the minister of foreign affairs says that any negotiations will be conducted in the current territorial realities, to put it simply, there is no question of returning to ukraine its former territories, not only crimea, but also the azov region and donbass. dmytro anatoliyovych was speaking in sochi at a forum with a map behind his back, this is a real map, that's where everything is ours. no, this map is bad, don't show it, the map is great. well, it actually is. you see what all these talks are for, in fact, they are in order to start the whole situation on a new, you know, the origin and attempt, well, to really disrupt any possibility, well, really to some reasonable negotiations, yes, that is, when someone here thinks that it is possible to conduct some negotiations, they agree on something, so here is the answer to it, here is a map, like this you can talk, you really want to... say on

such conditions as you saw, and there are no other conditions in fact, there are simply no other conditions, talks with the kremlin, this must be understood very clearly, and well, the russians speak directly about it , who has not yet understood this, well, listen again once the russians, you will know, well, now actually about how they are provoking now, well , they will try to provoke nato countries with such and such steps. every time i hear that the next attack on the crimea, on the black sea fleet, this is all guidance is carried out, we know by whom, this means that there should not be any nato reconnaissance equipment in the sky over the black sea, and i don't care in which zone they fly, let's knock them all down, how will they react, what can they do, it's time to knock them all down, it's time to knock them down, well, what can they do, in fact, they can finally give it to ukraine. those

weapons that allow normal destruction of targets on the territory of russia, i think, then this will greatly change the whole situation in general and will greatly change the way the war is going. but here is another separate story, well, actually, what kind of future is painted for the russians, well, as someone thinks that it is possible to end the war in ukraine at the expense of ukraine, it ends somehow. no one is going to go west, nor is it. and again, moreover, russian television talks about it non-stop, constantly. i don't believe in the coincidence of the publication in the military opinion magazine of this thing. because there are always some serious global things, they are announced in advance. for example, the war with ukraine has been discussed for exactly one year.

therefore, what is being said today, that nato is preparing , there can be no doubt at all, i understand it, but another question, let’s put it conditionally, tomorrow we are done with ukraine, who will let us live in peace, they have come closer to us, we why did they start this to remove the buffer zone, what did we tell them, let's go there for the oder, for elba that is to say, let's put aside the odor, the elba , the fantasies, in these, they never actually left the russians with all these fantasies, this must also be understood, it is not something that arose literally today, just now the russians, you know, are in a state of a little euphoria, for some reason they think that they are winning, and now the west will sit down to negotiate with them, and maybe trumpushka will come and they will come to an agreement with them, but in reality these... agreements cannot happen,

because putin's regime cannot exist without war , if he will not fight in ukraine, that means he will fight in another place, and he will fight exactly until he is capitally punched in the face, all the talk that the war will not end if ukraine reaches the borders of 1991, will they stop shooting? yes, friends , stop shooting, because this will be the most ... vivid demonstration that putin's regime has failed, that everything he did was in vain, and after that the war will really stop, no matter what anyone tells you, because any talk about what will happen, that's it they will still fire across the border, well, if they fire from the belgorod region, they will also fly to the belgorod region, how long will this story last, do you think, how long will it be able to sit... putin, just firing from the border

91 ukrainian territory. absolutely not. this is absolutely not the case. therefore, in fact, the only and truly... achievable goal that will really end the war is to return to the borders of 1991, well, there it will be seen how this process will proceed in russia, it is clear that it can go in any direction direction, the russians can shut down and sit like in a camp, the regime may or may not collapse, but the fact that the war will end there is absolutely certain, and if not, if there will be again... talk about what not, let's go there, maybe on some of the current line, maybe we can agree, maybe we will freeze there, then listen to putin, he already has excellent ideas about belgium, by the way, belgium, you probably know about it,

has largely appeared on the world map as an independent state, in that including largely thanks to russia and the position of russia, lenin invented and... belgium probably also, well, like finland, in fact, too, and maybe a wealth of countries can hear that they were invented, if not by lenin, it is not known who else is there, so the only real way is the borders of the 91st year, there are no other ways, these are all fantasies, which are simply, well, these are really fantasies, and there is nothing to waste time on, see you soon. there are discounts on lactacyt 25% in the pharmacies psarynyk bam and oskad, there are discounts on mebicar ic tablets

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does mr. norman dream of, can we imagine it? all this in an informational marathon with mykola veresny, saturday 17:10, sunday 18:15 at espresso. welcome to the spresso channel. today, in our war and weapons program, we will once again talk about what new technologies on the battlefield the ukrainian army is already using or will use in the near future. and this time in more detail about ground robotic platforms. a number of our defense and industrial companies even united under the slogan "fight". you need robots, but not people, the ministry of strategic industries recently stated that there is an extremely urgent need for platforms that can be converted for medical evacuation, and our domestic developers demonstrated

their robotic platforms for evacuating the wounded from the field to military medics at the training ground battle but what is the distance between the demonstrators of such robotic systems and real actions on the... battlefield, which should and can accelerate the appearance of perfect and already serial samples, and whether do our developers really imagine the conditions in which these platforms will be implemented? your missions, if there are explosions, bursts from shells, enemy fpv drones are hunting from above, a minefield is under your feet or tracks. so, about all this, about new technologies of war, about possibilities and limitations, we will talk with the developers and those who will use this military hi-tech. my name is serhii sgurets, i am the director of the information and consulting company defense express, which is currently working together with the spresso channel. cover the most relevant events the life of our army

and the defense-industrial complex, and now the first guest joins us, oleksandr yabchanka joins us, this is the senior lieutenant of the honor company of the vovka devinci battalion, mr. oleksandr, i welcome you to the espresso channel, i'm glad to hear, but i can't see it live , so glory to ukraine, i hear you, glory to the heroes. mr. alexander, you are an ardent supporter of using new ones. technologies on the battlefield , we talked about the need for this direction about a year ago, and during that time many different and interesting events took place. therefore, i would like to hear from you how you would evaluate this year, how quickly these new technologies are being implemented in the life of the ukrainian army, just on the example of your unit, and whether you have such a positive experience that can be scaled to other units, to other brigade? well, come on, you've asked a few questions. so, let's start with the first question,

what is the main supporter and what, let's say, in medical terms, what are the dynamics of the process. the dynamics of the process are undoubtedly positive, if a year ago, in principle, it was more our image of what is. obvious, ah, to fight better with robots than with people, this is an obvious thesis, no one particularly argued with it, we only argued about how to do it, then, in a year's time, we already have many options for solving this problem, how to go from human warfare to robot warfare, since there are... well, a huge number of difficult prerequisites, let's call them problems, that must be solved in order for

this to happen. ah, now i will actually describe what we are talking about, what the robot should do instead of a person, these are functions, these functions are clear to every army officer, and in principle quite simple to understand for people from non-military subjects, the first function is logistics, everything that happens. in the forefront, everything that shoots, everything that is there, people live there , people eat food, people fight, that is, shoot, there you need food, water, a bull, this is all in the vast majority of cases people carry with their hands, the function of logistics must be close, must be closed by ground robotic complexes, and we see... well, many, many prototypes that can theoretically do this

, and in some places they are already at the front are doing the second function is evacuation, you said about it, you are a reminder of our conversation, it is also already happening, of course, not massively, but there are cases when it is done directly by combat units. and there are many proposals for these combat units , as to how it can be done, the third function is demining, the fourth is demining, this also happens at the front, and there are many proposals, many, not many, there are proposals from manufacturers, let's say so , then the fire damage function, well, you see a lot of complex prototypes on the internet robotic ones, which can not only cover logistics, evacuation, but they can also inflict fire damage

on the enemy. what is nice is that a year ago i was familiar with only one company engaged in this, today there are already , let's say, several such companies, in other words, we also have positive dynamics regarding the products themselves, believe me, in a year they have progressed and positively to ... in relation to the number of those who produce them. in other words, there is already internal competition, and, you know, it is very ukrainian, on the one hand, internal competition, on the other hand, all people make friends, that's when i fall. in an environment where manufacturers meet, despite the fact that they are, well, like competitors, they communicate well on the subject of technologies, that is, it is not this nonsense that we came up with, we will not tell anyone, on the contrary, and now actually, summing up what has been said , the dynamics of the process are positive, but in order for us to really

move from a war with people to a war with robots, we still need to take many, many, very difficult steps, both technical and administrative, and administrative and legal as well, so first by everything should be thanked to everyone who is involved in this process, the manufacturer, the developers, the manufacturers, the military, in the weather you very correctly noted, and what is the distance from the manufacturer to the soldier, these are such initiatives. so like bry one, they just reduce that distance to a direct handshake, because i, as a representative of the combat unit and others who have been implementing this for over a year, i communicate directly with the manufacturers, and our communication is on topic, that is, i say, look, but how can

this problem be solved? they provide options solution, we test it, and then, if this or that variant of the solution ee... is effective, they apply it, it is very good that there are still manufacturers in the history of weapons, because the distance between the inventor and the manufacturer should also be as short as possible, and so this trinity , the one who fights, the one who invents and the one who releases, it should be maximal, well, these people should simply work together, which actually happens on the platform, and of course it is very good that... that there are carriers authorities who are ready to help these three stakeholders to do their work more effectively, ah, so the general impression is positive, of course, we still have to work and work, and i just emphasize right away, let's not make

excessive expectations from this, no, we will not start with... works in in the 25th year, the whole army, well , the truth is, let's not invent for ourselves, well , unrealistic dreams. sorry, this is not the story that you took a wise book, read and do as it is written in this wise book , we are now writing this book, and writing such books as the doctrine of changing the military, well , how to change the military, excuse the doctrines , this sorry, well no... not very fast, so we have to do our best, or we understood that doctrine as quickly as possible and implemented it as quickly as possible, and for that all those participants in the process that i mentioned, in addition to thanks, we also have to to wish to move even faster. mr. oleksandr, you were present literally that week, if

i'm not mistaken, where minstratekhprom and our developers were showing these platforms that can be used. for evacuating the wounded, what did you see there, are there any samples that can already be taken and handed over tomorrow divisions, or do the developers still need to finalize something essential or non-essential? well, first of all, there are samples that could even be seen in enemy publics, that is, there are some platforms, the enemy has already noticed them and... and well, obviously, if the enemy has noticed them, then they are already in use, we just have to realize that we are doomed to run half-corps ahead technically in front of the enemy if we want to win this war, and we obviously want to, uh, there are ee smart developers, there are brave units that

are ready to implement these developments , that is, there is something to work with, we just need to scale this experience as much as possible, in other words, so that there are more units like ours, we encourage, we invite, combat units, let us have representatives, we will teach you in this that we know ourselves, we constantly communicate with those combat units that use, exchange experience, you know, what will be more effective? networking, the sooner we make this technological revolution military. mr. oleksandr, there are purely formalized requirements to such robotic platforms from the general staff? because sometimes it seems that each team at its own discretion, on its own vision, creates a sample, and then offers it to the military, you said that there is

a pi, there is a certain dialogue in the relationship, but still , is there any formal basis for so that our developers know in which direction to move and what certain units expect from them? you see, you have asked a very good question, but in my opinion, this is... the basis, this basis, it should be written directly to those who, will use this technique based on the results of the tests, on the training ground and already based on the results of the tests on the contact line, uh, what the general staff did very well, uh, he, uh, these are the grassroots initiatives that... . appeared more than a year ago, he first of all, well, prescribed them, we have a separate atheist, these are unmanned systems, and it is

wonderful, in other words, you know, it is a very cossack story, when you, as a free person, you can come up with, being in the army, it is a very regulated structure, a very hierarchical structure, but when you are in the ukrainian army you show some initiative, at least no one bothers you. summing up the answer to this question, it should not come from the general staff from top to bottom, do it like this, it is the general staff that hears how they work in the fields, and is just ready to help in this, so i am very hopeful and optimistic about all this history around ground robotic complexes, around unmanned aerial vehicles. because we have a good interaction between a soldier and a person with big epaulettes, that is, we have a stru, well , of course there are complications of a bureaucratic nature, i don't think that you are interested in hearing about them,

but the most important thing is that this distance from the direct operator of the ground-based ground -based robotic complex to the person in the general staff who makes decisions, she is first of all this contact, he is there through all kinds of initiatives, very ukrainian history, and of course, we would ideally like it to be, so that everything happened faster, but let's be realistic , a year ago we were only talking about the fact that it would be good to somehow try to fight with the latest technologies, land ones, today we already have them well, quite a lot of prototypes, and some of them already have direct experience of operators, and some prototypes have already been modernized. according to the results of their work on the front line, therefore the dynamics are positive, let's speed up if possible, but the most important thing is to fight

for god's sake not to stop. mr. oleksandr, i asked the guest editors very much for you to participate in this program, because , relatively speaking, your unit acts as a certain, well, generator of ideas and tries to push manufacturers, to create certain samples and for these samples to get to exploitation to yours. unit , this was the case with this module , the saber module, which is used by your unit, now i hope that certain robotic platforms will come to you, and what will be the formal side, you use the module, you accumulate experience, then you write certain recommendations, these recommendations are going to the developer, and maybe now they will go to the command of the new military baseless systems, so that this experience can be scaled there, this formal side of the matter has already... been fixed, is it effective, or does it work, are there any results? well, you just gave an answer to this question, if a year ago it was a saber, you know, some kind of super ee, well

, it’s a strange story, but it’s just not uncommon that people wrote to me in the comments that listen, well, that ’s a good idea, but it won’t work, now it's already, well, now it's already a reality on the front, it's wonderful. uses these ground robotic assault complexes, well done, more such units that are included in this process, er, so er, well , we can track the dynamics, which of course is better, ah, it's just that the more units there are that work directly with the manufacturer, as you asked how it... works, i'll tell you how it works, it works so that we are with the manufacturer of the saber turret and the ries platform just shook hands and said, guys, you

have something that we can... fight, give us, be a weasel, and we'll just announce that we need it, we're ready, with this, well, it's a certain risk, because when you take some new technology to war, you're still taking a risk, because it might not work, and it will a risk for you personally, and accordingly we are taking a certain risk, but please be a weasel and go to meet us, that is, give us something to risk, and they are very clear ... i will tell you that some of the sabers that we received are us received from the manufacturers , summarizing what has been said, the manufacturers in the vast majority are interested in giving these products to us directly for testing, even if they desperately need money, well, because it is, you understand, it is, well, not so much about earnings, but how about dynamics of production, relatively speaking,

if you found money for a prototype, you later we need to find money for at least a few more prototypes, and as you understand, it is not just about finding money for this, but we, as the commander of the unit, i also perceive it as a personal task, i need to find a donor for the manufacturer, if i can do it , great, the manufacturer perceives this task in the same way, he needs to find a donor to give me his you. and when we work so synchronously, it succeeds, of course, it does not always succeed, of course, it succeeds not on the scale that we would like, well, but listen, dream about the impossible, and at least a part of it will succeed also, mr. oleksandr, thank you very much for the inclusion, for your explanation, we will dream of the impossible and strive for practical solutions on the battlefield, i would like to remind you that my colleague was oleksandr yabchanka, the senior lieutenant of

the honor company of the vovkivi battalion. and this unit is precisely trained to implement technological solutions to conduct combat operations with the enemy, relying on the capabilities provided by robotic platforms, saber-type modules, and other models that allow to destroy the enemy, at the same time, when the fighter remains at maximum safety, this should be provided by technology, further on we will talk about how to create samples of such unmanned systems that are needed on the battlefield, but here we will rather talk not about the technical parameters of this or that product, but about what slows down, or what needs to be changed in order for this process of creation to be much faster, more dynamic and meet the needs that the military itself is currently forming. about all this after the information and advertising block. there are discounts

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