weapons, it will be a disaster and so on, here it seems that they conveyed some kind of greeting more like that, you know, in such a veiled version, and putin specifically made it clear through an interview that if he had received this hint, he would have taken it to attention and gives it back a little. thank you, mr. igor, mr. volodymyr , putin has an arrest warrant from the international criminal court, that is, his current status is such that he is a suspect, he is a criminal and... for the whole world he was and remains a criminal, and it is clear that in this putin probably has no idea what's going on with him no one will hold any negotiations, nothing will be agreed upon, will some time come and the world will talk about something with putin, or will it already talk with the new leader of russia, but without putin? well, i wouldn't take wishful thinking now, but it's too early to say that no one will lead at all.

negotiations with putin, unfortunately , but on certain issues, by the way, we will have to deal not with putin, but with russia, if only to end the war, but we will have to negotiate, there will simply be no other way, but and the west will also maintain certain contacts with russia, in order to prevent a nuclear conflict, and well in general. to solve certain issues, as they did in the times when there was a soviet union, and now with putin also from time to time. regarding this interview and in general the guarantees that putin spoke about. the interview is part of the election campaign, it is obvious. now is the last week, but at the same time, putin used it for signals to the west. absolutely agree that it is primarily aimed at the us, this one putin's stereotype is that only... the usa can

conduct negotiations, only the usa decides everything, and ukraine and europe will only comply. this stamp remains with putin. he still does not understand that it will not be possible to reach any agreement on the end of the war without the consent of ukraine. he still believes that it is possible and necessary to negotiate only with the americans. so the important question is about these so-called guarantees, which putin said, what do they mean? well, based on some publications, as well as information from diplomatic sources, i can to say that the following is meant by security guarantees for russia. first of all, of course, this is a topic of public recognition that ukraine will never be in nato. putin sought this before the start of the war against ukraine. here, colleagues mentioned the ultimatum that was put forward.

western russia, primarily the usa and nato. yes, this goal remains. putin wants both ukraine and the west to officially deny that ukraine will never join nato. this goal remains for him. secondly, this is an important point, this is the so -called demilitarization. some appear reports that putin insists, by the way, he insisted on this when there were negotiations in istanbul. insists that, in the process of agreeing on the end of the war, ukraine agreed to the essential limitation of its armed forces, especially its missile weapons, well, everything that can harm russia, including the reduced number of the army, the reduced number of heavy weapons, missiles, and so on , aviation, to have such tight restrictions, plus the creation of demilitarized zones, along the line. demarcation of conditional, as well as along

borders, in fact, this should make us absolutely defenseless against new russian aggression, and this will be the guarantee that we will be effectively under the control of russia, even if it does not matter what government will be in kyiv, ukraine will always be under the threat of russia, that's what he is trying, but it is completely unacceptable for us and with well... i never say never, but i think that with a very high probability neither we nor our western partners will consider such demands from putin, in general any previous demands from putin about the start of some negotiations , they will be unacceptable, but putin is taking advantage of the fact that now, unfortunately, there are problems with military aid from the united states, he is now somewhat arrogant and is starting to put forward again... that's it

a signal to our western partners, if they do not want to lose, if they do not want to look weak in the eyes of putin, then it is necessary to... solve the current problems, restore and increase aid to our country, and while putin himself offers the world to prepare some guarantees or proposals for him, in the verkhovna rada of ukraine , the draft law on mobilization is being prepared for the second reading, today 's meeting of the committee on national security and defense did not take place, there were a lot of amendments to this draft law between the first and second... reading, as people's deputy of ukraine yaroslav zheleznyak says , the committee on national security and defense managed to consider only 10% of the amendments proposed by the deputies, so according to his forecasts, the law on mobilization will be adopted no earlier than in a month. let's listen to what he said

yaroslav zheleznyak. it looks like we will pass it only in april, accordingly, in april, there may be a vote there, accordingly, it will come into force already. well, people's deputy of ukraine mykhailo tsimbalyuk said on espressu that the law on mobilization, despite all the amendments , will still have certain restrictions on the rights and freedoms of citizens. let's listen. undoubtedly, the state should regulate these processes, and we, as legislators , should give mechanisms to state bodies , including law enforcement, how to respond to one or another. challenge, i emphasize again, when we talk about mobilization, we have to start with those boys and girls who are on the front lines today, they, a certain part, or the greater part, have been without rest for two years, we have to think about them, because of this they lose their fighting capacity, lose their state of health. i,

it is necessary to restore people and in return to direct those people, but i emphasize once again, to direct and mobilize people through passage. state of health, and these people should clearly know for what period the state will mobilize them. mr. oleksiyu, the issue of the law on mobilization is a political issue, or not still socio-political, how would you describe it? well, of course, that this is a socio-political issue, it is not a purely military issue, that is, the military should take advantage of the fruits of law-making activity, which is usually done by the political leadership, which does not want to bear absolutely any responsibility for mobilization, it becomes clear, every day i i read which amendments were rejected, which will definitely not be included,

and the question arises, i am not here right now, so to speak, i do not stand for the law on mobilization or against it, i simply state that... in order not to it turned out that the law on strengthening mobilization will simply be a law on the introduction of several norms, new clarifications and certain guarantees, so to speak, this can also be good, but it seems to me that this will not solve the problem of mobilization, and everything is clear here, absolutely, sociology says that the ukrainian people advocate voluntarily. mobilization with monetary motivation, well , not only motivation in such a way that, in principle , completely contradicts the very concept of mobilization, the authorities see this and do not want any responsibility, i think that, well, i am, i am

recently met, here recently yesterday i met with my military friend, he is a military man, so to speak, he graduated from the military department. accidentally became a volunteer and immediately had to leave the 22nd year , so to speak, for an officer's position at the front, and he tells, well, he constantly thinks about the topic, and somewhere really, so to speak , to take people to replace those who have been fighting for two years and some of them have been fighting since the 19th and 18th years, and in nin he sees that there is a possible way out, and offered a way out with zelensky, so with this audit, he claims, my friend claims, that a huge number of professional soldiers are not in the positions at the front that they should occupy, and this is actually done by

a lot of such people who, in principle, never they didn't graduate from military universities, nothing, well, they don't have the appropriate education there, corresponding to this and... maybe under all the guarantees that silsky will find, well, he talked about this in his interview, so that they will conduct an audit, they will find people, and the authorities are delaying the adoption of the law as much as possible about mobilization. thank you, mr. oleksiy. mr. igor, in your opinion, would it be possible to pass this draft law as urgent, if president zelensky submitted it personally and marked it as urgent, mobilize the parliament, vote this draft bill very quickly, make it a law, and accordingly remove all these issues , because all the same, there is tension in society about the fact that it will be a draft law? and what will be the restrictions, and will there not be these restrictions, and what, and what will happen? well,

of course, if the president took it upon himself political responsibility, which already rests on him according to the constitution, and he submitted this bill or was more actively involved, for example, in the submission and consideration of this bill, it seems to me that we would see a slightly different picture, the deputies would be more responsible well, to work on it, that is, there would not be these wild interruptions that we currently see in... the verkhovna rada, in my opinion, they are absolutely unacceptable, especially during the war, and it was possible to accept them there a long, long time ago this law, but here the question is that we would have to share the political responsibility and take it upon ourselves, well, i don't see particularly big political pluses, but here to a large extent the minuses themselves are political, that is, to take on part of these minuses , the banks decided that they didn't need it, and the people's deputies, they must drink this cup to the bottom, as they say, and... this law, accordingly, all the negativity must go to them. by the way, i will not be surprised that even if it is voted there in april,

the president can also veto it, indicate that it is necessary to change one or two the positions that will be there will remain controversial, the deputies will change, and the president will then get some bonuses for himself on the background of this, well, the problem is simply that it is bad for the country, because the situation is seriously delayed, and one more point, we forget about the fact that, unfortunately, consideration. of this law fell on the classic parliamentary crisis that we have today, i do not see in the verkhovna rada, for example, a coalition, unfortunately, there is none, and this, in principle, also greatly affects the speed and and and on the quality in principle of consideration and adoption of this law. well, but the absence of a coalition , mr. volodymyr, does not change the situation that exists in ukraine, and it is clear that no matter what political crisis there is in the parliament or the parliamentary committee within the verkhovna rada, it is still necessary to resolve the issue of the war

quickly enough, what do you think prevents solving these issues and in particular regarding the law on mobilization? well, i'm not sure that if this bill were introduced by the president, it would make a big difference. well, let's go let's be honest in society, there is a very ambivalent, ambiguous, contradictory attitude not to the bill on mobilization, but to mobilization, let 's be honest, a significant part, i don't want to say now in some absolute categories, there are statistical ones and so on, but a significant part of our fellow citizens, in words , remaining patriots, does not really want to fight, does not want their loved ones to go to the front, but this must be admitted, this is the first, and secondly, unfortunately, not only the government, but also the opposition. er is not aware of everyone risks and problems

of prolonging the situation with mobilization, if, for example, after the presidential elections in russia, god forbid, but a new wave of mass mobilization will begin in russia, and there is, well, let's say this, certain information, assumptions, we simply have no other way out will be, how to carry out mobilization, you asked me what it is, political or socio-political, it is a state need, it is a need for... self-defense, it just might happen to us that there will be no other way out, and the question is not in that there is a need for rotation, it is needed, it is necessary to give rest to the people who are on the front lines, but now there can be no demobilization, because, well, let's put it this way, the russians already have a numerical advantage at the front, yes, we need to restore the situation of balance, regarding the consideration in the verkhovna rada radi, 4000 amendments, from where? yaroslav's forecasts, i talked to him, and

i read his posts about the situation, he is good there, well, let's say, quite, let's say, he describes in detail what the situation is around this draft law, the committee is considering, but all this must be summarized, the real position , well let's say, at least two opposition factions, it is already obvious that they will not vote for this draft law, maybe they will not oppose it, but they will not support it. in whatever form it may be, approximately 170 votes are expected for this draft law, plus there are some majoritarians, maybe some, well, deputies will vote unanimously, in principle. 243 votes were read, and there are also chances that it can be approved, but in order for these 400 amendments to be summarized and processed, well, at least until the end of march, we will have to committee to work on this, the technology was applied, which at one time was used against agrarian reform, land reform and some other,

let's say, reform bills, as well as against mobilization, so the problem here is not in power, but in... in public attitudes, under that specific politicians are also adjusting, and both in the pro-government faction of some politicians and the opposition, and therefore everyone must now realize that this is a state interest, a state issue of the survival of the state now, mr. volodymyr, while we are discussing this british the press writes about mobilization, writes with reference to sources of the ministry of defense that the law on mobilization... provides for the replacement of 330,000 soldiers who are at the front, the new law on mobilization, replacement no, no, i quote the financial times, what it says : a new law on mobilization to be put to a vote in parliament on march 31 aims to update ukraine's legislative framework ahead of this year's conscription wave , during which up to

500,000 people could be called up, mostly to replace 330,000 exhausted fighters , which are now howling on the front line, this is written by ff, maybe listen, you should not take everything written in the western media as the truth in the last resort, they make many mistakes, often just quote the statements of some of our experts, sometimes experts in quotes, not about any replacement it is not mentioned, it is simply unreal, and you know why this is happening, because in principle no one officially comments in ukraine, well, the law on mobilization, that is, the supreme commander-in-chief. i remember the last comments about 500 00, which was demanded by the person who was dedicated to mobilization, so there is the question, well, someone writes, i quoted him , by the way, this story with mobilization, the law on mobilization can become one of the elements of this program of special operations, informational and psychological, perun, which we mentioned, mr. oleksiy, you did not comment

on that , how likely is it that the russians will use for... our information space and pump it in order to influence the situation in ukraine, or simply put, to destabilize the situation in ukraine, how do you currently assess russia's capabilities and ukrainians' inclination to , in order to behave on this pso? can i comment a little more, i completely agree with volodymyr, completely, the problem is something else, the problem is that he, all the words he said are absolutely correct, the problem is that it should not say... expert these the president of ukraine should come out and say the words, well, that's what i said, and everything, everything, whenever they need , they bend all these factions, and all the service apparatus that kolomoiskyi has left there, what a subvocal, opzzh, when they need it, yes, they are all there under the article they go, that's why they vote as they should, and when

they need to, listen, well, we understand that, we all do, lord, not for the first time. this country, and everyone understands perfectly well, i would come out , say clearly, i put my authority, my rating , yes, because it is a state one, and now it is just being thrown, that's all, hot coals, so to speak, are being thrown from one to another one thing, the verkhovna rada is not popular in our country anyway, so, let it completely shut down, so to speak, with this mobilization law, and the majoritarians, very many deputies do not want to vote, because they know the mood on the ground, especially the majoritarians. so that after voting for this law, if the state, of course, remains, yes, but even in 10 years they will remember this vote, well, such sentiments, i am here so to speak, i am so that there are other options, but what was completely rejected by zelenskyi, yes, it would create a government of national unity and everyone, so to speak, so that everyone would answer, everyone, so to speak, stand

as guarantors, so to speak, of the vote of this law on mobilization, because it concerns... our statehood, regarding the russian ibso, answering the question whether the first, so to speak, in principle, i believe that i believed that, in principle , our statehood field somehow more or less copes with the russian pso, people somehow everything they still understand where the objective information ends, where the russian pso begins , but lately, i am beginning to doubt something, and this is based on my own example, just like that, i recently... became the hero of the program of diana panchenko, who all perfectly know in this field works, yes, which works with of russia, already has more than a million on youtube. and this material about me was given to me by a ukrainian military man, i asked him why did you watch it at all, well, because everything else

is bullshit, as he said, well, he means the telethon and so on and so forth, he watches, and big, and now i see the reaction of people who write to me, so many people do not know her biography or where she comes from, in general, they perceive it as an alternative, just an alternative, it's stupid... russian ipso is perceived as an alternative in that one is quite elusive the information policy that comes from the telethon, for example, let's take another example about ipsu russian, that is strana yua, which works great, i constantly see the photos that they show, that is the shelling in kyiv, they immediately have photos, that is, journalists are working, every day they post some videos where they are allegedly workers, this is... they beat ukrainians, where ukrainian military personnel, allegedly ukrainian military personnel, complain that they have been completely abandoned, this is every day, every

day it affects millions of people , of course, that we need to look for some countermeasures methods, otherwise, well, i'll be honest, otherwise this turns into a huge problem, because , for example, i'm sure that 80% of the relation to mobilization, such a negative one, is... including the rather successful work of the russian ipso. thank you, mr. oleksiy. mr. igor, how can you resist this ipso? well, look , first of all, we really need to change the approaches to information policy, they need a certain modernization, to end it in some way, well, it won’t work in a directive way, here it’s just in the context of some kind of alternative, the creation of an alternative to all these anonymous telegram channels and by the way, with all due respect, but it seems to me that a certain responsibility for this coven organized by anonymous telegram channels in ukraine is also borne by the office of the president, because he was the first to

actively involve them in such, you know, information policy, through all the telegram channels to pour out various information, including attacking competitors and so on, and a large part of people got hooked on channels that are not even pro-russian, but in fact they very easily come across someone there and publish it in including myself, me enough, you know, i monitor a large number of these telegram channels in such detail to see what is happening there, and the actions are planned there, they are very visible, and unfortunately, not all of them come from russia, so something must be done with these anonymous telegram- channels, to create some alternatives that will be checked, verified, and really here , well, i absolutely agree with mr. alexim that it is necessary to simply give something, you know, in exchange for people so that... they stop reading all this, informative, sorry, crap , read something more or less relevant information, verified, which will be correlated there, well, really with the issues

that are in ukraine and give answers to more important issues that concern people, and well , the second point, of course, here it is related to the fact that it is necessary to continue somehow to jam and fight with these russian propagandists, because even though they are sitting in russia, including some of our former fellow citizens, because i am convinced that all these... shpanchenko and so on, they have had russian passports for a long time, they are somehow through youtube and other platforms, they have the opportunity to convey their information, so we need to work on blocking this opportunity for them, thank you mr. igor, mr. volodymyr, we literally have a minute left on the air, what to do with russian pso? well , look, shit, not only in telegram channels, but oleksiy mentioned panchenko on youtube, unfortunately , we don't have enough shit on youtube. there is also crap on facebook, i don’t know if there is an account of the same diana panchenko, yes, but there is probably tiktok, let’s remember, by the way, what they want there now, on

who want to influence the usa, i heard hilary clinton's speech in munich in february on tiktok, 50 times more pro-russian information than 50 times more pro-ukrainian, that's an example there too, yes. therefore, here, the method of banning , unfortunately, one ban, will not solve the problem, especially since we cannot simply physically ban everything, yua’s formal country is banned, formally, but they constantly change their ip addresses and so on there, but react quickly , mark the same one about diana panchenko so that it is always in different ones in forms of mentioning where she is, who she works for, and so on, you need to respond to fake frank ones. immediately operational, and here i definitely agree that a more concentrated, systematic overhaul is needed, excuse me, volodymyr fesenko, igoriterovych and

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