of these elections, yes, you asked the question whether the world recognizes the legitimacy of these elections, well, also partially, because civilized countries cannot recognize it, but tsydzenpin recognizes it, india recognizes and congratulates, indonesia recognizes and congratulates, likewise the republic of south africa, brazil, a certain nigeria, cameroon, that is, countries with 100 plus million inhabitants, and there, bangladesh, pakistan, that's how the situation will turn out. that, by the way, there is not a single country in europe that has 100 plus, well, we don’t count the russians, 100 million people, yes, and putin has them too they will say, look, all the countries with 100 million plus have recognized it, except for the united states, for example, yes, japan, maybe all the rest of the countries with a population of 100 plus million have all recognized it, so it is recognized, legitimate, and the fact that biden or someone else doesn't like it there. in europe, macron scholz doesn't

like president zelensky , that's what they'll say, and what's worse is that putin is legitimate in the eyes of, let's say, some uncle vola from stambov, to uncle vanya from ryazan, why, because uncle vanya was drinking a glass yesterday, to uncle vanya from ryazan, he called uncle vova, a classmate of his there at the moscow university from stambol, and asked. well, what are you, volochka, you voted for your guy there, this type of anxiety, yes, i voted there, and i voted there, and everything is there, and he doesn’t meet anyone in the yard, in the store, the same, everyone voted at work, yes, behind the garages , they are somewhere there, or in the garages, somewhere they are drinking and there , everyone in the garages, everyone voted for putin , because the first person who is not for putin is silent secondly, those who are not for putin have been sitting or left for a long time, or they are silent and did not come to the elections, and that's why.

that's why with such well and really well if i, i would from what business to go to vote in russia if it's shapito's circus , well, well, people don't make sense to vote, they didn't go to vote, and that's why such a high percentage of those who, well, who, if, if they voted for putin voices, it is clear that it is inflated a little , yes, but we still have to admit that the greater half of russia. after all, they voted for putin, more than half, if you don't count, then this well, i will point it out, it is obvious, and the russians themselves do not understand that these elections are illegitimate, if only because it is necessary to have, well, a little bit of iq , elementary knowledge to understand that the elections are illegitimate, because there was no alternative, because and they killed navalny, girkin, somewhere they beat and pushed him.

there is someone else in the zone, everyone else is sitting there trembling , there are kadyrov, regional leaders , there is no one, no one nominated some marginals, well, it is good for it to be , and it is clear that there is no alternative, and therefore these elections, well, if they are legitimate in de yure, but with there are signs of law, yes, and signs of justice , but it is very important for ukrainians. for either they are stupid or intimidated, and even simpler , what right do they have, and from our point of view, this is a type of election without a choice, yes, they are all ukrainians, the mental trait of justice is higher and they have not shown anything else but putin, by the way, looking ahead, this is what our government will try to do in the post-war elections, that is, not to give an alternative to someone or to take... to discredit, or to prevent

, for example, the same person from running zaluzhnomu, that's all, and then there , come on, by the way, by the way, mr. viktor , putin himself says that this supposedly high turnout in the elections is connected with the dramatic events that the country is going through, let's listen to a small fragment: related to the current situation, it is related to today's situation. is due to the fact that we are forced in the literal sense of the word, with weapons in hand, to protect the interests of our citizens, our people and create a future for the full-fledged, sovereign, safe development of the russian federation, our homeland, and i think that, no, i don't think so, but the results, in particular the turnout , show that first of all ordinary people feel it, and understand that a lot depends on them. mr. viktor, is it possible... to simplify this construction and say

that the russians, voting for putin, voted for the war, for the continuation of the war, which is absolutely true, but again here, we listen to the words of putin himself, when putin says that the citizens russia was voted there because we have to defend them with arms in hand interests, and no one said what about the russians , let's think, is it in your interests that your children or husbands die in ukraine, or not in yours, that it is in your interests there, some russian woman who just sells oil and gas, and do you live there or not? it is in putin's interests to blow up putin's ambitions, it's just that for now we need to show the russians other interests, but no one has shown them, so even those marginals who were against putin, they still repeat their crimea, there is something else, something else, that is, you are absolutely sure that it is in your interests to have crimea

yours, or choose, let's arrange interests, it is possible to gather many, many interests there, you know how a young girl can have 10 pairs there. to consider as potential suitors, yes, but when they tell her, name only one, and she already at one o'clock, and those nine have already gone to the side of the forest, the same here, if you say there, you want a personal happiness, do you want wealth, a car, is it important to you that you have never been to crimea, well, that crimea is russian, and we can already see what they will say otherwise, but no one even cares about them does not offer any other options for alternatives and them. interests, who said these are their interests? putin said, these patterns are imposed, in fact, they have led the russians so far, yes, not only that, if you start asking them in focus groups, then many people

will say: yes, well, they think that patriots, for i'm more important there, i'd rather be without a car, a poor beggar, but for crimea to be ours, i'm a patriot, we're poor, but proud of everything. well, you have to work with people for a long time in order to do this to them, but there is another option work, other interests of the same people, but russia does not have this. but, but look, well, this is the result that they drew almost 88%. does this give additional opportunities to putin, who will say: "listen, well , 88% of russians support me, now we will attack europe and not only ukraine, because... we have support, we are united, and we will to row, to mobilize everyone, because the voters gave me trust, or the so-called voters, the so-called trust, but he will constantly refer to the fact that i have such high support that, well, excuse me, i'm only doing your will now, and

he won't do that, he'll pretend that he's very modest and won't flaunt it, but everyone in his team will refer to that, whatever. now they will be legitimized, so you chose vladimir vladimirovych, there is like, well, eat now , but this is a double-edged sword, because this regime is successful so far, relatively successful, they took an audiobook, it seems to them that in their second second breath has opened and that they will now come in spring and summer, and you imagine if their army, for example, falls apart in march of next year, it simply falls apart, they simply get tired of fighting. well, because all the armies are tired of fighting, well, we have bucha, gostomel, and other cities behind our shoulders, behind our army , and we know what will happen to them if the army leaves, yes, retreats, and they , they know by and large within themselves that

kursk and belgorod are not in danger, let alone some mythical talyati, but we are not going to go there, that we only want ours back. that's why they don't have the motivation that we have, we always have more motivation, or rather two motivations, two motivations, they've got a little bit of courage now, but our patriotism is still undressed, i'm valid, and we fight for their families, directly for their families, for them to live, simply live, mr. viktor, and this is our motivation more, that's why russian women. the army will be sprinkled for the first time. mr. viktor, we have already mentioned how the world will react, there will be the legitimization of putin as whether or not there will be a president, will he be recognized as legitimate or not? german foreign minister anna elena berbak believes that

russians had no choice when voting for the president of the russian federation this weekend. let's hear what she said. without a choice the electoral process testifies not only to putin's reckless behavior against his own people, but also against the un charter. conducting the so-called voting in part of the territory of ukraine and moldova. and georgia violates international law. we must do everything to protect itself from this russia, from putin, and firmly stand by ukraine with another 5 billion euros, so that ukraine could defend itself from this cruel aggressive war. and about the violation of ukrainian sovereignty, said the head of european diplomacy josep borel, this is how he commented on the pseudo-elections in russia. let's listen. these were not free and fair elections, the absence of an organization for

security and cooperation in europe, a very limited environment. diplomatically speaking, this is what i can say, that this election was based on repression and intimidation, were held in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine, violating the sovereignty of ukraine. mr. viktor, that's what it means if western. states, the leaders of western states will not recognize the legitimacy of putin, which changes, that is, they call him the self-proclaimed president of the russian federation, or simply putin, as german diplomats say, we will not call him president, we will just say putin and that's it. what consequences can this have and will it have, well, in part, he will still be recognized in part, yes, because, well, he did not recognize you biden... erdogan will put a stick in our wheels here, because look, putin did not

go to see him before the elections, now putin is drawing himself to erdogan, on a visit, and erdogan is the leader of a country that is a member of nato. plus, if orban recognizes it, for example, he will congratulate him, or there is also sijarto, for example, he will make some kind of contrived visit there, grown-ups. and we will find that even among civilized countries, because turkey is a part of nato, it is considered a civilized country, but they, some recognize, some do not , and therefore, yes, it is good for us, if everyone is talking there, not president putin, but just putin, yes, it’s already cool, it ’s already something, but no one will say, for example, nothing... macron is the so-called president of russia, putin, or as they say on

lukashenka the self-proclaimed president of belarus will no longer say that about putin, and this will also be a partial legitimization , that is, on the one hand, well, at least because before everyone recognized him as mr. president, yes, now if they say that there is no leader and no president, it’s just putin even if they will add. la la la but it doesn't matter, because there will be an indian leader, well, i don't know who, they also have re-elections there, who they will have there will also be there, indonesia will be there, and so on, mr. victor, yesterday putin, after the preliminary results of these pseudo-elections were announced, announced that he would create... a sanitary zone, if necessary, between ukraine and russia, well, this is the second time he has publicly announced this, about this

so-called a sanitary zone that would allow russia to avoid shelling, including foreign-made weapons. if there will be long-range missiles, it is unlikely that this sanitary zone will help anything, of course, but it is obviously about the fact that on the eastern and northeastern border, they want to make some kind of ennuquilo there. meter zone, a gray zone that will allow them to control the border. sumyshchyna has been under massive shelling by the russians for the past few weeks, only in the past day, here are the official statistics of the regional military administration: 486 explosions, 46 settlements were shelled, more than 200 aerial bombs per week in the region, artillery and mortar fire houses and civil infrastructure , how do you assess what putin is saying about

the creation of this sanitary zone, and will there be rehearsals for the creation of this sanitary zone, sumyshchyna, because in donetsk region, in luhansk region it seems like this is a gray zone, it there are already, where simply, well, towns and villages have been demolished, well, we have the day before yesterday... the center of piserivka was destroyed, we actually have 22 settlements in sumy oblast completely evicted, these are those in a five-kilometer zone, where children are forcibly evicted from the five-kilometer zone, and i believe that this is the right thing for the state to do, because the children must be saved, even if the parents, well, do not want and want to risk their lives further, and i think that this is precisely what is being created, that is, they are now training on us, they are dropping cabs, i don't know if they are training icemen , in order to drop ice there in flight, yes, they are training it

, they are just trying it, well, they have these 500-kilogram bombs in bulk, at least, and they are preparing these... elements, well, when they launch them, they plan, yes, if fly, and already there, i spoke with igor lapin, he says up to 80 km, well, we have further there was no kiev, well, that is, but at least 40-50 km away, they are definitely already dropping these bombs, and a lot of bombs, especially in the last two months, on sumy oblast, that is, this is what putin said, it just fits somewhere in these frameworks. plus 5-7 km is where the mines reach and up to 20 km where the horta reaches, i have the feeling that they are taking units from the front and those that are crossing over, well, for reconciliation, yes, when they replenish some of their batteries or mortar units , they are simply brought here and they train as if on the lower front intensity, because they

received a kind of return from the pedovdeivka, yes, well, they are also given a return here, let's say so. it is not sweet for them either, but this is not, well, it is still not the same front as the one in podavdivkovo, although it is a full-fledged front just there with a lower intensity, sumshchyna 540 km of the border, this is a front, that is, i can say that here i am sitting with you now, speaking 30 km from the front. thank you, mr. viktor, take care, it was viktor boberenko, a political expert, an expert of the bureau of policy analysis, we are friends... working live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching live there, please vote in our poll, today we ask you whether the world will recognize the legitimacy of putin after the fake election for a temporary occupied territories of ukraine, yes, no, or if you have your own opinion, please write in the comments, if you watch us on tv, if you

think that the world recognizes the legitimacy of putin, 0800-211-381, 0800 e 211 382 , all calls to these numbers are free, call, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we will be in touch with mykhailo gonchar, president of the strategy 21 global studies center, energy expert. mr. mykhailo, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening. let's start, mr. mykhailo, our conversation with strikes by ukrainian forces. defense on russia's oil refining capacities, as a result of these strikes, 15% of the entire oil refining potential in russia was lost, well, at least that's what bloomberg gives, i don't know, maybe there's a little more, and you know more about it than there are, because they call the figure of the existence of 88

oil refineries in russia, 38 are working, well, if 12 or 13... factories are damaged, then of those that are working, then 30% are damaged, i calculated well bloomberg writes that 15% is damaged, how do you assess the potential of russia , what have they lost and explain to our viewers how catastrophic losses are these, or how serious losses are these for russia, and how quickly they recover from this, ok, i'll try, well the amount factories... should not impress, because of course when they sound there numbers 72 or someone counted 88, then in principle these are the same plants, they are very different in terms of their capacities, there may be a plant that processes a few tens of thousands of tons of oil a year, just for nothing, that is, a mini refinery, it

is also in statistics, and there are plants such as omsk, for example, which processes 21 million tons of oil. year, it is the largest in russia, or from the same category there, say, ryazan, yaroslavl, nizhnigorod, these are large refineries that process somewhere under 20 million tons of oil there, it is, so to speak, the top league, but it is conditionally the first league, which processes up to 10 million tons there, and so on, mainly here it is important to pay attention to the fact that one way or another they are concentrated mainly in the european part of russia, that is , already within the reach of our weapons , and here it is very characteristic. the fact that our drones have already appeared in samara is a very important moment, because samara is, in fact, the main russian oil hub, and it

has already flown there, a lot of oil is concentrated there, not only oil refineries plants, but also, accordingly, huge tank parks and so on for storing oil and oil products, and therefore, in principle , the damage was serious, but of course i would not... i would consider it some kind of fatal damage, to destroy an oil refinery and damage it, this different things, when many consider these words to be synonymous, it is not so , because the destruction of a plant that has a large territory, several dozen or even hundreds of hectares, well, it is necessary, so to speak, to carry out a massive air raid there, by a tactical aviation brigade there and... iron it for a long time, but we are talking about the fact that the means of defeat by drones are indeed

surgically precise strikes on oil refining technology, and in this context, of course, we see different numbers, there are different names , there is a 15% drop, there someone calls a more modest figure, well, for example, i myself calculated 12.60 for rosneft, for example, compared to the daily, with the daily volume of production in january, and here in the first two weeks of march, the drop is somewhere by 12.6%, this is due to the rosneft plants, well, bloomberg is obvious there, maybe they had more panoramic picture, so if these are really serious losses, and we can see from the reaction in the russian media and social networks, but... what if the problem that touched, touched russia not only from the point of view of such a negative image of burning

oil refineries for them plants, i.e. the fact that the ban on its export of gasoline was introduced until august 1, it is quite telling, here the situation is like this, but when they talk about the drop in processing volumes, well , if as a result of processing... at least three main types are obtained oil products that have widespread use, it is gasoline, it is diesel fuel and, strictly speaking, jet fuel, and of course, the largest and most widespread product of processing both from the point of view of production and from the point of view of consumption is diesel fuel, there are fewer gasolines, and in russia it is precisely the specifics oil refining is connected. with the fact that for diesel, if they had discomfort due to the arrival of ukrainian drones, and for gasoline, if the situation were more serious, they

would have a relative maneuver from the point of view of replacing the lack of diesel fuel there the account of supplies there, let's say, from those oil refineries, which are more deeply located there and in the asian part of russia there and let's say. the same omsk refinery, but they do not have such maneuverability in terms of gasoline, that is, damage there, for example, and technical problems at the nizhny novgorod oil refinery, they sharply reduced the volume of gasoline production, and accordingly, this was the reason why russia immediately imposed a ban on export of gasoline, because this is where we see the situation with the price increase, it is as devastating as they write that there is a price jump for... gasoline in russia, but an increase of several percent, 2-3% there, it is already observed, and this is a sign of serious problems, and in principle we

can see from the reactions of the russian professional e , which are closer to the sector of the oil sector, that they express serious concern, realizing that if this is the case, the strikes will not stop there, but... and accordingly, if, not only other refineries are under threat, but the threat remains these oil-receiving capacities, which were already exposed to the tray, that is, until things, by the way, by the way, the fact that these strikes will continue is promised by president zelensky, a small synchronicity of the president of ukraine. let's listen. in these weeks, many have already seen that the russian system of war has. vulnerabilities, and that we can reach these vulnerabilities with our weapons, i thank the armed forces of ukraine, the sbu, the main

intelligence directorate for. new ukrainian long-distance poverty, of course, i thank our defense and industrial complex, everyone who works for the sake of ukrainian strength, because this is truly ukrainian long-distance poverty, what our own drones ukraine will now always have its own strike force in the sky. mr. mikhail, how quickly can the russians adjust or change, according to the situation that arises in them at that... refinery or at another, how much can they do it during a war? well, if we are talking about damage, as a result of damage, and of course, in each specific case, you have to look at how serious the damage is. well, if we, for example, take the example of the topsy refinery, which was affected, the main technology was

affected on the 25th, it seems. january, then he still is pir does not work, so to speak, they will restore it somewhere, it may take another month and so on, there are other refineries where the damage was less serious, after some time there, after a couple of weeks, the technology was launched, but they do not officially report, now i, for example , pay attention to the fact that the refinery, this technological installation has started working, but there were no official announcements, of course, they will not say this, because they are wary of the next strikes, but without a doubt, they will be and they should be, because here in principle , systematicity and consistency are important, well in fact, if we take, consider their strategy of actions regarding our fuel facilities, well , it was the same, they continued from practically the beginning of the invasion, literally on the third day after february 27, 22

, the first was already there. .. strike on the vasylkiv oil depot and then they methodically worked out strikes on all regional large oil depots, and we see these strikes continue, and they also struck the kremenchug oil refinery and the shebelinsky gas refinery, which did not worked in principle according to odessa and so on, so in principle they are now getting a boomerang of what they did with regard to our fuel capacities of oil refineries. therefore, in principle, if we were to take into account a larger arm, a longer arm, a greater reach, it is about a 1,000 km radius now, as evidenced by the strikes on objects in samara, we can, so to speak, have a walk around, which is called, and we are not only talking about oil refineries, we should also take into account fuel depots, what

is it called, simple oil depots, and we we remember that oryol, kurshchyna , belgorod, voronishchyna, bryanshchyna , the oil depots, which are located either near the state border with ukraine or near the front line, they must be destroyed, because one way or another they are used as intermediate fuel storage bases, which will later be used for the needs of the group of russian troops conducting combat operations in ukraine, then... here, as it were, we see a comprehensive approach on the part of the defense forces of ukraine, it is necessary to destroy the entire fuel infrastructure, with to, well, days to achieve in a situation where there will be a fuel famine, let's say, the formula for success on the battlefield is to create a shortage of ammunition, a shortage of fuel and interrupt the lines of communication,

so in principle, how... now the strategy is aimed at inflicting the maximum possible damage to the enemy by acting in its strategic depth, which is why they are so nervous. mr. mykhailo, one more question about russian gas, because herman galushchenko, minister of energy of ukraine, said that ukraine is not going to extend the contract for gas transit with the russian gazprom. let's hear what he said. to confirm that we do not plan to enter into any additional or prolong the effects of the agreement, there is an eu initiative to repower eu-27, that is, to completely get rid of russian gas by the 27th year, this is not only turbopipe gas, we are also talking about lng gas in europe, and i i will tell you that the amount of investment in europe today, which is invested in making...