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klympushtynzady, people's deputy of ukraine and head of the committee on the integration of ukraine into the eu joins our conversation. ms. ivanna, thank you for being with us. we welcome you to our air. thank you for the invitation. good morning. let's start with this meeting of the weimar triangle yesterday. scholz received macron and tusk. they said that they would go again, that there would be another such meeting, but in... as a result of yesterday's conversation scholz was the first to say more weapons, long-range weapons for ukraine, of course we would like taurus to be included under that word long-range weapons, it is not excluded, but at the moment it is not discussed, what could have influenced him so much, what macron, tusk, that the rhetoric has become even brighter like this, well, i think that...

such joint efforts from all sides, they are now going to, well, somewhere, if you like, mutually encourage each other to that leadership and to that need to further help ukraine , just on the background, well, as for me, on the background, restrained, let's say so, i'll put it mildly, the reactions from the united states today, it seems to me that also... visits, visits of polish representatives to the united states of america , interaction with the states, at the moment, it just somewhere stimulates what that europe needs to take, europe needs to take on a more serious role in military assistance to ukraine, it seems to me that this is precisely the main reason for the additional change in rhetoric and this interaction. and efforts

to find a common platform and common ground vision, despite the fact that we usually heard a large number of these, well, if you like, mutual jabs from the side between. germany and france in recent months, in the context of the approach to support ukraine. but they announced another such meeting, that is, they did not agree on something or did not agree on something, what exactly? well, it's hard for me to say what exactly they didn't agree or didn't agree on, but maybe you have some assumptions or information, we understand that it wasn't voiced, and it wasn't voiced, but it seems to me that... it's about efforts not only that, well agree that what was there, let's say, voiced, and what was it on the surface, and because it seems to me that it is about more than purely military even

aid, it seems to me that it is also about the future, the future vision of the same, expansion of the european union, a certain, a certain list of problems that... that we are facing today, including on the border with poland, because of the blocking of our borders, so i think the conversation was much broader than what we just heard at the press conference. ms. ivanna, you and you have your own knowledge and experience with your husband, you probably argued with mr. general more than once, and that's what you two came to the conclusion, our colleague. will brigadier general kyrylo yushchenko come with his guys or not? i am talking about the french legion, which is led by brigadier general kyrylo yushchenko. what does your husband say, what do you say? well, let's leave out the family details of this discussion, but

in fact, this whole discussion is about what might happen in ukraine, troops might be sent to ukraine from the outside. member countries of the north atlantic alliance, the so-called coalition of the willing, yes, the coalition of those who ready or determined, and i think it is important that this discussion has come out, and it is important that it is happening at all, you and i have already seen many times during this time from the fact that countries that say never, never, never , we will not give any... any weapons there, we will never never give this kind of weapons, long-range weapons, either we will not give airplanes, or we will not give tanks, or we will not give something else, as a result, all these decisions are adopted and become history already, and so it's quite likely that if uh, if this war continues,

if we do not have enough of ourselves, our internal strength and the weapons that are given to us. and for sure, what could be , is it the french legion, or could it be just a part of the armed forces of one or another country, which as a result may take part in the war on our territory in order to protect itself, and not only ukraine . mrs. ivano, please tell me, in your opinion, to what extent alcoholic trips affect my mood. well, that is, we remember that ukraine was invented by lenin there and russian belgium was also molded with their own hands, as rurikovich said, the russian, and now dmitry medvedev says that latvia does not have such a country, and

we will kill the president, so how are these statements , all the statements that go affect not the mood, but one determination on weapons and on... troops in favor of the armed forces of ukraine, right? and you know, it seems to me that very few people pay attention to medvedev's statement at all, and more pay attention to what the kremlin leader putin is already saying, and it is his particular statements, they they force, again, to additional action, but what... what medvedev says, of course, it reminds, now he has the same role as zherinovsky once had, i think that he just took it upon himself in the russian politics, and well, somewhere it tries to show and demonstrate what is desirable as reality,

and somewhere, of course, unfortunately, it demonstrates what is actually the prevailing trend in the russian federation, this should be a... subject to a certain analysis by our partners and should stimulate them to change their position, but it seems to me that they still ... finally begin to act not only on the basis of those words that sound, but on the basis of the analysis of those actions that they see every day on the part of the russian federation , such an alcoholic-psychotropic cringe comes out, but the story you describe looks just like you wrote about the fact that no one is dealing with the verkhovna rada anymore, about the fact that there are fewer deputies, after all, this body was not created just like that, a few days ago. a post on the page about how it was agreed at the beginning of winter,

it seems that an agreement was signed with slovenia, yes, government assistance, they started, the process has already started, that is, the money came, they started to use it, that is, all the mechanisms started, but one thing was left out, if and how you came out with all this, on december 4 of last year. the government has indeed signed an agreement with slovenia to receive aid from slovenia in the amount of 1.5 million euros for our urgent need, and we understand this urgent need for demining, and already in january the government made a decision there through the commission , how to distribute this money and began to use it directly, but here it is on march 4 they mentioned the fact that in fact... the agreement needs to be ratified in order for it to be valid and was submitted

for ratification to the parliament of ukraine on march 4, retroactively, and in fact, having already used the money without having any reason for it, not having any grounds at all to use them, until the verkhovna rada ratified, accordingly, this document did not become part of... our legislation did not become part of the conditions under which they can use this money, the government simply, well , completely disregarded the role verkhovna rada of ukraine, clearly expecting that the verkhovna rada is an extra person who will do whatever the government wants, and there were no explanations from the government officials why they did not urgently submit it for ratification, in fact it could have been done at the end of december. the verkhovna rada would consider it, but our committee there received

this document for ratification, on march 4th it went to the verkhovna rada, there it was sent to our committee on march 6th, and on the 11th we already considered it at the committee, that is, there was no delay at all there is no way to process these documents, but the government today simply disdains the law, disdains the rules. and there is no one who would be ready to take responsibility for such violations, and these are blatant things, i have come across this for the first time, there is no interstate agreement ratified by the verkhovna rada, but such actions are taking place, but this is slovenia, and the money has been divided and no one will , no one will be responsible, if not responsible, if they divided them incorrectly, if, for example, well, i don't know, maybe the verkhovna rada can have some other vision there. yes, and not in this form, we would like to ratify it and so on, but this is simply a complete, complete lack

of understanding of internal state mechanisms and leaving such a truly ceremonial role for the verkhovna rada. yes, mrs. ivano, but you mentioned this country, it is slovenia, one of those exemplary countries of the european union, where the russians at one time seriously wanted to play in domestic and foreign politics and where. we sent as an ambassador the minister of disarmament of ukraine, otherwise he cannot be named, we would wanted to hear, mr. terana, but we would like to hear the conclusions from the sbu and the prosecutor general's office, and he was hidden by the minister, i have friends in slovenia, he is the worst ambassador, i am so gently now relaying their words, no contacts, and says , we can't even work with him normally, what to do with it, well... this, you know, is not an isolated case when we see that people who really should be

responsible for their own activities or inactions in to ukraine, they are awarded in this way, i don't know, if you want, such honorable pensions in that, in those countries, and in general, in principle, in the diplomatic circle, in diplomatic, in diplomatic positions, where we today... it is simply necessary to have a strengthened settled presence, you know, literally yesterday i analyzed what we have there are a large number of such dignified, serious, powerful diplomats who are currently... currently not involved in the work of the state, and the state does not try to involve them only because today foreign policy is directly handled by bankova, directly by yermak, and obviously , what he is not interested in strong and powerful real lobbyists of ukraine, lobbyists, well, in

the sense of lawyers, and in the strong sense. representatives of ukraine in all directions , and it is very painful to watch this, we are losing a large part of the potential help that we could receive or interactions with various countries, and slovenia is, unfortunately, only one of these examples . ms. ivana, thank you for participating in our morning program ivanna klympush tsensadze, people's deputy, head of the committee on ukraine's integration into europe. and that's it these are our pies. well, now a short break, you will donate during that time, then we will return, we will talk about crimea and this whole farce with pseudo-elections that is happening there, stay with espresso. bleeding and inflamed gums - my

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i will simply remind you of the events of that year, and we will talk more about this with agasmander bariyev, the head of the crimean tatar resource center and a member of the mejlis of the crimean tatar people, mr. iskender, welcome to our airwaves, good morning, glory glory to ukraine, the hero. you probably remember those events, and 10 years ago there was a referendum, a pseudo-referendum, now pseudo -elections are also being held in crimea, in particular in the temporarily occupied crimea, do the methods, style, order remain the same, or somehow they changed tactics? well, first of all, i want to say that, really, how they captured crimea, they tried to do everything to demonstrate to the international community. that everything they do is legal, and that is why exactly 10 years ago they tried to hold

a referendum, a so-called referendum, i will say this, because it is not a legal plebiscite in order to demonstrate that the allegedly non-existent crimean people, it is the will to reveal the non-existent of the crimean people and... this is exactly where they really, when they captured, they originally planned to spend referendum in may, then they postponed it to april, then they postponed it to the end of the massacre, and then they started talking about the fact that they would hold it on the 16th, why did they keep changing these dates like that, because they really understood that ... the situation is changing, because at the beginning of the occupation, people really did not all understand what was going on and how it could be, and in order

to establish this process as quickly as possible , it was not illegal, they had to demonstrate that it was here are the people, what people will support the russian federation, that is, as they also said that they would take kyiv there in two or three days and everything would be resolved there as quickly as possible, so here i am as a member of the interlist at that time, we very, very systematically met, talked about all this, and we from the very beginning they began to say that it is impossible to allow the indigenous crimean tatar people to participate in these elections, in this referendum, so that we should appeal to representatives of other nationalities, we had to convince the people. that this is an illegal process and we just started working with people and on march 15, i.e. yesterday, we made

such a statement before addressing the verkhovna rada of ukraine and the entire ukrainian people, to which we clearly indicated that this referendum is an illegal event, that the crimean...tatar people recognize and support the sovereignty of ukraine and the integrity of ukraine in these borders, which are recognized by the international society, that no one has the right to carry out any kind of declaration of war, declaration of will in the crimea without the declaration of war of the indigenous crimean tatar people, and that's exactly what the address of march 20 in in ukraine, there was a resolution of the verkhovna rada of ukraine about the statement about. guarantees and

protection of the righteous crimean tatar people and representatives of other nationalities, i am proud that i was the initiator of that appeal and ah and developed the draft of that appeal, i believe that it was a historical event of such importance, because it was precisely crimea that crossed the border of the crimean tatar people one of the first to provide such support for ukrainian. the statehood of ukrainian sovereignty, well, and the next one, we just applied and are constantly trying to work so that our compatriots do not participate in all those pseudo-elections that were held on the territory of crimea, we constantly said that these were all illegal processes, and i want to remind you that the first elections were already held on september 14 after the so-called referendum.

in the local council, and right here we made leaflets there, conducted them, distributed them among the population, and indeed they made the first reaction to all this, which was held at my place on september 16, mr. iskander, we have little time until the next issue news, i'm just very an important moment, i wanted you to communicate, it's been 10 years already... during that time, a lot has happened, firstly , there is an ethnocide on the territory of crimea, secondly, repressions, and i am talking about certain forces, do you remember the crimean bandits, the crimean salem gang, in which there was a goblin, aka aksyonov, who has now sworn in and leads that type of

occupied crimea. where have all these handsome cossacks, russian fascist parties, all these ba gangs, axion goblins and all the rest gone, they are all rooted now in the russian occupation system in crimea, or have left somewhere, and isn’t it time to start the special services of ukraine together with kyremla safari on these fascist scoundrels? well , there is information collected about all of them. and really you should clearly emphasize the fact that all these representatives of the belgian structures, they are seilen, they are shoes , they all implemented themselves, just like they integrated into that russian occupation local authority, and they continue to rule crimea and try to control and seize crimean property, and therefore i... think, i think,

i am sure that these criminals who were not punished during the ukrainian times in crimea, they will definitely be punished after , i am ready to share it with us, khrystyna, you have the word, congratulations, colleagues, thank you, european special services have confirmed for the first time that russia is moving nuclear weapons, where exactly i will tell you in the release, as well as about the explosions in russia, already don't miss it in a moment. khrystyna porubiy works in the espresso news studio. one injured due to enemy shelling of donetsk region. the occupiers hit 11 settlements . 10 residential buildings,

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