the decision and resolution of the verkhovna rada that we will never recognize fake elections in the temporarily occupied territories, after that the representatives of the mono-majority left, well , the truth is after the alarm, so what, we returned to our workplaces after the alarm, they left on that's all , that is why i am telling you absolutely responsibly, there is no political will and political presence of the monomajority from within the parliament, i think that they need to figure this out and then everything will fall into place. the first thing for them is probably volodymyr zelenskyi as the leader of this monomajority and in general, i wouldn't say that it's not a kindergarten, you know, that they constantly have to point to a portrait or the president , well, they're people's deputies, well, the president is the commander-in-chief, he has his own job, and as we see every day and every night, people's deputies, here i am my belief is that they should also work 24/7 and they need their place'. well, i don't know where they all actually

went and on what business trips, but it's time to go back and work. thank you, mr. valentin, for the conversation, it was valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on youtube and facebook. if you watch us on youtube, take part in the vote. today we ask you about whether the west will dare to send its troops to ukraine. yes no. everything is quite simple for you, if you have a separate opinion, your own opinion, leave it in the comments under this video. if you watch us on tv with a friend smartphone and vote if you think the west will dare to send its troops to ukraine 0.800 211 381, no 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, vote. next, we have yevhen magda, executive director of the institute of world politics, mr. yevhen, i... congratulations, thank you for being with us today,

congratulations, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, well, since we are asking our viewers and tv viewers, what do they think, will the west dare to send its troops to ukraine, i will ask you about this too, i proceed from the logic that people who are thinking about their upcoming elections will not... approve such a year, which means that germany and france, germany and poland, that is, olaf scholz and donald tusk, well, i am talking about the participants of today's meeting of the weimar triangle in the first place, they most likely will not go to this, while emmanuel macron , who is in his second presidential term, and has a certain space to respond to it. mr. yevgeny, macron actually

started this big discussion, whether these foreign troops will be on the territory of ukraine or not, he spoke with hints, in some conversations with the leaders of the political forces of france, in interviews with tf-1 and france-2 he stated that the war in ukraine there is existential for europe and for france, but ruled out the possibility that... troops would attack russia. let's hear what macron said. we will never be on the offensive. we will never take the initiative. france is a force for peace, but today, in order to have peace in ukraine, we must not be weak. therefore, we must soberly look at the situation and say with determination, will and courage that we are ready to invest resources to achieve our goal, which is that russia ... does not win, well, that is, macron

said that the offensive against russia will not lead france, but i understand that he does not rule out the transfer of separate forces of the french army to ukraine. information appeared earlier, in the event that the russians will advance on kyiv or odesa, after all, what is on macron's mind, on his tongue, we hear about what he says, and what he thinks? i believe that emmanuel macron has started a game, a political game for informal leadership in europe, a position similar to what angela merkel once held during her chancellorship, but angela merkel's position was based primarily on economic power germany and... this must be understood, and the position

of emmanuel macron in this situation, in conditions where a large-scale russian invasion has been going on for almost 750 days. it is military-political, it is logical, because the russian-ukrainian war is the biggest war in the modern world, and it creates a certain background, and accordingly, macron acts in the way that he currently organizes, provides, so i think that this discussion, it is fueled by historical experience, because the french already landed in odessa a little... more than 100 years ago, the presence of a foreign legion as part of the armed forces in france, and the fact that, as i said, emmanuel macron is

in the presidential term, i am in the frame. mr. yevgeny, the connection is very bad, sorry, we will redial you now. friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel and on our youtube and facebook platforms, we continue voting, we are asking you what you think about whether the west will dare to send its troops to ukraine, yes, no, if you are on youtube everything is quite simple, if you are sitting in front of the tv, take it in your hands phone or smartphone and vote if you think the west will dare to send its troops to ukraine, 0 800 211 300. 81 no 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free, and at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. we are waiting for the inclusion of yevhen magda, some unstable connection, unfortunately, with our guest

today, yevhen magda already mentioned that today macron, scholz and tusk met in berlin, this is the so-called weimar triangle. france, germany and poland agreed on the fact that revenues from russian assets in the european union will be used to purchase weapons for ukraine, and this was announced by olaf scholz at a joint press conference with french president emmanuel macron and polish prime minister donald tusk. he says that today the leaders of the three states reached an agreement. that they will buy weapons for ukraine on the global market, and we will develop cooperation in the production of weapons, thanks to our cooperation with partners in ukraine, says macron. within the framework of the coalition

ramstein, uh, the leaders of the weimar weimar triangle said, they are going to create a coalition of... the purchase of long-range missiles and artillery, and all the proceeds from frozen russian assets will be used to purchase weapons in ukraine, we have already contacted yevgeny magda, mr. yevgeny, we have not finished with macron himself, let's continue, regarding macron's position and why he articulates, why he is so active now in european politics, i think. that among other things macron not only because it the second presidential term, not only because there is historical experience, but also because the united states lost a certain leadership in support of ukraine due to the crisis that currently exists in relations between

democrats and republicans, and which is unlikely to end quickly, well, i would say decided, because... that the presidential campaign is only gaining momentum, therefore, accordingly, emmanuel macron has become an active foreign policy player, because this is a way through actions on the international arena to receive his own and political dividends in that number of we have already mentioned today's meeting of the weimar triangle of scholz, macron and tusk, and what do you say, mr. yevgeny, about this idea that the frozen assets will be used to purchase weapons for ukraine, why is there no worldwide support for this use of these frozen

assets, because we are talking somewhere around the world about the amount of 300 billion dollars, and maybe more. there are several reasons. first. there was no legal act that would record the defeat of russia in this war, that is, there was no analogue of the nuremberg chitoki process, respectively. over german and japanese war criminals. then, after him, after the second world war, everything was clear enough. as well as a series of treaties after the first world war. and here, i think that the western establishment still thinks, does not rule it out for itself, and i would not begin to condemn so intensively, now i will explain why. does not rule out for himself. well, some kind of return of russia to international, well,

let's say, more intense, more civilized communication. there is also superficial interest. russia directly says that as soon as you start use our assets, we'll take yours. and this will mean, well, let's say, if for individual states i will, i think, it will also mean a political crisis, because... russian propaganda will actively promote this in these countries, well, conditionally, some financial organization, which works on the territory of russia, uh, and russia takes it away, takes away all the assets, then i think that at the same time it will spread in the country where the mother office of this organization is located , information that... "we we take away everything from you, everything is bad for you, and in general, well, you are here it is not clear who, that is, russia skillfully

plays on these things, we have to understand that, and that is why the world is looking for an acceptable way, that is, on the one hand, they want to help ukraine, and this desire is sincere enough, because the factor of empathy in helping ukraine should not be excluded , he..." is indeed present, but at the same time we have to realize that the west is trying to protect its own interests, and there is nothing unnatural about that, in my opinion. mr. yevgeny, over the past few days we have been watching the unfolding of hostilities on the territory of the russian federation, the so-called russian volunteers, are there former prisoners there, russian volunteers, rdk, freedom of russia, the siberian battalion, all this is happening on the eve of the president. presidential, so-called presidential elections, pseudo-elections, why

, in your opinion, did putin play democracy in these elections at all, since there is already a complete autocracy, that is , there is no other candidate, it is clear that this is simply an automatic extension of putin’s powers, and whether this will not be the last election for putin from a point of view vision in general of any game of democracy, when he will simply become the king. i don't know if he will gain some status there and will live until either he is killed or until he dies his own death. i think that putin's re-election process should prove to the russians that everything is fine with them, that they are really not waging a war, but a special military operation, and that is why putin's reaction to the actions of russian volunteers'. it is quite indicative, he reacts to them, telling about the huge

sacrifices and so on, but he said that ukraine did not fail to achieve success, he usually acts in an understandable, fairly obvious propaganda context, but at the same time it should be realized that putin, for example, does not comment on attacks on russian oil refineries. ban on the export of gasoline, it is true , but he is forced to comment on the attacks of russian volunteers, because they have too much resonance, that is, it affects those people who live in the border zone, and their evacuation or flight there also causes a certain public interest, these actions russian volunteers, they definitely make sense for the reason that they allow freedom'. putin's regime, we must be aware that putin's regime has taken root

in russia for a long time, and it will be extremely difficult to remove it quickly, but simply, you know, how to erase with an eraser, some pencil sketch on paper. what is called putin's election can already be said today, i think, with a high degree of probability that he will win more than. 85% i, i honestly assumed that, at first, even more than 90, but now i will make a more conservative prediction with your permission, more than 85%. that is, it will definitely be the highest result in the entire history of putin's participation in the elections, and he will receive a mandate of trust and a mandate of the imaginary unity of russian citizens around the military leader, and therefore i quite obviously assume that

thanks to this mandate, thanks to the fact that the russians demonstrate their own desire. .. to be with putin, russia can attack one of the nato countries, attack with conventional weapons, but keeping his hand on the nuclear buttons, and talking about whether it is worth, well, you know, on the eve of world war ii, they were talking about whether it is worth dying for danzeh, and now the question will be asked whether it is worth dying for tallinn, or whether it is worth dying there for lublin, and... i do not rule out, by the way, that this attack may take place through the territory of belarus and with the support of the belarusian troops, i am very skeptical about the possible participation of the belarusian troops in hostilities against ukraine, but it could be against nato, that is, russian propaganda in this direction and belarusian propaganda work in a sufficiently coordinated manner, it is quite

the most likely option at the moment, and the western world, which... is watching this, and i know, for example, that at the munich security conference the invasion of russia was considered as a likely scenario, they should act more actively and draw conclusions from historical mistakes, primarily their own and their predecessors. think back to 2008, georgia. i am not underestimating the fact that the position of the ukrainian authorities was the same, and so was yours. that is, if it were not for viktor yushchenko and his visit to tbilisi, we would have covered ourselves with shame as a country. because the verkhovna rada failed condemn the aggression of russia, i think you remember that, and accordingly, if this happened , now, after the large-scale aggression of russia, it would be much more difficult for us to seek

the support of the civilized world, but this happened more than 15 years ago, we will not now to... let's return to this in detail, we will talk about the fact that such an escalation on the part of russia should receive a consolidated response from the civilized world, and the more actively consultations within nato and the european union will take place now, the more actively it will demonstrate ukraine's capacity for internal transformations, namely the capacity for internal transformation. transformations, not emotional diplomacy, the more chances we have that we can collectively fight back, we can stop, because as far as i understand, as far as i see sociological research, i would say mildly, that west of of ukraine, the readiness to fight against russia is radically lower than in

ukraine, it is true, and if before a large-scale invasion of ukraine... more than 90% of western experts and analysts said that ukraine would collapse, then i even i don't know what the forecasts will be if russia starts playing with its muscles and really implements the creation of its two new military districts on the borders with nato countries. the west must act preventively, strengthen sanctions, shake russia from the inside. and we, ukraine, as a victim of aggression, have a full moral right to say that dismantling russia is the only possible way to ensure a safe world, living in a world without russia is normal, it's just that western politicians are afraid to imagine it, many of them

it is convenient to live in the same world with russia, because there's a number of... reasons i won't get into money and all that right now, but having a situational ally like that who you can pull someone over when needed is very beneficial, and it was very beneficial to play on the contradictions between the european union and the united states at the time , and russia spared no money supporting, for example, romano prodi and silvia berlusconi in italy, and in the czech republic. vaclav klaus and milos zeman, while simultaneously supporting, you understand, and, for example, in the czech republic, russia was frightened only by vaclav havel, who was a man of firm democratic principles and the more people in the western world will lean towards business as usual with russia, the more they will face the threat that

russian soldiers will come for their, sorry, already worn underwear and used washing machines, this threat will grow , and what they saw on tv, it can be embodied in life and completely in... other realities, not such as ukrainian ones. russia, unfortunately, knows very well how the western world works, it knows how the principles of democracy work, and it actively works with it, and, for example, undermining the trust in relations between poland and ukraine, this is quite an obvious prelude to possible aggression against poland and other nato countries, or, for example, the desire to interfere in the elections in one way or another... to shake the situation in the united states, it is the same, or to elevate russian, pro-russian parties in germany, these are also actions

aimed at strengthening the role of russia. russia skillfully uses hybrid instruments of influence. by the way, they have learned well that in this way you can achieve your goals much cheaper than using armed the forces experienced. such losses during the war in ukraine, which continues even now. yesterday, during a video address to ukrainians, president zelenskyi, mr. yevgeny, said that ukraine is stockpiling domestically produced long-range weapons. let's listen to what zelensky said. i had the opportunity to thank the workers of our defense complex, the people who... devoted their lives to the ukrainian force, who make our weapons that manifest themselves at the front, at sea in air strikes against the russian system of war. thank you for

ukrainian shells, guns, drones, for our missiles, for our rep systems, for everything that helps our soldiers fight, protects the lives of ukraine and ukrainians, there will be even more of our weapons, shells, our drones, our rep systems and every day... we accumulate more and more of this strength, such necessary strength, such far-reaching strength of ours. the third year of the great war. the president is talking about the fact that we are beginning to accumulate long-range weapons of perpetual production. the president says that we are starting to build fortifications at a distance of two 200 km, which necessary for us to protect ourselves from the russian...occupiers, why do you think these decisions are being made with such a delay and these decisions are being talked about, well , they are talking now, but obviously we will see some kind

of result. mr. sergey, for ethical reasons and for the reasons of a person who is a citizen of a country that has become a victim of aggression, i will not question the words of volodymyr zelenskyi, i would very much like them to find... an embodiment directly on the battlefield, and then i think we'll all be grateful, just as the president is grateful to the workers of the ukrainian defense and industrial complex. i am well aware that it is not within our competence now to discuss what kind of missiles may appear tomorrow, or in what numbers, how they may appear, but when it is seen that during the last month the costs of... attacks on fortifications, then the question arises as to who and what was thinking further, before that, and what were the conclusions, despite the fact that indeed, well, for

these almost 700 already 50 days, there were different moments in our struggle with russia, and they were relative rest, i don't want to talk about it now, i want to to return to another, i think, and you and our audience. remember how the armed forces of ukraine sank the missile cruiser moscow with the help of ukrainian neptune missiles, right? tell me, have you seen, have you heard, that we communicate this with our nato partners, that we remind about it, for example, in the turkish media, do something similar to such an information show and talk about it, because... thanks to the fact that moscow is at the bottom, turkey began to dominate completely in the black sea, russia ceased to be just its competitor, do you understand? that is, we have

talk to our partners in the language of our common interests, and rocket racer moscow is with russian vocabulary, the aircraft carrier was shot down, the fact that the aircraft carrier was shot down turned into a diving object, how is it treated in the american sixth fleet, we were somehow interested in this, i just , that we should not only thank our manufacturers for their support. and strengthen our defense capabilities, this is quite natural, but we must communicate our victories, this includes raising morale and speaking about our future successes, we must create an atmosphere that allows us to be convinced of further successes, and not simply react to russia's attempts to sow despair and

doubts in ukraine. problems, that is what actually consists of today, i think, our joint task, well, that is, the russians are much more effective in spreading their information than we are, because their state information machine is subordinated to a single interest, to destroy our independence, in our state information machine has different interests, and push... representatives of the opposition away and imitate violent activity, and sometimes cover up some inefficient management actions, so they, you know, we have to remember one simple thing, that in russia there are people who consider it an honor to serve the russian empire, which for some reason pretends to be russian by the federation, there are enough of them, and they do it consistently enough, and they will be very pleased.

if the scalp of ukraine hangs on their wall, but i think that will never happen as long as we exist and as long as there are ukrainian defense forces that from the first days, from the first hours, they destroyed the myth that russia is capable of destroying ukraine, it was the defense forces of ukraine from the first days, of the large-scale invasion, that destroyed the illusion that russia can... could, and we have to use this fact today in our own common interests , for our independence, in order for us to feel more confident, and not just be, well, i don't know, strangers at this holy victory over russia, we have to talk about how to dismantle russia, in which the way is to do and discuss it with our partners

as intensively as possible. thank you, mr. yevgeny, for the conversation, it was yevhen magda, executive director of the institute of world politics. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, we conduct surveys on youtube and on tv. we are asking you today whether the west will dare to send its troops to ukraine. let's look at the intermediate results of the poll on tv. so 44%, yes, 56%. no, according to our viewers, on youtube we have a ratio of 46 on 54, well, have almost the same ratio, after a short news break, which will be performed by our colleagues from the bbc, we will return to the studio, we will have a journalist club with the participation of kateryna nekrecha and oleksiy mustafin, stay with us, it will be interesting.

macron, scholz and tusk met to discuss support for ukraine. this meeting took place just after another statement by the french president about the possibility of sending his troops to ukraine. can we talk about the emergence of a new pro-ukrainian triangle in europe? let's figure it out together in today's edition of bbc ukraine. i am olga polamaryuk. emmanuel macron again spoke about sending french troops to ukraine. on the eve of the dinner, the french president gave a long interview, where he talked a lot about the war, about russia and about supporting ukraine. well, first of all, macron said that russia cannot and should not win the war, and in order for this not

to happen, europe must support ukraine and whatnot.