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the premium sponsor of the national team represents. united by football, stronger together. i am maria gurska, journalist of the ukrainian tv channel espresso and editor-in-chief of the polish-ukrainian portal.
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the creators of the film were simply cut out of the telecast, this is the presentation of the award to them, the creators of the oscar, just like that, despite the fact that last year, for example, in the tv version of the oscar , the awarding ceremony for the authors of another navalny documentary remained, the award was received by yulia, navalny’s wife, she stood on the stage , there were tears, there was an oscar, but we are not advocating to cut navalny, but to leave mariupol, why is the topic of ukraine not welcome at such events in the world and why? that is, in the field of propaganda, its agents act more and more effectively and more actively. we see how putin influences the western elites through various channels, that ukraine has not been talked about too much, and this creates such shyness around this topic. and what are you talking about ukraine? i have my own example here, albeit a very personal one. i also noticed it myself that after several weeks of harassment from various chauvinists, russian trolls. and so on, i
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began to think, maybe today i will talk about something else, so that it would not be the case that i talk about ukraine all the time, because they will say that i only deal with ukraine, and finally one of my friends said to me: "hey, what are you doing, why are you allowing yourself to be pressured?" this pressure in social networks, the pressure of russian trolls, of which there are a lot everywhere, it forces people in the west, even hardy ones, to start thinking, as they say, about every word they say, so that it does not sound harsh, and this is exactly the moment when you need to do literally the opposite because today on the front there is... a campaign, especially on the internet, for everyone to leave ukraine alone, and we need to thoroughly oppose it, i intend to do so in the coming weeks. soon the film 20 days in mariupol will be shown in cinemas in poland and the eu. let's go, look, fight the myth of being tired of ukraine.
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we talk about it, discuss and fight against russian trolls, but we also fight against fatigue from ukraine. for the sake of common security. in russia, on march 17, there will be presidential elections, almost on the same day as the pseudo-referendum in crimea 10 years ago. what to expect from russia in the next 10 years? this is not an election, this is a plebiscite, putin's popularity. he is important for putin, not for us. this is important for putin, because putin is doing everything possible to show his. navalny was completely naive when he was back in russia, navalny understood that there might be an agreement in the kremlin to use another candidate that the west would approve, and navalny made a bet, the possibility of such a scenario, and unfortunately it did not work out, but navalny's return took place due to the fact that in the circle of the kremlin there are also those who understand that everything that is happening
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is necessary, but the real obsession of putin is the capture of kyiv, the establishment of power in the ukrainian capital, but the 22nd year was a series of disasters from the point of view in putin's view, because he lost at kiev, lost the battle for kharkiv and faced the need to leave kherson. in addition, i still think that the kherson case was key. this means that after kherson, the west lacked the wisdom to hit russia hard, because russia then was the weakest in this game. sorry, i thought a little about kherson, putin just now wants to show that he is strong, first of all to his entourage, he wants to demonstrate that he is tough, so that they don't even think of sending him out of office, he is just afraid of his entourage, that they will come up with someone else , and he thought that it would be navalny, what could be the development of events, but now it will probably be, you know, he will always be afraid, because he has the mentality of an authoritarian coward.
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kasparov has always had this and it is clear that now he's in the crosshairs. what will happen to putin's desire to further conquer the world and rebuild the soviet union in its former borders? i think that now putin needs more powerful powers, so what he's really hoping for now is not that he'll get a good result, that he'll be able to say to his own: okay, look, i'll do it, the next stage he 'll try to break through the front somewhere, maybe he'll want to rush to kharkiv, now he tactically needs something big, and we have to block his way. so that's what's been happening lately, i'm being asked why did i go to the front at all? i am doing this in order to tell even more passionately everything i saw in london, paris and berlin, this is the goal and the point is to mobilize our partners in the west today so that not once, not in a year, not in two, in the coming weeks, ammunition were delivered,
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it is wonderful, by the way, that the president of the czech republic understood this, because he is just an example of such a figure who perfectly feels not only what is needed, but also when it is needed. we will see later, but today there is no agreement on this in many countries of the alliance, and it is emerging a situation where macron wants, but it is impossible. i know that everyone in ukraine is afraid of his words, of course, but sometimes admiration comes before time, so i would say that
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yes, it is good that the french president already understands that everything is serious, better late than never, but point two: the president of france, without asking anyone, can seize russian resources in france and can support. france can add more money to defense without much effort. here , germany is significantly ahead of france. france lags behind poland when it comes to aid. and here it is enough to simply compare the potentials. the french president can provide ammunition, the french president can organize the supply of long- range missiles to the ukrainian army. i would not like us to artificially direct the conversation to nato troops in ukraine. will they be or not, instead of seriously discussing what really needs to be done today. but if we talk about nato troops in ukraine, is such a scenario possible, because we see that i do not see such a scenario now, i am telling you this frankly, because we planned this program as an honest one conversation with the ukrainians, i am a little worried that everyone switched to this topic, today it is far from a key topic, because
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today the most important thing is to quickly, now deliver ammunition to the front, let 's talk about it, british foreign minister james cameron offered germany to exchange. if our viewers are interested in where to write letters, i answer to the office of the federal chancellor. there is support not only from the cdu, the csu, but also from a larger number of parties, because this should be a decision of the bundestag, and secondly
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it is about external arguments, i.e. it is necessary to give certain opportunities, for example, to provide similar weapons and to give the opportunity to the federal chancellor finally under the influence of the same cameron to say. three times more than the usa and europe do for ukraine. firstly, why does russia make so many weapons, what are they preparing for, and secondly, what can europe do against it? yes, but there are also factors that europe has now stepped up a bit with this production, at least on these issues there is general agreement. because before that there was a lack of common understanding. well, now we are approaching what putin is capable of producing, let's say up to 3 million shells.
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orbán said trump does not want the united states to fund european security. and also that if he becomes president, he will not give a single dollar for the defense of ukraine. what do you think about the forecast of the us withdrawal from nato and how europe will cope with such a scenario? this is a scenario of suffocation of ukraine, that is, this is a very dangerous scenario for poland, as a polish politician, i say that this is a very bad course of events, trump's scenario and the pope's scenario franziska is a very bad scenario for poland. will europe cope, which, as we can see, is already preparing for the worst? europe should scare. what are the possible solutions? europe must deter, this is its fundamental task. to scare putin? yes, there should be
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production at such a pace and in such options that putin sees that this is not a joke, that there will really be a war. and produce primarily for ukraine. by the way, this week you visited, you need to send to ukraine, but wait, i wouldn’t say that first of all, because for an effective putin is needed today. we are already at a different stage, when i would not say that we should produce weapons only for ukraine, we should produce them for ourselves and for ukraine in parallel. to force, to sell, to receive credit in all possible forms, so that there would be physical ammunition in ukraine, but we ourselves are already at a different stage, we need to arm ourselves in order to raise the stakes for putin. in politics, we usually take steps that force the other person who has the idea to be more aggressive to start counting and to understand, oh, this is not profitable for me, and putin should be put in a situation 20-25 years after the expansion of nato. this week you participated in a meeting of the foreign affairs committee of the weimar troika in the bundestag. did you convince in berlin? the military
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, i also used emotions, not only analytics, analytics is important, this is what i use when i meet politicians, my last visit to kyiv was very good from this point of view, but it is always worth going afterwards, to see how ordinary people react people, and then share it at the event, i have this method, i then share everything to experience. at the event, i tell them everything i saw, that there was a strong emotional message to get them to push, to get help now, what the reaction was, they listened, they listen little by little. demonstration that we are with them, when i arrive, i see that they are very happy that these are stories not about travel, this question came to them because it really matters,
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this is my opinion, and that matters. prime minister during his visit to kyiv in january poland's donald tusk said that he would join the g7 declaration on security guarantees for ukraine. what do you think about these security guarantees, to what extent can they be a realistic mechanism, and how is the polish-ukrainian dialogue conducted regarding these guarantees? we join this and we also conclude an additional agreement, but in my small homeland people say that there is truth, then...
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today it is tactically important, but i am afraid that ukrainians will not think that this is enough today. nato membership is required, and i am not i'm talking about the guarantees that they are bad, it's normal, it's good, but there should be more and today we should expect more. i will tell you honestly, in ukraine they understand very well that security guarantees cannot replace nato, but what can we really expect from the july nato summit in washington? is this the anniversary summit?
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support for the idea of ​​joining nato is record 84% among ukrainians, according to the razumkov center. ukraine, georgia, maybe moldova. putin cannot be given the opportunity to put his foot down. if we fail, we will think about something else. for now, we have to play to our full potential and show the west that we are all determined . the head of the nato chancellery, stian jensen , stated as early as last year that joining nato could be the solution for ukraine. that part of the territory where there are no russian troops. the ukrainian authorities rejected these ideas, as we understand, due to sociology, but nevertheless, for example, our colleague vitaly portnikov, whom you also know well, believes that due to the mobilization potential of russia relative to ukraine, this decision can save the state, but to what extent realistically do such conversations take place on the sidelines at all?
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what he talks about on the sidelines, i won't tell you, even if i know, yes. but what i can say, what needs to be said, is that we must look for creative solutions. expanding nato, i think we need to go this way, expanding nato, as much as possible. nato is a stronger guarantee than various bilateral defense agreements, because the agreements that ukraine concluded today are not strict security guarantees. they're good deals, but they're just a little different.
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bilateral preparations for the meeting are ongoing of the prime ministers of poland and ukraine, which will take place on march 28. and what is on the agenda and what is being discussed now? let's wait, we are preparing and almost ready for the meeting of the bilateral economic commission.
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the qr code and card number appear, they must be used to support our collective vehicles for defenders, land cruiser, jeep pickup and refrigerator. all this, which is actually very necessary at the front. here are the props, you know what to do with them. 900.00 hryvnias need to be collected, and how can i do it? thought, wished, that it would be great if today before the end of our eteru with roman, we collected up to 150 00 hryvnias, then 5 00 more are needed to accumulate, in fact a few minutes are sometimes enough for you, but we are constantly monitoring , it is possible to collect in a few minutes, so we also have updated information during that time, in particular in sums, this is how the explosions sounded, this is how public relations correspondents published this information... , we are waiting for official information also from the general staff, and from the military-civilian administration, for example, there is already an update from mykolaiv, again, it
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was iskanders, again. from the same crimea, and again by residential construction, precisely where a sufficient number of apartment buildings, five are injured, this is updated information from mr. kim, eh, and also in dnipropetrovsk region, in nikopol, where it flies every day, a drone hit a gas station and it is already known that three people were injured as a result of this hit, so eh we... now we probably have to take a short break, and then we'll have an interesting guest - wait a second , please, before the break, just a minute, i just have to tell you about one story, today is the last final day of this whole show , which is called elections in russia, they are like that are called elections, and we understand that they are also
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holding a similar campaign in their embassies around the world. and here in berlin , for example, there was a huge queue in front of the russian embassy, ​​people go there to vote, and next to it, along this queue, an action was organized, the action is called a test of russian democracy , near the russian embassy, ​​and the organizers of this action actually offer everyone willing throw a ballot into the urn, in that urn there are small items... in moldova too, well , they were inspired, probably by the fact that there is a cocktail for molotov, as they say, correctly, the finns flew, they were detained in moldavanna, he said that he was dissatisfied with russia's policy, that was the reason, but latvia made the embassy even more interesting, there is also a vote of those russians who
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are there. .. on the territory of latvia, they put a big bus there, where it is written that if you are going to vote for putin, in fact , there is a map like this, and on it is drawn where magadan, far east and so on, leave latvia here there, if they came for elections, you know, they organized voting also in the temporarily occupied territories, that is, voting, this compulsion to vote, which they call elections, and i will ensure it. the russians have the opportunity to express their will for everyone, in particular for their soldiers. we remember that under the hoods, our marines recently smashed theirs, well , the voting didn't work out there, it didn't work out, but they tried, because someone was running there with a ballot box, well, he didn't run, it was not possible to allow voting, our defenders pointed out saw pieces of that urn.
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among those characters there were much more real russian voters, in particular, there was a person, a mole, you know, yes, and there was also a person who was a bear or burashka, everything, that is, we actually have the opportunity, maybe even to show this to our viewers, so what the hell, i i would like to see how a mole votes, how
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a bear votes, petro pershenko is also there, i think he voted, no? so was peter i , there was nikolayushko, but it was on the first day of those three election days, that is, on them, let's see, yes, oh, this, this is different than peter pe, and oh, you see, moles also vote, what it is a mole like that, yes, some very fat mole, well, well, something like that between, a grasshopper, a bear, they even made such installations at the polling stations, you know, when a dead locust voted. for putin , well, we are not inventing this trick, they are creating it themselves, well, they invented tricks themselves and call it an election, they invented this themselves, let them have fun, and we are now adding to our conversation our next guest, an expert in countering disinformation, former vo head of the center for combating disinformation.

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