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thousand in our account, and this will be enough for us to buy two cars for our defenders. mr. taras, we congratulate you, we are glad to see you, the teaser for... the film for your film about the house of the word, a famous building, although about which ukrainians still know little, actually, what do ukrainians know, in which in connection with the full-scale invasion grew interest in one's own culture, in one's own literature, and many of them are only now learning about the writers of the renaissance that was shot, how great... on whom the word lived in that very house? i hope that the audience will enjoy watching the film, will get a certain context of the 20s and 30s of kharkov, which was then

the epicenter of culture, art, literature, music, it will be such a journey into the history of ukraine, into its past, into her ashes the age of the dawn of art, the ukrainian avant-garde, the viewer will see the story of mykola khvylovy, mykhailo semenko, raisa troyanker, pavlo tychyna and many, many other writers and poets. i hope that this story is now very necessary for ukrainians who need a certain, certain support on their history, on their culture, on their, on their... past, in order to understand who we are and where we come from , where we are going, and what we are fighting for. well, actually, we almost didn't have, i don't know, maybe you can correct me, such films that would show that day of the soviet period, when soviet

propaganda was active, which rewrote our history, which silenced our literature, and that, in this way we will be able to return to the 20s and 30s. what will ukrainians learn about that time, which was the time for ukrainian writers, whose names were deleted from the school curriculum of ukrainian literature for a long time, deleted for a long time, in principle, their books were not on the shelves of our bookstores, they began to return only in the 90s, but that's all, i don't know, for example, i remember my school years, only some teachers, knowing about these writers, started... children to give these books, and it was such extracurricular reading, these books were not there, ivan baglyany was not in the school literature program. yes, now there is such a split in the fact that the slightly older generation knows practically nothing, because there was a certain vacuum in

the school curriculum and in general these surnames were kept silent. and on the other hand, now young people are very interested in these names and... and search and find, and here is this symbiosis of people who do not know and which people, people who admire, they think it will be very an interesting combination of the audience, that's it... there were similar films, well, first there was the documentary house of the word, which was released in 17th year, there were from the feature films of oles stanin povadyr, which covers this era, but house of the word an endless novel , i believe that this is a unique work in principle, because this is the first time that our film turns to the workshop of poets, to... not novelists, writers, and actually to the pre-readers

, the names that they saw in textbooks, as some simple characters, will appear for the first time described in the textbook, but now it will be living people with their weaknesses and theirs, with their talent and with their lives. we can see this interest in this period of ukrainian history right now. of literature in kharkiv, for example, i don’t know, maybe they already removed it from their menu, because it was a little bit, they probably wanted to show creativity, but they showed some of their ignorance, actually the history of ukrainian literature and called one cocktail shot revival, this is one example interest, yes, it somehow does not fit in my head, well, but i think that maybe... maybe indignant people who know a little about ukrainian literature came to them there and explained that it is not the best

naming for dishes and drinks. on the other hand, we saw such a youth project called moore, which also tells about this day in a poetic form, and i know that they used footage from your artistic tape, have you seen or listened to this project? how do you like him, considering the fact that you are a person who also shot a documentary about the house of the word, then also shot a feature film, and very well 100% you know this era and those people, those writers who were then contemporaries of that era. in my opinion, the muriv project is a rap opera, it seems to me that it is an absolutely successful communication with young people, and it is incredible. the number of people who have watched it is simply off the scale, and it seems to me that this is

a powerful turn in general towards mass culture and a return to youth in general, there are some things that are not objectionable, a little uh, a little, it would seem to me, could be done more is better, but this is the mass effect that it caused, i think it is deserves attention, in addition, our story with moore developed in such a way that the director of the montage of the video was oleksandr khomenko, who was actually the inspiration of moore, he is from the time of the document of the house from the time of the documentary the word house caught fire with the theme of the shot revival and asked the producers for permission to use this footage from our film , the producers are not... you are against it, and actually the fact that what came out is actually such a cooperation with

the audience of oleksandr murivska, and now the teaser, our video is gaining an incredible amount there are views in a few days on their platform, in general, i think the more people will talk, know and young people will be interested in this, the better, because it is very difficult to return information on this topic. on the field is extremely difficult, because i remember myself when i started to build a house 10 years ago, in principle, no one understood what i was talking about when i told people, well, some people are simply selected, who understood what in literature there from my circle, and in general these are people who did not know at all and they thought that i was shooting a film about some residential housing cooperative or residential block of the house of words residential complex, and it was very funny. oh, but the fact that the house of the word is now returning to become a trend, yes, i do,

something i saw information that it became the house of the word, entered the top 20 ukrainian trends, but i think that this is a small merit in this mine, and if young people will be interested in ukrainian literature, study , read, rap operas, rock operas, reevaluate as you like, pass through all this literature that has been around for a long time, then it will be very... cool actually. if not for the youth, and for those people who were actually born during the soviet union, went to school, as you say that... many of your acquaintances said that they thought that you were making a tape about some apartment complex called the house- word, what can the writers of that time be interesting for ukrainians, even for present-day ukrainians? you know, the film will be interesting first of all, because it has everything that should be there for a successful film, although the paradox is that i, well, i

am not a commercial director, i had no idea, that it will be a commercial film, because i made a film for... myself, but when i found out, the producer said, we congratulate you, you made an audience picture, and this picture has everything, there is a love line, a detective line, and an artistic line, and there is such and such a set, which is required for the audience, and i hope that the film will be a success and will find a piece of itself in the heart of every viewer. if it wasn't for the full-scale invasion, you started shooting this movie before the full-scale invasion, right? yes, yes, as you think, if not for a full-scale invasion, or not would this tape have yet to be released, but is already interested in it, would it have such success? well, let's see about the success when the film will be released from may 9, and i don't

know, it's hard for me to say, because there were times of covid, if we remember that it is so. there was such a disease, here, and that's why too, i think it's telling, if the movie is coming out now, i think it's uh, it's very timely, it's extremely relevant now, because i don't want to spoil it, but there are so many things, which will now respond to the viewer and, let's say, personally of our antagonist volodymyr volodymyrovych akimov, and in general, an incredible... acting ensemble, filming , incredible ukrainian actors starred there, just finds, and incredible work and cinematography by mykhailo lyubarskyi and incredible music, but zagaykevich and shavket’s incredible scenery, i think that everything it is made with great love, and it is not for nothing that we worked on this project for 10

years, i think that our work should be appreciated, well, we are waiting for the ninth. may is not because it is may 9, which is celebrated in russia as victory day, and because it will be the premiere of a feature film, a word about the house , a famous house where ukrainian writers lived, who were settled there and who were monitored by the soviet authorities, and this house, after all, ivan bagryanyi, one of the writers of the era of the shooting revival, called the house a crematorium, because from there they were taken either to be shot or to some camps. mr. taras, thank you. for the conversation and for the tape in advance taras tomenko, director of the film house is an endless word roman was in touch with us, dear friends, i want to thank you, us and you, you managed to do it in the first place, we did collect 600,000 and even passed this mark, so we have already started collecting for the third car,

uah 63,397, 19 kopecks are in our account, 33% uah 97, this is actually for the third car , so we thank everyone who contributed their hryvnias , for today we collected a total of uah 96,000. we still have several hundred thousand hryvnias ahead of us, less than 300, in fact, we need to collect, so we are not slowing down, we are not stopping at these meetings, but we are incredibly grateful to each of you. lesya vakulyuk, andriy saichuk, in this studio, we... worked for you, we will see you tomorrow at 8:10, turn on the espresso, and don't turn off the espresso just now, because the air continues, and next you will see the speech of maryana budzharyn, a researcher from harvard university on kyiv security forum.

our panel will focus on negotiation issues. negotiations in the context of the current war. i think we can quickly end our conversation if we are honest in our assessments. and we hear calls for negotiations. mr. ishenger, chairman of the munich conference, just before ours began of the conference mentioned something like minsk-3.

not so long ago, we heard the words of the pope about the courage of ukraine to raise the white flag, for some reason he meant ukraine, not russia. anyhow . yes, we will talk about negotiations, the time will come, what will be the conditions, what will be the prerequisites, the conditions, even for starting such negotiations. i will turn to ambassador volkar, who joined us online, you participated in the first phase of negotiations after the first phase of the war. what wise words did you give us after the first round of negotiations?

what do you say thank you, it's a pity that i cannot join you in kyiv. by the way, i was in the capital two weeks ago, i am currently in lithuania addressing local parliamentarians. there are two smart things to start a negotiation. the first is the goal itself. i always thought that negotiations should be conducted according to some rules. the first thing is to know what you want. this is important before you sit down at the negotiating table. what do you want to achieve? the second is what the opposing side wants. it does not always coincide with them. words you must know for yourself what they are trying to achieve, and thirdly, to change the very atmosphere of negotiations, what are the realities

on the battlefield, what are the realities on the battlefield of information warfare, fourth, do not think that you will achieve the result, first, maybe if you even achieved your goal without an agreement, you have already re... and n yes, maybe you really need to evaluate what you have achieved, you should always be on the alert. right now, at that stage, it all boils down to the third point that i mentioned, change the general atmosphere, my experience from '17 to '19 says that first of all in the negotiations, and that applies today the situation this is an aspect of ensuring that the world clearly understands that ukraine wants peace, that

ukraine is a victim of aggression, that russia is an aggressor who is trying to get here through a war of aggression, and that the russian federation of ukraine has no plans to seize russian territory. such clarity is very important, for example, at the first briefing, when i was a special representative of the us government for ukraine, i showed my colleagues a map of ukraine, i invented such an english acronym. and i asked people, what do you think these letters mean? i meant them that these are territories that are not under the control of the ukrainian state. i told them, this is only a descriptive translation, in fact it means territories occupied by russia, the acronym does not mean anything, these words are territories not under

ukrainian control, empty words, fact is fact, this is a territory that is occupied and controlled by russia, the first thing you can achieve, clarity, friend, it's mobiles. tion of world thought. today, there are many countries that are waiting, they say, it is far away. russia, maybe the aggressor, maybe ukraine and the victim, but what does it have to do with us. starting negotiations in a format where many countries are just watching from afar or acting as mediators will help you mobilize public opinion. public opinion must understand that in fact russia has violated international rules, international norms regarding genocide, rules. waging war and so on,

it is possible to build such a global opinion. the third is that it is possible to combine the position of ukraine, its goals to connect them with two points of the un charter. the president of ukraine speaks very well and eloquently. he emphasizes that the ukrainian position. is inscribed in international law, he has the right to it, and we must use it, we must speak about it clearly and openly. i also talked about this in the just war system, the just war doctrine. we have just mentioned the words to the pope of rome, the pope of rome is said to say that ukraine must gather courage and raise the white flag. it

is not about this courage, he is talking, they say, about a peaceful future, it will bring good to all parties, it is about proportionality. russia violently violated all the rules of a just war. the catholic church must clearly and unequivocally state and demand that russia stop this war of aggression. so, to use the negotiations as a... a means of promoting the idea that russia is violating fundamental international agreements, and also helping ukraine to win, and the last question, what if, if russia withdrew from ukraine, what would happen if peace came, when russia will come out with the ukrainian territory, these ideas must be lost, repeated, if you... here

if you succeed, you will force people to think about a positive future, to lose this idea, if russia stopped the war today and withdrew from ukrainian territory. i understand that the audience gathered today is quite authoritative, i will be happy to listen to my colleagues on our panel. thank you, mr. ambassador volker, for... you have so clearly described the possibilities at this stage and in this case, which i think is important, it is important to convey the idea to the world public, the idea that ukraine can win, so the negotiations are starting that from the position that ukraine is facing a huge, powerful enemy,

maybe it should be stopped... today , before ukraine loses even more people, but you heard colleagues in the previous panel who said that russia is opposed by the world public , which is stronger, but russian soldiers, seven to one at the front. ms. olena zerkal, i would like to hear your opinion regarding the negotiations, the key points, which in the end... especially should be the subject of consideration. i have a lot of experience in negotiations with by russians it's a pity, but i have to say that all the acceptable ways of negotiating with russian have no reality. you are not talking to representatives. you are talking to putin. this team you are talking to only.

embodies his decision, and this is a pure waste of time , this is the lesson i learned, because we talked for hours and hours with the russians about gas supplies, before the winter of 2014, trade issues, other issues, and everywhere the situation was the same, they play games, their... main ideas were imposed on them by putin, and putin quite consistent in his words , you have to learn to listen to him, he talks convincingly about the war, a few years ago, when he started the war, he talked about crimea, crimea, they say, part of the russian federation, when he smeared ukraine, he talked about novora.