and they are doing what the whole world demands, in order to restrain aggressive plans and threats of nuclear weapons, so that they do not materialize into an ungodly life, how much do you think china can influence russia here? i think that he has a very good influence and can influence russia, and not only on this issue, but also on other issues, which, for example, were discussed: during the briefing for doctors in the office of the president, the ministry of foreign affairs, this and demilitarization, de-occupation of the zaporizhzhya nuclear plant and from the return, which means our children from abroad, and the grain corridor and many other things, of course, they stick to their position, and they invest in their position this main meaning.

"we need to stop fighting, and none of them is saying , let's stop now, as russia is proposing, and in fact , these territories that are occupied should remain part of russia, nothing like that, lihui was even asked, and he clearly confirmed that no, no, no, we are not advocating for this, we are advocating for the preservation of the territorial integrity of ukraine and for ending the conflict, as they call it, and nothing changes there, but tell me, what do you think, and what is territorial integrity in general, for example, president erdogan clearly says that he recognizes the territorial integrity of ukraine and considers crimea to be ukrainian, and it is absolutely obvious what he means, and china, when it talks about the territorial integrity of ukraine, it never details what it means, after all , crimea and donbas are ukrainian territory from the point of view of china or not, we have never

heard that ... we didn't hear, we heard china he said a long, long time ago that he does not recognize crimea as russian, he does not recognize ocy, that means the donetsk and luhansk republics, although there were, of course, some points that can be counted as support for this position regarding territorial integrity, that is without crimea and i mean , when the singer sang there in mariupol. in a heated theater and so on, it happens like that, but the official position was clearly expressed: crimea - ukraine, donetsk, luhansk regions - ukraine, and china does not adhere to any other positions, at least officially. thank you, mr. igor. ihor lytvyn, ambassador of ukraine to the people's republic of china in 1999-2001, co-chairman of the ukrainian-chinese business council.

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sponsor of the national team represents. united by football, stronger together. we continue the saturday political club of khrystyna yatskiv. vitaly portnikov. for an hour we will talk with mr. vitaly about things that remain between the deadlines, which are still important to emphasize. we just had a conversation about lihoe, his visit to kyiv, before that visit to the russian federation and in the european capital, there is an understanding of what china wants to understand. it is possible to check the clocks, but the president of turkey recep tayyip erdogan actually demonstrated something similar, he said that i would like russia and ukraine, and us, as a negotiating platform, and all this is understandable. president zelenskyi, his meeting with erdogan. we understand that this was not only

a bilateral meeting of the presidents, but also an agreement on defense ties. that is, after all, turkey is a little different in this position from china. she looks for opportunities. certainly help ukraine, well, to a certain extent, where it does not contradict, let's say, its interest in relations with the russian federation, the russian federation calmly looks at a certain supply of weapons from turkey, because at the same time, turkey opens up for russia those opportunities that for it is not opened by western countries, and frankly, i do not know what would be better, maybe it would be better if turkey did not supply us with any weapons, but would close the possibility for russian oligarchs to have their money in turkish banks for putin's relatives and friends have... they were in turkey, that is, in fact , turkey helps russia to get rid of the sanctions effect, and together with that we get some weapons there, well, this is such compensation, a lot, it is possible, a lot, in fact, even those the very kirpi cars that our marines drive are really important , but this is always a question, where is this balance,

imagine that any western country would give us a lot of weapons and not and did not introduce sanctions against russia, we believed that this is treason, and from turkey it is somehow a price. what are you going to do with turkish, but in fact turkey is a member of nato , it is part of the western world, it should have behaved completely differently, but it does not , and this is also a very important moment in this whole story, regarding the negotiations between the presidents of turkey and ukraine, you saw that they completely diverged from the point in terms of how everything should happen, president erdoğan believes that ukraine and russia should talk to each other in istanbul or ankara, while president zelensky follows this scenario. peace formula, states turn to russia, then russia is invited or not invited to the summit of peace, the next one, and there they will talk with someone who is ready to talk constructively, as far as i understand, this is not

president putin, and this is a world that does not exist, it may exist in the imagination of volodymyr zelenskyi, that such a world should be , it is a world of justice, but we do not live in a world of justice. we are in a world of war , injustice, aggression, and it is a much less comfortable world than in the heads of politicians, ugh, and this must also be realized, in relation to china and in relation to turkey, it seems to me that they simply after the end of the ukrainian offensive, and the russian began, they are measuring the water temperature, that is, is ukraine ready to realize that it will not return its territories, that it is necessary to... agree to the russian conditions, that is, if you want to save something, then you can use our services to fulfill the russian conditions, because in the future it will only be worse for you, this is actually what they say in ankara and what they say in beijing, you don't need to invent some such

complicated motives, what about us, i don't think we can hereby agree with one for a simple reason: i do not at all believe in... that russia will go to any negotiations, i believe that this is exactly chinese and turkish desire, because it would be good for china if ukraine remained in the role of such a large belarus. became such a lukashenko country, because another european country is in the orbit of china, and this is guaranteed by the russian role, it has always been and will be here, it is simply necessary from the point of view of creating this bipolar world, because we already understand how china sees this bipolar world, russia, ukraine, belarus and relatively speaking, hungary and slovakia are there as friendly countries, you saw that viktor orban too. communicates with chinese leaders, and i do not understand how this

fits into the fact that he is there at the same time communicating with donald trump, how he explains this to donald trump, well, i don’t know, well, he is such a person who can explain a lot to someone, let’s not to stop this, this is such a moment, another moment, which is also very important, that russia does not need all this, russia does not need any lukashenka ukraine, and i will tell you honestly, and lukashenka belarus, the russians are just waiting until ... after all, they will finish off lukashenka sooner or later, he can just physically go somewhere, this is such a completely specific imperial scheme, roman, as in rome there were some kings in the provinces, and these provinces were states, while these kings were alive, because rome considered them important allies, they actually did him a lot of favors, ugh, and rome agreed that there could be egypt or judea, the kingdom. and when these kings died, rome simply turned these

states into its provinces, ordinary ones, because he did not need this statehood , it was simply a gift, so to speak, from the emperor, to another ally there, and with belarus, i think that when lukashenko’s term in office, or his physical life, ends, russia can simply annex belarus will annex it to itself and this will basically end the history of belarusian statehood, well, there may be a nomination. there is some part of the union state where there will be nothing belarusian, not even the way it was during the soviet union, and the same should wait for ukraine, when putin was going to imprison yanukovych and medvedchuk here, i think then transfer power to yanukovych, i even believe that he could agree to the existence of such a reduced loyal ukraine, but exactly until that moment. as long as medvedchuk needs it, this is such a gift, you will have a ukrainian kingdom, age, and when there is no putin and

there is no medvedchuk, then this part of the union state will simply hold some kind of session there , i’m sorry, not every thai, all-russian, some kind of assembly of people’s representatives, you i will then announce the unification of all these three states into one, very simple program, and therefore the russians will not stop at the chinese proposal, they will fight as much from their point of view as is necessary. to destroy ukraine's very possibility for independent state development, uh, and ukraine between the west and russia is no longer needed, because it was a mistake of the bolsheviks to leave ukraine like this, and they already understood that when you leave it like that, then it starts kicking itself, and putin is absolutely clear that he wants to right the wrongs the bolsheviks, who in general created all these union republics, and it is necessary to understand that putin has... believed that since the 90s of the 20th century,

there is nothing new here, i think i told you that i heard these thoughts for the first time about that ukraine should leave the soviet union without the gifts of the bolsheviks in 1991, he is antolia sobchak, i was putin's political teacher, who came here to kyiv at the head of a delegation of the union parliament to find out our intentions, and there it all sounded from him, all these ideas our compatriots with you, what is this happened in 2000. in the 22nd year, in the 14th year , in the fourth year, but if we, so to speak, breathed evenly and did not insult putin, then none of this would have happened, this is an amazing childish illusion, because it was never considered , that this state in this territory should last for a long time, it was just choosing the best moment to destroy it, as putin said, now we know from this book, the last politician to the director of the cia. robert burns, now is the best time to destroy

the ukrainian state, because in his opinion volodymyr zelenskyi's government has been shaken state institutions, so they will not be able to vouch, which was a wrong assessment, by the way, if we look at the first months of the war, because there will be no, there is no obvious european leadership and no one will be able to vouch, so putin was absolutely clear. the idea that it will be easy for him in this particular situation, he is like a predator, if he sees that the victim is weaker, one should simply end this story, if not... happened in 22, putin would say that it is possible there we are not as blind as he thought, it happened on the 23rd, 24th, 25th, it does not matter, it is still an inevitable process, just as the process with crimea was inevitable, because we are talking about 2000, the 14th year as something extraordinary, but russia was preparing a special operation

to annex crimea in 190. petersburg, and before that, the verkhovna rada of russia federation adopted a resolution on the russian status of sevastopol. ukrainians ignored all this, because for the vast majority of them. the capital was in moscow even then, not even then, but then it was still in moscow, and they simply believed that it was all there, well, what, what does it matter where this crimea is, well, because we were in one state, in the cis, for only two years, well, and it didn't seem like a threat, and when the war started, when we already

felt like a real state, then of course, it was perceived much more acutely by many people, especially those who grew up in the absence of... nativeness, that this is ukraine and they have never been in the soviet union, and those who were, perceive it differently, they are perceived with disappointment, not with surprise, that how come, they were all together, and then suddenly they kill us, so these are all completely understandable processes, and from this one point of view, i say again, china simply does not understand this, that for russia this is not a story about statehood, but maybe i understand, pretend, you remember this ambassador of china. in france, he said that the former soviet republics have limited sovereignty, well , he said it out loud, well, that is, one should not think that a person in such a position is simply low-spirited and simply says everything that they want to say, it was such a cautious signal west, that you will understand how we look at it, that we also believe that it does not belong to

the state, but we cannot say it at a high level levels, so let the ambassador say, we will refute him, but the signal was... obvious, the west heard it, this is also an important point, mr. vitaly, you said that when russia wants to finally seize the former soviet republics, it can go for it , to behead, yes, or remove the nominal head of belarus - this is lukashenko, but this week there was an attempt on the president of ukraine and the prime minister of greece in odesa, is it something similar, or are the motives completely different there? well, look. russia really expected and will continue to expect that after may 2024 it is possible to resort to certain destabilizing actions, saying that the president of ukraine has exhausted his powers, is an illegitimate president, there is no legitimate power, and she will also work with this history, that is why i believe that, by and large,

we would need a clear explanation of the constitutional court, regarding this situation and so on, so that there were no even. opportunities to question the legitimacy of power after 2,000 may 2024, but on the other hand we clearly understand, and it surprises me, that many of our compatriots does not realize that the simplest method of solving this problem is the physical elimination of the president, all the more convenient in a situation where he seems to have constitutionally exhausted powers, that is, that... this propaganda company with real action, because imagine that the president ukraine perishes during such an attempt, well, this means that the acting president becomes the head of the verkhovna rada, but again, look at the verkhovna rada, there are already not enough votes in the majority, so they are there this week under the pretext that

they can't, they have to go to the front and look at the dugouts. are not working, we understand that this is just a fiction, they simply do not have enough people, and this is also primarily, by and large, already a demonstration of the crisis, now imagine a simple situation: the president dies, and the verkhovna rada cannot elect acting duties of the president, because she does not have the necessary quorum for this, ugh, how do all institutions look, well, no way, collapse, this is collapse. of course, you can form a higher council of national salvation, it will take over the powers, but it will not be a constitutional body, it will be some extraordinary body, it is not clear for what period. the allies will start telling us that we have to hold elections, and we will not understand how to hold them, the russians will try to identify some offensive, some military actions, some missile strikes, so as not to give

us the opportunity to cancel martial law even for a month, that is direct road where to destabilize and i think they won't do that first of all this missile strike is not just an attack huh so what i don't think it is there was a specific attempt that they believed that they would definitely get into it... this is a signal, uh, one of the first signals that they can do it, that is, it is actually not an attempt, but rather blackmail, so that before even we did not think that they could hit a representative in this way during his stay in odesa or in kyiv or in the dnipro, anywhere. of another state, not a representative, leader, kyriakos mitsetakes, prime minister of greece, that is, there were shellings,

but they were shellings that allowed this or that official to move to bomb shelter, and in this bomb shelter spent hours, western and not only western leaders, and for a long time, as you remember, putin... shot kyiv when the delegation of the african union was here, and in the bomb shelter were the president of the south african republic cyril ramophos and his colleagues, but you understand the difference, it is one thing when there is an air alert, and you know for sure that the safety of the persons with whom you can speak there yourself will be ensured, or that the ukrainian side is responsible for their safety, what are you during rocket shelling, say? were not taken to a safe place, remember, president shtanmay was even in a bomb shelter in one of the ukrainian forces, yes, but it was an air alert, here the same shelling was

such that it did not give an opportunity, ballistics, yes, it was ballistics, in principle , the prime minister of greece had no way to avoid death if this missile had hit 500 m closer, what is 500 m for a ballistic missile, well, i would think so. so, this is a signal that we can act like this, it does not mean that it will happen tomorrow or the day after tomorrow another attempt of such an attempt, there may be more signals, but when i analyze it, i am always surprised by our people who discuss the ratings and chances of the candidates, as if, firstly, as if it will really happen in our country in the near future, in the coming years, i... elections, and as if they live in a peaceful country, and as if they understand that there is a high probability that certain candidates and certain voters for the new

presidential and parliamentary elections in ukraine, i apologize, will not survive, this is war, war is characterized by physical destruction likely participants in the elections, and those who are on the ballots, and those who will vote, and this must also be understood, as the main factor in elections is called death. everything else is not the main factor in the election, people who live in war have to take the word death as a real political category, as a category that will determine their future in the years to come, because if people in war forget about death, they cannot even and decide how to survive them, life becomes a ghost when you don't remember death, so i always urge remember death in war every day, don't relax even for a minute , forget... you will die, and this is a very important moment, i think it should be like a demonstration of sobriety, you know, you have to live sober

in such a country , because if you don't live sober, then you get information that it turns out that putin was preparing to use nuclear weapons, as we talked about it, then you panic, and what did you think, it's the same as with a major attack , which you thought putin could not use against ukraine nuclear weapons, maybe? maybe that's why we have to hold him by the hands, by the legs , that's why we have to create this strategic uncertainty, so that this decision, which i'm sure has long been decided as a possibility, is not carried out, is putin ready to use nuclear weapons, in itself yes, the answer positive, so ready, is it possible to keep him from this, yes it is possible, there are chances, they are not absolute, and this is also a huge task of world politics, diplomacy, contacts with china and india. so that a nuclear strike is not carried out on the territory of a non-nuclear state, because after that, everything the life of the world will change, because if the world every country wants to go nuclear, of course,

we don't know how the world will even answer for that. most likely, he may not answer at all, and this will also be a very serious blow to world security, in a word, let's move on, and what worries our viewers and listeners is the new appointment of valery zaluzhny, ambassador to great britain, and comment on it, please please, i already started commenting on this when i spoke about the presidential election, once. the appointment of a person who was the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, that is, one of the highest representatives of the military-political leadership of the state for diplomatic work is called always the same, trying to keep the most popular likely political competitor at a long distance, uh, and this

is an obvious thing for me, because i again on... i have soviet experience , i remember how former members of the politburo of the central committee of the cpsu were appointed extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassadors after their removal from their posts. i even remember the story about the appointment of ambassador to great britain without agreman. ugh, when is the last one the minister of foreign affairs of the soviet union, boris pankin, had to resign a few weeks before the announcement of the disappearance of the soviet union, because he is known. the soviet politician, the future president of georgia, eduard chevarnadze, really wanted to return to smolensk square, simply to the position of minister of foreign affairs, minister of external relations, and mikhail gorbachev summoned mr. pankin to the kremlin, he was very indebted to mr. pankin, because mr. pankin did not supported the gkchp, and he told him that here is eduard amrosievich, and here you are boris dmytrovych should leave his post, and boris

dmytrovych. asked him, what should he do then, and then mikhail serhiyevich gorbachev picked up the phone, called the prime minister of great britain john major and said: "mr. major, could you accept boris pankin, he is such a good person, our minister of foreign affairs as ambassador to great britain". well, mr. major, what did he have to say, when the president of the soviet union calls him directly. he said: "well, of course we will fight for the honor of the minister of foreign affairs affairs to accept" in london, and the kremlin was informed about this even before agreman was confirmed by the british government, because it was just a telephone conversation between the president of the ussr and the prime minister of great britain, now practically the same thing happened for reasons i do not understand, the announcement of valery zaluzhny's appointment as ambassador to great britain took place even before great britain agreed to it,

and before... since the moment when the corresponding decree of the president of ukraine was signed. well, this to a certain extent, some sort of collapse of management , you know, how the decree on the shevchenko prizes was signed today, which was not signed last time for three months in a row, why it was like this last year, and this year like that, one can only guess, well, when the imbalance of state administration , which began not in 2022, but in 2019 is possible... various such things, it is very difficult to understand why this is so, why at all, why it is all unbalanced, everything is unbalanced, well, because it is not of great importance, the balance there is no people of great importance, who should be balancers, but do not know how to do it, so all this talk that valery zaluzhny is there in the position of ambassador to great britain, will be engaged in the purchase of weapons or will be a great

authority in... the country, which is such an important ally of ours, of course , it all sounds very beautiful, and earlier people who spoke like that, and they still speak like that, were the vanguards who wrote to the soviet communist press, it was a special talent, i would generally remove these people from facebook somehow would pull them by the ears, by the nose and send them to the year 1982, where there was a front page in the newspaper pravda, the front page in the newspaper was known, and they always always explained in this way that, let's say, if there is no... allegedly, this huge harvest was harvested by agricultural workers of the smolensk region, this is wonderful, this too can only cause envy, the ability to call black white, white black, not seeing something in the eye, does not matter, after all, this means that the idea is simple, that if valery zaluzhnyk and according to sociology and...