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the policy they propose , what it is related to, why they don't want, they don't want to quarrel with russia, they want russia to be exhausted in a war with ukraine, with, well, our western partners who help us, that is, why china reacts so passively to this, well, look, this is a very deep topic, i will not be responsible for china, i will only say one thing, if someone thinks, in china, and where, where else, that they will press ukraine so that ukraine is forced to give part of the territories to russia, and which russia has declared that they are theirs, well, captured and occupied there today, and to make peace on this, as they say, then it frees up the hands, in many respects, not only of china, to resolve conflicts that exist in china
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, including, so far not military, but they are a force method. if we assume that in this way it will be recognized that it is possible to force a sovereign country, with various forceful efforts , military, exactly such a violation of all rules, the un charter, well, in essence, annexation, and it can be recognized, in such conditions, well then in other the same actions will unfold in other parts of the world, so i don't think they want to this is how to fix the right of force, well, i hope that they simply have a position of advantage for china now, they have with russia, they use russia as they want, and you know, this is an advantageous position, a weak russia, which is weakening, which is everything to them economically gives, gives a passage to the arctic and everything that is...
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good now gives to china, as a vassal, as its suzerain, it is beneficial to them, so why, i think so, on their part, why are they in a hurry, let's wait a little longer, that is, and we will have our economic results, but, well, for ukrainians this is, for me, this is a rather cynical position, although i want to say, when something happened in other parts of the world, and we looked at it in such a way that it was far from us. and how it suits our interests, here it can be recognized that each country has its own national interests, its own vision, but in this matter, i would like to remind you that after all, china, if it was not a direct guarantor under the budapest memorandum, made its statement then, but the same wang ye, the head of china's foreign policy, he said in munich, replied that these commitments refer to... not china's attack on
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ukraine with a nuclear attack, it seems to me, statements, they greatly change the truth , what is now, because from a legal point of view , of course, you can give your own assessment, but it is so cynical and dry to talk about a hot war in europe, which can move to south asia and with great probability could would have started in south asia, if putin had not entered with... his absolutely base delusions right here right into the heart of geographical europe, so i really , really hope, but i would like to hope that it is only a matter of time, so that china will still take over more balanced politics today, according to my subjective, personal conclusions, despite the huge role of china, which could play the establishment of peace, a just peace, without violating the un charter and china
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calls for it, there could be a more balanced position of china . to begin with, i say , an indicator for me would be, for example, at least the phrase that this is not a ukrainian crisis, a ukrainian crisis, but a russian war against ukraine. mr. valery, yesterday the governing board of the magat supported by a majority of votes the ukrainian resolution demanding russia urgently remove all unauthorized from the zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant. personnel, including the military, and immediately return her, well, her nuclear power plant under the control of ukraine. today, magat general director rafael grossi held a meeting with the president of the russian federation vladimir putin in sochi, i monitored the propaganda media, but i did not see anything special there, that is , according to the report, grossi was visited in sochi, this resolution was adopted by magat, that according to this resolution ...
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may be in relation to the behavior of russia, in relation to sanctions, with regard to russia, perhaps with regard to rosatom , is it possible at all, or is this resolution solely as a statement for... no more worries, let's be brief, i believe that we will lose now in magat, and there are purely technical points here, ukraine, which is currently in the board of governors, still, despite the fact that there is a delegation there, should now work on getting russia out of its board of governors, there during the rotation in june this year, this can only be done actively. the position of diplomatic work, not purely specialized expert work, which can be done by representatives of the ministry of energy or the ministry of energy, namely the diplomatic ministry, because this is the practice only in a few countries, including ours, where our delegation is headed by energy officials, not
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diplomats, in other countries there are 35 countries, there are diplomats, and you have to talk to them, there are different countries, and our embassy at the international organizations in vienna is currently in such a... transit state from the point of view of management, the new one is scheduled for a visit, but as far as i understand, it has not yet arrived, and we also have a lot of work to do but technical, you need to be there all the time to submit notes, constantly work , she slipped a little, and then i look like this, well , there is no such emphasis on this issue of throwing russia out of this body, moreover, money meets putin, money, when he is asked this... now the director of the mot they ask when he is at the zaporozhye station , the russian military with assault rifles are fully equipped, they say, we will provide, we welcome you to our russian land, and he nods and goes on, that is, you understand what is happening, yes, that is, there is something wrong here no, this is very far from a solution, i am very
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i am afraid that they will wring our hands so that all of this will come under the effective control of russia and as a result... explaining this with nuclear threats, as a result, russia is not changing its fuel to nuclear, we are no longer monitoring which blocks they connect, which ones they are shutting down, our employees there are simply already, as far as i know, the russians could not rotate there or no one wants to bring their own there, then only partially, and there are not so many specialists, and ours are already exhausted, a big, well, very threatening situation, and this threatening situation she... well, absolutely no way yet, i don't see how it would be resolved, and grosi's meeting with putin in sochi does not inspire me at all. well , that is, the world could do more with regard to nuclear energy in russia, they are building a lot,
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rosatom is building a lot around the world, whether it would stop sanctions on russia, because it is a very large item of income of the russian budget. we can say whatever we want. not hypothetically, but these are all packages related to rosatom, regarding this, they hang, hang and are not accepted, more moreover, i will tell you, there are towers of influence, if they really put pressure on russia in a consolidated way, then china would be here with india, for example, would not have anything, would not offer anything, that is, this joint decision could be the united states and the countries of europe, consolidated, it started without sanctions , but so far i don't even, let 's be honest, and we have, well, despite that... such a resolution, that's all, it's such a mandatory program, and such drastic efforts, i'm not saying that i see all the solutions, no, i just see that internationally, just like in france, something about the zaporozhye station in in germany, or even in the usa,
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people's attention is focused on this, and we are not highlighting this issue in any way now, thank you, mr. valery, for the conversation, this was a politician, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine in the connecting... states of america in 2015-19 valery chaly. we, friends, work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. if you are there watching us live now, please do not forget to like this video, in order not to advance in youtube trends. well and take part in our vote, because today we ask you about this, do you approve of the appointment of a diligent ambassador to great britain? you see on the... phone numbers on their screens, those who watch telecast 0800 211 381 if you approve, this appointment no 0.800 211 382 we will now look at the interim results of this survey, 47% yes, 53% no, well, almost 50 to
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50, who approves, who does not approve, on youtube it is also 50 to 50, this is a unique phenomenon, when our tv viewers, viewers on youtube and on tv are divided. half, someone supported it the appointment of a stalwart ambassador to great britain, someone not. greetings, dear tv viewers, on the air of the tv channel studio zahid program, we will analyze the most important events of this week. our guests today are roman bezsmertny and oleksandr morozov. our first guest is the iconic ukrainian politician and diplomat roman bezsmertny. glory to ukraine, mr. roman, i congratulate you. glory to the heroes, i congratulate you, mr. antin. mr. roman, what we see now, we feel that putin is using a certain window of opportunity. in particular,
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when we talk about the situation in the united states states and when we see the projection on the great front of the russian-ukrainian war, in particular in the east, the extraordinary activation of the enemy, we understand that the united states will mature sooner or later, but the critical situation is already present. diplomatic artillery will now enter the battle. and the first such signal is two initiatives , one came from ankara, with which the president of turkey, tayyip erdogan, spoke about the fact that he would be happy to provide a platform for dialogue-negotiations, and the second, the special envoy of the chinese people's republic of lihui. it is interesting that the spokeswoman for the ministry of foreign affairs
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of china, mao ning, and answering the question of a journalist from the global times, this is a newspaper of the chinese communists, about what is the purpose of this trip in principle, she said about such things that it was very, very delicately covered here and actually named both the reason and... the goal that the situation at the front prompts the parties, in beijing's view, to a high probability of dialogue. it is clear that, in this situation, envoy lihui could not fail to first go to moscow according to the instructions. and such a meeting took place with the former ambassador of the russian federation to japan, just during the events of february 2022, and now lavrov's deputy, where
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the meeting took place, and in the final, final information for the mass media it was said that in moscow, i almost quote, china and russia an agreement was reached that it is unacceptable without the participation of russia. consider the issue of the ukrainian dialogue. at the same time, this is no longer in the chinese statement, but it is in the russian one. all other unilateral initiatives from both the west and ukraine only complicate the situation, the road to possible dialogue. it will seem strange to some, but at this very moment, and in these same days, starting from february 20, 8, because this story began to be launched and this operation began to work from february 28. foren uffers, one
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of the most popular foreign policy publications, in particular, yesterday on the 5th, there was an article authored by two well-known experts in this field, samoel charap and shapiro, they ... by the way, both are regular participants of the valdai format and conference, which constantly takes place in russia, they are the authors of the well-known monograph of 2014, which is called "ukrainian crisis" (two dots) will lose everyone, where it is written on several pages, under the heading "path to diplomacy", or how to start... negotiations between russia and ukraine, instructions on how one and
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the other side should act and what to do in order to painlessly sit down at the negotiating table. this diplomatic artillery, it will increase its caliber in the coming months, because the reason for this is not that... ukrainian troops left avdiyivka, because this is how beijing presents it, this is how the two authors i mentioned above write about it, but the reason is that russia... does not have the strength to develop these events, and therefore it needs a pause now in order to gather strength. i don't know if they understand in ankara, from my point of view everything is simpler there , because erdogan is solving his issues, because the formation of the budget begins next year, on the 25th, without tariffs, and where without volumes
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of gas pumping, without trade with russia . which is growing for turkey, well, it is difficult to do, in china it is easier, china is simply following another instruction from the kremlin, and is fulfilling its role in these diplomatic voyages, and we will see now how in this situation, brazil will catch fire, silva delula, although the chair is already burning under him due to the situation inside the country, but where will you go here, how should the assignment be decided. coming from moscow and beijing, to be exact, now there will be new proposals from african peacemakers and so on, i think that the saudis will also be included and included and so on, that is, another storm is coming, even the first meetings, which lihuey spent in europe in brussels, he
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met with the heads of two departments, well, let's call it the ministry. of foreign affairs of the european union, to be clear. it is interesting that the meeting itself, the meeting itself took place in a rather harsh tone, where the representatives of the european community very clearly indicated that if china continues to supply russia with components for such weapons as cruise missiles, cabs, airplanes and so on, then the number of sanctions will increase, so the position... lihui on behalf of china and the chinese ambassador to the eu, who was present at the meeting, was unequivocal: we do not send lethal weapons to russia, we do not add fuel to the flame, we want to be constructive and to add to the need
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for a dialogue only chinese wisdom, i almost quote from what was printed on... written, said inside this dialogue, to which the european representatives responded quite harshly, that we are ready to exchange information and be in a dialogue, but china must draw conclusions, because china leaves no other option for the european union than to increase sanctions and reduce trade with china due to the fact that it is. helps russia to bomb ukraine. it already consists of these components the situation regarding the next months of maneuvers that will be carried out by moscow is clear. mr. roman, you have very correctly described the two main tracks, the russian-chinese and euro-atlantic tracks, correct? well,
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we, ukraine, also participate in the euro-atlantic track. but there is an additional track that calls. the emergence of donald trump as a serious political figure who can fundamentally change the situation, it is not known in which direction. mr. antin, very wise, it is not known in which situation, although from my point of view today it is already possible to predict if the winner will be trump, because i understand internally that knowing all the american elections, as much as i can say that... i know, today it is too early to be sure that it is trump, but god is with him, the answers to this question would rather be heard by our compatriots, they want to hear arguments for, against and so on. the situation that's unfolding now is damn near identical to, similar to, 1979, 1980. let me remind you, this is actually
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the coming... to power and the election of ronald reagan, probably those who remember, or those who read, know that on november 4, 1979 in tehran, as a result of the seizure of the embassy, 60 hostages of american diplomats were taken, they were released, they were released to america, on november 4, a few minutes later, when reagan took the oath, for a long time, everyone broke their spears, what happened that... exactly on november 4 in a year , they were captured, life will take us through a famous military operation, which was called a plate
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of rice, it was also called eagle kyego, it had many names, where the carter administration simply failed, and during this operation, the military asked it to be canceled, although 10, i think 10... soldiers died, a lot of equipment was lost, but after a few minutes, as soon as reagan was inaugurated, the hostages were released, what happened when they asked the newly elected president, ronald reagan, what were you doing, what you managed to achieve a result so quickly, he said, i didn’t do it, my people worked, after a few years it will be known that the so-called reagan people needed 40 million dollars to bribe the leadership of iran, including this money
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got into the hands, not homani, homei, no khomeini, and khomeini, well, the predecessor of the current one, in order for them not to give these hostages to carter, as the president at that time, the situation is currently developing in the following scenario: pay attention to when mike johnson was elected speaker of the house of representatives, you must remember that the elections this time will be held, well, as it should be, on the second tuesday, that is, it will be the fifth tuesday, the first tuesday after the first, the first weekend of the month of november, it will be the fifth, on the fifth the americans will go to the polls, they will vote, depending. from that, and from my point of view, few people here can say, depending on what, because it does not matter in principle, there will be a vote somehow, if similar decisions that were
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last week by the supreme court, which were made in favor of trump, do not decide the problem in advance, because including this vote, pay attention, mike johnson comes out of the president's office, says: the election in ukraine will be voted on when it is necessary. a unique phrase. this phrase suggests that it is uttered by an inexperienced person, but a person who is in the information field, which understands where the breakthrough can come, or from whom it can come. so, this scenario that we see then, in 1980, is very similar in what it is. now, years will pass, just like now, because what i said became known only about eight, seven years ago, before that, it was just after
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reagan's death that they started talking about it more, journalists started digging, found out about these funds that were transferred to the persians and so on, and then a full stop was put, which was not very much loved now, which the americans don't like to talk about very much, but in this drama that is developing now, it is quite similar in terms of the scenario, and you have to understand that among americans , just like among ukrainians, there are people for whom everything is absolutely equal, how many of those who were held hostage then died, how many american soldiers died who tried to save them, these are people with a completely different character, their cynicism, their thirst for power, it pushes them to any steps, and trump's theme is actually... there is no essence and content of that, that sometimes happens in politics, and here, when they tell me that trump says that he
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will be like that, mr. antin, i want to emphasize once again, i perfectly understand that whoever, however reagan comes to power, his efforts the soviet empire was collapsed, and i am convinced that the military lobby, which is behind ... trump, in the event of his victory, will do a lot to destroy russia. and the theses that trump will go to flirt with the moscow führer, they are aimed at the ukrainians breaking spears with trump now. i warn you in advance ukrainian leaders, there is no need to interfere in that process, as much as possible today, we need to get help from everyone, including the united states of america. but not to get into that process so much that after november 4th we regret that we got involved in that process, and i fully agree here. the point of view
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of boris johnson, because he is a person and an expert, and a journalist, journalism, as a creative person is given to feel these subtleties, and the argument he makes about trump, it is serious enough to be ignored, so from my point of view, and these parallels of '79 , '80, and the current course of events with the delay, the vote... in the house of representatives, they are very reminiscent of all these things, by the way, it's in the nature of the republicans, they have not once took place in political battles through such processes, and i will say this now, as a person who is outside the processes of power, i want to warn and explain to ukrainians, ukrainian officials, that these american phenomena
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should be treated as... american phenomena, which do we need now you know, internally, i am more wary of the ukrainian power corridors and their inability to counter such things than of society, the army, and so on, because these things, the army, society, defense forces, they are very stable and strong, but what arise all the time in the political system, and its essence... is that there is one drawback that continues to live: the government ignores the opposition's position, it is impossible and inadmissible to do this in conditions of war. how much has already been said about the examples that happened and so on, because what will happen as soon as the situation escalates and it will be necessary to take some serious steps, the lack of this dialogue on... will definitely
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lead to a serious conflict in the capital, on the streets of the capital, this is a very dangerous thing, therefore, as much as possible, the idea of national unity, which should have been implemented through the government of national unity, through some coordination council of national unity and so on, this must be done, because it's another thing like, he was not released abroad, against him he was released, they issued a non-excuse of the accusation and so on. in the information field can lead to very serious tension. now, one more thing: it is clear that in such a situation they are being activated from the outside, and here it is very important that we distinguish between macron’s idea from the point of view of its rational content and essence, and the idea of lihuey, who is simply moscow’s envoy in the ukrainian corridors, because i want to draw attention
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to one thing the chinese foreign ministry spokeswoman, answering the question of the same journalist, thanked the ukrainian and russian sides for constructive cooperation and objective information to beijing. i was a little surprised by this alignment, well, for dictatorial reds offices typically put the victim and the aggressor on the same level, i understand that, so in... in these points, there is no difference between ukraine and russia, there are both sides, it is only used that way as a last resort, but this thank you alarmed me a little, because it is necessary to understand that since both ankara and beijing passed by ankara, today beijing is making sure that warring ukraine, according to the results of this year, still receives 6.7 million tons of grain from china. yes,
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this is necessary, imagine a warring country, the one who helps the aggressor, and also sells grain because he has problems with food, and this representative minister, the minister of foreign affairs at the munich conference, the minister of china one, to christoph heusgen's question, why do you not fulfill the budapest memorandum, he said, and we did not sign it. it was signed by the british, the americans, and the ukrainians, and when heitzden objected to him that the security council voted for the document, he added that we have nothing to do with the situation that has developed, so i think these are chinese-beijing scripts moscow wisdom is already sitting in the livers, and the point is that i want to emphasize again, these are things that...
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