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stronger together. the last one is today, the reassignment of the pharaoh of russia as pharaoh for life, this is what they call elections. accordingly, in our occupied territories, this is a census of the population, which will be mobilized from the 25th by decree of the minister of defense in order to fight against themselves, that is, against the ukrainians, that is, on the russian territories themselves there are already queues in... in four cities are being built, because yulia navalny came up with this terrible action: come at 12 o'clock, stand and leave. well, this has already been equated to, let's say, a criminal offense, this is the decision of the russian prosecutor's office, but the queues are still gathering. 12 o'clock has not yet come, in some regions it has come, let's see what will happen, but in general the elections look like this, just look at how the elections look like in, for example, i don't know, maybe. these are

occupied ukrainian territories, so far it is difficult to see the geotag from this video, but during, during the voting, the uncle with a mask on faces, together with the machine, goes straight to the voter, looks where he put a tick there, so accordingly after that he goes, he checks whether everything is safe, whether the people are safe, and here he is also checking whether he has safely ticked next to putin put, this is how it all looks, now we will talk about it, only about it with the former deputy minister for temporarily occupied territories and internally displaced persons of ukraine, we are in touch with george tuka, mr. george, congratulations, glory to ukraine, congratulations , congratulations, studio, glory to the heroes, well, we have been throwing up our hands for two days, we tried to ask our friends from zaporizhzhia what can be done, part of the male population in the occupied territories, somehow either guessed, or read somewhere, or through... vpn found out that the actual

voting now at gunpoint in the occupied territory, this is an update of their data, registration, surname, and in a week they will simply be deported. to the front to fight against their own people, do you at least see any options for these people, maybe they will hear us now, maybe there are do they have any options not to rush into the cold dnipro and try to swim across under shelling, how to avoid mobilization if it is not a collaborator? well, i will say right away that i warned about such a scenario even when the orks were rapidly advancing through the south and east of our ukraine, two years ago, because it was... absolutely clear to me that they would implement the same scenario in the conquered territories, which they implemented in the previously occupied part of the donetsk and luhansk regions, and let's say, what they call a draft to the occupation forces

troops, this is not some kind of news , some kind of know-how, they were engaged in this from the very beginning , well, so intensified, starting from the 17th year, and on... on youtube even then he worked on the territory of russia, on telegram, full of videos from donetsk, from luhansk, as in those years, these representatives of the so-called people's militias caught men even in trolleybuses, in buses, in shops, and unfortunately, now the same scenario will happen again and again for... them territories, so for me personally there is nothing strange. i am well aware that the vast majority of ours citizens ended up in the occupation not at all out of good will, and, unfortunately, the treachery of the russians, it did not contribute to the fact that we were able

to react in a timely manner and protect our lands and our citizens, but i warned many times, especially the men. that you look for any ways, leave the occupied territories, throw your chickens, cows, pigs, your farm there, because all this will end with the fact that you will simply be forced to go to war against your own army, against your own people. unfortunately, this is exactly what is happening now. again, when addressing men who find themselves in such a rather difficult situation, one should look for the least. the opportunity to leave the occupied territories, in any way, but if it already happened, it was fate that you could not avoid it and you were eventually called up, either to these so-called people's militias, or to the armed forces

of the russian federation , i advise you to look for any way to immediately, simply at the first opportunity, surrender to the armed forces of ukraine, only this can save your life. ugh. mr. george, to from this moment, until the moment of potential , but actually very realistic mobilization there by the russians, are there even now such optimistic and real chances for men and for women too, to leave there, because well, we understand that this is an expensive business, because not just yes, and you need to have some documents. to leave either through the territory of russia or through russia through other countries, but how do you evaluate such opportunities, or do you have any advice for those who may hear you from these territories now? to leave the occupied territories every day

it's more complicated, we've seen videos, like these , i don't know what to call them, well, conventionally , the russian security forces, they even... block the possibility of leaving the territories of the kursk and belgorod regions, the residents of these territories after the start of the raid, which is carried out by their compatriots in the territories these regions, and the roshvardiya, together with the police, blocked the possibility for citizens living in these two regions of the russian federation to leave the borders of these regions, so... it is probably even more difficult to leave the occupied territories now, but with that, i understand that the situation is quite complicated, but it is primarily about life, and now it is not about sentiments, not about preserving

some of your property, you just need to be clearly aware that not today, so tomorrow, not tomorrow, so the day after tomorrow , you may find yourself at a dead end, so... it hasn't come to that yet, you still have a few more days, maybe a week or two, and i simply advise you to go at the first opportunity, at least on foot. float, cross any opportunities, there are borders or roadblocks that are exhibited, and to enter, well, i understand that it is unlikely that you will be able to enter the territory of ukraine directly , but through the territory of russia, then try to get through third countries, either to europe, receiving asylum, or returning to the territory of ukraine, which is controlled by the central government, but under any under the circumstances , i advise you to leave... the occupied territories, especially men. ugh. if you, our tv viewers, are relatives, i have to

now turn to those who are in the territory of the country controlled by kyiv. if in if you have relatives who were scattered in the temporarily occupied territories, we understand that many families are now divided by the front line itself, then you can try, at least suggest, contact your family, let them know what mr. georgy s... just said, that time is really short, a week or two at the most, so it should be done very quickly, i also wanted to ask you, mr. georia, about things called coercion as a measure, because more and more we are told that there are some chinese or some turkish formulas, stop, well, in one word, make some kind of... a cease-fire, it is not even a peace agreement, and in fact, for the first time in

the information space of ukraine, political scientist fesenko started talking about such an immediate thing, we listened to him, that is, i don't know, maybe he voiced someone's opinion of someone's whim , but it became public, that is, whether they are preparing us, or whether it was measuring the temperature in the ward before actually surrendering on the lines of occupation, which... already exist now, well , first of all , as for the figure of fsenka, then with from my point of view, and she was born not yesterday, he has not far left aristovych, so there is nothing strange in these maxims from this person for me, i agree with the assessment, really, now, well, if we take , let’s say, countries, then this first of all, china, not from... it really is erdogan with his initiatives from china, there somewhere

orbán is speaking at dance parties, and their main thesis is the following: both sides have reached such a level of confrontation that does not allow either of them to win, but therefore, it is necessary to simply achieve a cease-fire, a cessation killing people, termination. construction of housing, infrastructure facilities there, and only after that start talking. well, from my point of view, everyone should be aware of two simple, absolutely simple things: first, do we ukrainians have any reason to trust russia in any way? from my point of view, we have already been taught by our own bitter experience to trust this neighboring state. for us, this is just like death, this is the first, second, can we

agree to a ceasefire with further attempts to solve the issue of deoccupation of the occupied territories in a peaceful way through diplomatic negotiations. i want to assure our citizens that there is no positive experience of such scenarios in the modern world, if from... the aggressor has already seized a part of the territory of another state and even stopped under certain circumstances with the participation of some mediators, the firing stopped, then everything ends there, not about which do not involve de-occupation, and there are a huge number of such examples, if you mention turkey, you can simultaneously recall what happened in cyprus, for example, from the same side. of turkey, so this scenario, it is really proposed, it is really

raised from time to time, about this scenario, unfortunately , i see that in the ukrainian environment, i do not want to call this environment expert, because it primarily includes such figures as aristovych, call aristovych an expert, it 's just disrespecting yourself, and now... fisenko's weather vane joined in, so it's nothing surprising, now this wave, it will rise and build up, ugh, will it be successful among the so -called ukrainian designers. that is, zelensky's closest circle, his so-called effective five or six managers, i can ignore that yes, i don't think that fesenko , for example, started talking about this scenario exclusively from his own point of view, this is an uncharacteristic position for this person, he is always in power , so i can to assume that this is really

such a test layer that is now being launched by certain political... circles, to which , unfortunately, some of zelensky's political technologists are involved in this scenario. mr. georgy, we have very little time, and we still have one question for you, we will ask you accordingly short answer the story happened in melitopol, where a man took a photo against the background of the inscription "death to putin", he was accused of calling for terrorism, criminal proceedings were already opened there, and there are many such stories in the temporarily occupied territories. do we already have a script on how to...then rehabilitate and liberate all these people, or do we somehow form lists, how is ukraine reacting now? i will not reveal a big secret again when i say that the most difficult thing in general is in relationships today, but people who are engaged in the exchange of prisoners or the release prisoners, in particular, there are also obtusmen on both

sides, and on the ukrainian side, representatives of the main intelligence department oversee this process, but... the most difficult thing is to extract ukrainian civilians from russia, because there are no registers, nor any reports, a huge number of ukrainian civilians , who in one way or another showed, well, their own negative attitude towards the actions of a neighboring state, these people simply disappear into nothingness, and we do not have any information about where they went, and russia in the vast majority ignores ukraine's requests regarding the future fate of these citizens and the possibility of their exchange. thank you, mr. george, for the conversation, for being with us. george tuka, former deputy minister for temporarily occupied territories, internally displaced persons, about the scenarios, how is it right, as one latin american communist from

the vatican said, how is it right to pick up the white cloth and surrender, right? this is what we talked about, here, and further on we will have people... and they never give up under any circumstances. one of the members of the police crew, pavlo the white angel dnyachenko in connection with our studio, we are mr. pavla. congratulations glory to ukraine. greetings from the studio. glory as a hero. mr. pavle, we, you, remember all your details, stories and everything you did for the residents, in particular, the now occupied avdiyivka. where is the main place in your service now, who is being helped now. first of all, the assistance to the local population remained unchanged, that is, the evacuation crews work in five directions, as it was, lymanskyi, bakhmutskyi, avdiivskyi direction, ocheritensk hromada, kurakhivskyi direction, and velikay novosilka direction. sir

pavle, we often hear that it is now impossible for volunteers... and for those who are trying to help, evacuate, bring something to the local population along the front line , and in some places it is actually impossible to get to the front-line settlements, where you won't get to where people have to fend for themselves somehow, at least temporarily, we hope so, well, there are probably some locations where you won't get to, well, not that there aren't any, but leave everything. from the operational situation, it is really possible not to arrive one day, the next day, because there is understanding, and each crew, together with the police leadership, is in constant contact with the armed forces of ukraine, i.e. the defense forces, and this all accumulates in general, there is an understanding of when

you can go, where you can go, that is , pavrai. oh, somehow we got together and left , no, this does not happen, because everything depends on the planning process, we really understand that until now, as part of this full-scale invasion, this full-scale invasion, such types of weapons as fpv drones that hunt transport means, that's enough also makes it difficult, well, she didn't stay away. mortars, so you need to calculate your movement in more detail and the road to this or that settlement, well, they have reconnaissance drones, we... understand everything, they, accordingly, they see that this is an evacuation, yes, they can analyze that it is people who are leaving, and they are all aiming equally, we understand correctly, yes,

of course, and there is nothing strange here, they do this all the time, and more than one crew has already come under such fire, there was an evacuation, well, that’s it quite a long time ago from new york. with of the turkish community, they saw that children were being taken out, you can't help but see it, because it was a sunny day, and every crew, when evacuating children, necessarily puts on the children, so bright, bright they are bulletproof vests, helmets, e- eh, in big, capital letters, the inscription on the bulletproof vest reads children, and this, well, there were many children or. three or four, and it is impossible not to notice, this is how it was in avdiivka, the guys came to help a woman who was injured as a result of shelling, they

hovered above with a drone, probably waiting for the guys will go out, but the woman was wounded, they helped her , they threw an explosive device under the car without waiting, that is, the car was damaged, and so what, although the car is not allowed there in any way... orient yourself to the fact that she is a military , a big red cross on it, well, here in general, and the same situation was in avdiytsia with a volunteer, a man arrived, a drone immediately hovered above him, he shows him that he is a volunteer, just shows, yes, i am a volunteer, points to car that it is ordinary the minibus, no, they threw it right under his car, the man was wounded, and then the car was completely destroyed, how many more children from... remain in that front-line zone, where it constantly flies? well, we are trying to carry

out the stages of evacuation normally at such a fast pace, four settlements of the mariyan community have now been added, the police are already actively working there, communicating with families, that is, families are even actively leaving themselves, well, who has transport, who has the opportunity. and we try to complete each stage 100%. or in those communities about which we are now talking, then we have to convince people to evacuate, to transport them, to allow them to transport children, whether there is already an understanding and they are asking themselves, and there is simply a definite queue. in almost all cases , there is already an understanding, there is already an understanding, because well, we don't just come there, tell stories, after all , it is based on real life examples, on such... those terrible examples, but unfortunately, they are there when at war , during this full-scale invasion, children died from

enemy shelling, well, it’s any kind of air strike and artillery, we had it in this is the case with the taritsa community, and when you tell it all, when you tell it all to your parents, they themselves understand. and well, we film most of the processes, that is, we publish them on our own social pages, social networks, and when we talk to parents, they say that yes, indeed, well, it seems like it would be possible to sit still, but understanding such a huge danger, they make a decision on evacuation how long do you have to wait, how long does the family wait, the person, after contacting you, asked for evacuation, and to be able to bring them out. well, we are trying to do it as soon as possible, that is, it is a matter of a few days or something? and no, no, no, no, no

, even if the appeal is in the evening, well, in order not to expose to danger, we don’t spend there at night, in exceptional cases, but immediately in the morning, that is, the groups work, and it’s not only the crews who work white angels in the complex are involved. such structures as the state service for emergency situations, er, patrol police, security police, and these are such comprehensive measures, it all takes place in close cooperation with the military administrations, because there was an understanding of the family, the children, where they would go, where they would be placed, er, and things like what they say ... they leave, they spend the night there at the stations, well, there is no such thing, but there are those who asked, or you convinced , evacuated, left here

and returned here in a few days or... a few weeks, but people exhaled, rested and thought, maybe it's not so bad and they go back, there were such cases, it's not massive, but that's all depends on, well, let's say, the operational situation in a certain settlement, so let's take a conventional village, which village, it was heavily shelled there for a week or two, people left, drove, and then they somehow come into contact with the locals there, who stayed, and they are told that it has been a week or two, but everything is normal, everything is calm, but the light seems to have been turned on there, then there are cases when they return there, and this does not apply to families with children there, it also happens to adults, well it seems that it has become quieter there, and it is possible to return, but still, well, no one can guarantee that it will be quiet, there will be

enemy fire, or there will be none. and then people put themselves in danger and have to leave a second time, so it happened the same way - in krasnohorivka, they went with the boys, a woman with a child returned to visit her mother, and everything was quiet here, but it was quiet for several days, and then she calls already late in the evening, says, well , everything here is hell... artillery is just flying and hitting the rubble, please, and we gathered in the morning, the head of the kurakhov police was there in person present, went, evacuated, took away, that is, well, so be it. mr. pavle, do you cooperate with the security service, we remember that after the evacuation of people from avdiivka, and in general after the capture of avdiivka , it turned out that there were quite a few zhduns who stubbornly did not want to leave, or now, having such experience already? of other

settlements, and the security service and other authorities are simply monitoring who is there to know what kind of people may have left, then returned, and can cause harm simply, is there something like that? of course, everyone services that are involved in the defense forces, there is full interaction, i cannot tell you exactly what measures are being carried out, but everything about... and briefly, we have literally a minute to spare, we know that you conducted an evacuation from the mariana community, the spouses managed to take their car out too, that is, not the people themselves, a few words, because we know that it was such a very emotional story, well, really, when the guys dropped this video, well, i didn't drive with them, but when they dropped this video, it's just even you know,

such... and people, this is a couple, fortunately, they made such a decision, but they were held up by a car, and they could not believe that they could just come, help and even take what was left of them there , and i understand that the man put his soul into this car , and as the woman goes and says: we didn't know yet that it was possible, but if only we knew. then we would have left earlier, well , it's cool, it's great, and they are very big well done for making such a decision, and a lot of gratitude to the guys for helping this family to leave, we thank you for the fact that it is possible, people drove and just sang, sang ukrainian songs, because you probably gave them back their faith, faith in people, and because after such a neighborhood and

constant shelling, it is very... difficult to keep this faith, and you return mr. pavle, thank you for the conversation, thank you for everything you and your colleagues do for ukrainians. pavlo dyachenko, one of the members of the white angel police crew, was with us. it's news time, khrystyna parubiy, will tell you about the most important and interesting thing at the moment, khrystyna, you have my word. greetings oksana, thank you. volunteers liberated another settlement in russia. i will tell you more about this in the issue, as well as about the situation in the regions of ukraine after midnight. do not miss the attack of the invaders in a moment. news on espresso. khrystyna porubiy works in the studio. four people were injured as a result of an enemy attack in the kherson region.

tanner they targeted the residential quarters of several residents.