well, because it doesn't matter much, the balance doesn't matter much, people who should be balancers, but don't know how to do it, so all this talk that valery zaluzhny there in the position of ambassador to great britain will be engaged in purchases of arms , will the country, which is such an important ally of ours, have great authority , of course, it all sounds very beautiful, and before people who spoke like that, they for... talk , wrote, will go to the soviet communist press, it was a special talent, i would especially like these people from facebook, as if somehow i would pull them by the ears, by the nose, and send them to 1982, where there was a front page in the pravda newspaper, the front page in the izvesti newspaper, and they always always always explained in this way that, let's say, if there is no bread, then this a huge harvest was collected by her agricultural workers in smolensk. region

, this is beautiful, this too can only cause envy, the ability to call black white, white black, not seeing something with the eyes, has no meaning, in the end it means that the idea is simple, that if valery zaluzhnyk, according to sociology, is a competitor of volodymyr zelenskyi in the illusory presidential elections, will not be in ukraine, then his... will decrease, the rating of the president will increase, i don't even want to think in such categories, because firstly, i don't understand why should i talk about ratings in a country where presidential elections may not be held for many more years, and where the enemy is hunting for the incoming president to destroy him, why not, i should be interested in the survival of the president of ukraine, what his rating is, that's the main thing , so that he was alive and healthy, because there is a huge probability that the russians will try to... deprive

us of the current president so that we don't have a president, this is one moment, the second moment, the popularity rating is worth it, this is the rating of a person with whom the vast majority of ukrainians relate is the preservation of the country's statehood in the most responsible for us in 2022, when it seemed to many that ukraine could disappear in a few weeks, remember? i will tell you honestly that now this danger is not less, but an idea. about the level of danger in humans otherwise, and this is an important thing, because what is very important is not what happens in reality, but what happens in the heads of people, especially in the heads of ukrainian people, because they know how to perceive reality in such a special way, which does not always coincide with that reality, which is under their window, but on the other hand, what does the window have to do with the rating, and so there is no, there is no knowledge. in which place

valery zaluzhny will be, the rating of the mythologized, how to say it, player, he, valerich even not a player, he never said that he would run for president, never once showed political ambitions, never once quarreled with the president, the player is not like that, he is an unworthy player, a player the image of a worthy person, the image of a worthy person will not even suffer. if you send him as an ambassador to, i don't know, to cape verde, don't you remember, the russians wanted to send, my god, we even remember such names, where she, where she went or not , didn't go, no, she didn't go, but she is somewhere, she was forbidden to speak and give interviews, because she cried when the war started in ukraine, that you shouldn't cry, you should rejoice, it doesn't matter, let's forget it, it's something from my intimate experiences, to put it briefly.

rating, the rating will not be affected by this , how important is it for the general to head the embassy, ​​well, in principle, well, in principle , if we still believe that such a highlight of our state is that it is possible, how could i tell you, now i will try intelligently speak out, but will have to tell a joke when the pianist. walking down the street, he met one of his friends who was famous as a music critic, and this second one says to him: you know, i have a concert, i will play on the piano , come with me, even if you listen to how i play, says rubinstein, and what will i do at your concert, i am a pianist, he says, i 'll hand you the sheet music, well, they came, they're friends, so the critic sat down, and it means something pathetic is playing there. beethoven's symphony

ta-ta-ta-tam, and rubinstein flips through the notes and tomorrow there was a review the next day in a good newspaper it was written that an absolutely amazing concert, the best concert of the century, the one who had to play the grand piano flipped the notes... the one who had to flip the notes played the grand piano. the ukrainian management of everything is set up exactly on this idea: the one who has to play the piano flips the notes, and the one who has to flip the notes, as a rule, plays the piano without showing skill, but from the point of view of the ukrainian voter, if a person doesn't play well on the grand piano, then let her play, because she will learn, that's the idea, she will learn, it's just here bababah, here baba... baba bah, and yes, in four or five years she will break a certain number of grand pianos, i am not interested in anything, by the way, it can be another musical instrument, it is just that in the anecdote, a grand piano, but i am just this is the first source, and in the end this

royal, well, it starts with it becomes clear that could have just voted for a mechanical piano, but either way that's a recipe for any now. civil servant, so i do not see anything so excessive in the fact that her former commander-in-chief of the armed forces will head the embassy in london, i just hope that the commander-in-chief of the armed forces they haven't already appointed a deputy minister of foreign affairs there, this is progress, it means we are getting closer to some kind of balance of understanding that in some places, well , certain structures should be managed by people who can distinguish. a tank with a machine gun, huh, and in general, what do you think of the trend for military personnel to become politicians, diplomats and so on, someone in ukraine is afraid of this and say, oh, no, no, the history of pinochet should teach us and the world in general everything else. of course, only politicians can be

pop actors or television performers, because this work is definitely a direct path, a direct path to political success, that's it. a straight line is straight, but soldiers are not, well, what are you, if a person is not, he can sing comic verses a couple of months before the start of political activity, how will he cope with the management of the state, what are you, there is no need to insult us here, if you are serious, the question it's not whether a person is a television actor or a general or a banker, it's how much... that person has political flair, if you don't have flair, you you won't become an actor if you don't have talent, you won't become a politician, people, a voter can just vote for a certain person, he can't vote for the actor of the main role in the tv series, but it's a pity, but you and i always voted for brad pita there, he would play in the best ukrainian

tv series, but he can vote for the president or for a deputy, and this person can either learn or not learn how to be, not wrong, not how to be politically gifted, not how to be. . to be politically gifted, and this is an absolutely obvious story, so in history different states had absolutely brilliant generals who became politicians and saved their countries. the best example of all times and peoples is general charles de gaulle, there was also an outstanding politician, emperor napoleon bonaparte, he was also a professional military man, he was a military man, he is a budding political figure in any case, you can treat him differently . i understand that emmanuel macron does not treat him differently, i have such a suspicion, but it is like this, there was a wonderful politician, general dwight eisenhower, he was a professional military man, and there were people who did and, by the way, general agusta pinache was also a professional soldier

who became a strong political figure in the conditions of an authoritarian state, i am absolutely not in favor of general panenchet, but the fact that he is a person with political flair is a fact. there were other generals who led countries , lost power, brought these countries to tsugunder, you can remember them, they are in many countries, they are such examples, well again, not until the moment when a person leads a country, you will never know , in the very fact of election a person with a military education or with a general's epaulettes as the head of state. there is nothing negative, the only question is how this person will cope with the challenge, because on the one hand, military education gives a person the opportunity to plan management, well, this

is precisely his level of competence, on the other hand, military education does not involve understanding the variability of the situation and respect to... a different opinion, general esenhauer was capable of such respect, general degaulle not so much, despite all his abilities, he was a man, one might say, who perceived exclusively. himself as a leader, and this is also an important moment, it’s just that france, at the moment , for the two moments when general de gaulle played such a big role in recent history, needed just such a leader, well, again , these are different things, we saw that in israel, let's say, the elite is half made up of generals, there are successful politicians, there are completely unsuccessful ones, there are people who change the very situation in israel politically, there are people who many... who head the general staff there are considered an example of a strong professional military , then when comes to politics, absolutely everything

is destroyed, all their authority, because it is imagined that as generals, they were in their place, as politicians, no, how, if you ask me about valery the brave, it depends solely on the fact that will happen if he engages in politics and becomes the president of ukraine, can it happen, of course it can, of course it is possible, someone will be the president of ukraine after the end of the war. and after the presidential elections, it is unlikely that it will be the current president, well, i will tell you right away, some person most likely, the incumbent president will win, even if he is a participant in the elections, this is the law of war, but whether it will be valeriy luzhnyi, i don’t know, it may be completely different options, it may not be in 2020, on the fourth, in 2034 , you understand, we are some. real, i would say, prerequisites for the war to end in some

near future do not exist in nature. again, the ukrainians are inventing something, but there is no need to invent, russia is not going to end this war, it is not going to end any conduct negotiations. the most we can do is push it back to our borders one day and fight for it there. martial law and hold elections, well, in principle, anything can happen , military and local elections were held in israel in the conditions of the war against hamas, but the war against hamas is taking place on the territory of the gas sector, on the territory of israel, when we will hold war, let's say on the border, we will have some kind of buffer zone there, we will know that we can hold some kind of elections on the entire territory of the country, of course, we will take into account the missile attacks, drones there, all this will continue, well, then it will be possible to at least talk about it, but we have to live until this and again, not everyone will live to see it, that is, they have to talk about it. those who will survive, not us, we don't know who, it's a lottery, we don't know which of us will be able to take part in

this debate, because we have to, well, to be honest, and i could die there in a week from or a year from rocket fire, and those who we are being watched, we can die, well, this is war, you have to be sober about it, and not think that everyone there is eternal, and that this projectile will definitely hit someone else, not you, no, maybe you, this is a normal situation during the war. mr. vitaly , we have already talked about the elections and their prospects, or rather, not our prospects, but in the russian federation , what they call elections, should happen very soon, and on the eve of all this , quite interesting things are happening, maybe i made up my mind, you will refute it now, but it is low embassies, which means authoritative western countries, inform their citizens to be careful, and many people remember how exactly putin ensured his coming to power... justified the second chechen campaign in general and actually mobilized a large

number of russians for it, and here the question arises, this something similar is happening now, that is , can the fsb resort to such actions in order to justify for russian society the continuation of the svo in the future and the need to elect putin himself. i think several hours so there was a report that the federal security service, ugh, arrested two citizens of kazakhstan, ugh. who were preparing a terrorist act in a moscow synagogue, and this is already news, that is, some events are taking place there, they do not necessarily have to be organized, they may be connected with the fact that they are also capable of losing control, ugh, that's what they can prepare a terrorist attack in order to unite people around putin, this is also absolutely their technique, they can want the russians to see that not everything is like that... it's safe, but you don't have to relax, to relax, otherwise you somehow relaxed

, you do not feel the war, you think that all this is not happening here, you do not perceive putin as the guarantor of your safety and survival, but you have to perceive, and we will do you right away, now we will turn on something like that, it is absolutely logical, especially since they have already done it, but they have been doing it for as long as 24 years ago, 25%. and i think that many who remember how it all happened, already at such an adult age , a whole generation of people grew up that... who are 25 years old, or 30, they just don't remember it, all this atmosphere of horror, ugh, they have lived there for 30 years in conditions of relative stability, no large-scale terrorist actions, no explosions of buildings, a war somewhere in ukraine, well , of course, we will soon win and that means everyone destroy, but everything is fine with us,

it is necessary, it means an additional level of danger, it can be involved, that is, if such a decision is made. there, as you remember, the secretary of the security council, this is general patrushev, who was the organizer of all these explosions of buildings, nothing has changed, even the same people, and i think that mr. patrushev has this bag of grexogen at home, which he simply took out of his closet and carried to the stadium, or his bodyguard, it doesn’t matter, that is , you don’t even need to order anything, because in them since the days of ryazan, i think that mr. patrisha hid this package with hexane somewhere at home. away from my wife, and now i can safely use it, ugh, and that's all, finally, let's remind you that today is march 9, and ukraine celebrates the birthday of taras hryhorovych shevchenko, it's shevchenko days, these are events related to the commemoration of his memory, after all, the writing of the shevchenko

prize, and we already know about the laureates, but i have a question for you, well, a huge bunch. artists, ukrainian artists in particular, the russian federation has appropriated, well, among artists, everything that comes to mind, ripin, pymonenko, is permissible, and malevich, for example, this applies to artists of many and different arts, but shevchenko, no, shevchenko, they are against they fight him, shoot down monuments, he is directly the number one enemy for them, not just some unloved person there. son of the russian empire, relatively speaking, but the real enemy, in soviet times, taras shevchenko's work was taught in the course of russian literature, he was there, well, it was just in ukraine where these pages were turned, because he was familiar with ukrainian literature, on the territory of all in the soviet union, shevchenko was perceived as a russian writer, and so were they, this

was also an important moment, i am not sure that he is an enemy for them, because the monument to shevchenko is standing in moscow, they will not... er dismantle it, they don't rename her surnames and streets avenues that are named after shevchenko, i think that they simply have another shevchenko, shevchenko, who was an academician of the st. petersburg academy of sciences, a friend of the russian democrats, and this shevchenko, let's say, was created by the bolsheviks, because as you understand, such a shevchenko never existed, and they are russian. the democrats did not like shevchenko very much, well, this shevchenko is absolutely beneficial to them, because why would they destroy him, they still hope to use him after they occupy ukraine in from the usual perspective for them, as russian and ukrainian writers, as part of this great russian civilization, just people who wrote in a dialect, so from our

point of view, the fight against shevchenko is a kind of main task... of russian propaganda, and i it seems that the main task of russian propaganda is to reinterpret shevchenko, well, they always tried to do just that, reinterpret shevchenko, because by and large they needed people everywhere who were like, you know, i would say, like little pushkins, there was supposed to be a big pushkin for the entire soviet union, again, this is the soviet one... and i will give a little pushkin shevchenko, dzhambul in kazakhstan, yakub kolos or yanka kupala in belarus, so that it becomes clear that pushkin - this is our thing, and these are people who are somewhere in the shadows, well, these little funny literary girls that we

allow to be, well, and it didn't start immediately, as you understand, that pushkin was returned. in the iconostasis of soviet culture in 137, when everything was burning, people were shot in basements by the thousands and in general no one knew whether he would return home or not come to him at night, they organized such a celebration of pushkin's anniversary, so i think that russian propaganda is dangerous because it mystifies reality. mystifies people's images, and mystifies creativity, because a large part of shevchenko's legacy was either banned or... or, i would say, overemphasized, uh, in soviet times, i always find it strange, even it was, in principle, shevchenko wrote everything about russian empire, about the essence

of russian statehood, but it is somehow it was perceived that he was fighting the capitalists, the bourgeois, as a people, we the people, but now you see, shevchenko's dreams came true when the ukrainian and russian proletarians united, and now everything is fine, that's all, everything. what happened, let's read the will, because it was executed by comrade lenin and stalin, and this is absolutely not true, by the way, i would still like to tell you that i think there are a lot of worthy laureates this year shevchenko prize and our colleagues who shot the film 20 days in mariupol, which now has a world fame and the director, we wish him good luck at the oscars, and the director ivan oryvskyi , together with his colleagues who staged this famous play

the witch of konotop, have you seen it, no, i have not seen it, because it cannot be seen, there is no such thing amazing show, it's on, everyone has seen it, there are no tickets, i'm always checking this whole, how can i say it, possibilities, well , there's no possibility, well, i'll wait, i'll see , i think now. the more there will be even more attention, so there is a chance to see, i at least i hope so, but i would like to say especially about jamal's shevchenko award, because i believe that the fact that she received this award for her album kerim is a continuation of shevchenko's tradition in its purest form, because shevchenko is by and large recreated the ukrainian nation in... when this ukrainian nation had no real political and cultural importance to recreate itself and what we got in general is a construct,

a construct, without which ukrainians would not be what we know, that is man with her creativity, these poems, this creation of her world, she actually created a world for a whole nation, ugh, and you could always understand who was ukrainian, then from... just by the houses in which there was a kobzar, or a book, or a portrait, or both the book and the portrait , and this is an absolutely amazing thing , a non-ukrainian did not understand, because why did these russian democrats understand it, for them it was just bad poems, yes, they simply did not understand what was in it, and this is exactly the moment when this very spirit of the nation is felt in poetry, that tries to preserve and strengthen, a very rare thing, by the way, in world culture, when poetry... is not just an attempt to express oneself, one's flower, to share one's emotions, let's say so, to paint some kind of picture, namely

to preserve, to be created, to become a program, by the way, here is guernica picasso, a very good example of the same description, too, when the artist creates something that is essentially a reflection of the soul of the nation in its civilizational sense of the word, and not about... a picture that can be viewed or painted, and that's jamal, by and large in this album, it is exactly the same opportunity to construct the crimean-tatar cultural world in conditions when the crimean tatars themselves are deprived of such an opportunity, they are under occupation, they are actually marginalized by the occupying power, not for the first time, because this happens periodically there once in a certain historical period since the annexation of crimea by catherine ii. not even vladimir putin, and here someone simply takes this culture as such and creates a work of art from it, which obviously will not allow the crimean tatars

to forget about themselves, as shevchenko did not allow for ukrainians to forget about themselves, i don’t want to compare scaling now, of course, i ’m comparing the tradition, because it was very strange for me in... 2023 to meet an example of such creativity, which i thought had already been lost, which is a feature, not even 20th and 19th centuries, because this is such a large-scale task that we once perceived, you know, in some great classics of literature, or it could be at the level of a song, this is also true, which child fiaf and france or. rodrigues, who created there, reconstructed the fado genre in in portugal, we see the portuguese soul through this, in principle, this re-construal of the use of the genre, the soul, that is, once upon a time...

a girl can understand the soul of her own people so much that then this people perceives their soul through her songs, if we need to understand what france looks like , we listen , and the french listen, the question arises that they did not know this before the edif, obviously not, and the same thing happens with this work of jamala, and it is about a small people, because there are people, there are many millions, as ukrainians they can... offer at once several such cultural attempts in literature, in song, in the visual arts, when it comes to small people, then such an achievement, i think, is simply worth not only the shevchenko prize, but at least our awareness of the scale of the task , so that you and i don't touch on other topics before the end of our conversation, i'll

be honest with you. i will say that in any case, every anniversary of shevchenko is an opportunity to think in one way or another about the fact that he foresaw all this the situation, and this is something that the russians will never be able to shut up, because you remember that president reagan read lines from the caucasus when he met with ukrainians, with american ukrainians in the white house, and exactly ... these lines, from a moldovan everything is silent about the finn in all languages, because prosperity, now there is neither a moldovan nor a finn, but russia destabilizes moldova and threatens finland, it would seem how much time has passed since the caucasus, and tries to destabilize the caucasus at the same time, that is, this poem, it remained so, and not as if it was written yesterday,

anti-imperial pathos. shevchenko, who , in principle, should look like a classic of past history, like dickens, like byron, like anyone else, remains an absolutely relevant poetry, the lines of ukrainian poets turn out to be relevant, yes, the lines of russian poetry remain relevant, because in their praise of the empire, as oleksandr sergeyevich pushkin, who wrote. books, he could quote it at a meeting of the security council of the united nations, and here is this conflict, a great civilization

conflict between empires. the poet of ugh and the anti-imperial poet of 2024, he remains exactly as principled as he is now , and by the way, the same pushkin remained at the same time a singer of freedom for russians, we are talking about russian oppositionists, they can be singers of freedom and at the same time fierce chauvinists, that is, freedom for themselves, and not freedom for the oppressed, and this is also a very important point, i would say, makes the ukrainian culture created on a large scale and literature with the efforts of shevchenko antagonistic to any imperial culture, so in this regard , you and i really need shevchenko to win, and it depends on us and, of course, on our glorious soldiers, who can also be called the heirs of this tradition, perhaps the main ones. thank you christina. many thanks to mr. vitaly, the saturday flight club will return to our viewers next saturday. khrystyna yatski,

vitaly. and we'll see, the first warrants for the arrest of russian generals from the international criminal court, whether the war criminals will be punished, they are afraid and hiding for the fifth day. russia does not withdraw its own ships to the black sea and us aid to ukraine remains blocked. will europe find another funding strategy? good evening, anna javamelnik and the espresso team are with you to summarize the past week. aid to ukraine is being blocked by those who want the us to withdraw from world leadership. america can't do that.