ukrainian troops could hide in trees, buildings, etc., and use these weapons against unprotected targets. at the beginning of hostilities, the ukrainians hit the first and last vehicle in the convoy, which allowed the artillery to destroy all the vehicles inside. such weapons were used as reinforcements to support artillery. if we consider the classic anti-tank defense even before the appearance of pronrons, then such a system was mined there in the 22nd year, then at the beginning it works, for example, stugna's peterka, it is up to 5 km, but here the aspect is that it would still be necessary to find such direct visibility of the battlefield, but the first first frontier is 5 km, after that it can work, for example, javelin or karzar 2.5 km, at close range when, which is already measured in hundreds of meters, anti-tank grenade launchers begin to work, directly to this we add anti-tank mines, anti-tank. and at the beginning

of the full-scale invasion of russia into ukraine , atgm operators constantly hit russian armored vehicles, including twice shooting them down with the help of the ukrainian complex stugna-p k-52 helicopters. denys saw them fall, he himself destroyed 20 targets at that time. we then have launches in one day. at that time, we had launches in one day. they stood from the left edge of the forest, and we from the right. only we worked on tanks and... we at the vocational training school watched how these two helicopters fell, we had 10 pieces of equipment for each operator in a month and so we slowly caught them in the cesspools, or when they tried to start infantry. here are the results of new assaults by russian troops near belogorivka in the luhansk region a few weeks ago. russian armored vehicles burned in different areas of the field. it started on february 4, because...

then it was, well, nothing was done, they repelled, three targets were hit, let's say 6 minutes, i would like to see, hit but not hit, but it 's already the second bagpipes, you see it all, we they immediately launched shelters, because this work is very risky, well, the last time there were three tanks, the previous time a tank and an infantry fighting vehicle, two in... and there were nine

destroyed tanks and armored vehicles, almost all targets were hit in recent weeks, before that the russian troops in their direction did not use armored columns, each of these operators was trained by denis. they are mostly taught to play corsairs and bassoons there. they are mostly trained there to play corsairs and bassoons, but when they come here, strings and javelins are something new for them. well, we have simulators and documentation. yes, in principle, and during execution you can learn, try, it has never happened before. so that someone did not hit the first time, the first launch was such a mess, but the first launch i had a hit, i destroyed well, of course, the mandrake was very strong, and it was so nervous, because the first start, and after that all the other starts that went for oil, well, it’s normal, the main thing is not to get nervous and not to jerk this joystick, well, like a gearbox, well confidently moving smoothly for two sundays, maybe one and a half sundays, i... studied

at stugnap, since i came here, started training for the javelin, and they managed to shoot from stugna, or only for training, only for training. in fact, the armed forces currently have two main atgms, the ukrainian stognap and the american javelin, despite the fact that that the ukrainian missile must be guided to the target, the complex itself is very heavy, more than 100 kg, and not as perfect as a javelin, fighters like to work with the thigh, it is more relevant for columns than for... columns, it is more relevant than javelin , due to the fact that you immediately put the missile, brought the installation to the combat position and launch, hit, change the missile and so on in a circle, and for the javelin you need to fix the target, make the launch and turn on the thermal imaging mode a little longer than on the knee mode a little longer than it groans, well, if you take juvelin's stugnu, then juvelin, you are standing on a mountain, like, well, you are standing there, there are sharp explosions, that's what you are twitching, and then you need to fix it already.

the production of ukrainian atgms increased fourfold, although this is still not enough. taking into account the russian missile attacks on ukrainian industrial enterprises, the dynamics of the production of both missiles and complexes could change, so western analogues cannot be dispensed with. in fact, there are two

simultaneous needs: first, european countries must continue to provide this arms, secondly - to help and support ukraine in its expansion. production facilities. the reason is that this anti-tank weapon, in cases where there are no armored vehicles to protect ukrainian units, provides the only opportunity to stop russian armored vehicles. during the full-scale war, ukraine received thousands of javelin missiles from the united states. in february of this year, their manufacturer, lockheed martin, announced an increase in their production to 2,400 units per year. by the end of 2026, this number... should grow to almost 400. complexity of links supply, finding new suppliers for some components, manufacturing key elements such as microchips, finding rocket engines, all these aspects can take a long time to ramp up production.

at the very least, lockhead martin production will begin to increase in 2025, this will increase the number of javelins available, but it will all come down to financing from western partners and ukraine to buy these missiles and send them to ukraine. these fields are in the novomykhailivka district of the donetsk region. there are armored columns russian troops have been trying to advance for months. the local terrain - plains and fields, make atgm one of the main means of stopping russian attacks. operators of this weapon, including javalin, are very effective in such a situation. cool rocket. yes, the russians like them. they like we have. one of my friends is well-known, he has a lot of stolen equipment, i won't tell you the exact number, but it's around 30-40 degrees. serhii's eyes are tired, he just returned from duty, during which he hit one of the armored vehicles in two days, as i can tell you,

there was one assault, it was yesterday, and the enemy was attacking column vehicles, well, our... reconnaissance detected the enemy, well, we were told that the tanto was heading from that direction , well, accordingly, we advanced to our point, worked out what the results were, one piece of equipment was destroyed, i won't tell you anything about the manpower, well, if i had fought there on the first day, the march would have been an attack. serhiy has been fighting for a year, before that he was an attack aircraft, and he took up atgm recently, just to go out and hit the target, let's say yes, that's the turning point, but nothing like that, well, do everything clearly, come together, work out, well, it's difficult

to notice the goal, there the distances are long, two 2.5 km, sometimes it's difficult to notice. well , this is one of the most difficult that i have encountered. anti-tankers feel the threat from fpv primarily from enemy uavs, they significantly complicate the work of fighters, they need to be actually on the front line to hit targets. our movement turns out to be slowed down because, well , we are going, as they say, all loaded, that is, it is difficult for us, plus the weather and difficult comes, then we do it so that fewer people see it, well... because when they see it, then it becomes fun, the last time my device broke down, i took it on my shoulders in the evening, carried it out, left in the morning, took the device, i carried them on my shoulders, she didn’t stay with me for a long time, first one flew

in, then the second one flew in, damn it, i went, i collected that thigh, i took the fuck out, i went and collected it, the next one i carried, well, it was hard, they don’t like, they’re not thorn , they are against. tankers, well, this is number one for them. drone technology kamikaze changes the battlefield. the scale of these changes is different. night fpvs have already appeared and are a threat, but there are not so many of them. as a matter of fact, a case of the use of a drone controlled by optical fiber by the russian army was recorded, it uncoils during flight, accordingly, this drone is not affected by the rap, and there are quite a lot of such technologies that are trying to be integrated into uavs. we are talking about a subject that is very dynamically developing, it is very similar to what happened during the first world war with airplanes, they started with archaic designs like this. which was used for reconnaissance only, and the pilots during the meeting simply exchanged fire with revolvers, and in

18 it ended with full-fledged air operations and bombers with fighter cover, about the same is happening now with drones on the battlefield, so it is very difficult to judge that will be there literally in even six months. despite the fact that a significant part of the equipment is damaged, the personnel is strengthened and this is the work. range, accuracy and lethal effect of weapons, this applies both to ukraine and of russia during last year's counteroffensive we saw that... helicopter-launched anti-tank missiles from the ground were very effective against ukrainian armor if it was

slowed down by minefields and artillery. equally, the ukrainians used anti-tank missiles very effectively to destroy russian armor during offensive attempts along the front line. during the conflict , there were static stages when both sides were entrenched or in bunkers and houses. then ptkrs were used for high-precision strikes against. of these fortified positions, i.e. them usage has evolved since 2022. they complement each other. fpv drones can be considered excellent at destroying cheap equipment such as russian golf carts, which were not too long ago advanced and destroyed at longer distances, and once heavily armored targets get close, javelins, atgms and other such munitions become more effective. javelins and fpv drones complement each other on the battlefield. the mass of fpv and the skill

of the pilots produce results on a daily basis, destroying a variety of targets both on the front line and far from her this is an antidote complex. no matter what it is on, everything will burn. choose the right projectile depending on the target. if it is infantry, then of course fragmentation. if the infantry is in the dugout, then this is a thermal bar. if it's... it's a tank, well, there's even an artillery shell there, pgil, right? at every turn , there are failures in fpv calculations, it happens that they may not reach the target at all, despite the best efforts of the pilot. how many? dmitriev may not have made it out of a dozen, let's get one more, they forgot the camera, take it a little, a little, a little. it took a while, yes you

for... it took everything to the wayside, some of the drones are suppressed by rap during the flight, well, it often does not go according to plan, well, that is, if people think that one drone, well, 10 drones, 10 hits, then it is not so. i.e. if one to two, well, it happens that there are six, all six in the target, well, if one to two the pilot has one to three, then this is a normal result, well, that is, it is a very good result, well, it all depends on the day , this is how the map will play out, as they say, for the fighters who daily face the overwhelming forces of the russian occupation forces, regardless of specialization, whether they work with a conventionally inexpensive drone or with an expensive anti-tank complex, the question of whose role is more important on the battlefield does not arise, it is what kind of competition, look, we are all doing the same

thing, there is no such thing as competition for you, it is you don't start a business, you sell hats, yes, and there is another guy next to you, you sell a hat, his is 5 uah cheaper, this is competition, there is no competition, well, how can there be competition when we are all for one, when we are all fighting for one state, so what kind of competition can there be? fpv drones have become so popular not only because of their simplicity and cheapness, but also because conventional ammunition and other weapons at some point in the war were simply not enough for the armed forces, taking into account the length of the front line and the scale of hostilities in general. this technology will not replace artillery ammunition or any other help from partners, which the ukrainian army has so badly needed in recent months.

it was donbas realia, my name is roman pagolych. see you glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhii rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health for the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our victory. today in the program. over 150 missiles and drones. ukraine repelled one of the largest air attacks. recently, how seriously damaged has the energy infrastructure been? the first billion already in july. the european union is ready to give ukraine profits from frozen russian assets. results of the eu summit in brussels. loan instead of aid. republicans in the us congress have seized on trump's idea of ​​support

ukraine on credit. is this option acceptable? about this. over the next hour, we will talk about other things with the former minister of energy, ivan plachkov, and the former extraordinary and plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the united states of america valery chaly. in the second part of our program, we will have the journalist club olga len and olga musafirova. however, before starting our big conversation like this, let's watch the video consequences of one of the most massive ones. combined strikes russia over ukraine, which took place on the night of march 22, the russians used 88 missiles of various types, 63 kamikaze drones, the air force managed to shoot down 92 enemy aerial targets, out of more than 150, but many missiles and drones hit houses and businesses in zaporizhzhia, kharkiv,

dnipro, khmelnytskyi and other cities of ukraine. let's see how it all happened.

and just a few minutes before our

live broadcast, a powerful shooting occurred in the kroko shopping center in the suburbs of moscow. city hall, this is one of the shopping and entertainment centers in the suburbs of moscow, where a concert of the picnic band took place, and unknown they broke into the shopping and entertainment center, they started shooting people, they say that people were wearing camouflage and masks, it is already known about 12 dead and 50 wounded, the special forces in the shopping and entertainment center have already gone there. now there is a fire, the conclusions of who did it and how they did it will obviously come later, we will talk about it in the first part of ours. program with valery chaly and in the journalism club with olga musafirova and olga len we will discuss this event, obviously there will already be some official

versions about what happened, well in a word during the evening, i hope that there will be more information and it will be clear that what happened there and who arranged it, is it possible that the fsb arranged it, referring there to the fact that ... there may be some russian terrorist groups involved in this, very, a lot of different information appears, during the evening we will definitely return to this topic and comment. in addition, during the program we conduct a survey, today we ask you about whether ukraine should strike at the critical infrastructure of russia, well, it is meant in response to russia's strikes on ukraine. so, if you're on youtube, yes. no, vote with either that button or that one, if you have a special opinion, please write in the comments under this video, if you watch us on the air, pick up your smartphone and phone, if you

think that ukraine should strike on the critical infrastructure of russia, 0800-211381, no 0800-211382, call, all calls to these numbers are free. well, we have our first guest on the phone, ivan plachkov, the head of the council of the public... union all-ukrainian energy assembly, former minister of fuel and energy of ukraine. mr. ivan, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, congratulations, good health to everyone, and we wish you good health, let's start with the large-scale attack of the russian federation on energy facilities, which took place on the night of the 22 on march 15 regions of ukraine were shelled during the day. and attacked 150 infrastructure facilities. this was reported by the situational center of the ministry of defense. today's air attack by the russians was aimed at

the ukrainian energy infrastructure and became the largest in recent times, says energy minister herman galushchenko. in particular , one of the power transmission lines supplying the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant was damaged. by this time, it had already been restored. several direct hits by rockets. the dnipro state police learned that there was also a fire in zaporizhzhia. how do you, mr. ivan, assess the extent of the damage caused by russia this night in the ukrainian energy industry? this is truly an unprecedented attack on the energy infrastructure, both in terms of the number of missiles and geography, damaged in different regions, this is dniprogez, this is also overhead

power lines, high-voltage and distribution, and a sufficiently large number of support substations, both high-voltage and such medium power, somewhere ukraine lost two or two, somewhere two to two. despite the fact that at that time about 10,000 megawatts of power was consumed - 20%, and the aggressor tried to destroy the integrity of our power system, to destroy it in order for us to have a blackout across the country as a whole, but the energy workers maintained the power system, yes they were ...

consumers on the scale of losses. for the equipment, the equipment , such expert assessments are currently underway, well, we can say that they are large enough, as for the supply of electricity to consumers, then i believe that it is, well, well, i think, a matter of days, there are several days, i think that a week at most, yes, there may be some local outages. regional in order for the energy companies to be able to restore substations and so on, well, it will be such a short-term shutdown, well, if... we entered

the heating season this past year with a margin strength is about 5-8%, and as a rule, in peacetime we entered with a reserve of 30-40, then it will be difficult for us to restore all the equipment before the next disgraceful season, it requires a lot of money, it requires resources, such as human, so that for repair personnel, well, it is clear that they are very difficult. organizational issues , well, it is quite possible, for this period, of course, we will receive help from our european partners, and now it is coming, technical assistance for electricity, well, we will try to balance power system, that is why the situation is so difficult, very difficult, critical, and therefore we do not need to forget about timely payment for

electricity. energy, because energy companies need funds for recovery, and we know that the debt on the energy market is about 70 billion. we need to remember about diesel generators so that they are dormant, we need to save electricity, well, we already know how to do it, and the main factor in the protection of our energy infrastructure is anti-aircraft. defense, we need to strengthen, taking into account the fact that such are going mass attacks, when, a large number of missiles, and it is difficult to intercept them, shoot them down, and so on, we need to strengthen the protection of nuclear power plants, thermal power plants, that is, high-voltage networks, substations, and we must not forget that there have not yet been strikes on our

gas transmission line. on our gas transportation networks, so while we are there pumping this gas to europe, russian until the end of the year, i think that when the contract ends, next year we can expect an attack on the gas transportation, mr. ivan, director, if in short, the director of ukrhydroenergo, ihor syrota , said on rfe/rl that hpp-2 in zaporizhzhia is in a critical state, but there is no danger of the dam breaking, listen. what he said, the hydraulic structure is, of course, powerful, it is super powerful, as for the majzal, the mashzal, you understand , it is somewhat lighter, it is the majzal, where the aggregates are located, where the upper part is, but where the aggregates are located in the construction part in the lower part, it is there is also a very powerful building, and the engine room, where all the electrical equipment is, well, of course there are windows, there about, and if

says... electrical equipment and transformers are on fire, then of course the station does not work, we will calculate the consequences during the day and will understand what happened and whether it will be able to work, if it can, whether it will be able to work in a limited way or not at all during a certain period of gs2 work. mr. ivan, what does the absence of gs2 in the ukrainian energy system mean in numbers? well, look, this, dniprovska gas is a powerful power plant, there it is divided into hydro-1, hydro-2, it is more than 1000 megawatts of power, and it works, as a rule, as a regulating power, which is very necessary, it is very important for balancing, for the stable operation of the energy system, and we know that there was a fire in mashzal on ges2, now i

think that is already clear. it was difficult to get there, because there was smoke, and, but some of the equipment on hes-1 has already been put into operation or connected, and some of the dneproges has already started working, well, they will understand the energy industry, and it is clear that they will restore this equipment and in order to to keep it fully operational but... it all depends on what hardware is damaged, if that er generator, it is very difficult, it is necessary, it , it takes more than one month to be produced, if it is a turbine, if er these transformer, transformer equipment, well, well, the power engineers will work, we know that the power engineers, they always were distinguished by high discipline, high...