support would be much more difficult for us , but certainly this support, well, at the moment , from the point of view of understanding us as representatives of the defense committee, who understand the difficulties facing our defense security sector, is certainly not enough, because if timely decisions were made to provide ukraine what it needs in a specific period of time, the situation on the territory of the battlefield would probably be different if there was no delay in the delivery in the first place. barrel artillery, then rocket artillery, then tanks, then air defense systems, or before that, anti -aircraft defense systems, then aircraft, but these are all decisions made by our partners, and they help us a lot, but they are at least six months late, so of course this help is not enough, we are trying to consolidate other countries and our european partners, to give us something that will help us protect our people and free our territory from the aggressor country. thank you, mr. fedor, mr.

oleksiy, but still, what is the defeat of russia in your opinion, in the understanding of the west, what, what, what, what must be defeat, do they understand what defeat is? serhii, i think our broadcast is so political now, after all , there are three politicians, three representatives of the political force, the security forces, yes, and on the one hand there, well , it is very useful, i guess. electorately speak some correct patriotic gas, but i will still try to comment, well , more calmly, as with an expert, well, taking into account experience, well, you are absolutely correct in asking the question, and let's find out that in the end for us defeat and victory, well, as for me, first of all, since this war imposed on us by the aggressor is... existential, yes, it is

, for them, because they deny the very right of ukraine to exist as a state, and for us it is, but with a different sign of minus on plus, it is existential, that is, we have to prove that we have the right to our statehood, territories , and so on and the like, so this period will be absolutely difficult, and unfortunately, it will not be short and medium-term in time, it is difficult to predict it. it will be extended, but it will not be a quick period, to the right, as far as i am concerned, our victory is already over the point is that russia did not achieve its main goal, it did not achieve the goal of its two- or three-day special operation, when they believed that in three days there would be a white flag, as one pope there advises, yes, she and for two extra years did not achieve its... goal

, ukraine took place and it is absolutely clear that there cannot be any military defeat, and this is essentially a certain victory for ukraine, but now agree that if in our relations with russia, well, it is simple enough, here bipolar for us, yes, white, black, or them, or them, or us, it is actually not such a bipolar conflict for the world. and they consider it, well, from different points of view, that is why this is the absence of radical solutions, which we would really like, that is why the delay in transferring to us, well, from the side of germany, the same missiles that are afraid, yes, we see that the germans are afraid, because they understand the possible consequences that the russians will apply to them in foreign aspects, taking into account the nuances of the relationship between russia and germany. over

the past 15 years, the same gas and so on and so on, so definitely, today i am i believe that the world, the uninterested world, will not make it clear that ukraine is defeated, this is definitely a big positive plus, which will be our victory, sorry, here it is all still ahead, and we definitely understand, that our... victory is the restoration of our borders, reparations, restoration of the economy, and all corresponding actions after the end of the war, our victory in and in this aspect. well, by the way, no matter how much we say that germany is afraid of something when it talks about taurus long-range missiles, and german defense minister boris pistorius announced a new package before today's ramstein meeting. military aid for ukraine

with an estimated cost of 500 million euros. let's listen to what the minister of defense of germany said. in ramstein, we collected a new aid package worth almost half a billion euros. it includes 10,000 munitions from the warehouses of our armed forces, their delivery will begin in the near future, in fact now. in addition, we will finance 180,000 munitions from the czech initiative. their supply will take place in stages, starting in the summer. the organization is organized by the czech republic. and even two years ago they were quite cautious about aid, military aid to ukraine and started there with helmets for fighters and started with such modest military supplies, they are already talking about the need to provide serious aid to ukraine and help

ukraine, maybe, maybe , this is facilitated by what putin does, what he says, so we witnessed how on march 17 , pseudo-elections and so-called elections took place in russia and the legitimacy of president putin , a president in trouble, is in question, in great question, because he not only held elections in the temporarily occupied territories of ukraine, which is a violation of international law and law, and the laws of russia, if there are any laws still in force there , and legislation. of ukraine, because he falsified elections, including on our territory, and forced ukrainians to vote for themselves in these elections, what and how should the ukrainian government do, first of all, so that the world does not recognize him

putin's powers, taking into account the fact that we , our citizens who are in the temporarily occupied territories, were also involved in this process, and here it's just a matter of honor... to convince all our partners not to call putin the president, not to recognize his powers, to do its illegitimacy, and the main thing is that this illegitimacy, if it is spoken about, what it will give to putin, and what it will not give to putin, or rather, what it will give to the world, ms. irina, well, first of all, there is a corresponding appeal of the verkhovna rada, which was was decided regarding the illegality of the elections that were held on september 17. this, as you rightly said, is the holding of elections in the temporarily occupied territories, this is the absence of any competition for the main dictator of this pseudo-formation, in addition, the absence of international observers, which as components,

which allow you to say that the election is completely bogus so, you know, a show election, an election without an election. and accordingly it is desirable that the democratic countries that are partners of ukraine in this wrong war, really took the appropriate steps regarding the non-recognition of these elections in their decision, we did it for our part, so from now on , relatively speaking, the ball is in the court of our partner countries, but in view of what is happening further , i think... the russian federation, under the leadership of this re-elected president, the further it goes, the more it will fall into such, you know, circles of the unruly, because everything that

happens in the russian federation, everything that they commit, those international crimes , those war crimes that they commit, they in principles... they are once again driving nails into the lid of this entity called russia, whoever is the president there, by the way, your colleague in the parliament and feder venislavskyi's colleague in the service of the people, arseniy pushkarenko, who is the deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada's committee on foreign policy , he said that ukraine in its future diplomatic relations should be guided by the fact that... putin is now an illegitimate president, in particular, to raise questions about who exactly from the russian federation to discuss with the issue of the end of the war and the implementation of formulas, formulas of peace. mr. fedor , it is clear that for ukraine, president putin

does not exist, starting from february 24, 2022, although there was a period when we tried to enter into some negotiations with the russians in march to april 22, but no... with putin himself, in your opinion, in this context, should some other processes be initiated within the ukrainian state in order to... look at the entire base, the legal base that existed between ukraine and russia, and simply completely erase russia together with putin with from any relations, from bilateral relations, because probably some other agreements still operate between the two countries, well, we systematically do what you ask about and what you talk about, the verkhovna rada of ukraine is practically constant. denounces, terminates the international agreements that were in force both in the framework

of bilateral relations between ukraine and russia, and in the framework of multilateral relations within the framework of the cis, but here i fully support your idea that ukraine should continue to respond to these illegal pseudo-elections, which took place with a gross violation of norms of international law and by and large all standards of international electoral law, starting from the terms for which the so-called president of russia was re-elected, ending with procedural moments, procedural violations during elections, including in temporarily occupied territories, which is a gross violation of international convention on the treatment of the civilian population during war, but here you know, it is important for us that the signals that we send, as the parliament, as the ministry of foreign affairs, as from president zelensky, are heard. and our western partners responded, because if you look at the statements

of the european union and specific countries, specific states, they all talk about the non-recognition of the legitimacy of the elections in the temporarily occupied territories, while here within the framework of this constituent element, in general, these pseudo-elections , we must talk about the illegitimacy of the newly elected president in general and the impossibility of continuing any contacts with the president. who in fact has no legal or moral right to be called president, but our partners are again quite careful in this matter and if they were to distinguish between what concerns the temporarily occupied territories and what concerns the presidential elections in general, therefore, without a doubt, i think that we from the verkhovna rada of ukraine will still react with resolutions to these illegal elections, therefore that we reacted as if preemptively, now post facto, since the official results have already been announced, very quickly, and ... with fantastic speed, one might say, for such a large country, i think we have to react constantly and

systematically to point out that putin cannot be called the president under any circumstances, but putin won , according to the russian central committee, the biggest victory in all the years of the existence of the russian federation, i.e. more than 80%, there they drew him 87%. according to the experts of the institute for the study of war, putin wants to use this record victory in the so-called elections for a protracted war in ukraine. mr. oleksiy, is what putin has won and what has been announced to the whole world, will this become an excuse for putin to intensify the war against of ukraine and, accordingly, to start a possible war against the west, referring to the fact that this is the will of the russians, so... they voted for me so much, so they are voting for the war, for the fact that we are waging a just and correct

war. let 's try to analyze the situation soberly, given that we understand how we all hate putin and the country he leads, but nevertheless we understand that this terrorist works for his citizens, his vassals, his empire. how many of them there are 170 million, and accordingly he achieves his goal in his country, he cements and consolidates his authoritarian power as much as possible, and let 's admit that he succeeds in this , you see, he has drawn, as you say, 87, he could have drawn 97, while he was ashamed, well, let's say so, if it is possible to apply it to this waste. you understand , such a term, nevertheless, it really created preconditions in its own country

in the economic, political, and repressive terms, in order to really demonstrate to us, first of all, ukraine, in order to put pressure on us psychologically, er, resourcefully, to demonstrate that he is ready to fight as long as it takes, but to achieve his ultimate goal. goals, of course, this is also a signal for the world community, look, don't play around there, everything is fine, i will achieve my goal, and in this regard, i want, i would like to say, definitely us. i would like him not to be recognized by the world as the president, but you see, i agree with my colleague yunislavsky that, after all, they are so careful, taking into account diplomatic and legal nuances, and future situations, i am convinced what they analyze and model, they still so neatly say, yes, indeed the elections

are illegitimate, violations are primarily in the occupied territories, but nevertheless, i think... that politicians and overseas europeans understand that any war ends with some kind of, well , peace, you understand, and some kind of treaty, and some parties have to discuss and conclude this treaty, and of course, the question of the legitimacy of those who take part in these negotiations and in signing this or that document will arise, of course we would all wanted to be putin finished in the same way... as in the 45th year his predecessor and twin adolf schickelbrud schickel gruber hitler, yes, that he was poisoned there, burnt and so on, but agree, there is no 100% guarantee of such a result, so the situation will be difficult, and in this situation, it seems to me, we need to be as

sober, pragmatic and reasonable as possible in this situation, calm, if you like, well, in the situation. when putin won this even if it was a fake victory of 87%, but this is a reason for him to threaten the world the third world war, in order to carry out additional mobilization and say: listen, you voted for me, let's finish ukraine already and let 's end the event, or at least do everything to protect ourselves from this event. well, in fact, demand, demand, like a dictator , absolutely, demand complete obedience from your people and, accordingly, mobilization, yes, well , we also have the question of mobilization and the law on mobilization, there are 4 thousand amendments suspended in the verkhovna rada, it is clear that this draft law preparing for the second reading, yesterday republican senator lynsey graham, who

was in kyiv, met with zelenskyi, he urged the ukrainian deputies to pass. the law on mobilization, and why, mr. fedor, the president of ukraine, as the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine, does not address the parliament, what people, let's pass the draft law, because let's already pass the law on mobilization, because we need to move forward and we need to create conditions when in ukraine there will be a system of mobilization that would suit the army and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine. well, i am i think that any appeals should be based on the law, and the president understands that there are procedures for consideration of the bill in the second reading, now our committee is actually considering this bill for the second three third week, at first block by block, now we have been going for several days in the process of considering specific legislative amendments, and today

we finished on the 16-600th amendment, i think that with the... the pace that we have been demonstrating for the last two days, we have quite a good momentum for this bill , at least it was considered in the committee, well, probably by the end of next week, then we will bring it to the parliamentary hall and the parliament will be determined, but the answer to your question, why this process is being delayed, well, i have already told your colleagues about it, i can say now, because , unfortunately, this draft law and the whole process is connected with its preparation and consideration. it has become excessively politicized, and many political forces represented in the parliament are trying to use one or another of the legislative proposals that they this bill was submitted in order to demonstrate their favorable attitude towards citizens, which they want, if they were to be such defenders of citizens, but we need to find the right balance between really protecting the rights and

freedoms of a person and a citizen and preserving our statehood, and this is the most difficult a problem we are currently working on. with colleagues in the committee, and i think that in the near future we will reach some kind of consensus and offer the already agreed text to the parliament for the second reading. mrs. irina, who is the verkhovna rada of ukraine is trying to please the citizens and is the author of these 4,000 amendments, whether these 400 amendments are necessary or whether they are, as they often call , legislative spam. well, you know, i'll probably start with... that this bill, even after it's passed, is not a panacea that will solve all of the mobilization issues at once, at the same time, it really would be a lot easier if the bill was n't so bulky, but related to specific, problematic issues and would be narrowed down to the solution of precisely these problematic

issues, and did not try to simultaneously cover all the nuances that we are considering in the committee today. the committee takes a professional and constructive approach to the consideration of the draft law, both representatives of the relevant ministries and all the authors of the amendments are invited to... hear their arguments. moreover, there is clearly a discussion at the committee about which norms need to be adjusted, which should be rejected, which should be taken into account. therefore, in this case, no one is delaying the consideration of this draft law, but the number of amendments that are currently registered to of this draft law, shows only one thing, that the draft law, even after finalization, has a sufficiently imperfect appearance in order to... be adopted, let's say, in a shorter time frame. in addition, i want to emphasize that a significant number of amendments submitted by deputies of different factions and

parliamentary groups are identical in content, and therefore try to regulate specific issues that are sensitive to society and that require a more professional approach than what was applied by the government in the process of finalizing the said draft law. so, no one is holding back, prez, i am even glad that this bill is not considered in turbo mode until the second reading, as it was during the first reading, so let's give the deputies the opportunity to work on improving what the government has introduced so that later not to have public non-public opposition to laws that will exclusively apply coercion to people. without taking into account any motivational factors and factors that will improve the issue of mobilization, and not turn it into a scarecrow our society. thank you, mr. oleksiy

, what do you think, is it possible that these four thousand amendments will be worked out, then introduced in the hall, the draft law will be adopted and it will become a law, and president zelensky will simply veto it, say, well, in principle there are a lot of questions and again everything will go... well, i cannot answer for president zelenskyi, the only thing i will tell you frankly is that, in my opinion , the trajectory of submitting this bill was chosen by the current government by mistake, where sub object a legislative initiative was taken by the cabinet of ministers, a sufficiently political body, by the way, well, what about me, if, for example, the same mr. president, dear... he is also the supreme commander, he is also the subject of a legislative initiative, if he submitted this draft law, and in a timely manner, because in my opinion it should have been done in

the 22nd year literally two months after the full-scale aggression, so it seems to me that, considering the authority of mr. president, his ratings, it seems to me that it is much more effective would contribute to the passage of this draft law in the verkhovna rada, so really. says: unfortunately, the political factor has already worked here, because whether we like it or not, the verkhovna rada is a political body, what is there to be surprised about, well, we are making such and such discoveries, the verkhovna rada is a political body and the main incubator of the political process, so what something strange here, that's why it's the first, the second, by the way, you serhii are so lucky today, well, in that sense, look, mr. fedir, mr. iryna, they are members of this committee. but i was visiting yesterday, today, because i was defending my own rights first, i want to thank you for the professional, absolutely calm consideration

of these cases by the committee. the second thing is that mr. fedor, what ms. iryna says, there are no spam edits, there, all the edits are adequate, and i am not ashamed of my edits, just like other colleagues. another thing, indeed, they repeat in many respects, because each other. because they are trying to correct certain systemic problem points there, relations with individuals, relations with, excuse me, the discussion today is methodological, is it a human reserve or not a human reserve, you know such nuances, relations with local self-government bodies , with enterprises, with others, it is not an easy bill, so i can see how fast it is moving, the only thing, mr. feder, at which point did you stop today, it seems to me... you should have passed more than half of it, yes, no, 1600, but 1600, well, still not bad, not bad, and i want to say once again, there is no disaster, spears are better.

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