what exactly did olaf scholz say after the meeting with macron and tusk at the meeting held in berlin. let's listen. it is clear that we support ukraine, and it is also clear that we ourselves are not at war with russia. our common goal is to ensure effective protection of ukraine against russian aggression. we will use surplus profits from russian assets that are...frozen in europe to finance the purchase of weapons for ukraine. a crystal-clear signal is received in moscow. the russian president should know that our support for ukraine will not stop. well, i wish it would scholz spoke not only about the frozen assets, but also that the frozen assets could be used for the purchase of long-range taurus missiles, which should come to ukraine. that is why, in your opinion, mr. valentine, scholz, despite all the rhetoric. enough of such an aggressive

, i would say, or macron's leadership rhetoric, that still, well, every time they make excuses that they cannot give us these taurus missiles, there was a vote in budnystaz yesterday, they failed this vote, the germans say that we we can't do that because it would mean that well, it seems that we will be involved in shelling, including the territory of crimea, which is legally part of ukraine. but which is under the russian federation, why are the germans so afraid , is it the consequences of what happened in the second world war, or do they have some other reservations, well , let's start with the main thing, crimea was and will be ukrainian, then there is no doubt, and it is not only here in ukraine, but also in the un, in all resolutions of the general assembly, to the main point, well, let's give a little time to mr. scholz, mr. chancellor of germany, because today to come out with such a statement... well, believe

me, this is really a huge step, and i think that the french president has just shown leadership and convinced, and most importantly, convinced his partners, the key economies of the european union, to go for the confiscation of profits and send them to whom, for a reason direct , right away it was crystal clear, it was clearly announced by the chancellor of germany that they are going to purchase weapons for the armed forces of ukraine, this is the most important thing, now about missiles, his... create as a person who conducted and continues to conduct direct negotiations with the german partners, we will solve the issue in the near future, only one thing, i already spoke about it, i can repeat it, it will not be sent directly to ukraine, but through one of the third countries of our key partners, but the issue of long-range, concrete-piercing, high-precision missiles, whatever they are called had, but including german production, too, i think, will be decided in the near future. and here the most important thing is that we have

to understand that the rocket or rockets in themselves are just the first step, the most important thing is to get guidance systems and specialists teach who can use them, and most importantly, from where to launch these additional serious high-precision missiles, i will not reveal all the military secrets to you, but it is just so that you understand the complex of issues that are resolved at such negotiations, the only thing i can say that... these issues are being resolved positively, and give it a little time, i think there will be more news and more specifics. on the night of march 15, ukrainian drones hit an oil refinery in the kaluga region of the russian federation, and drone attacks over the past few days led to the shutdown of three oil refineries deep in the territory of russia, which make up about 12% of the oil refining capacity of the russian federation. at least

that's how bloomberg calculates. gasoline prices in russia reached a six-month high amid drone strikes on refineries. can we say, mr. valentin, that russia is gradually turning from a country of gas stations into a country of beggars, and it is on this way, because oil and what comes from oil, that is , all products, you were the nucleus at the expense of which... and russia was building its own army and invested millions and billions in the defense complex? you are absolutely right, and it was the oil and gas dollars that financed the war against us and are financing it now, just as they are financing the punitive special services inside the country, and in fact the entire putin regime, they stand on nothing else and do not share with anyone and their own citizens , absolutely, it's full, you know, like a desert. and

begging, if we leave, especially from moscow and or st. petersburg, but let's return to the oil and gas complex, well, let 's start with the fact that, for example, the company lukoil's management is generally like a slob. has changed, there is already a tenth top manager being liquidated under the guise of hanging or poisoning and so on and so forth, such processes are going on, why is this happening, why are they liquidating top managers or people who have serious profits in their oil and gas companies , in oil or gas, and the answer is very simple, because the organization of contraband trade in oil... through contraband , the so-called tanker fleet has concentrated huge billions of dollars, but where in the hands smugglers, where in the hands of the very people who are now hanging each other, destroying each other and so on, and all this is happening inside russia, for which i give this as an example, because

in fact even these profits from such , you know, black oil trade throughout of the world, through dummy or other tankers, is actually not in russia's budget. gave money, in crime and in criminal showdowns. now about the oil refineries and the fact that they are burning and hitting them, well, this is happening on the territory of the russian federation, this their oil refining potential is being destroyed, but two things are most important here, serhiy. the first is that the aggressor's troops will no longer receive as much fuel, because we, all those who did not leave, i did not leave. never from ukraine during the war from kyiv and from the kyiv region, we saw when the occupier temporarily entered chernihiv, they were the first to pull what, correctly, artificial gasoline pipelines, because without it no equipment, no army, and especially the russian one, can move, so that russian tanks are

soviet tanks, and they spend tons fuel to overcome 100-200 km, and imagine if it is more, in a word, without fuel, without such power supply , the russian army cannot move, it cannot and will not be able to fight, so this is the first serious reason, why it is good that the oil refining complex is being destroyed, but there is also a second serious circumstance: there is no more technology, equipment and machinery in the russian federation and there will be no more to replace those capacities or that equipment that is being destroyed and burning day and night. here are two things to really pay attention to. attention, i think that and bloomberg and other economic publications of the world will pay more attention to the fact that russia has nothing to replace, there is no way to repair those facilities that have burned or will still burn. mr. valettin, during the last week two important statements were made

regarding russian agents in ukraine. the first operation is the special operation perun, about which the main intelligence agency warns, however. that russian agents will be activated for russian information and psychological special operations, and the statement of one of the leaders of belinket, hristo groziv, that there is a network agents of the russian federation in ukraine, among politicians and public figures, that they took money from the russian federation, and khresto grozev's investigation about these agents will soon be released. what can you say about this network, which obviously exists, or let's say , it is a dormant network, that is, hidden, and sooner or later it will become active, and how can you quickly find and protect yourself from these russian agents, it is meant representatives of the ukrainian state? it is possible and

necessary, especially now during the war state, so that intelligence information is at the disposal of counter-intelligence, that is, the sbu, and for this it is necessary that the sbu immediately ... right here and now begin to eliminate, detain, identify, and so on, any enemy agency, and i know that the forces of the means assets, as well as specialists of the security service of ukraine. i simply urge everyone who has or becomes aware of such information or suspicions to report to our counter-intelligence agents, they will handle it, i have no doubts about it, the more i repeat myself during martial law, especially since i myself from 14 of the year with international partners did a lot to ensure that modern equipment, modern technologies, cyber equipment appeared, and most importantly, young patriotic officers were trained and they are trained to effectively intercept and neutralize any network, any agent agency, whether it is an operative agent agency , whether subversive. second, about

the bellingket investigators, i am not stopping my work and cooperation with international investigators, next week i will have serious work with documentaries, just from bellingket. other international organizations that helped then, and now in gaza, the trial of those who committed a terrorist act against the malaysian boeing in ukrainian skies has already taken place. in july 2013, i am the one who says that i know these people well and what they do, that is why the statements of one of the investigators, mr. groziv, i think that the british and american partners already know who mr. groziv, and i only hope that in the near future through such partnership relations with the cia, and with mi5 and mi-6, the security service of ukraine and other special services of ukraine receive information. and will be able to check it without reacting. well, the very end

of our conversation, the law on mobilization, between the second and, between the first and second reading, for some reason there was a big pause, 400 amendments, in this question, the question of the law on mobilization, more political or military component? there is no political will in this matter, and we saw this on... precisely march 14 , when it was yesterday, when we all came to the verkhovna rada, i mean the opposition, the batkivshchyna faction, everyone voted 100%, especially for the decision and resolution of the verkhovna rada councils that we will never recognize fake elections in the temporarily occupied territories, after that the representatives of the mono majority left, well, after the alarm, so what, we returned to our workplaces after the alarm , they left, that's all, that's why i say ... absolutely responsibly from within the parliament there is no political will and political

presence of the monomajority, i think that they need to figure this out, and then everything will fall into place, well, the first thing for them is probably volodymyr zelenskyi as the leader of this monomajority and in general, i wouldn’t say that, you know, it’s not a kindergarten, that they constantly have to, you know, point to a portrait or to the president, well, they’re people’s deputies, well... for the president, he’s the commander-in-chief, he has his own job , as we see, every day and every night, people's deputies, this is my conviction, should also work 24/7, and their place should be returned to them, i don't know where they all really are, have they all gone and on what business trips, but time to go back and work. thank you, mr. valentin, for the conversation, it was valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine. friends, we are working live on the tv channel. also on youtube and on facebook, if you watch us on youtube , take part in the vote, today

we ask you about whether the west will dare to send its troops to ukraine, yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, if you have a separate opinion, your opinion, leave it in the comments under this video, if you are watching us on tv, turn on your smartphone and vote if you think the west will dare to send its troops to ukraine 0.800 211 300. 81 no 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free, vote. next , we have yevhen magda, executive director of the institute of world politics. mr. yevgeny, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. congratulations, glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. well, since we're asking our viewers and tv viewers what they think about whether the west will dare to send its troops to ukraine, i'll ask you about that too. i proceed from the logic that people thinking about their

upcoming elections will not make such a decision, which means that germany and france, germany and poland, i.e. olaf scholz and donald tusk, well, i am talking about the participants of today's meeting of the weimar triangle first of all, they are most likely to do it. will not go then, as emmanuel macron , who is in his second presidential term, and has a certain space to react to this, mr. yevgeny, macron actually started this big discussion, whether these troops will be foreign on the territory of ukraine or not, he spoke with hints, some there, in conversations with the leaders of political... france, and in an interview with tf-1 and france2, he stated that the war in ukraine is

existential for europe and for france, but excluded the possibility that french troops would attack russia. let's hear what macron said. we will never be on the offensive, we will never take the initiative. france is a force for peace, but today, in order to have peace in ukraine, we must not be weak. therefore, we must soberly look at the situation and say with determination, will and courage that we are ready to invest resources to achieve our goal, which is that russia ... does not win, well, that is, macron said that the offensive russia will not be led by france, but i understand that he does not rule out the transfer of separate forces of the french army to ukraine, information appeared earlier, in the event that the russians will advance on kyiv or odessa, after all, what is on macron's

mind, on his tongue, what do we hear about what he says, and what does he think? i believe that emmanuel macron has started a game, a political game for informal leadership in europe, a position similar to what angela merkel once held during her chancellorship, but angela merkel's position was primarily based on the economic power of germany and... this must be understood, and the position of emmanuel macron in this situation, in the conditions when a large-scale russian invasion has been going on for almost 750 days, it is a military-political one, it is logical, because the russian-ukrainian war is the biggest war in the modern world, and it creates a certain background, and accordingly, macron acts in

the way that he currently organizes. provision, so i think that this debate, it is fueled by historical experience, because the french are a little more than 100 years that is why they have already landed in odessa, the presence of a foreign legion in the french armed forces, and the fact that, as i said, emmanuel macron is staying. to the footage, mr. yevgeny, the connection is very bad , sorry, we will redial you now, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel and on our platforms in youtube and facebook, we continue voting, we ask you what you think about whether

the west will dare to send its troops to ukraine, yes, no, uh, if you are on youtube, everything is quite simple, if you are sitting in front of on tv, pick up your phone or smartphone and vote if you think the west will dare to send troops to ukraine, 0800 211 381, no, 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, and at the end of the program we will sum up this vote, we are waiting for the inclusion of evgeny magda, who is somewhat unstable. connection, unfortunately, with our guest today, evgeny mada already mentioned that today macron, scholz and tusk met in berlin, and this is the so-called weimar triangle, france, germany and poland agreed that the revenues received from russian assets in the european union will be used to purchase weapons for

ukraine, olaf scholz told a joint press conference. with french president emmanuel macron and polish prime minister donald tusk, he says that today the leaders of the three countries have agreed that they will buy weapons for ukraine on the global market, and we will develop cooperation in the production of weapons, thanks to our cooperation with partners in to ukraine, says macron, within the framework of the coalition. ramstein was told by the leaders of weimar, the weimar triangle, they are going to create a coalition for the purchase of missiles and long-range artillery, and all revenues from frozen russian assets will be used to purchase weapons in ukraine. we

already have yevhen magda in contact. mr. yevgeny, we are not done with ourselves. macron, let's continue, regarding macron's position and why he articulates why he is so active now in european politics? i think that, among other things, macron, not only because it is the second presidential term, not only because there is historical experience, but also because the united states lost a certain leadership in matters of support for ukraine, due to the crisis that currently exists in relations between democrats and republicans, and which it is unlikely to be fast, well, i would say decided, because... that the presidential campaign is only gaining momentum, therefore, accordingly, emmanuel macron has become an active foreign policy player, because this is

a way through actions on the international arena to receive his own and political dividends in that number of we have already mentioned today's meeting of the weimar triangle of scholz, macron and tusk, and what do you say, mr. yevgeny, about this idea that the frozen assets will be used to purchase weapons for ukraine, why is there no worldwide support for this use of these frozen assets, because we are talking somewhere around the world about the amount of 300 billion dollars, and maybe more. there are several reasons: first, there was no legal act that would record the defeat of russia in this war, i.e. there was no analogue of nuremberg or tokyo

trial, respectively, of german , japanese war criminals, then after it, after the second world war, everything was quite clear, as well as a number of treaties after the first world war, here i think that the western establishment still ... still thinks, no excludes for itself, and i would not begin to condemn so intensely, now i will explain why, does not exclude for itself some kind of return of russia to international, let's say, communication, more intensive, more civilized, there is also a superficial interest, russia directly says, that once you start use... our assets, we will take yours, and this will mean, well, let's say, if for individual states, i will, i think, it will also mean a political crisis, because

russian propaganda will actively promote this in these countries, well conditionally, some financial organization that works on the territory of russia, and russia takes it, takes all its assets. then i think that at the same time she will spread the information in the country where the mother office of this organization is located that we are taking everything from you, that everything is bad for you, and in general, well, it is not clear who you are here, i.e. russia skillfully plays on these things, we must understand this, and therefore the world is looking for an acceptable way. that is, on the one hand , they want to help ukraine, and this, this aspiration is sincere enough, because the factor of empathy in helping ukraine should not be excluded, it is really

present, but at the same time, we must realize that the west is trying to protect its own interests, and in there is nothing unnatural about it, in my opinion. mr. yevgeny, over the past few days we have been watching the unfolding of hostilities on the territory of the russian federation. the so-called russian volunteers, or former prisoners there, are russian volunteers of the rdc, freedom of russia, the siberian battalion, all this is happening on the eve of the presidential, so-called presidential elections, pseudo-elections, why, in your opinion, did putin play these elections in general, since there is already a complete autocracy, that is , there is no other candidate, it is clear that this is just an automatic prolongation of putin's powers and will not be the last election for putin from the point of view of any game of democracy at all, when he will simply become the tsar of russia or i don't

know, he will gain some status there and will live until either he is killed or until he dies his own death. i think that putin's re-election process should prove to the russians. that everything is fine with them, that they are really not waging a war, but a special military operation, and that is why putin's reaction to the actions of russian volunteers in the belgorod and kursk regions is quite indicative, he reacts to them, well, he tells that there are huge victims and and so on, but let's say that ukraine has not achieved success, it acts, of course, in an understandable way, sufficiently. context, but at the same time one must realize that putin, for example, does not comment on attacks on russian oil

refineries. ban on the export of gasoline, it is true , but he is forced to comment on the attacks of russian volunteers, because they have too much resonance, that is, it affects those people who live in the border zone, and their evacuation or flight there also causes a certain public interest, these actions of russian volunteers, they definitely make sense for the reason that they allow disunity... putin's regime. we must be aware that putin's regime has taken root in russia for a long time, and it will be extremely difficult to remove it quickly, but simply, you know, like erasing with an eraser, some pencil sketch on paper. what is called putin's election can already be said today, i think, with a high degree of probability that he

will win more than. 75%, i honestly assumed that, at first, that even more than 90, but now i will make a more conservative prediction with your permission, more than 85, that is it will definitely be the highest result in the entire history of putin's participation in the elections, and he will receive a mandate of trust and a mandate of the imaginary unity of russian citizens around the military leader. and so i suggest quite obviously that because of this mandate, because of the fact that the russians are showing their own desire to be with putin, russia can attack one of the nato countries, attack with conventional weapons, but with their hand on the nuclear button, and talking about what or worth, well, as you know,

the day before... the world talked about whether it is worth dying for dantsech, and now they will put the question is whether it is worth dying for tallinn, whether it is worth dying there for lublin, and i do not rule out, by the way, that this attack can take place through the territory of belarus and with the support of belarusian troops, i am very skeptical about the possible participation of belarusian troops in hostilities against of ukraine, but against nato. it may be, that is, there russian propaganda in this direction and belarusian propaganda work in a sufficiently coordinated manner, this is quite a likely option at the moment, and the western world, which is watching this, as i know, for example, what was also considered at the munich security conference as a probable scenario of russia's invasion, should act more actively, and should draw conclusions from historical mistakes,

primarily their own and their previous ones. remember the year 2008, georgia, i am not underestimating the fact that the position of the ukrainian authorities was the same, both yours and ours, that is, if it were not for viktor yushchenko, his visas to tbilisi, then we would have covered ourselves with shame as a country, because the verkhovna rada did not managed to condemn russia's aggression, i think you remember it, and accordingly, if so happened, then now... after the large-scale aggression of russia, it would be much more difficult for us to seek the support of the civilized world, but this happened more than 15 years ago, we will not go back to it in too much detail now, we will talk about the fact that such an escalation by to russia, it must receive a consolidated response from the civilized world, and the more

actively consultations within nato and the european union take place now, the more actively it will demonstrate its capacity for internal transformations ukraine, it is the capacity for internal transformation, not emotional diplomacy, the more chances we have that we will be able to fight back collectively, we will be able to stop, because as far as i understand, as far as i see sociological research, i would... said mildly that to the west of ukraine the willingness to fight against russia is radically lower than in ukraine, it is true, and if before a large-scale invasion of ukraine more than 90% of western experts and analysts said that ukraine would collapse, then i don't even know what there will be predictions if russia starts playing muscles and really implements.