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oleg hrybachuk, former head of the president's secretariat viktor, will be working on the tv channel now. yushchenko, co-founder of the chesno movement. glory to ukraine, mr. oleg. i congratulate you. glory to heroes, death to enemies. well, two key tracks: the so-called swiss track, when we talk about working out the so-called peace formula, and the beijing-moscow one. and we see that these are some parallel worlds or parallel lines. they currently do not overlap. but there was an extremely important visit of president zelensky to recep tayyip erdogan, to turkey. yes, we understand that the president. erdogan also has

certain initiatives, putin's visit to turkey was also expected there, and it was postponed, postponed, well, as i understand it, now that he will not be reassigned, although there is no cancellation of this visit, well, that is certain aggravation, cyclicality is certain , in these conversations around the end of the war, around the need for peace talks, in fact for two years... this situation has arisen from time to time, now it is somehow exacerbated for several reasons, first of all, somehow the whole community has already agreed , that the war will not end this year, that it will most likely be postponed at least until next year, that this year a lot will be determined by the military, successes, failures, there will be a breakthrough of the russian forces, there will be no breakthrough. forces,

how the elections in the united states will end and in the european parliament, that is , this year is kind of like a transitional one, you don’t want to call it, intermediate, yes, and on the basis of what this year will end with, certain strategies are being built, and we constantly hear talks about peace from russia, they were quite actively present when putin gave... his next boring speech, now his tone has become much more aggressive, he is practically there during this finish line of his reassignment , he is simply talking about what and what is this we from whom is this baduna, we will now stop the actions there, what do we have anyway, because the ukrainians have run out of ammunition, we have to stop there before we can start negotiations. that is, he

has sharply radicalized, and on the basis of his statements it is very difficult to talk about a desire, because he used to repeat this mantra that we were always for peace, we offered, and there is a decree of president zelensky, which prohibits putin with me to talk, meaning he's gone into this phase that just pretty much doesn't allow anyone to speak up as a mediator, somehow... to rely on putin's position, because the phrases that you and i hear that no peace can be achieved, if there can be no peace conference, if russia is not there, well, now it is obvious that russia is not even interested in this, but this does not mean at all that such leaders there as erdogan or such countries as china, they will not try to eat away their status as an intermediary, because this is a very advantageous status e

. strongly advantageous, attracts attention, erdoğan in general, he already understands that he stepped on this pedestal for the last time, he would like to somehow write his name in history, and that's why ... this escalation is happening right now, although our position, well, as far as i'm concerned, is quite clear and understandable, we say that it is necessary to talk about peace when putin wants to talk about it, but if he does not want to talk about it, then we have among ourselves, the democratic camp must agree on a position among themselves, and then invite putin and put for his information, somewhere approximately such nasti. now dominate, well, it also happened exceptionally the important voyage of the special representative of the people's republic of china lihui, so lihui, so to speak, collected information mostly in different capitals, accordingly xijin ping carried out a reconciliation

of the information received, and so china will come to switzerland as an observer, and here is the question, how active or passive china will be, and in general, the coincidence or non-coincidence of the positions of the republic of china and the russian empire in the matter of the deployment and escalation of the war. china's position has not changed in principle, and a lot observers say that this visit , well, it was, well , to put it mildly, about nothing, did not offer anything new, as you rightly said, he was there listening to some initiatives or some larger interpretation of this chinese peace plan, these 12 of steps, in which there is one... one step we were most interested in is the recognition of sovereignty and inviolability of state borders, after which we could talk about a lot, but this visit did not increase any pressure on russia, it did not offer any new initiatives, and answering the questions,

what is china's position, well, china basically repeats the same phrase, but when you analyze its actions, you understand that it is actually really profitable. the fact that the war continues and the war weakens its main opponents on the world stage, the united states, russia, and the europeans, because ukraine is not, well, for china it is not, not the same scale, not the size, not the influence , china personally or individually does not pay attention to ukraine, and that is why when our journalists are there. tried somehow or whether our experts tried to interpret the importance of the visit of the chinese leader to kyiv, no, they do not consider kyiv as an independent player, but it is already a well-recognized fact that the world has clearly understood that russia is, to put it mildly,

a junior partner of china, and not russia, but china determines the geopolitical goals, er, what to strive for, what conditions... insert, that is, china is the elder brother of these in this situation, and in principle nothing has changed here, ideologically it is important for china that russia does not disappear, that it weakens, but that she was. the key story here is resourcefulness, our resourcefulness, the resourcefulness of our allies, so to speak, let's try to separate the wheat from the chaff now, that is, on the one hand, on a certain rhetorical level, everything is fine, but understand... that money is not all good, so we don't know how we are now will be led by the united states, and the issues of equipment, ammunition, weapons, and so on, but president macron is now ready to try on the imperial confederate, well , i am being ironic, of course, but extremely harshly and

specifically, president macron went with the words that in your opinion, this can mean in practice, and just macron, well, as a political animal, he... heard this possibility, because formally, well, in numbers, the largest donor of ukraine is germany and scholz, who there simply called on all european partners to significantly to increase aid, the eight billion that we received from germany is now the largest contribution, but scholz has lost sight of taurosa, and politically we see that the opposition is pressing on him from all... sides, it is very difficult for him to explain, and why actually no, and the main thing is that scholz does not have these personal traits, and probably the desire to be, well, as you said, an emperor or even an emperor, while macron has it, but for macron, what is also important

is that both scholz and macron competed to see who was longer will talk with putin and who will conduct more visits. phone calls and everyone tried to explain, they tried to explain to the world that in fact russia is not a threat, that you can talk to putin, i have a feeling that the transformation that happened with macron is, in particular,... implementation by macron how much he's been used by putin and what an idiotic world he looks like right now to any world leader out there because it's through macron that putin has been sending these beliefs that he will never attack, well all you know and i i think that macron still had such a human touch, he, he hoped , it seemed to him that they had established a relationship, that they had a warm, trusting relationship there, well, in fact, in the french language there is also you, and they were nat. with putin, and macron demonstrated this in every possible way, what is happening now

it is very important for us because macron has said several fundamental things, i like his phrase the most that russia, aggressive russia in the form in which it exists, must cease to exist, that is, it must disappear, well that is very cool fla, but this would involve the allocation of, i don't know, several squadrons. aviation, this would involve the allocation of some additional missile systems, the same, i don’t know, patriots or their analogues, well, put the whole thing at the industrial level, forgive me, and instead we hear about the potential and so to talk about the possible prospects of the foreign contingent, we must say that again, well , at first we thought that macron was just getting hot, but he said that out of spite. and what's next, there will be refutations, and instead of refutations, phrases

like that every word has been verified, we have a plan, mr. fix, and we are now moving towards this plan, that is, macron held internal french consultations there, very clearly set a very the uncomfortable situation of putin's political supporters, because you are now forced to justify yourself, leads through the parliament actually ratification. of this agreement announces his visit, but the most interesting thing to me is that other european leaders began to respond to his initiative, and a nucleus is being formed among nato countries, there are cautious ones, there are those who are active in words, and there are countries ready to act, this as the president of the nordic countries, the balts, tells us, and macron just touched it somewhere, because these consultations are going on there now. and the europeans, well , we just have to note, these changes are unheard of,

these nato maneuvers are the first military ones, there will be a contingent, mr. olezh, do you believe in that the french will send a contingent , is it possible that the french plus, estonia, lithuania, latvia, maybe there, i don't know, finland or someone else, if you remember what macron talked about, that is, he talked about what if the russians break through the line. and there is such a threat and putin has such a hope that there are no weapons, they now have such a free space, walk the field, where they can choose some weak chains to probe, and if there is such a threat that this arava goes there, as macron said, to kyiv or odesa, that then they will enter, it seems, well, first of all, the probability such a scenario is not very high, but... the statement about the readiness to be on the territory of ukraine was made, it sounds there, politicians

are careful to talk about it, but previously it was forbidden to talk about it at all, in other words, if the poles conditionally see that this arava is pushed into side of poland, the poles are already openly saying that they will be ready to defend on this side of the border, so this is a hypothetical situation, but in short... a short conclusion is that yes, if russia simply starts to covertly implement this scenario of the full, full occupation of ukraine, then part of the allies will be ready to send their troops, well , maybe we should also somehow adjust our legislation, so we understand that our legislation still needs very significant changes in this regard, yes, well, accordingly there should be some decisions and signals from our side, well... if macron tells us this, then we also have to voice something,

but it was already heard, or am i wrong, it seems to me that zelensky said that yes, that we will welcome the presence troops of the allies on the territory of ukraine, it is some kind the political statement, in my opinion, was already such, but you are right in the sense that it needs to be supported by the decisions of the parliament, but we have a very, very sad picture with the parliament, in our eyes, it is just somewhere with you... is eliminated, as our poor neighbors say, and according to the laws on mobilization in general at such a critical moment. branches of power is very felt, but this tells me that if necessary, they will solve all this very quickly there by the decision of the president's office, but you are right, before that need to prepare parliament, by the way, and what do you think is happening with the parliament, yes, well, there were certain insiders regarding the meeting of president zelensky with his largest parliamentary faction, yes, well

, some representatives of the servant of the people did not fully understand what the policy of the central office is. so with regard to what and how will unfold with our parliament, your versions, why are they so actively trying to publicly, not publicly, but somehow to subvert the parliament, well, because it is a legitimate authority, yes, and this is a key insurance story, that is, it is a key insurance platform for political stabilization in the event of something, and at any decisive moment, that is, even the moment we just hypothetically spoke about, it was precisely at such moments that the parliament manifested itself, when the president fled there... yanukovych, when there were situations where the fate of ukraine there depended on the effectiveness of some institution, this institution has always been the parliament, now this meeting that you are talking about, the president with the parliament, there with a monomajority, that’s right, a monomajority, but the deputies mostly came out not satisfied,

first of all, it was not a conversation, the president was not at all going to listen to some... opinions of the deputies, he just gave them a lecture and sometimes switched to a high, high tone, and therefore, this is not at all what the parliamentarians hoped for , we thought that now we will sit down and talk about what is right and what is wrong, because it is obvious that the demotivation of people's deputies, who are already collecting mandates in bundles, this postponement, for example, of parliamentary sessions or the postponement of a committee, is caused by the fact that there is no banal... stupidly no authority there are simply not enough votes, there are simply no deputies at all, morale is at zero there, because they do not influence anything, those who came to earn money cannot earn it, those who thought they could, they cannot influence somehow politically, they don't influence anything, they don't influence the government, and they are not listened to at all by the president's office, so in this sense there is a huge

crisis with the parliament, it could do quite a lot, and this is its function. basically, but the president doesn't care about it, the president's task was to charge them there, to motivate, search for, put in line, and they have no desire to stand in line at all, and therefore it is a matter of the president's misunderstanding of public administration in general, here he is on these five or six of his advisers, he is on these five or six and continues to build a strategy, although it is already practical... it is becoming clear to everyone that we will not make progress on these strategies, neither with the european union, which is extremely important to us now, nor with the preparation of anything, or this swiss e-e conference on peace, this is foreign policy, are we going to, are we talking about the beginning of the negotiations on the acquisition of membership in the european union, when the sectoral negotiations will take place, that is where you do not go, what you do not

undertake, this formula of managing the country with six advisers, it... does not give results and cannot produce these results, allies are needed, and when the topic of rearranging the chairs in the government, reducing the number of ministries, changing the name of the minister or the prime minister, it doesn't change anything either, it's just a desire, well, to imitate activity, but it will be the same office of the president again to rearrange the chairs, change people, look, where did the idea come from right now to take and rearrange the chairs, well, what, that is, not a year ago, not two years ago. and therefore, that is, well, the government of national unity , as far as i understand, was rejected in the office of the president, yes, well, but that’s where it starts , you know, we start pouring the ministry, shortening and so on and so on, so what, that is why exactly at this moment, yes, because it is sinking, first of all, well, we mentioned it there somewhere industrious, including industrious, or the industrious factor also worked here, because

they mentioned industrious no, well, i think that it was just such a vivid manifestation of lack of... thoughtfulness and threats to this formula of state management that zelensky holds, so that this is also basically about reshuffles , zaluzhny was taken away, his entire team was changed, but they follow public sentiments very carefully, the sentiments show that trust is falling, support is falling, and we need to look for some options, trust in the government is low there, to the parliament is low and gentlemen, to the president himself... began to rise and there are no results, so someone must be responsible, no, no, no, no, it is not the office of the president who should be responsible, it must be shown that look, it is you.. we don't have such a number of ministries, there are too many of them, and something like that, but this is very funny to me, because in my history, and i well remember

the history of the establishment of independent ukraine , there were a lot of such campaigns, but after the orange revolution in roman bezsmertnyi was our vice-premier, he actually worked administrative reform and consolidation, i well remember his office there was full of cards, everything was correct, but everything did not give the same result, because in principle it does not change anything, that instead of four ministries there will be two, but the principle is always preserved, who was there before, personnel, if you are close to the king, the one who is on the throne, yes, the bigger you are, the more authority you have, but avakov was, my god, this is a super phenomenon, he was a super minister, he recruited so much self-authorization, there in zelenskyi kubrakov is apparently popular , which means that some ministry becomes above the ministry, but it is not about efficiency, not about... orientation towards changes and certainly not about european integration in the sense of state management, because for european integration , a strong parliament is the basis, the basis, which

keeps the government accountable, and the government bears all responsibility for the implementation of economic policy, we still have all this mixed up, but the main reason is that we need to shift attention to someone, we need to look for extreme scapegoats we never had a shortage of suctails, goats, suctails, so in case of need, we always found... we found, so to speak, a weight on our feet and reset, so to speak, a certain cycle, it is more difficult here, yes, because some such powerful there are no lightning rods, and here we return to the possible end of the epic with the former head general zaluzhny, yes, that is, britain, well, if we take real ukrainian politics, then for politicians, or , well, zaluzhny is not a politician, for officials of such a high scale, well, it was the first the offer is always, that's what i... offered, when i resigned, it is there at the choice of the embassy of the united states, the european union, or its first deputy

minister of foreign affairs with the prospect of promotion, i.e. diplomatically, well, i understood this for myself, because in principle i spent many years abroad , it was somewhere close to me, but precisely because of what i understood, i categorically refused, in the situation of a servant, well, it would seem that the best thing that could be done is ... somehow use the powerful knowledge of this person, his commands to to achieve victory, because the goal of the brave has always been victory over the enemy, but here we rely on a good ukrainian tradition, a good ukrainian tradition says that if you are fired from your position, whether you were there in the national bank, or you were there, well, from any the institution you headed, especially this is very characteristic of the ministry of foreign affairs, because our foreign ministers change quite a lot, which means that you never get more access there after resignation or the opportunity to influence any decision, in the army it is still it is even brighter, in zaluzhno

the situation is more complicated by the fact that this is the new head of state, this is his deputy, that is , there were no options, because many of your colleagues asked me, well, why not use his experience, he is real, he was awarded a hero, that is, he is the president recognized that this is extraordinary, extremely talented there militarily. a military person, so it seems that his expertise should be used in order to strengthen the institution, but i know former heads of the security service of ukraine, ex-ministers of occult affairs, who directly they say that you are formally put in the reserve , well, the reserve is like a reservation, and you will never be allowed to take a step, you will be, for example, an adviser to the president, but you will never see that president again, so take zaluzhny's place , he is a young man on the move. marks, he needs to put his strength somewhere, he simply cannot do anything, create something there, some kind of public, or he was advised some center there, well, it is obvious that it is not entirely his, because it is such

a public activity, it is very close to political, we do not know him about political, and most likely this was one of the factors why he decided to accept the position of diplomat, but i will repeat what i have already said, for example, for roman bezsmertny , the position of diplomat in... she added minsk , made him several orders of magnitude more interesting , he was very well versed in ukrainian politics, well, since he was 26 years old in the parliament, and he was there for several years, and i paid attention, and i can say this again, that for a person, which, you know, is well-informed within ukraine as a person, zaluzhliy knows military affairs there very well, but for him, as an individual, this school is probably the most interesting. the position of the ambassador is of great britain , because it is the commonwealths, it is 56 countries of the commonwealth, in my opinion, which are all present there, these are the tables london is the capital, where the most...

but the ambassador has authority when he has direct access to the supreme body , and when the supreme intelligence, so to speak, reacts to certain messages from the ambassador, if there is no connection, you know, if there is no chemistry communicative or something, well, the ambassador , yes, the person who will occupy the premises of our embassy in london, so here, this is the key challenge, this is absolutely on this, this is what... the effectiveness or ineffectiveness of the stay of the employee absolutely depends on in britain, but for example, well, if someone there has at least some kind of credit on the bank account, then this is the stupidest thing to do, because the hardworking is, well, it is such a portal for dramatically increasing understanding in the west, support, explaining in after all, what

is happening is a brand with a biography and a brand, who is based on a certain legend among the military, this is not the last thing, and that is why he will receive a lot of attention, not only even as an ambassador, well, we did not have him, i must say honestly, we had many political appointments, but in the history of independent ukraine , we have not appointed such, such a large-scale personality as ambassadors, it is much higher than a minister, it is much higher than the former minister of foreign affairs, let's be honest, because it is a global brand, and therefore... if this brand is just so stupidly used, well, it's a mistake for which not you can forgive yourself, i think, i really hope that zelenskyi understands this, but here it is a question of personalities, since the ukrainian press said that they started quarreling there at the last stakes just after 5 minutes, so will zelenskyi be able to step over this moment and even if it's not a question...

just communication, well, conditionally, how do diplomats work, you can't, as a diplomat, there, you can't even become a minister, some diplomats there have several degrees, you know , curators who decide there, to connect you higher or not, the zaluzhny will of course have the status of an extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador and he should have the authority to act in accordance with that status, how this matter is resolved, i think that here at the level of the minister of foreign affairs on the ... there will probably be no jealousy , because it seems that he is not such a person, but will yermak be there, not even zelensky in the first place, will irmak miss it, or will zelensky be able to hear and even there it is possible to disagree, but to perceive information or something the signals that will be sent by the gland, a lot depends on this, in principle , britain played an unprecedented role in

supporting ukraine, and there i was... they had six months as an ambassador, now, that would be, well, huge stupidity, i just don’t know what other words to describe, the scenario when these personal ambitions, or some grievances, non-acceptance, can interfere with the effectiveness of the ambassador's work in london at such a decisive time for ukraine, especially on the eve of the elections there in the united states, because britain has always had its own special relations with the states there, that is, it global such a key position, well, it is probably the most important, and we have such a diplomatic outpost in the world right now at such a difficult moment, and a person with an extremely high reputation, both in britain and in the world, got into this position , that's why i really hope, i just don't know in what words to convey this information, that you can't just marinate such an opportunity now, thank you very much, mr. oleg, for this extremely interesting and meaningful conversation,

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