well, sorry to interrupt you, but you know, it seems to me that for our, well , viewers, it is probably more important that these-34 can launch a missile there at a distance of 70 km, not a missile, but this planning aerial bomb, at a distance there 50-70 km, and whether the f-16 will shoot them down at these distances from the front line, remember the adjusted air bomb is incapable. well, theoretically , it is not capable of intercepting any, i mean the plane itself, when it is from the front, look at it , the plane itself has the latest modification, there was an f16, there was an integrated air-to-air missile of the average so-called average improved range of 120 emrams in the configuration there c7, if i am not mistaken, after that the action has already started, it has an effective range. against 120 km

, the f16 plane of european modernization has avionics that allows it and a radar station that allows it to see in the front hemisphere at a distance of 160-170 km, this is without any additional ground stations that can also allow it, for example, the same radar the anapq-53 that the patriot system uses, it goes much farther than the system does, the patriot system missile, and it can to exchange targeting with the same... takam f16, this is as an example, and yes, in theory, he should see him, and the m-120mr missile should intercept him even before he enters the zone of his launch, despite the fact that let's say , in the last, well, that is, in the last two weeks or so, the russians have already begun to fly even there to a distance of 35-50, not 50-70, but somewhat even closer, such distances are, let's say, working and... and at such distances he

has to compete like this, he has to knock them down, he has to, he will first see them, secondly knock them down, well should confuse, but practice, unfortunately , we will see only in the sky above our land, then , you know, a little more on the other side of the question, which is also quite often people ask like that, it is actually the russians with well, they just redesigned ordinary air bombs on the eye guided aerial bombs , and here is the question, why don't we do... the same thing, why don't we also use these aerial bombs, we don't have these aerial bombs, do we have nothing to drop them from, are there any other humanitarian reasons, of which we do not do this to the russians, to the russian trenches? well first of all, it is not entirely correct to say that they were reworked, they equipped them with a special module in the ipc, which is a classic aerial bomb, a high-explosive aerial bomb fap (25)

50, 500, 750, 100, 1500 and so on, because in the soviet union, if not i'm wrong, the nine-ton fab 900 was the heaviest, they equip it, in fact, just a bomb , they put a special glider with a correction system for steering and navigation, which actually turns it into a corrected air bomb, first of all, we also use corrected air bombs, but we use americans'. actually quite successful, it 's basically, well, let's say this, it's completely competitors, it 's a completely similar system, and that in principle, as i understand it, the western models, they're actually much more accurate, we use them, also laugh-29 , but i understand that they are not so powerful, not 500, it does not start from 500 there. begins

with the french, it is a 100% 250 kg combat unit, we have two american versions, it is 227 and 454, 454, well, it is a competitor with the fap-500, one and a half tons, well, no, no, the americans have they in general, if, well, they have different , let’s say, weapons samples will be able to fulfill the task of delivering such a powerful warhead, theoretically they have a french bomb... there is an improvement up to 1000 kg, but then again they have other means of impression , which can perform virtually the same function, and as for why we do not use, well , first of all, i am not sure that we have as many of these fabs left as russia has, because they did, because in they are armed with strategic bombers that drop all these bombs classic... with these carpet bombings,

by the way, the same thing that we saw during the storming of the mariupol siege, to which we did not have the means to get their strategic aircraft in any way, and lo... they just used their strategic aircraft carried out these carpet bombings, such as we saw there, you know, back in the days, probably the last time of the second world war, well, probably, yes, the second world war, and they have this stock, i understand that we simply do not have a stock of these bombs, and well, given that ours partners supply us with, let's say, more effective ammunition. that's why we use it, uh, well, now in the second half of the program, we 'll talk a little more about the front line, about banhmuth , the use of drones in military operations, but now we have to take a break, and let's

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we continue the chronicles of the war and i will remind you that it is very important at the front to have cars that constantly break down, because obstri'. get into different situations there, and now we are calling to join a very important collection of three four-wheel drive vehicles, these are powerful land cruisers for the aerial reconnaissance group. of the main intelligence department, a pickup for the 43rd separate artillery brigade and a refrigerator for the removal and transportation of fallen heroes, this is all we want to collect uah 900,000, please support our collection, any of your contributions will be very important and very necessary, you have an account number, you have a qr code, please join, this is a very important thing, and let's continue to... conversation on the air with andriy kramerov, and we were also joined by such a pharmacist, the commander

of the azgard strike group of the eye unit. greetings , mr. pharmacist. congratulations, i wish you health. tell us, you know, probably, at first a little bit , what is happening in your direct, i understand it, bakhmut direction, or? specifics and something, well, they are stopped, everything

is under the control of the armed forces. well, since you are, after all , engaged in drones, then probably some such conversations about the fact that there was a speech by one of your a colleague who said that in the near future the russians will go out there on some kind of such that literally every one of our fighters will have... a drone, then there appeared certain videos that the russians again distributed, how they increase production drones, how do you currently generally assess the saturation of the front with drones, and here is the ratio, i would say, the saturation of the front with drones is very dense, very dense on both sides, what is the enemy’s, what is ours, that is, i don’t... i think that there is now the opponent has some parity

regarding drones, there is also something else, i think that in my opinion we are a little ahead, not in quantity, but in quality, and this is great for us, mr. andriy, well, actually, we are talking about quality, well, as far as we are able to save this and... uh, as far as we are really capable, well, at least, not something that can't be lost, uh, this advantage of ours, this advantage of ours, where can we increase it, do you think, well, there is a lot depends on the fact that first of all, well, we are really making a lot of progress, i am not sure, i hope mr. herman, well, let's say this, will confirm my words that that we have thanks to the fact that, by the way, the private sector and volunteers, mostly in the first stages, let's say, financed the production perfectly. and here i am personally acquainted with several manufacturers, including there fpv drones, well, these are people who

, let’s say, are quite fanatical about it, not even like some entrepreneurial activity, they invest a lot in it, but serhiy sternenko yesterday i posted the first video, as the ukrainian first drone with, well, artificial intelligence, in fact, it is just a target capture system and further bringing the drone to the target without... mandatory control of the operator at the last stage, where it was clearly stated there when the connection itself already disappears, but at the same time the drone still seems to be there for 10 or 15 seconds in, let's say, it's own mode automatic mode in homing mode, if more correctly, in homing mode it already hits the target, and this is very good, we hope there is information that, for example, canada is interested in buying ukrainian fpv drones, there is a certain our development also in terms of combat

parts, this is very good, but at the same time it is not necessary, let's say so, to immediately throw our enemy off the scales, because that's what is good about our enemy, that they sometimes, they know how to replace quality with quantity, and a very large quantity, but in general, i think , which... especially over the last year there is a very big plus, well, let's be honest, that our guys, our fighters who use drones, they also, well on... but there are, no, probably they are the best in world, with the most experience, we hope that we will keep the same the pace, first of all, of evolution, technological evolution and improvement of our own drones of various types, and this will allow us to, say, interrupt even if the russians are really very actively scaling there, although this is also a very big question, because well, they

often do very effective inputs regarding their there ability to scale. in fact what concerns the technological production in them, especially new for them, there may always be some problems with this, but we hope that the pace of technological progress in our fpv drones and we will to preserve, further increase and develop , perhaps our manufacturers and foreign investments will also help us in this, this is very good, because it is the development of our domestic military industry, and well, in the future, nevertheless, nevertheless in... i believe for now, let's write it off completely, because, as mr. herman said, and as my comrades who are currently on the front line say, that we are indeed equal in terms of quantity, but in terms of quality , we still have an advantage , albeit a small one, but still , that's when we see these videos that you mentioned, when we flew there, yes lost touch at a certain moment, well, that is

, we have it, well, mr. herman, look, we have already started a little no... how to say about and and about production possibilities and about purchase possibilities, like now, what could you do in this regard, tell us, i.e., the peculiarities of the purchase, you are now mostly volunteer birds, do you have any, well, without specifying, of course, but there is some stable producer with whom you work, there is also a stable producer, with how we work, there is volunteer work, there is also uh... roughly speaking, there the ministry of defense, plus ksv, that is, there are drones coming from various sources, well, in this whole, in general, why do i say that there is a problem in and i always said that the problem is that it is, so to speak, a technological thing that very quickly

is developing, and if we purchase it , well, there will be drones, cool, everything is fine , well, if we purchase on such a scale, and we will lose this flexibility of ours, yes, that we can change something, something, well, adapt to , because it changes at the front, everyone is there, roughly speaking, there every two, two weeks, as it were something is changing, yes, new slaves, new means, as it were, defeating them, we have new means of defeating, that is, they are listening there. one frequency, it switches to another, that is, it is such a thing, it is constantly in dynamics, and therefore the fact that they will be bought, and it is obvious, today we already feel that the state is already buying them, and they are coming to us they arrive, everything

is fine, but if they will buy in very large batches, then there is such a thing... that maybe by the time they reach the army, they will be irrelevant, and it will have to be reworked in order to fight, ugh, such, such a story, this it it's interesting, it's interesting, that is, i understand that something has already reached you from those state programs, but somehow you would not see the need to scale this state program so much, so much, yes, yes, i understood you correctly, no, look , it is possible, well, you know that at the moment there is a new ritvoysk by order of the president, yes, that’s great, cool, i think it’s great, well, there’s one thing, well, i think it will happen, but we need people who will at least be there to advise this new

kind of army to make it cool, that there should be people from units who are on active duty. they have been working with these drones for a year and a half already, they understand how it all changes, in which direction, that is, they know these dynamics, they know the tactics of using these drones, and then it will be, i think it will be, well, i probably just hope for that's why i'm not saying that it doesn't need to be done there centrally, it's good that these drones are relevant now, but i'm saying that... it will happen that they, well, they will cease to exist, when large parties, they will cease to exist be relevant, and that you need them there, well, i don't know, that is, of course, there are motors, a frame. everything else is there , it won't go anywhere, yes, and roughly speaking, there is a connection and everything else, it can change, and it must be understood simply, well, it's

generally like this, you know, the task seems to me, with an asterisk, because it is okay to mass-produce and produce in large quantities with a motor frame, but what you say is some very necessary flexibility, mr. andriy, but how exactly will this be provided? here needs reforming and improvement, first of all our legislation on procurement by the ministry of defense for the army, why? because here i am as an example, well there, for example , the united states of america, here they can prescribe you, mr. herman will understand me, there is a very clear specification, modification, and here, for example, to say, we buy them for 100 00, to us well, you don't need them, they will be produced for six months, so are they their current modification or not? a certain type of modernization, it will cease to be relevant, so it is good that the state gives, let's say, a message and a guarantee, it says: we are ready to purchase a million

drones, but it is necessary, for example, to say that even one and the same drone model does not need to be very clearly labeled with its characteristics, it can be one model, but, for example, in january, version 1:0 will arrive in the army, already in december there will be version 12:0, that is, it is a drone, in a year it will be purchased, it will be like this , for example, very roughly speaking, it will undergo 12 modernizations, a certain one of its models will receive, it will have 12 modifications, it is good that the state , let's say, sends a message to manufacturers that they can count on such a volume purchases, accordingly , from this further understand how much they can invest in production, expand it, and another model, what to move away from this one, that's a lot about it. they say, it does not only apply to drones or uavs, well, let’s say this, it also applies to such a conditionally somewhat rigid procurement system, which does not give

high-tech weapons the flexibility to purchase them, because the manufacturer can make a new modification, in it simply, for example, the ministry of defense will not accept, because it will say that it is different tactical and technical characteristics, from what they had in the state order or in the tender. well, yes, it's important, because... the people who are responsible for it, they also don't want to sit down because they bought something that wasn't written somewhere, but we understand that from approval to direct purchase, well, 5 months pass, that is, i also support mr. herman very much in the fact that it is mandatory, it is simply mandatory, that they should be under the ministry of defense, for example, or in this new kind of thing. can be created just there under his command, a certain group that will necessarily consult the ministry of defense, or even establish

communication somewhere between the ministry of defense, manufacturers, it will be a three-way story in order for the army to really, well, we, unfortunately, we have a rather limited monetary resource in order to use it correctly, and in order to purchase exactly what the fighters need, and not what will go there, well... in the best case for spare parts, well, look, about a thousand drones, we know, but there is a reverse side of this story, which is called radio -electronic warfare and the program there, i don’t know, not a thousand drones, a million, millions of some kind of trenches there, we haven’t heard anything, is it supposed to be the same story, mr. herman , how should it be, well, how to work with it, because it is also relevant, well, actually, well, it is... relevant, well, to say that i can't say that we don't have enough there, isn't it , that it is not enough that we don't have rebs or whatever, they are there, they

work and work well in different brigades, in different bands, that is, the guys should develop, well, again, it should be a synergy, yes, uh, our direction, i mean bpla drums. scouts , if there is no interaction with the units of the rap, you simply lose your sides, if you do not have interaction with the intelligence, you too, if you just lose your sides, that is, the synergy of intelligence of the reb, rer and shock bpol, it does not matter how big, small, there loved ones, that is, if this is what the entire interaction requires. but everything is fine. well, mr. herman, you know, also, if you look at all this, well, at, at, at our capacity, there, starting from the 14th year,

at one time. greatly improved the quality of artillery work in general, that is, the creation of the nettle system and the integration of many units there, perhaps it is worth talking about the integration of the entire system, as well as unmanned systems of some kind and everyone who works with it, maybe it should be a different system, what are you with in this regard, you think how realistic this story is in general, well, today the units work differently. themes such as nettles, eyes, delta, that is, a tower, as it were today there is a wide range of these tools, some are better in one aspect, others are better in another aspect, but we uh take what if gives us maximum information and interaction with other

units, that is... if one the tool does not give, we take the second one, if we can currently use three or four of them in order to, because different units, again, work with different systems with different systems, so we have to be flexible in this matter again, and it develops there, develops normally, absolutely, we have, as it were, management. uh, fire and interaction, everything is, that is, yes, there , it should improve, if all this, well , i see that it is improving, and the interaction is improving, well, mr. andriy, but look, the language is now, mr. herman said yes, about several options, and such a system, and such, and such, well, it's still the same, just, well, as if it's too much, does it even make sense to reduce it all to some kind of one system where

everyone would be. you know, if mr. german, who is right now and says that it works, it develops, it works, it allows, different systems allow, provided a certain assessment of the combat situation, to understand which system, or provided you understand with whom you have to cooperate and communicate, to use the best tool for this, there is no need to engage in sovietism, it seems to me , why not... make such a big salad, cram everything into one, while it will not work as efficiently as possible in any of the types of situations, and well, such a system is serious, the only thing i would like to add, for example, is that the trench soldiers , so it's actually very it is important, but nevertheless trench reb is something that, let's say, should work in a certain situation, it should work like that... it is also

certain that in our country, it might be appropriate to make it, including a subdivision of this of the newly created type of troops, these are troops that deal with uavs, drones, which, on the example of our enemy, in which since 2008 there have been separate so-called radio electronic warfare troops, and also in parallel with the development of ukopreb, it is necessary to also deal with well let's say bigger ones of another level. there not only trench rap is a tactical level, after all, but it is also worth dealing with the development of systems, after all, at the operational-tactical level, which will allow, well, a wider range of tasks to be performed than exclusively trench rap. thank you, thank you, gentlemen , for joining us, thank you andriy kramerov, an officer of the air force reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, and thank you herman, also a pharmacist, the commander of the strike group of the azgard unit of the ochi unit, i remind you

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