very deep topic, i will not be responsible for china, i will only say one thing, if

someone thinks that in china, and somewhere else, they will press ukraine. if ukraine were to be forced to give up part of the territories to russia, which russia declared to be theirs, well, captured and currently occupied there, and to make peace on that, as they say, then this frees the hands, in many respects, not only of china, solve the conflicts that china has, including, are not yet military, but they are a force method, if we assume that such... it will be recognized that it is possible to force a sovereign country through various forceful efforts, military, precisely such a violation of all rules . of the un charter, well , in essence, annexation, and it can be recognized in such conditions, well, then

the same actions will unfold in other parts of the world, so i don't think that they want to fix the right of force in this way, well, i hope that just in they have a position of advantage for china, now they have russia, they use russia as they want , and you know, this is an advantageous position, such a russia that is weakening, that gives them everything economically, gives them a passage to the arctic and everything that is now given to china, as a vassal, as its suzerain, to them it is profitable, so why, i think so, on their part, why are they in a hurry , let's wait a little longer, that is, we will have our economic results, but for the ukrainians , for me, this is a rather cynical position, although i want to say... when something was happening in other parts of the world, and we looked at it that way it is far from us, and as it corresponds to our interests, here it can be recognized that each

country has its own national interests, its own vision, but in this matter, i would like to remind you that after all, china, if it was not a direct guarantor under the butopezhsky memorandum , then the statement was made then, but the same van'i. of china's foreign policy, he said in munich, replied that these commitments do not concern china's attack on ukraine with a nuclear attack. it seems to me that such statements, they very much change the truth of what is now, because from the point of view, well, you can of course give your own assessment of the legal one, but it is so cynically dry to talk about a hot war in europe that may pass. to south asia, and with great probability could have started in south asia, if putin had not climbed right

into the heart of geographically europe from here with his absolutely insane delusions. therefore, i really, really hope, i would like to hope, that it is only a matter of time before china will adopt a more balanced policy. today, according to my subjective, personal conclusions, despite... the huge role of china, which could play a role in the establishment of peace, a just peace, without violating the un charter, and china is calling for this, it could be just a more balanced position of china, i say to start with the fact that, for me, an indicator would be , for example, at least the phrase that this is not a ukrainian crisis, the ukrainian crisis, and the russian war against ukraine. mr. valery, yesterday the board of governors of the magathe supported by a majority of votes... the ukrainian resolution demanding that russia urgently remove all unauthorized personnel, including military personnel, from the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and immediately return it under the control of its nuclear

power plant under the control of ukraine. today, the general director of magat, raphael grosi , held a meeting with the president of the russian federation, vladimir putin, in sochi. i followed the propaganda media, well , i did not see anything so special there, that is, according to the report of the retreat. grosi sochi, this resolution that was passed by the magathe, that according to this resolution , there may be more in relation to russia's behavior, in relation to sanctions, in relation to russia, perhaps in relation to rosatom , is it possible at all, or is this resolution solely as an expression of concern, not more? let's be brief, i believe that we will lose now in magat, and there are purely technical points here. the country that is currently in the governing council, still, despite the fact that there is a delegation there, ah, it should now work to ensure

that russia gets out of the governing council, there during the rotation in june of this year, this can only be done actively position, diplomatic work, not purely specialized expert work, which can be done by the representatives of energoatom or the ministry of energy. namely diplomatic, because this practice is only in a few countries and in that one including ours, that our delegation is headed by energy experts, not diplomats, in other countries there are 35 countries, there are diplomats, and we have to talk with them, there are different countries, and our embassy at international organizations in vienna, it is currently in such a state of transit from the point of view of management, the new one is just as intended, but as far as i understand, it has not reached there. and our work is very technical, there you have to constantly submit notes, constantly work, it slipped a little, and then i look like this, well, such an emphasis on

this issue. throw russia out of this body there is no moreover, grosi is meeting with putin. grosy, when they ask him, it is now director mate, they ask him when he is at the zaporozhye station, the russian military with machine guns are fully equipped, they say, we will provide, we welcome you to our russian land, and he nods and goes on. that is, you understand what is happening, yes , that is, it is not that there is no balance here, it is very far from a solution, i am very afraid that they... will wring our hands so that everything will simply come under the effective control of russia, and in as a result, explaining this with nuclear threats , as a result, russia does not change fuel to nuclear anymore, we no longer monitor which blocks they connect, which ones disconnect, our employees are simply already there, as far as i know, the russians have not been able to rotate there or get their own there doesn't

want to, it's only partially here, and there aren't that many specialists and... they're already exhausted, there's already a big, well, very threatening situation, and this threatening situation is, well , absolutely not yet, i don't see how it would be resolved, and grosi's meeting with putin in sochi does not inspire me at all, well, the world could do more regarding atomic energy in russia, they are building a lot, rosatom is building a lot around the world, or would that stop russia? sanctions, because this is a very large item of income of the russian budget, we can say anything hypothetically, but all these packages regarding the wolverine, regarding this are hanging, hanging and not accepted, moreover, i will tell you, there are levers of influence, if on russia will really be pressed in a consolidated way, then china would also be here with india, for example, nothing would be in favor, would not offer anything, that is, this joint decision could be the usa and european countries,

consolidated, started without sanctions. but for now, even let's be honest , we have, well, in spite of that, such a resolution, that's all , well, it's such a mandatory program, and such drastic efforts, i'm not saying that i see all the solutions, no, i just see that in international terms, as soon as there is something like a zaporozhye station in germany or even in the usa in france, people's attention is drawn to this, and we do not highlight this issue in any way. thank you sir valery, thank you for the conversation, it was a politician, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america in 2015-19, valery chaly, we, friends, work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, if you are watching us live now, please don't forget to like this video, so that you don't get ahead of youtube trends, and take part in our voting, because

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