it is freely read in ukrainian, which involves the collection of books for the library funds of those regions that have suffered its destruction due to armed and military russian aggression, the sumy, kharkiv, zaporizhzhya, kherson, and mykolaiv regions, and we also have one more within the framework of these two actions, if... people bring russian-language books, we also take them, but we hand them over for recycling, and as part of the campaign, we will donate a russian book about the russian occupier to the appropriate bank, donate to help the armed forces of ukraine, that is, russian-language books help our boys win this one. no, so, you see, from the usual

youth initiative, i thank them for being caring and creative, non-standard in their decisions, we made such a large-scale action, mr. volodymyr, thank you very much, we will now try to include these beautiful young activists from kherson, who are just now delivering books, we will try to add them, just... in the process of delivering ukrainian books in kherson. volodymyr klyutsevskyi, the deputy head of the kherson oda for humanitarian issues, was there contact us today. tanya, this is what, what mr. volodymyr is saying, these are hundreds of libraries that have been destroyed in ukraine, these are hundreds of cultural monuments, these are hundreds of some museums. the irony is that penzhe is the main thing.

penu's idea, it was based on the fact that cultural heritage and culture is a field of understanding, and it is inviolable, especially during armed conflicts, yes and no warriors, how people from the west react, yes, western intellectuals, writers that we bring here , how they react to what they see in these regions destroyed? and you know, i just thought about my first such advocacy trip abroad, it was may... of the year, america, new york, and i simply remember how a taxi driver picked me up at the airport, who at that time had recently learned about the , about the kyiv region, and he told me then that you know, i understood why what is happening in ukraine is so exciting, why it is so close to us, because when i see footage from bucha or zirpen, i recognize these houses and these streets, they are completely for me, well, if they were also american, they are my. i understand what i see in this

footage, and that's why what i see there is so painful for me, and i can draw a parallel here, because i feel that when we talk about destroyed cultural heritage, these footage, these photographs , these videos, they also excite and touch those people who see them, because we are all shaped by culture, we are all shaped by the space of cultural objects around us, and therefore, let's say, when they appear... these first scary photos, for example, of the destroyed library in chernihiv, or when a photo appears of the damaged temple in kharkiv, i remember that our entire international community published various congresses and international events on their websites, starting with these photos, because a destroyed library or a damaged temple is something that resonates in everyone, it is something that is nearby with you, but there is a country in europe where it is being destroyed now, it is obvious that... later,

when the full-scale war has been going on for more than two years, and when the european and international audience has already seen a lot of these photos, when the damaged memories more than a thousand, it's not hundreds, it's already more than a thousand damaged objects, and today photos or our videos, they may not work, so that people feel and understand what's happening here, so we realized quite early that it's much more important really... to bring intellectuals here, and when we bring them, we always go to the kyiv region, we go to chernihiv, there are those delegations that agree to go to kharkiv, and they are really shocked by what they see around them , destroyed houses, destroyed architectural heritage, temples , libraries, museums, and just as they are touched by people's stories, but destroyed or stolen cultural heritage is something that cannot... not touch

a person, because everyone has it inside, yes, that is, it a part of upbringing, some kind of foundation on which every person stands, well, we have already seen what a destroyed culture is. for centuries, we have understood what a destroyed culture leads to, both in the physical and spiritual sense, and i promised that the young activists from kherson, actually the activists who are implementing this book initiative in the shelter, will join us, or we, can we hear marina chezhova, elita gorbanova and anton novikov, good day, anton, novikov, anton. congratulations , congratulations, congratulations, congratulations, friends, we are very, very happy to see you , today on the air, tell me, tell me, please, we have already told a little about this initiative of yours, tell me what you are doing now, just at this moment , and why is this

book an exposé for you, what does it mean to you? at the moment, we are delivering books already to the shelters, in which we have installed racks, for us. the project itself means saving human lives for with the help of books that people can read in the shelter. that is, the book is a kind of shelter for people. yes, and also in this way we want to popularize ukrainization in the southern krai in particular, because, as you know, unfortunately, our region is more russian-speaking, but after the full-scale invasion, of course, most people switched to the ukrainian language, but still no... there are all such people who are very scattered, if only, and we want to change that, we want to help people, to communicate more freely in ukrainian, to transition, not to be afraid, to learn, because in some shelters there are books that just help to learn ukrainian, that is, you don't just come here

and look at your phone, but you can take a book and learn something interesting and... relevant, friends, please tell me, what kind of support do you need right now, how can those people who now see you and admire you support you, and how can you be supported? at the moment, it is very important for us to collect books for these shelters, because it is difficult with this, as far as possible, who knows, honchar's library, which is located in kherson, it is destroyed, some... we was taken away, the kherson administration gave it to us so that we could place it in a shelter. this will later save the library fund, but at the moment we need books, so if there is an opportunity, everyone

who sees this broadcast now, i would like to urge you to send books, only ukrainian, as it is possible, as it can be done, how can it be done, how can a social page on facebook and instagram, send you books? information can be found on our social pages, we have a post with all the information, in detail about sending to the new post office, we pay together with the humanitarian new post office. thank you, these were kherson activists, book initiatives in hiding, they. they collect books for bookshelves, for shelters in kherson, and they need our inclusion, our help. thank you. what do you think about this, tanya? i think that this is an absolutely amazing, wonderful initiative, in some ways it is such a very strong metaphor, like book shelters,

book shelters. i thought that i saw a similar thing for the first time in nikopol - this is another absolutely unbreakable beautiful ukrainian city. we have also gone twice already. as part of volunteer trips, and there is their central main distribution library, in addition to supporting all their branches, trying to keep the work going there, in addition, they also had, as in many buildings, a basement, it is the absolute center of the city, we know , that nikopol, unfortunately, is shelled by the occupiers every day, and in this basement, they, too, have equipped a shelter that they take care of, that is, the library takes care of the central shelter. city, and when we first got there, it seems to be the spring of the year 23, we saw that there were shelves with books in this shelter, and it just shocked me so much at the time, how the role and meaning of libraries also changes in the conditions of war, and that this book in

the shelter continues to work as a book that is not just a shelter, we can talk about it like that, but a book is always an opportunity for me. that is, we talk about the book, we talk about the questions and topics that sound in the book, and that is probably why, literally from our second trip to chernihiv, we realized that in the future... planning our volunteer trips, we will always be in every city and town to visit the local library, because long ago , even before the full-scale invasion, the library in ukraine was not only a place to store books, it has long been social centers in ukraine, these are centers that unite their community, provide very different services , and when we now come to these libraries with books, bring writers from ukraine from other countries, we see that it is through the libraries that we find out the fastest what is happening in this city, in this region, we always get to know each other

with all the active people, with whom we then continue the following initiatives, and thanks to the libraries, we understand where our help is needed, and it is not only about books, because we also bring help for the military, and the library really became this center during the war , which unites communities. you know, in addition to what i mentioned about nikopol, the amazing initiative in kherson that we... just saw, i remember the libraries in donetsk region, sloviansk, kramatorsk, libraries that are the first example i saw in ukraine, which were forced to evacuate books, that is, libraries are physically without books at all, but they will continue to work, work as humanitarian centers, they weave nets, they receive people, provide them with help, they conduct some consultations, trainings for people in these communities, some libraries were forced from the front line move to the west, and they... even there continue to look for their readers, gather the community and provide the

necessary support, and we have literally been back from chernihiv for a week, and this incredible library, where we had joint events, libraries of kotsiubinsky and dovzhenko, and this library was damaged several times during the shelling of the occupiers, we remember, especially the second floor, the roof leaked there, there were no windows, it was a very difficult situation, and now literally a year passes, and we saw absolutely ... a modern, beautiful library that gathers full audiences, film screenings, discussions, debates, for me this is a kind of miracle, for me it is about some kind of so great resilience, resistance of each of our communities that it is really fascinating, and since you have already started talking about chernihiv oblast, i will mention one moment, because tetyana and i were on this trip together and together with other beautiful members of penu, with again. kateryna kalytko, with sofia andruhovich, with vakhtan kybuladze, and here in novgorod

siverskyi, which is actually a border area, so there 20-30 km to the russian border, one man stood up at the meeting, there was an extremely sincere conversation, and he told us he says that you won't believe it, but ukrainian writers haven't come to us since 1989 . in 1989, and we were all very impressed by it at that time, i remember that the soviet authorities took very good care of ensuring that there were contacts between artists and writers with people in the provinces, cities, towns, and villages farthest from the center, even there on farms, pig farms, they gave concerts everywhere, some some meetings, how can it be done now, that is, there is no such propaganda apparatus, yes, what would

this contact provide, but contact is needed, as you see it, how can it be organized so that it is on some such a wider level, so that pen equally cannot to do this, yes, this contact, which is very necessary for both us and them, how can it be done, you know, i was also very impressed by this moment, this speech of a man... in novgorod-siverskyi, i also constantly think about it , and i still think not only about the fact that it was part of the soviet propaganda machine, but also about that generation, we are talking about the sixties, so partly about the dissidents, who not only because of the soviet system and the opportunities provided by the soviet the authorities, but also at their own request, they really wanted to go to the people, certainly just soviets the authorities tried to instrumentalize this instrument, but in fact these contacts, but on the other hand i... heard about these meetings in the same chernihiv, they mentioned how pavlychko and drachi also came there with such enthusiasm that the leading

main ukrainian writers came to us, to speak like this with us, with our readers, that is, here is a very important moment of the community that we are talking about a lot today, the community of the sixties, their influence, their desire to know and feel their country, their lands, and when i think about these experiences in general. i think about the fact that even before the 22nd year, pen actually traveled a lot, we had two programs, lace, within the framework of which we traveled to the district centers of ukraine, we had a rapprochement program, we traveled to large... cities , but during these volunteer trips, i realized that i do not know my country, i have always traveled a lot, i have been to all regions of ukraine, but now, when we go to small towns, when we visit villages, even in these communities , i realized that we are doing this it's not enough and that i don't know my country, so it's obvious that it's necessary to continue, travel even

more, and now other initiatives are appearing, such as initiatives of public organizations, a forum. academics are currently traveling to the regions with a book initiative, but this will probably never be enough, and it is obvious that we must reach the state level as well, when the state and state institutions will also use all opportunities for writers and artists to travel to all regions of ukraine. do you remember that this opinion was also expressed in novgorod-siversky, what is possible, if there were more of these contacts, these conversations about what we live in, then the situation in this region would be different. here we would read a ukrainian book more, and no one knows how the military actions would take place there, and this is a very painful moment, and it is addressed to ukrainian artists, it is addressed to us by these people, and we need to think about it, now of course there is a great difficulty with the safe ee moments in these trips, these stories, but at the same time we see and

are convinced by our experience that this it is possible that this is the main thing that is extremely necessary, by the way, in... not only in novgorod siverskyi, but in general, in these border territories , the opinion is constantly heard that there is no vacuum, one way or another, the absence of the absence of ukrainian culture, yes, it was filled with television, which was russian-language and pro-russian, russian artists, russian books and so on, that is, where there was a void, it was filled with something very foreign. i want to show another dear to me excerpt from the film about mykolaiv about pen's trip to mykolaiv, because from it it becomes even more clear how pen actually communicates with local libraries, local cultural figures, what conversations they have, these are very small fragments, but they give this

understanding, please. then we removed all this, because we were preparing for evacuation, and while we are still unpacking the books, firstly, and secondly, two -thirds of the team is missing, so some of our departments are working, which are not yet, to date 58 libraries are damaged from them. 58 i will tell you very briefly what we are doing here, everything we see, we will tell, it is very important to be physically present, both in the ukrainian language and in the crimean tatar language, because it is important for us to maintain the crimean tatar identity, including in the occupied territories, this is one of the key threats for the occupiers, strongly national, ukrainian and krenstar

identity, more and more we will need new books, of course, because people, no matter what your... they still read. so, it was mykolaiv, what do you remember about mykolaiv, what impressed you in mykolaiv at that time trip? you know, every time i watch these

videos or see some photos from our trips, i feel like i'm seeing my own people. heads of libraries, library workers, people to whom we return , from whom we now often ask for advice when we go in this direction, and mykolaiv is absolutely our hometown, we are very close friends today with their libraries, so i am overwhelmed so much joy that i see, see these faces and remember this experience, actually this trip was at the same time, when kherson, we first went to... shchyna, then from there we went to kherson. first of all, i remember this library, how we were greeted, what questions were asked, what did this library look like? that is, even in those difficult conditions, we know that mykolaiv was also in very difficult conditions, the first months of the invasion, but despite this, they show that

here we have already replaced the windows, here we have old prints showing you, old prints show, here we have a piece that fell rockets directly into the yard, it did not explode, we continue to work, they told us how they went to the library, even on the worst days, when people tried to stay at home, but they went to check what was going on here, were the books safe... the books, tried to keep in touch with their audience, it was really absolutely fascinating and fascinating me until now, and in fact mykolaiv also encouraged us to such an expansion of our assistance to libraries, we began, in addition to the fact that we ourselves purchase and bring new books to the de-occupied front-line territories with our penbus, we also began to announce all-ukrainian collection of books, and we managed to collect both for mykolaiv and kherson. even more publications, and these are such active people that they try not only to help the city, the region, but it seems to me that they also

help the whole of ukraine with their activity and everything they do today, but i want to ask you have more about such a unique phenomenon, about how volodya yarmolenko, a philosopher, and the president of the ukrainian foam, and his wife. ogarkov, they collect money on the platform of their cultural podcast cult podcast, and almost every time, well, not every time, but very often they bring not only books, but also a car, like for the armed forces of ukraine, which they buy with the money they collected on this podcast. i am interested in how you see the reaction of western intellectuals, foreigners, to this in general, how they perceive it, because this is something unique for an intellectual, so that on the one hand, here is such an activity, and on the other hand, these people must support their army

in this way, and it is obvious that they often do it is surprising, this question is always about the role of intellectuals in the conditions of war, it is already such a question that starts with almost every international event where we are invited, and i always talk about ukraine. of their artists who are at the front today, who joined the army, i tell their stories, i tell how they explain this decision to join the army and defend their country today, and tell other stories, i always say that so many of our authors joined the ranks of the armed forces, all the others became volunteers, i always i say that in ukraine everyone is a volunteer, and then i tell individual stories, in particular i tell the stories of tetyan and volodymyr, i also talk about... even before the full-scale invasion, and according to my feeling, as a listener, this project was designed to show ukrainian culture, as an absolutely

obvious part of european culture, yes, to tell ourselves and remind who our artists are, who are these big, large-scale names of our culture, and then after the 22nd year, when tetyana and volodymyr are actively involved in information and work, so they every day and still conduct dozens of broadcasts in different languages ​​for a foreign audience, they also start traveling with humanitarian aid to the de-occupied territories, and then they also come to this realization and decision that everything they do, everything that keeps culture today, it should also support our army, and abroad always, when they ask how to help ukraine, how to help writers or artists today? the first thing we all say is please support. our army, this is the main partner ukrainian culture, and the history of the cult podcast is actually a very strong example and a very strong metaphor of how ukrainian culture

today supports its country and supports its army. tatyana and volodymyr organize many initiatives to raise funds, they continue to record podcasts in different languages, and in particular, all the events that take place in our space, our tenants, they are all aimed at... to raise funds for army and purchase the following cars. i think that actually, in there can be no other scenario for ukrainian culture today. ukrainian culture should also work to support the country and support the army. tanya, thank you for this conversation. tetyana teren, executive director of ukrainian pen, was our guest today. you understand that maintaining the culture is part of it. a very important part of our resistance to russian aggression. if you want to support a ukrainian book, ukrainian culture, do it, help the kherson libraries, help the podcast cult.

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