[000:00:00;00] greetings, this is svoboda live, my name is vlasta lazur. according to the assessment of the us intelligence service, without additional american assistance, ukraine may lose part of the territories returned during the counteroffensive in 2022. how much... time does ukraine have to prevent such a scenario? we are talking about this today, as well as the mass attack of drones on russian regions and the raids of russian volunteer battalions, which happened practically on the same day and at the same time today. what does it mean? let's start. mass raid of drones in half - literally 10 in half a day regions of russia were attacked by drones.

most of the reports about the attack were received. from belgorod, a drone crashed into the city's administration building, according to the governor of the region, vyacheslav gladkov . according to gladkov, the ukrainian drone, as a result of the explosion, knocked out windows in the building and cut the facade. from those photos and videos published by the local authorities and users in russian publics, it is clear that the letters from the inscription "administration of the city of belgorod" have also fallen from the building. the ukrainian side did not specifically comment on this attack she also did not comment on the attack where the drone falls on the building. shopping center in belgorod. in total, last night and today, at least 10 russian regions were attacked by ukrainian drones, the russian authorities say. in the nizhygorod region , a fire started at the lukoil refinery as a result of a drone strike. reuters writes that

the company partially stopped work in oryol. after the fall of the drone , a fire also started at the oil tank. the representative of ukrainian intelligence andriy yusov said today on the morning air of radio liberty that all objects that russia uses for military purposes, may be subject to similar attacks. as is known about the tybovna gurkhas and other incidents at a number of military facilities that are used by the enemy for military purposes, in particular to support the occupying rashist group in ukraine, and everything that... is used for military purposes somehow happens to them these are the incidents. traditionally, we cannot comment on who and what caused the damage, but this work will be continued. well, in parallel with the attack of drones synchronously, it is even possible to say, representatives of the legion of freedom of russia, the russian volunteer corps of the red army and the siberian battalion, who are fighting on the side of ukraine, but as they themselves claim, consist exclusively of russian citizens,

so they announced about... conducting a joint military operation in the territories of kursk and belgorod regions the representatives of the units claim to have crossed the border and established themselves on the territory of russia, taking control of a couple of settlements . the russian authorities deny this and report that the assault was repulsed. details further. nights local time in the kursk region in russia , a missile threat was declared, which lasted until the very evening. the local authorities reported on the work of the air defense forces, already under. in the morning, a missile threat was also announced in the belgorod region. at the same time , the united forces of the russian resistance, as they call themselves, announced that they entered the territory of russia. we are talking about the legion of freedom of russia, the russian volunteer corps and the siberian battalion. guys, help with the pen. rdc fighters publish footage of a shooting battle. and representatives of the legion

of freedom of russia. published an appeal, in who was informed that they are going again with a raid on the territory of russia. wait for us, we are clean. rfe /rl cannot quickly verify whether these video materials were shot on the territory of russia, and the russian media call these footage fake and ipso. like, they were filmed a week ago. but this video of the legion of freedom of russia is already identified on the network. as the territory of the village of tyotkina, kurs region. the governor of the kurdistan region, roman storovoit , recorded a video message in which he reported on the shelling of the kursk region. according to him, there are casualties as a result of shelling. the governor denied the border breach. there was an attempt. there was an attempt to break through the sabotage and intelligence group. there was a shooting battle, but there was no breakthrough. there was no breakthrough. in a morning statement, the russian ministry of defense confirmed that the armed forces

, together with the border guard, repelled all attacks, and also prevented a violation of the border. in the afternoon, they published footage of downed vehicles, as they call the ukrainian drg, in the area of ​​nasela. belohorod region. the federal security service of russia stated that such attacks on belogorodsk and kursk regions have been taking place since march 10. and during these days - i quote: more than 100 manpower, six tanks, saot caesar, 20 armored fighting vehicles and a stronghold have already been destroyed. oleksiy baranovskyi, communications advisor of the russian freedom legion, called these events a liberation march and noted that they were dedicated to the elections. in russia. we, the citizens of russia, we also have the right, in fact, to speak about this election, and that's why we started talking about our position with guns in hand, about what we think about this regime, about his election. andrii yusov, a representative of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense

, said in a comment to radio liberty that gur does not manage pro-ukrainian, russian volunteer associations when they work on the territory of russia. what is happening on the territory of ukraine, yes, of course, everything is coordinated, and they are acting. as part of the security and defense forces, helping to liberate ukraine from russian tyrants, but they are citizens of the russian federation, and at home they have the right to do what they think is necessary, in this situation to defend their civil rights political rights and free their country from the russian putin dictatorship. olga armyanyshina, radio liberty. well, as we can see, the ministry of defense and although they confirm the attempt, the ministry of defense of russia confirms the attempt to break through the kor'. in the belgorod kursk region, but they say that it was only an attempt and the breakthrough itself did not take place, was not allowed and that the saboteurs, as they call them, suffered significant losses. now we will discuss all this in detail. mykhailo zharokhov, a military expert, has already joined

our broadcast. mykhailo, good evening. good evening. what happened from your point of view, how should this tour of russian volunteers be understood, what is its purpose, military, political, psychological, how do you... understand it for yourself and how do you evaluate the effectiveness of these forays? well, i don't see anything extraordinary in this sortie , they have done it several times already, and all such raids, they took place over the course of, well, i don't know exactly the last year, but as for the results, you can't talk about the military results here, there are too few people are involved in... such and such raids, and the goal is such and such campaigns, it is, first of all, such an ideological and media one, that the event needs

an image, for us we need an image that these people, citizens of the russian federation, are fighting, fighting for their independence against the putin regime, and this... not only the west, not only ukraine, but that there is also an opposition, including an armed opposition, for the average western citizen, it works very, very well, because the west always supports such national liberation movements, even starting, i do not i know, since the 60s of the 20th century. and how can we evaluate the reaction russia for this event, because, well, we read their press releases and they report there... that they destroyed 100 people of manpower, there are some tanks and other equipment, but first of all we don't see it, they don't show, and secondly, from the videos published by these russian volunteer battalions, we do not see any

footage of the battles, we see that people are shooting, they say that the shooting happened there, but we cannot assess the scale of russia's reaction , could you elaborate here on what you see? uh, what, uh, a russian, an average russian, he's about these fights won’t even know anything, because they won’t say anything about them on television, if there is official information, then in the style you already said, 100 dead, there is a caesar self-propelled artillery installation, six tanks, there and more there is a death star and more, more, a bunch of other things, this is the first thing, but... but for the residents of the border it is very, very important and very unpleasant, and the so-called word of mouth radio starts working here, everyone has relatives in other regions , everyone has acquaintances

who will receive this information from unofficial sources, and it is not known how better this information will enter russian society through official channels, or through... such unofficial ones, when it will be that source that a person trusts 100%. but still, we can from those, from that information? what is available in open sources, to confirm that the russian volunteer battalions really entered the russian territories and took a couple of settlements there under their control, and if we take the historical component, so to speak, in these there were raids before this, and they tied themselves, in that including western analysts, experts on specific points, the fact that this video was filmed in this very village about... about

the battles, in addition, there were testimonies and published by witnesses about pro-ukrainian formations, they published photos and videos of the dead russians, and in addition there were losses of equipment, and the russians put there, you remember, if you remember , there is armor, an armored personnel carrier that they destroyed there, this is it during past raids, and today's, and today's is still being invested in... this system , at least these videos that i saw, this is my aunt, this is kursskaya region, so it can be said that this is when it happens at 8:45 or 9:20, i can't say, and no one can say, we can only talk about the time when the video was posted, in a general sense yes, there is no doubt that they have entered, or have entered, are now on the territory of the russian federation, and you? you say that we should rather not think about any

military consequences here, it would rather have such psychological consequences, informational, perhaps, but if we talk about military consequences, which would be ideal for on the ukrainian side, is it correct , is it correct to say that it is possible to some extent that ukraine is counting on the fact that the russian side will expose some part of the front in ukraine and go to defend belgorod, that would be ideal, or is this not the goal at all? eh, no, no, no, now the russians have withdrawn enough troops on the border, enough, there are not only conscripts there now, there are also mobilized personnel, military, the question is that such raids will force the russians to reduce the pressure on our border , i am now in chernihiv and on in chernihiv region, we know that every day the local media report on shelling and actions. intelligence and sabotage groups of russians on the territory of chernihiv

region, and these are preventive strikes, they will be able to, well, in a certain way, reduce such and such pressure. of course, these are kursk, bilhorod, sumy, kharkiv oblast, which is far from chernihiv oblast, but i think and know that sumy, especially now, is under constant shelling, kharkiv oblast is under constant shelling. that's why there are such raids they are extremely necessary and necessary , including, well, in such a military situation, i’m not even talking about the maintenance of the village of tiotkin or anything else, they don’t have such forces and means, and here the question of logistics arises, well, the question of providing for local residents, well, a huge number different issues, but these raids they will... well, they will keep the russians in

tension, and they will be forced to take part of their forces in order to, well, not go on, well, a conditional raid on the sumy region, but to defend their territory. of course. well, look, you they said that this is not a new story and that such raids have already taken place, but specifically today the raids of these russian volunteer units took place simultaneously with a massive drone attack on russian objects, is it a coincidence, or? this, or there, or are these two parallel planned processes on purpose, or did it just happen that way? it just happened, 37 drones that were declared shot down, russian air defense, it, well, yes, it happens every night, for example, before this night, when the russians declared that 42 drones were shot down in the rostov region, that is, there is no such thing, you know what so-and-so... that night there were 20

drones and now it's 200. 37, 40, 50, 35, that's, well, in quotes, normal numbers for hits every night, so the intensity of the hits didn't increase, i i understand that the main target of ukrainian drones are oil refineries, today there was also a fire at lukoil in the nizhny novgorod region. but in the same way, we see that it flew over belgorod through the city administration, through some shopping center, and why is this, for what, is it such a mistake, and well... you need to understand that the russians on the border have a huge the number of radio control systems, and what i've talked to drone eaters who work on the border, they say that when it's hard, when you feel like you're losing

control of your drone, and you're, well, to put it mildly , the first one is better a target that you consider worthy, which is not, well, it's not a pity... the drone spends, and then you direct it, that is, not necessarily this drone, which has now hit some building there, it was going to this building, systems russian rap is very powerful, and unfortunately they have learned to fight with our, with our, to intercept the signals of our drones, therefore most of those that do not hit military targets are precisely the work of russia. ppo and rep systems, the main target is, i understand correctly, oil refineries, isn't it necessary? and now yes , the tactics have changed in the last few weeks, and the drones, the long-range strike drones, they are striking precisely at the objects

of the oil refining industry with a long-range strike, which was the leningrad region , luga, it was at... an oil pumping plant, which pumps crude oil to europe, here he is was forced to stop his work for several weeks after a ukrainian drone strike. what does this give the ukrainian side? and this is a long game, because it's one thing when an oil storage facility is affected, relatively speaking, that's it. where it is located, and another matter, when it is hit, for example, it is an oil refinery, it will be very difficult to restore its work now, because most of this equipment, it was purchased in europe even before the sanctions, and now

it is not produced in russia, and now buy it through third countries, or buy there, well, in general. it is almost impossible, this is unique equipment, and for the russians this is a huge problem, which will not shoot tomorrow, not the day after tomorrow, but in general , the same refinery that affected the nizhny novgorod region, it processes 5% of the crude oil of the russian federation, and i have one last question, we further , we will discuss the prospect of providing american assistance, and according to the intelligence services of the united states, without additional american assistance, ukraine may lose even that part of the territory that was returned after the counteroffensive, tell me, how much time does ukraine have to prevent such a scenario? well, i am not vanga, and it is very difficult to predict something, because

there are a very large number of different factors, but i think that ukraine still has two or three weeks. but there are certain markers of the presence of weapons, the presence of artillery shells, the presence of missiles for air defense systems, because, first of all, the russians are now winning due to the fact that they have an advantage precisely in artillery shells and fire, fire target. well, look, this is volodymyr zelenskyi v in one of his last... interviews for a french tv channel, he said that now the situation, he says, is much better than it was during the last three months, he says that ukraine, that there was a shortage of ammunition, an air blockade, russian long-range weapons worked and so on, but now it has become better, you, you can agree with the president's thesis,

well, you need to distinguish between political statements and the real state of affairs at the front, we did not have hundreds of thousands of outfits. we did not have additional anti-aircraft missiles, because american aid, it is still there is on pause, and therefore to say that something has become better for us, well, i would not agree with the president, although of course there may be moments that are open, in open access, they do not reach, and that is correct, the country is in war conditions , and how would you generally assess the situation at the front and possibly in which direction? it is the most critical, or may become the most difficult in the near future, steadily difficult, again, avdiivskoe, i would start talking about the pokrovskoe direction, today there is information not yet officially confirmed about the loss of the settlement of nevilske

, which gives the russians the opportunity, well, if the situation develops in their favor, to launch an offensive on the flank of our group, i think that this has been worked out by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, and certain countermeasures will be taken in the near future. thank you very much for... the expert who joined us on radio svoboda. thank you. a delay in providing military aid to ukraine will allow russia to seize more ukrainian territories. this was stated by cia director william burns during public hearings in the senate intelligence committee, according to the assessment of american intelligence services, without additional american assistance , ukraine may lose part of the territories returned during offensive in the 22nd year. if aid is not allocated in ukraine, then we will see new avdiyivka - said the head of the cia, referring to the retreat of

the ukrainian army from avdiivka after a months-long defensive operation. this aid is especially relevant against the background of the growth of projectile production in russia and moscow's purchases of ammunition from north korea and irani according to the director of the cia, william berntz, the refusal to finance military aid to ukraine will be a large-scale historical mistake. the allocation of 60 billion dollars to ukraine, which the white house is requesting from the congress, will significantly change the situation on the battlefield, american intelligence services predict, they believe that the ukrainian army will be able not only to hold on to its current positions, but also that by the beginning of next year, it may be transferred to a strategic initiative. i would like to remind you that the bill, which re-provides military aid to ukraine in the amount of 60 billion dollars, was approved by the senate in mid-february, but the document has yet to be approved by the house of representatives, where republican speaker mike johnson refuses to put the document to a vote. oleksandr kraev, director of the north america program of the foreign policy council of ukrainian

prisma, joins our broadcast. oleksandr, good evening, we haven't seen you for a long time. yes, congratulations, good evening to you, glad to be on the air again. tell me, but on the bill, which actually provides for the assistance of these 60 billion dollars for ukraine, which, which was supported by the senate in february, it is possible to put a full stop, or it is not necessary too soon. in fact, the situation is still developing , we see that the alternative bills that are being submitted, well, the same one, for example, that is being developed by johnson and his company, the one that is proposed in the senate, the so-called interim aid packages for ukraine, they are just as relevant as the main one, the one that was proposed by biden, that is, it is not that he should be written off, it is simply necessary to understand that now he is in a much more competitive environment than, say, a month ago on the initiative of johnson with it... they wanted to withdraw all humanitarian and economic aid, whether expectations came true or whether such an amendment was adopted is still unknown, because the final text, unfortunately,

has not been published yet, but what form the bill on aid to ukraine will finally take the vote in the chamber is still an unknown, it is still something that is difficult to predict, but i repeat, it is still too early to write off the 60-billion settlement package. well, you said that competitors appeared in this document, literally nbc. wrote a couple of days ago that the part of the republican party, together with the already mentioned speaker mike johnson, are working on some new own aid package for ukraine, and it assumes that kyiv will receive not aid, as aid, but a credit, a loan, and it seems to me that donald trump recently voiced a similar idea , he said: "well, if you want to help ukraine, then give them a loan, it makes sense to combine trump's statement and". and what speaker mike johnson is doing now. absolutely clearly. you know, johnson, he's not as independent a politician as he tries to draw himself. basically,

anything that johnson broadcasts to the house of representatives is a completely political creation of trump. before every important meeting, before every visit of a large international foreign delegation, johnson consults with trump without fail. it must be done before every legislative initiative and proposal. that is, in essence, johnson is a mouthpiece for trump, and he is simply clearly conveying his influence and his ideas to the house of representatives. it is not a repeater own political opinions. and the idea of ​​financing at the expense of loan funds, that is, the kind that ukraine or our other partners have to repay later, is something that trump proposed a long time ago. well, let's say, not even at the end of last year, he said that all the expenses for ukraine borne by the united states, for some reason, in his opinion, should be paid by european countries. so it's ... a continuation of that idea, and unfortunately, there are still representatives in congress who are willing to support trump in this. listen, oleksandr, and

tell me, please, why, unfortunately, or maybe it is not a bad idea for ukraine to give, well , if there are no options, they do not give help, they offer a loan, maybe it is not so bad, and if in principle ukraine receives a loan, the borrower will be interested in ukraine standing up and paying off this debt ? you know , in a fishless pond there is a crab and a fish, that is, if we have an alternative of not having any financing at all, and at the same time they are ready to give us credit, then yes, then it is one question, but we already have to understand that so far absolutely. .. on the republican majority parties are not trumpists, they are conservatives who still cannot clearly express their position for one simple reason. we saw in the primaries that in states where the majority of republicans prevail, more than 50% of republican voters support trump. accordingly, no congressman, even if he disagrees with trump, will not say so publicly. but when it comes to voting for aid to ukraine, the votes can really be gathered in order to

vote for a project that is more beneficial for ukraine. so if we compare biden's package in 60 billion full-fledged aid, similar to what it was in the 22nd year, and we compare it with trump's proposal, when russian assets, for example, can be used for this, or europe can pay for this, then of course the first option for us times better, so for now we can really say only sorry about this trump proposal and its support. and you admit that, in principle, until november 24th , there will be no... help from the united states or much help at all, well, because now they will be constantly postpone, postpone, because the usa already lives a little differently, it lives, they live by elections, the chance of this, let's say, s each on a mathematical function, it approaches zero, but never equals zero, that is, in fact, some minimal chances that the trumpists and trump personally will be able to

prolong this crisis so much only to collapse biden's rating. such a chance is indeed present, but we see that even the biggest anti-ukrainian voice in the house of representatives, mike johnson, is still working on some alternative option sponsoring ukraine and providing ukraine with weapons, money, and so on. therefore, in fact , economic necessity, namely the adoption of the federal budget, the adoption of a draft law on the border and, accordingly, the subsequent adoption of a draft law on aid to ukraine, is all part of the same financial process, and an economic necessity. is such that all stages of this financial process must be completed, and they must be completed in the near future, so no matter how trumpists resist, the logic of the american economy, the logic of work the legislative branch of the usa, it still inclines the congress to the fact that the aid to ukraine should be accepted, but again, there is a very small chance that the trumpists will manage to prolong this crisis after all, because these are the

24th states, it is absolutely there is definitely a huge pond with black swans, where on... looking for stability is a real task for us. recently, we know that the hungarian prime minister viktor orbán visited trump, he was received with honors there, and when orbán returned from there, he said that if trump wins the election, trump does not plan to support ukraine. tell me, what kind of scheme is this, or is there a multi-hodovka involving orban, who is the audience of this statement, why exactly did orban decide to announce it upon his arrival, what is the purpose? this, uh , well, first of all, orban has been visiting trump for a long time by invitation, orban has been one of the headliners of all conservative conferences, meetings, public speeches organized by trump, or the forces within the republican party that his support that is, it is not sudden, and this this is not orban's first visit. secondly, what is the point of this idea of ​​not giving money to ukraine? the fact is that orbán in this

case is trying to use the image of trump, and trump is trying to use the image of orbán. firstly, secondly, they are building themselves, as they call it, the last rational politicians who do not want a world war, who want peace, who promote these ideas, respectively , orbán within europe, trump - within the united states, within the pre-election process , and that is why orban decided to drop such a tough, strong thesis, it should be said, moreover, even trump himself did not voice such a thesis, as you and i talked before, trump's ideas are completely different, but orban is trying to gather around himself and... anti-ukrainian forces in order to resist within the european union, to resist within nato , any ideas of supporting ukraine, he needs ours, it is part of the same blackmail and the same system of extortion, literally from the european union, concessions, money, whatever, which he used at the stage of negotiations with ukraine. remember how many times he did that declared that no negotiations can be started with ukraine, that ukraine

should in no case be a member of the eu or nato, and he remembers. how many times did he try