i actually see the vatican's possible influence as very limited to humanitarian issues like humanitarian aid like possible exchanges, can the vatican come in handy here, i have my doubts but still for the sake of the people it's worth a try if the vatican can be useful in some general way - the political aspect? here i already have very strong personal doubts that this is possible in principle, that the pope will not deviate from this course and will try to speak for himself, despite the opinion of his own of its diplomatic and non-diplomatic services. it's also completely understandable, but

this whole story, it makes me, i think it just hurts you emotionally, because it's hard, it's hard to watch when a priest of a church that is supposed to care about people and their souls actually thinks, well how i would like to say this very diplomatically, well, about... something about something completely different, well, let it stay, stay with him, i know many representatives of the catholic church who are not just sympathizers of ukraine, but work with us with their souls and a lot , and not only in the sense of humanitarian aid, so i would not spread his words to the whole church, but nevertheless he is number one and he is... for us a point of reference, so

it is very, very difficult to emotionally watch and listen to him, me, me, including, despite the fact that i have spent more than 30 years in international relations, i must admit. against this background, mr. pavle, emmanuel macron is trying to demonstrate leadership in europe, during the last two weeks, we see various statements, explanations. then clarifications, macron's hints about the troops that may be on the territory of ukraine, member countries of the north atlantic alliance, not nato, countries, specifically individual countries. in an interview with the french tv channel bfm tv, president zelenskyi said that french military personnel will not die in ukraine as long as ukraine repels the russian attack. let's listen to what president zelensky said. as long as it is in... the country, the french army will be

on the territory of france, but if putin goes to war against that other nato country, it will be the nato countries who decide how, in what number to send or not to send one's soldiers to one's armies, whole armies, combat battalions to go to war on the territory of one or another nato country. zelensky explained quite simply: there will be a war in europe , the french will fight, now there is a war on the territory of ukraine, you help us, the ukrainians are fighting, but macron already spoke about a new reality or a new security system that can be in europe, because it was not for nothing that he gathered there leaders of 20 european countries and talked about how we are now, how we will resist russia, can it be parallel from the system.

a new security system, a european, a european army, which has been talked about for a long time, or some other certain arrangements that will allow the europeans to make quick decisions, to make decisions faster than at the level of the north atlantic alliance? it is quite possible, because nothing is impossible in the modern world. we will not live in the world in which we were before the war, we understand that, everyone else so far, well... less clean, macron's merit is that he let the genie out of the bottle, this cork is somehow there took, and this problem began to take on a life of its own, it is of course emotionally very difficult, and what macron did, he launched this problem into public and political discussion before there was any minimal consensus.

within the eu and nato, as a rule, they do not do this and say that it is very wrong, controversial, but macron is an experienced politician, he actually knew and knew very well. what was done, as you remember, before this, before the summit in the french capital, other leaders also said that this issue is being discussed, i hope that i am not giving away any secrets when i say that the french representatives a few weeks before this summit addressed letters with this proposal inside, of course confidentially, that is, this conversation... the language for those involved in this was by no means something that fell from the sky, or from where, from where, more precisely , not from where, i believe that this story, it

is also about the possibility of making a bridge to nato membership, since it is perfectly clear to us that real security guarantees must be in what... way they have be reinforced, including due to the presence of troops and infrastructure elements , as it should be said here, there is no consensus yet , on the contrary, the spears are breaking, and thank god they are breaking, as a result, we need to talk, and not discuss all this under a blanket, there is a difficult position of many countries. nato, which consists in the fact that the presence of troops in ukraine during the war, fundamentally increases the probability of a conflict with russia, including a nuclear conflict, but everyone assesses the risks in their own way. but putin

accepted this idea, and as you remember, he said in his address that even quite emotionally said that those who would, they would ...uh, contribute to the tragic events, so he decided to raise the stakes. i think there are people in the west who are ready to raise the stakes. we need troops, including in order to work on joint maintenance of infrastructure elements, as well as western weapons, and many other things for training. that is, it is possible to build and cross out many spheres that are critical here, so that the discussion begins, it is great, the discussion will be difficult, it is also it is obvious whether macron's statement was positive in the context of the european elections, yes

, there are problems there, macron has his own problems within the country, both with the right and the left, but in general, i do not see any... megathreats. in the states, this statement was rather not very successful, somehow received a resonance, but also not critical, and macron understands very well, playing on the course of the election campaign, so in general i think that this move by macron, it is actually very interesting, i would somewhat otherwise approached it, but i... for sure no, macron and the situation he sees from paris sees differently, so let’s distinguish the sinful from the righteous and the actual substance of the content of this proposal from how he did it, but in general, in my opinion

, he deserves to shake his hand this proposal, which we must do. another topic that is relevant. for ukraine, this is poland, problems with poland, the polish-ukrainian border. today , oleksandr kubrakov, deputy prime minister for reconstruction, minister of community development, territories and infrastructure, in an interview with rbc ukraine, stated that the ukrainian government is doing its best to solve the problems of blocking the polish border. let's listen to what kubrakov said. i cannot say that poland, the polish government is not doing anything now. yes , we, we always want to get the result faster, but... there is a certain dialogue with the carriers, there is a memorandum signed there, fortunately they have not yet joined the farmers' strike, that is, there is a certain situation there, in a certain way i hope it will be settled with the farmers, that is, there is a more difficult discussion at the level of the european union

so i say that mixed issues and internal, internal european issues should join, conditionally speaking, our question, we are hostages in this situation, i clearly understand that this is not... fair, wrong, incorrect, and they, well, nobody i shouldn't have done it, but i say once again that there are internal political forces there , some say that they are a little there... russian, some others, it doesn't matter, but they are pumping this topic and will pump it . mr. pavle, what would you advise the current government, in the current situation with poland, with negotiations with warsaw? do not stir emotions, involve brussels and start a conversation not only as of now, but also in the context of future negotiations. and this is not an easy story, you mentioned at the beginning of the conversation that now in

brussels they are talking about the approval of the so-called negotiating framework, this is the kind of story that should determine the limits of the mandate , what the negotiators will actually do, what issues will be included, to what extent, in what priority, i agree with mr. alexander in that... what he just said, and we all heard it, but overall i assess the situation somewhat somewhat more worrying, i see the local elections in poland are very difficult, i see the european elections, which are not just so far developing for the ruling monarchy, so we will have to understand one way or another the actual a... how we conduct further negotiations, all countries, the same poland, slovakia

, hungary, the czech republic, all former countries of the european union joined the eu, in small steps, so to speak, and we already have substantial access to the markets of the european union, although it happened in such a tragic way, and this actually that logic itself the very strategy of such negotiations will be different, we will have to agree, and if we can't do that, then emotional things like the border, they will be repeated with greater and greater power, and it is very important for us to understand in general the concept of how the european union will approach reforming the joint agricultural. and those sectors that are critically sensitive for the economy of ukraine, so i do not want

to encourage anyone and say that we will solve it there tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, it should be, we have our own clear strategic framework, what and when we do, we must also understand that we need to find different avenues for our exports. understood that during the war we are very limited here, but nevertheless, the sea for us, as you well understand, is absolutely critical, and our successes there at sea, and in terms of the use of complex drones and in many other areas, they are for our economic stability and for our economic security, this is a mega-critical story, that's how it really looks, but i'm... i'm sure that we will reach, we will reach a compromise, as far as it

will correspond to our wishes, as far as he won't, he will generate some kind of betrayal in society, we'll see, that is, this compromise will definitely not be easy, but it definitely should not be on the terms of the polish side, it should be a balanced decision, today in... the commission should present a negotiation framework regarding of ukraine's accession to the eu, and approval may take several months, but for now , european commissioner for enlargement oliver vargei proposes to recognize only 24 steps of ukraine on the way to the eu as completed. what, what does that mean? this means that we will have two more points finalize whether the european commission may disagree with the european commissioner. still recognize the four points that have been fulfilled and accordingly

propose this negotiating framework that you mentioned? well, these are actually not completely interconnected things, the approval of this framework, it is not a simple political story before the european elections, and now to package how it will look is very difficult, and for the european union in general this story... and how to actually start negotiations with a belligerent country, that is, with a belligerent, with a nuclear country, like russia, so far the political will for this in general is there, but... there is no understanding, political understanding, if you will, so the detention, approval of this framework is also a desire to wait a little bit and understand, where the situation will come in a few months, and to survive the european elections, so that no one, especially the right to european elections

, will not use the approval of this framework, well , actually, not that very much... for us , history, but it makes sense, but to cling and make hooks , as commissar uhorskyi does, this is actually a story like this, that is, we are all only things that will be demanded of us, the negotiators will fulfill, but hang them like hooks for some other things, this is european politics, we understand it, but it does not work like that, that is, we need to see more... perspective, and it is not is, of course, bad for us, but nevertheless it is difficult. thank you, mr. pavle, for the conversation, it was pavlo klimkin, politician, diplomat, former minister of foreign affairs of ukraine. friends, we continue to work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. today, during the broadcast we are conducting a survey, today we are asking you about the following: are our

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poland in case of armed aggression against the country. this was announced by the deputy... chief of the general staff of poland, karol dymanowski, at the same time the president of the united states of america, stated that there is no need for additional troops of the united states of america in poland, and there is no need to expand this contingent, at least this was the information even before the visit of the president of poland andrzej duda to washington. in your opinion, is there a need now to increase the military countries. nato in poland, taking into account the threats that are assessed by representatives of european states from russia? no, we have enough troops on high alert, and it must be remembered that if we continue

to move soldiers, it will mean that people will be far from their homes. this will mean that they will not undergo routine training, they will simply sit there in readiness and expectation. we understand that america and the united states, they have huge capacities to provide reserves. of course, we also understand how powerful nato's capabilities are, and i'm sure that, for example, military aircraft can be transferred very quickly to ... and positions, but not people, because people are exhausted thus, being away from their families, they lose, unfortunately, their competences, but we understand that the threat has increased. colonel, how likely is it that vladimir putin could start a conflict, i don't mean a war, a conflict

with some nato country, just for the sake of one thing. to sit down at the negotiating table with nato and prove that vladimir putin is not negotiating with ukraine, but putin is negotiating with nato about some kind of coexistence on the european continent? you are here many things were mentioned, first of all, there is no such thing as an attack on one of the participating countries, if he... attacks such a country, a nato member, then it means that he is launching an attack against the entire alliance, that is, we understand that.. . nato on the ground, in the sea, in the sky, nevertheless, there is a huge quantitative advantage, this is, firstly, secondly, there is no such chance,

in general, an opportunity to disconnect, that is, to look, to shift the focus from europe, or to somehow separate europe, the european union and the sco, of course, putin... administration of the president of the united states of america at the end of 2022 was developing a response plan if putin uses nuclear weapons in ukraine, the new york times wrote about this, administration representatives said that the response of the united states should be non- nuclear. but they quickly added that it would have to be some kind of dramatic response, perhaps even a conventional strike against the units that launched the nuclear weapons, or they would risk

emboldening not only russian dictator putin, but any other authoritarian a leader with a nuclear arsenal, large or small. moscow did not comment on this information in any way, but what kind of warning could it have been . of the united states of america, other than what could have been a conventional strike on the launchers that launch the nuclear weapons, or could washington have said much more to putin? firstly, there were already warnings, we do not expect russia to do anything, we spoke clearly from the side. by the us and by other countries, after all, it was from 2014, which ruled out any nuclear attack, and we know that there were

even talks with the president of china on this issue, if putin decides to dare a nuclear strike, he understands what will happen in response. we know that it will be a de facto collapse for russia, the fact is that the us has so many different types of weapons, they don't even have to dare to use nuclear weapons, they have really a lot of soldiers who are ready ready to intervene, or with using other types of conventional weapons, putin is aware of this, and he understands that now he is bluffing. and if, if he will dare to take such a radical step , he will simply sign his own death sentence, because the people who are in putin's circle, whose children

are now in europe, in america, they have real estate there, of course, they do not want their entire future to be simply destroyed because of putin's ambitions, that is, to put it simply, putin can be killed, but not allowed. of a nuclear war, yes, i think so, if not to kill, then somehow to eliminate, i don't know, some psychiatric clinic, for example, yes, we, it is a very radical step, to use a nuclear weapon, but we understand that the entire network of people, acquaintances, close circle of putin, they are not ready for this. what will be the chain reaction, putin is playing like this now, and let him continue bluffing, he knows clearly what will happen if he

dares to take such a step. mr. colonel, for the past few months we have been watching how the federal chancellor of germany, olaf scholz, is being tried to be convinced that he should provide long-range missiles to ukraine. taurus, there was even an appeal to the bundestag regarding the transfer, possible transfer of taurus to ukraine. the german chancellor said that he does not want to create any misleading expectations, therefore once again confirms the impossibility of transferring taurus missiles to ukraine. let's hear what scholz said. regarding one weapon system, considering the efficiency and method of application, believes. that it cannot be used without control, but the participation of the german military is not justified, even from outside the borders of ukraine. my clear position on this

issue is that... my task is certainly not to create any misleading expectations as chancellor, as head of government, and my answers are accordingly clear. colonel, what is scholz afraid of? it is necessary to remember, yes, what it represents. left-wing politicians, and left-wing politicians , they very often intertwined their relations with russia, they wanted to believe that russia is a good partner, that is, his party never had a pro-american orientation in the past, to say that he is talking nonsense now, and i will say, because not to use

such missiles is just wrong. there are more chances that this conflict can reach germany as well, and i think, unfortunately, he cannot think about all this at the same time and sleep so peacefully, because he says, on the one hand, we need to fight russia, and on the other hand, he says that we cannot provide ukraine with the necessary weapons to defeat russia, and this does not make sense, it is some kind of nonsense, i do not know how he can sleep at night, expressing such ideas, against this background the head of foreign affairs. britain's david cameron last week declared his readiness to work closely with german partners to help ukraine, in particular, he did not rule out the possibility of a ring exchange, when berlin transfers taurus missiles to london, and london sends another batch of storm shadow to ukraine. the minister of foreign affairs of germany, anna lena burbock, also does not rule out such a possibility, and let's hear what ms. burbock said. ring exchange is

a german invention so to speak, it would be an option and we have already done it with other equipment some time ago. well, that is, germany wants to shift the responsibility, mr. colonel, to great britain, although great britain already helps, provides important assistance to ukraine. yes, of course, the position of great britain is quite clear, we gave what we give and we will give give what we can. yes, in the past and now, when we talk about support for ukraine, great britain plays a leading role. we are just using financial

resources to buy out. weapons in other countries and transfer those weapons to ukraine, but of course, everyone understands that no one can defeat such a country as russia if only one weapon is at your disposal. of course, we are acting both diplomatically and financially, trying to convince germany to give up these missiles. ukraine is in great need of such missiles, people, civilians and military die. because of this, that is, it turns out that if such missiles are not provided, then they just have a passive participation in the killings. mr. colonel, president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi said in an interview with the french tv channel bfmtv that the situation at the front is now improving in ukraine. let's listen to what president zelensky said. the situation is much better than the last three.

months, that is, we had some difficulties due to the lack of artillery shells, long range, blocking the sky and the large number and density of russian drones federation, we worked very well on russian aviation, we have now leveled the situation in the east, russia's advance has been stopped. mr. colonel, against this background, cia director william burns stated that ukraine can regain the offensive initiative in late 2024 and early 2025, provided that the congress and senate of the united states of america restore funding to ukraine. unless the united states of america restores it.