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in connection with the activities of the defense forces of ukraine. tell me, please, mr. mykhailo, whether this can, firstly, whether it has already led to the corresponding effect in russia itself, and whether it can somehow affect the prices of oil, oil in the world, the behavior of the relevant organizations, ala opec, and in general, can it be provoked by some suv? well, look, the fact that it is... destroying russia's critical energy infrastructure, in this case oil refining, it is, and it is already recognized by everyone, both our friends and our enemies. but when it comes to what ukrainians say strikes on russian oil refining screw up the price of oil there on the world market - this is absolute manipulation. first, this is not a single test. and they are not the same thing at all, the crude
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oil market and the oil products market, the gasoline market and the diesel market are also not the same thing, so in principle, well, no one pours crude oil into car tanks, but crude oil users, the consumers are oil refineries, so when we talk about the fact that the price of oil has increased as a result of ukrainian strikes, well, it's just a far-fetched story. price for oil, it really increased for some time, although, by the way, these days it is decreasing somewhat, but this is a manifestation of the inability of the western coalition to curb the houthis, and the actual activity of the houthis themselves also contributes to the increase in oil prices, since the traditional oil traffic through babelmandeb, the red sea, suez is practically blocked, and traffic is now detoured. of the african
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continent, a correspondingly more expensive, longer, more expensive route, and this is reflected in the price of oil, except if we take the american market, ah, the oil market, again, there 's seasonal refinery repairs , and maybe, i guess, that's my hypothesis, because traditionally the oil magnates, the american ones, they lean more toward the republicans than the democrats. it is possible that someone is putting these plants there earlier for repairs, so that there really would be some local shortages and dissatisfaction with the increase in the price of gasoline, but again, if you look at the increases that are taking place there, they are quite insignificant, so there it cannot be said that the price of gasoline in the united states in the states, it suddenly jumped up. moreover, the united states... last year set
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a record for production and refining, for crude oil production and refining, respectively, they are number one in the world in terms of oil production, saudi arabia and russia are still reaching for them and reaching for them, so if here certain manipulations take place, and accordingly, on the basis of these manipulations, if the alleged appeal to the ukrainian side not to do what it is doing has... meaning striking at the russian oil refinery, nothing like that, just a strike tonight, he confirms the correctness of the course, we must act systematically and consistently, and in fact, this is the boomerang that has returned to the russians, because if we remember what they did in the year 22, when the blitzkrieg, kyiv failed in three days, then they began to systematically destroy our fuel infrastructure.
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oil depots and oil refineries in kremenchug, in total there were seven powerful flights, and then drones flew cruise missiles, well, not only drones, that is why they are now receiving a response. mr. mykhailo, thank you for this comment. mykhailo gonchar, expert on energy and security relations, president of the global studies center, strategy 21 joined our broadcast. literally in a few... moments, vitaly portnikov and i will return to the topic of the incident and terrorist attack in the kroko city hall in the suburbs of moscow, what this will lead to inside the russian federation itself and whether putin will use it for a war with ukraine. this will not be our only topic, but i think that mr. vitaly has many reflections on many events of the current week. be a saturday political club. long-lasting cream
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, the south of ukraine has been under attack from the russians along kakhovsky hes. then the water flooded more than 60,000 buildings. some of them are still waiting. for repair an attack on a concert in the suburbs of moscow, the death toll is increasing, the russians are looking for a ukrainian trail. about this and much more already at 21 on espresso. we continue the saturday polyclub on the espresso tv channel, khrystyna yatskiv, vitaly portnikov, and talk about the most important events. well, while vladimir putin was receiving congratulations from many , in fact, leaders and the civilized world, importantly, and his close partners, what happened in the crocus sati hall something that should actually ask the question before the russians, as for me, but i don't know them, you and i talked about it last time, and why
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didn't you keep our father, we voted for you, how is this possible, that is, we see that terrorism is raising its head despite the fact that... putin, a fighter against terrorism, one of the brightest in recent decades, has been re-elected as president. well, the question really arises here, to what extent the population can have such a request, or on the contrary, the population is shown about... stability, so that it understands that putin has just been elected president for a reason, and now he will start to restore order, because , well, i want to remind you of the famous thesis of joseph stalin, that the class struggle intensifies as socialism is built, and few people understood when stalin made this thesis, what does it even mean, then i realized that it means that you can shoot and repress anyone you want in any number, because people just hoped that we are building socialism, we have fewer and fewer enemies, more and more are imagined, that is, you cannot help yourself feel safe i have to tell you that i
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covered the most terrible terrorist attacks in russia, in moscow, when i worked as that correspondent, and it was always absolutely obvious to me that this situation looked like some strange symbiosis of terrorists and special services, and that it was never possible to understand several. as now, by the way, here is this terrorist attack , it is really organized by people who want to achieve something, is it organized by the russian special services, or yes, even more interesting, and this terrorist attack, which is organized by those people who want to achieve something, it was generally known to the russian special services, they specifically allowed it to take place, or did they not know about something, or can we ask the question like that, or maybe some? the russian intelligence did not know something, but some part knew and decided that with this terrorist attack it
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could thus cast doubt on the competence of its competitors, let's say how eternal this competition between the federal security service and the main intelligence agency is, and when there were terrorist attacks during the chechen war , then i was married to always meet with some with my sources, who explained to me that this could be a real terrorist attack, and this... is part of the struggle between the main pink office of the general staff and the federal security service, because the main intelligence office wants to put the federal security service in an awkward position in front of the leadership, because here are these people who planned and carried out this terrorist attack, they are connected to the fsb, and these people are connected to gru, these people are controlled here, and these people are controlled there, and when you begin to understand all this, study biographies, i specifically sat then, for months studied all the biographies of all the participants in the events. in order to understand where they came from, why they suddenly appeared, who is a sex commander, who is some kind of
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minister, and from this side, liaison officers, you need to sit down and draw these diagrams of connections on your hands, and then you will eventually something becomes clear, but not completely, and it's the same situation here too, because we really don't really understand what happened, in principle, if they receive a message from the americans, they... they can't help but understand, they don't idiots, at least not putin himself, uh, but at least people a little lower, that this can happen, if they are told that this is an imminent terrorist attack, they can in principle create conditions under which there will be no mass action of any kind, uh, for a certain time, they they are capable of inventing something, blowing something up somewhere without casualties, and that's how sobyanin is now. shouted that there would be no concerts and so on, so let's do it , but without a real terrorist attack, well, yes, that is, you
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understand that they can do whatever they want, organize some attack by some group of fictitious militants on some object, some shootout, no one died or someone died there, it doesn't matter, it's five or so people, and in connection with this, we are canceling mass events there until april 1 or may 1 and studies at universities, and for this time we conduct prevention. well, they didn't do it, so they were basically interested in this terrorist action, so now we will have to understand why we will understand this only with time, what they will do after this terrorist act, how they want to act in new conditions , this is the second such moment, the third moment, they may be interested in creating an appropriate atmosphere in society, i remember. and always the atmosphere after the terrorist actions in moscow, it changed the mood of the society
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very much, it is not even about the political consequences, which were also always significant, it is about how, in principle, people began to react beyond what their political views were , i remember nordost, such a feeling of absoluteness. helplessness, this is specifically so, a person cannot even control himself, so you highlight this story, here you are standing, here is the street, here is the theater center, people are sitting there, well, in principle , they are like that, they can't... they can't get out of there, they can be killed, you could be in their place, you could go to a concert, ugh, well, your a heavy feeling, people begin to want it all to end soon, so that they do not live in this feeling, or explosions of buildings, a sense of danger, absolutely terrible, how much you do not convince yourself logically that you remember, we
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talked with colleagues there, i told you, listen, well, this happens in the sleeping areas, we we understand who is doing this, it cannot be done without... under the control of the fsb, they will blow up exactly the sleeping areas of moscow, not the center, we are in principle completely safe here, but you convince yourself, and you think, well, not enough what, we can't be sure, we're not members of the fsb board there, who will know for sure that our house will not be blown up, and that, and you want it all to end, because you go to bed, you don't know if you'll wake up , living so long is hard and they speculate on it, they know it because that's basically what they work as psychologists of these masses. moods, it is not done just like that, they receive a report with an analysis of moods as a result of certain actions. the second such moment, the third moment, which is connected with the fact that in principle they always rely on historical experience, these are not their inventions. in the russian empire,
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the security department worked with terrorists. ugh, we're basically with you. we live in a city that was one of the capitals of russian terror, but it was not just terror, it was controlled terror, they most people were monitored, they had agents in militant organizations, after all yevnoazev, the head of the militant organization of the party of sirs, he was an agent of the third branch, one of the main ones, or roman malinovskyi, one of the deputies of the state duma of the bolshevik party, who also dealt with their some kind of combat, was an agent of the third security department, they all cooperated, huh. and they could specifically dictate to them certain terrorist acts against certain individuals or against certain structures, which in turn caused a reaction from the population, this was an internal struggle at the court of nicholas ii, then the soviet regime, well, first of all, they controlled all this, in this whole flywheel of repression, then they used accusations of
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terrorism in the new conditions to fight against competitors, but we , in principle we understand that in soviet times , in the 1930s, in fact, all these opposition movements and even in the bolshevik party itself were overcome, but every time there were trials of the trotskyist terrorist center, the right of the trotskyist terrorist center, terrorists everywhere, saboteurs are everywhere, they created a sense of panic among the population, because imagine, well, you live, you live in some house, so to speak, your neighbors are taken away all the time, they come at night as terrorists. it's not just taking away enemies, it's terrorists, they planned to blow something up, maybe your own apartment, they live here and live here and there and there, my god, comrade stalin, protect me, if they don't arrest me, then i just have to dream to my networks , then in order to protect me, there is still such a situation that we live in this house, we want to be protected, in the end we can
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be the ones who need to be arrested to protect others, great atmosphere, putin, well... paranoia, things like that, they create paranoia, because if we are at a distance from moscow , and we live with these anxieties and war problems, but imagine that you are now in moscow, and at this stage you have been to all these halls 10 times, went to concerts, you understand that now everything has become dangerous, you do not know , will it happen next time, do you see how special services work? ugh, no way, you understand that no one will save you, and you don’t know how you can, or do you need to, change your lifestyle, who are these people who walk next to you on the streets, this is still a ukrainian trace, so they they can be slavs, everything was so simple for you before, this wrong-looking caucasian, he is most likely a terrorist, you have to go the other
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way, but how can you protect yourself if they are ukrainians, could this be here? a neighbor can be an agent of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, horror. well, that is an atmosphere of unhealthy paranoia and mistrust of each other is being created in society, that is, it is no longer just an external enemy, it is already a total distrust of each other , one of the heads of this defense committee of the state duma or someone else has already said so, that there is nothing wrong if you you will talk about the suspicious actions of your neighbors, it was already heard from the screens today, you see, you are actually... reconstructing their intentions, so, in fact, they say, to be, to be used, in principle, like the murder of serhiy kirov by yosip stamin, huh , before the murder. kireva stalin did not even think about such possibilities that opened up before him, about mass repressions, about the fact that several former members
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of the party's politburo could be shot there at once, these people were political opponents, but for the country they were, well, how can you say, well, they were people who could not be destroyed, because they were symbols of the revolution, well, they made a mistake, they lost power, but... you can't raise a hand against them, after the 34th year there were no more problems, you can was to kill anyone, stalin killed his own relatives members of the politburo, imprisoned their wives, these people came, then continued to work, like the wife of the chairman of the presidium of the verkhovna rada of the soviet union, kalinin, sat in prison, he continues to perform the duties of the nominal head of state, well, after the war, the wife . during the extra-ordinary affairs of the molotov soviet union, she sat in prison, in a camp, he continued to work, pass the seat of the politburo, as if nothing was happening, this is absolutely special, you know, the taste of power, this is something that few
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people can afford, even with dictators, not every dictator can put the wife of his deputy in prison, and without any risk to himself, but he will still say: oh, thank you, well, she was probably wrong, that's the point. of this whole situation, and this is of course a huge problem for our understanding of the consequences of this whole process, this is a really serious problem, i would like to ask a clarifying question, it is interesting that you suggested that if, let's say, the united states and partners warned, but warned a certain part the fsb is there. let's say so, someone was not warned, and all this can happen actually show us that no, they they no no no they could, it doesn't work like that,
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they warned by instance, they warned very specifically, i even imagine how this warning happens at the level of contacts between the central intelligence agency of the united states of america and the foreign intelligence service of the russian federation, naryshkin owes this information. to bring to the secretary of the security council of the russian federation mykola patroshov, and mykola patroshov is obliged to bring this situation to putin, but the question of the accompanying text, ugh, on ryshkin to patrushev and patrushev to putin, ugh, and what is the accompanying text of those people who transmit such and such a warning to ryshkina from the americans, the americans do not necessarily meet in order to give... a warning, narichkun himself needs william burse to meet him. ugh. and yes, this is just a document that goes through instances, and each of these documents is accompanied by
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a comment from the relevant person who is responsible for a certain part of the work. we do not know which document he got acquainted with as a result putin. you need to read not the american document, but what was signed by patryshev and the accompanying documents to patryshev's letter. yes, how should you read what naryshkin wrote and the accompanying documents to naryshkin's letter, it's not one page, it's you there , the document, all of it, the whole thing, it can be 50-60 files, if we assume that this terrorist attack happened , because again, the competition of the institution, is it good for us or bad, well, i don't know, of course, listen, it's a good thing, because it shows that this system is in this, i would say. in serious condition, but with on the other hand, it is bad, because it encourages him to make inadequate decisions, you understand, if you bring putin some documentation that does not allow him to make
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adequate decisions, he is not a very adequate person in himself, to be honest, he has his worldview not very adequate, it must be understood, we see it, on the other hand, if he works with documents that are more or less realistic, he has no way out, when you are the president of the state, you work with the documents that are given to you. you can't afford to sit down, get on the internet and read and google what to do in such a situation, because it's a matter of trust, ugh, and you're unlikely to order an alternative examination, especially if you're a person who is arranged like volodymyr putin or volodymyr zelensky, you know, that it is also very important that we can have such a situation that our president works with this documentation, which is available to him, he cannot afford luxury and say, read it. something else, and the question is always how much the president appoints to certain positions competent people capable of creating documentation that he himself will create
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adequately. reality, if he is not capable , then he is actually a hostage of his own inability to select personnel whom he can trust, but who are not able to competently assess reality, and this is ukrainian, that is, in principle, the model of governing the ukrainian state today, in russia it is a worse model, because there really is a struggle of these ambitions, and the question there is not only in competence, in a conscious desire to distort reality so that the first person sees that reality. ugh, and that this one reality, relatively speaking, was cut off from the decision-making of the conditional ryshkin, well, this is a difficult gambit, and when you are putin and you study these documents, you should not think that putin received a file about the possibility of a terrorist act in moscow and said, go to the fig, this is all an american fiction, no, he sat, he
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generally... a person who works with documents , this is generally his life, he generally, what does he do all his life, he works with documents, he can’t do anything else, that’s what he is studied and on the basis of what he studied, drew a conclusion, by the way, as on 24 february 2022, he sat and worked with documents before making all these decisions long and carefully, more than one day and more than one night, but all this information was selected in such a way as to please. so that the people who wrote it would not be afraid that he would not like it, and exactly the same here, you see, what is the state security committee of the soviet union in general, so that you clearly understand, on the one hand it is a special service, on the other hand this is a special service that was beaten on the head by the communists throughout its history cadres, that is, i’m yezhov there, i’m a people’s commissar , i’m like that, here suddenly they took me and shot me, i ’m a beria, i generally manage the whole country, i was taken and shot, and in the end, they shot
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one, the other one is there... and it’s all a headache the state security committee , they say to him: comrade sirov, you must work in such a way as to be useful to the party, because otherwise you will go where your beloved comrades yezhov went, you know where they all are, and so every head of the kgb, or deputies who were at all sub-party workers, and this structure, which means that we have all the information, but we have to communicate it to the superiors so that the superiors. ugh , he was delighted with us, so that he does not growl at us, the superiors should not see this reality, which the superiors will not like, because the guilty will be the people who do not cool down, and we, we, so we will give him what we need , and it is also a huge problem that putin reads what he wants to read, and they have learned to write only documents
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that the superiors like to write, they are strange. what the communist party no longer exists, but they continue to work like this because they don’t know how to do anything else, it’s such an organization, and they are in their own trap, they run the state themselves and write for themselves what should not annoy them, and i have always been interested once , i was interested, when i worked in moscow, when putin was already president, i asked questions to some, some people who worked with him, i say, well, he knows all this, he wrote all this himself. so all his life, how can it be that he became the prime minister and the president, those people with whom he has worked all his life write to him what he himself always wrote, why he trusts this, and why trust him, if he does not trust anyone but them, what should he do if you are a colonel of the state security committee of the soviet union, you know for sure that people generally
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divide life into three categories. these are officers of the special services, these are people recruited before the services and people who will be recruited by the press services, there is no one else, and people who are not officers who are recruited or will be recruited, they are fools, because only a fool is not is an officer of the state security committee of the soviet union, that normal people, normal with normal thinking, with normal values, men, they are officers of the state security committee. and where a man can be, that’s still another thing, it’s either or there’s just some kind of thing that doesn’t lend itself to analysis, some of them are just civilians, it’s just that we don’t consider them to be people, they walk there, say something, that they’re bandits some, well , it doesn't matter if i'm still part of the criminal world in uniform, or if i'm patient, the military, whom we generally despise, because they are weapons, they are in...

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