are shaping the ukrainian footprint, there will be a lot of interesting and relevant information, stay with espresso. attack on the crocus city hall concert hall in the suburbs of moscow. how did this become possible and where were the russian special services? we analyze everything that is currently known on the air of bbc ukraine. i am olga polomaryuk. on the third day since the attack on kroka city hall, there are still more questions than answers about whether the russian special services were informed about the alleged attack, what was the purpose of the attack on the concert hall and whether it could have been avoided. as a result of the attack, i will remind at least 139 people died, more than 180 were injured. so far , seven suspects, four alleged attackers, have been arrested in the case of the attack on crocus. yesterday, they

are accused of carrying out a terrorist attack, the result of which was the death of people, all four detained citizens of tajikistan, two of them admitted their guilt. during the court session , traces of beatings, believed to be torture, were visible on the body of the arrested. one had a bandaged head, the other was on wax. well , three more were arrested today. this is the owner of the car in which they allegedly tried to escape suspects, as well as his brother and father. the islamic state group claimed responsibility for the attack on the steps of... the kremlin did not comment on this. however, immediately after the attack, some russian politicians began to talk about the possible involvement of ukraine in it. mykhailo podolyak, adviser to the head of the president's office , denied this and stated that ukraine has never used terrorist methods of war. the white house stated that there is no indication of kyiv's involvement in the attack. at the same time , the us authorities believe that the attack on crocus can to stand in the khorasan vilayet. an afghan cell

of the islamic state group. and after the attack in the suburbs of moscow, france announced an increase in the terrorist threat level to maximum. president emmanuel macron has said that the affiliate of the islamic state group, which claimed responsibility for the attack on crocus city hall, has carried out several attempted attacks on french territory. in public places, such as train stations, airports, or religious places, increased patrols by the armed forces. due to the possible threat of attacks , macron and... ordered to reduce the number spectators at the opening ceremony of the olympic games, which will take place in july in paris. so, why was the islamic state group able to carry out an attack in russia, what were the targets and where? the bbc's friend garner explains. there are several reasons for this, one of them is syria. so, the so-called islamic state recently made a statement in which it is said that they will never forgive and never forget, because the russian air force and military are in syria. the second is

afghanistan, where the taliban is fighting the islamic state of khorasan province, which is an offshoot isis, which operates in this territory of afghanistan. in september 2022, idil attacked the russian embassy in kabul, because they believe that the russian government is an ally of the taliban, and the taliban is their enemy. in addition, they have disputes with other regimes in this part of the world. the third reason, the most relevant , is that... that the fsb has recently taken tough measures against suspected jihadists in russia, and of course, russia is now fighting against ukraine, in so -called special military operations, that 's what this war is called in russia, and that's until her attention of the kremlin. so the question is, did it distract russia? don't forget that two weeks ago the us warned about the threat, but russia called it propaganda. it appears that the us intercepted the messages they transmitted. russia,

directly to moscow. although the governments of both countries cannot stand each other, the us nevertheless shared this warning about the threat with russia. he was turned down, but it appears to have been a real threat. ivan stupak, an expert of the ukrainian future institute, joins our broadcast. i welcome you on the air, here you go at the beginning of march, the special services of the united states, as well as britain, warned the kremlin about possible terrorist attacks. so tell me... in this case, the intelligence services of different countries are working, how does this exchange of data take place, and could foreign special services have such data at all? yes, look, such exchanges are happening even though the relations are extremely bad, to put it mildly, but the united states special services received such information, passed it through their channels, to the special services of the russian federation, because even despite such relations, the exchange'.

information it continues, especially regarding terrorist threats, plus information about such a threat has been officially released and there has been an official warning to the citizens of the united states. that they should be very careful and not appear in crowded places. 48 hours passed, 72 hours passed, the terrorist attack did not happen, many people in the russian federation relaxed, putin personally perceived this threat as blackmail on the eve of the elections, and perhaps they did not even take any response measures, because the information did not contain a specific date, did not contain of a specific location, and it could be. just as a general warning, yes , in fact, these statements were on march 8-9, if i 'm not mistaken, yes, and the elections are on march 17, so preparation for such attacks obviously takes time, in your opinion, how did the russian fsb

see this , and in general, in your opinion, where were the russian special services, could they have prevented this attack? answering your question, the russian special services were in ukraine, they are all concentrated. in ukraine, in the ukrainian war, in the invasion, in continuation intelligence of the situation inside , on internal problems, they were already looking not very meticulously, because the main oppositionist is no longer alive, there is no opposition party, the north caucasus is under complete control, everything else seemed just gentle, very normal, very adequate and there is no need to use any of serious response measures, it turns out that they were overlooked. yes, that is, it is a lack of personnel, as far as i understand it, and a lack of personnel and focus, focus of attention, because everyone focuses on ukraine, on the united states, on great britain, on germany, they want to receive intelligence information, they work against, well, as they set themselves

a task, against the special services, they call it the anglo-saxon world, and the rest of the problems, they remain out of the spotlight, that's why they saw through it, said the ukrainian expert. here in the future, ivan stupak is with us, please stay, and before we continue the conversation, i suggest watching a report by steve rosenberg, a bbc correspondent currently working in moscow. he spoke with the russians, found out what they were thinking about the attack on the concert hall. moscow, wherever you go look, wherever you are, you can see that this country is in mourning and shock. across russia , flags are flying at half-mast for the victims of the mass murder in the concert hall. queues grew longer and longer at the site of friday's attack outside croke city hall. the national day of mourning was most acutely felt here. it was a stream of sympathy, mountains of signs of respect for the dead. in addition to flowers and candles, people

brought soft toys and sweets, because there were children among the dead. they also leave messages. one of them is addressed to attackers, i it says you guys , we will never forgive you, there was a mixture of sadness and anger in the crowd, it was a big shock because i live nearby and saw it from my windows, it's terrible and it's a great tragedy, such a terrible loss, says natalie, never i will forgive and i will not forget, bring back the death penalty for terrorists - yevhen says, for sure. this is how the attack began. ofoyet's armed men make a desperate attempt to hide. the attackers moved to the auditorium. as a result, more than 130 people were killed. the suspects were arrested. on sunday

in the evening they appeared before the court. russia says they were captured while fleeing to ukraine and had connections there. kyiv categorically denies its... involvement in the attack, the islamic state group says it is behind the shooting, and while the country mourns, a somber president putin prays silently. the kremlin said he lit a candle for the victims in the church of his country estate. and russia prays that there will be no more attacks. if they do, it will be a test of people's faith in the president's ability to protect them. so and with we are in contact with ivan stupak, an expert of the ukrainian institute of the future. mr. ivan, putin said that the attackers were allegedly trying to escape to ukraine, where, they say, a window had been prepared for them. he repeated it again this morning, alluding to the ukrainian trail without any

evidence. ukraine rejects any involvement in the attack, but why are russia pushing these accusations towards ukraine? see, it would be. the best option for the russian federation is that among these terrorists there were, i don't know, citizens of ukraine, or they were correspondence with ukraine, electronic correspondence, eskis, ukrainian sim... cards, and here is this fiction about a kind of window on the border, but once again i want your viewers and listeners, they just think again, what window is on the border, when in the bryansk region, only in one region, on the border with ukraine , there are 8,500 russian soldiers, approximately 50 tanks, many checkpoints, the russian guard, the fsb, how could this renault siembol with four people cross these... borders and enter the territory of ukraine , but in the end, this whole scheme

, which was invented by the russians at the last moment, was broken, so to speak, by belarusian colleagues who reported that they detained these four people, directly at the moment of an attempt to cross the russian-belarusian border, that is, not in the direction of ukraine, but specifically in the direction of belarusians . yes, and it is interesting how the kremlin can use this attack against ukraine. in your opinion. what will russia do now? well, look, they are trying to artificially tie ukraine to this story, it does not work, there is no evidence, there are no search materials of any connections with ukraine, in general, from the word absolutely. it would be convenient for the russian federation to find a connection, to show a cause-and-effect relationship and to announce mobilization, that you see, ukrainians attacked peaceful russians, it is necessary to announce mobilization, but once again, there is no connection, there is no connection. ukraine, tyrakt, dead russians inside russia in moscow and mobilization. now, i think,

they are thinking a lot about this. tell me, i see that the west fears that putin will use the attack in moscow to intensify internal repression and aggression against ukraine. do you think so? well, look, where else? well, the russian federation has already had an authoritarian regime for 25 years. in the russian federation , punitive psychiatry has been practiced since the soviet union and right now , that is, people who do not support putin's regime or oppose the war, they can be forcibly sent to a psychiatric hospital. the issue of the return of the highest measure of punishment is being taken seriously, i.e. the rhetoric about nuclear winter, about the destruction of everyone and everything, i think, where to escalate further? yes, actually, i'm about that... i wanted to ask yes, more and more people are now talking about the return of the death penalty in russia, do you generally

think it will come to that, of course, i think it will come to that, and look, i think in the intermediate stage, except, as i said, penal psychiatry , which has already gathered, is gaining momentum , correctional camps may appear in one form or another, as it is, for example, in north korea, as it was in the soviet union, no joke, then it was called gula. well, it can be called something, well, something different, some creative name will benefit, it can be, but a higher degree of punishment, i think it will be determined, you know , in what way, the people, the people are asking putin to return, because we can no longer tolerate all that is happening, i think that putin will go for it, yes, the people are asking, and actually, what is next what steps will russia take, because there is information that putin said that it was an attack on... are these just statements or will any actions

follow this in your opinion? well, let's do it , actions will follow, this is once again, this is the tightening of the nuts, this is to find and squeeze out all disagreeable potential traitors even with the closest circle, that is, i think that the fsb will now look for people, perhaps among oligarchs, among ministers, some officials. those who can potentially work , as they call it, for the anglo-saxon world, can cooperate with ukraine, that is, this is repression inside the russian federation, plus it is a game for time, unfortunately, time is now working for the russian federation, the longer they hold out, the victory of the russian federation in this war is all the more likely, because as we can see, the western world is not ready for a long war, and putin is very much counting on it. mr. ivan, thank you, ivan stupak was in touch with us, so what? that's all we have time to talk about today, see you tomorrow at 9 p.m., good luck!

greetings, friends, live on the espresso tv channel, the second part of the verdict program, my name is... serhiy rudenko, today we are talking about what happened in the last few days, in particular in russia, and not only in russia, but also in world, let's talk about this a little later with my colleague. before our broadcast in 15 minutes. let me remind you that we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, and throughout our broadcast, we conduct polls, we ask you the following: do you believe that the terrorist attack in moscow was organized by the federal security service of the russian federation? so, if you watch

us on youtube, yes, no, or write your comment below this video. if you are watching. us on the air, on tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if you believe that this is all the work of the fsb (0800-211-381, no), 0800-211-382, vote, all calls to these numbers are free , at the end of the program, we will sum up the results of this vote. so, the story of the shooting in moscow's shopping and entertainment center kroku city hall, which happened... happened five days ago, is unfolding right before our eyes, and it looks like an attempt by russian terrorists to pull on the robes of holy martyrs, terrorists led by volodymyr putin, who kills ukrainians every day and completely destroys our cities, villages, churches, kindergartens

, schools, hospitals, uses the tragedy that happened in terka. crocus in order to evoke sympathy in the west and make enemies of those who do not send condolences to putin personally. solov'ovska, beeva and simanyan are simply convincing the world that only one country has the monopoly on terror in this world, and this country. russian federation. russia is a country that generates terror on an industrial scale, using different types of weapons, and we see it every day, every night, when they attack peaceful cities and kill peaceful citizens, they use all kinds of weapons,

except for nuclear weapons, in order to to show someone who is... terrorizing the country the number one terrorist in the world , they caught three tajiks there, one of them put out an eye, another cut off an ear, they tried to interrogate the third by applying an electric current to the genitals, and actually after that they talk about russia protecting itself from terrorists, although ... we see that the country that is terrorizing, including, well in this case tajikistan, this footage you all obviously saw how they publicly cut off the ear of one of the detainees on camera even before the three suspects

were found not proven by the court, but they were dealt with as with those responsible for the crocus city hall shooting. the russian dictator putin himself hinted and hints at the ukrainian footprint in this story in his address to the citizens, although he avoids direct accusations. let's listen to what putin says. as for the investigation of this crime and the results of operative and search measures, the following can be said at this time. all four direct perpetrators of the terrorist attack, all those who shot and killed people, were found and arrested. they tried to hide and moved towards ukraine, where they followed the previous ones according to the ukrainian side, a window was prepared for them to cross the state border, a total of 11 people were detained. putin

announced this statement a day after the terrorist attack happened. city hall. 19 or 20 hours passed, putin was silent, he did not know what to say, how to explain to the russians everything that had happened, but when he appeared in front of the television cameras, he began to carry the delusion, the delusion that he always carries in his life, that ukrainians involved in what happened in the steps of city hall, because it turns out that the perpetrators of this terrorist attack, as he says, were moving in the direction of ukraine, where according to preliminary information from the ukrainian side , a window, like this window, was prepared for them, these three tajiks were supposed to drive by in their car. renault simple, apparently having driven 500 or 600 km from moscow to this border, putin, of course, did not explain, because now the border between russia and ukraine

looks like this: on that side, on the russian side, there are mines, then there are detachments of the russian army, units of the russian armies, then there are armored vehicles, then there are the russian guards. that is, the entire border on that side is completely plastered with russians military, and imagine that these so-called terrorists or those who are accused of committing a terrorist attack in crocus city holi, are moving in a civilian car, a renault simple, which was apparently under crocus city holi, having driven 500-600 km, no one stopped them, and now they had to pass through some kind of... but, which was arranged by the ukrainians, they should have passed, how they were supposed to pass, no one knows, putin lies, he always lies, and in this case, once again

, he demonstrated that he only lies tries to justify its aggressive actions against ukraine, saying that there are tajik terrorists, who staged a shooting in the shopping mall, crocus city hall, and there are ukrainians who support them, if both... they act together, then this is a great threat to the russian federation. what will putin invent in order to carry out another russian terrorist attack on the territory of the ukrainian state, in order to justify the flights of ballistic missiles over peaceful cities, including the ukrainian capital, in order to justify strikes on the energy sector. the structure of the ukrainian state, because here it turns out that there are those who helped those who shot russians in crocus city hall shopping center. by the way, i want to remind you that

this whole story unfolds on the days when putin celebrates his victory, victory in quotation marks in the elections, the so-called elections of the russian federation, to put it simply, they are holy. in which these election results were falsified, including in the territories temporarily occupied by the russian federation. so, the united states of america warned russia in advance about the threat of an organized terrorist attack, and this was reported by cbs news, but the kremlin did not take this into account information at the expanded board of the fsb, which took place the day after... the day after the so-called presidential elections in russia, putin compared such warnings, which then came true, to blackmail. let's hear what he

said. let me remind you about the recent, frankly, provocative statements of official western structures about the possibility of terrorist attacks in russia. all this resembles frank blackmail and the intention to intimidate and destabilize our country. you know, that is, foreign special services inform putin's fsb that there will be terrorist acts in russia, and they believe that, as usual, western the special services are plotting, and either putin already trusted the fsb, or the fsb was completely involved in the ukrainian state, but they did not take this into account, and then this story began with ukraine. later, first putin, then medvedev came forward with his explanation that ukraine should respond, as he said,

with death for death, on his facebook page, and then in telegram, he wrote that one should not expect the results of the act terrorist attack, because, as he says, no courts and investigations will help. if the forces are not oppose force, total executions of terrorists and repression against their families, if it is established that they are terrorists of the kyiv regime, to deal with them and their ideological inspirers, otherwise it is impossible, all of them will be found and mercilessly destroyed as terrorists, including state officials, who committed such a crime, wrote medvedev in the evening, when actually... this tragedy, this terrorist attack unfolded in the suburbs of moscow, what exactly do the russian

leaders want, or those who are in charge now... of the russian federation, well, it's obvious , goal number one is to tie ukraine to these terrorist attacks and increase the shelling of the ukrainian state and justify it by the fact that ukrainians tried to help those recruited by idil. second, they want to restore the death penalty in the russian federation in order to kill those who criticize putin and who try to... question the putin regime and those who are the foundation of this putin regime. it is not for nothing that medvedev mentions that we will kill and find ways to do it. well, obviously, one of the ways is to call on the russians to support their initiative regarding the restoration of the death penalty in the russian federation, and this too, in principle, could be one of the consequences. the third is the transformation

of russia into an openly fascist. the state, when they will check all the nations and nationalities that inhabit the russian federation for involvement in isis or terrorists, for example, the tajiks, who were caught and accused of having staged this grandiose terrorist attack, obviously, not just now will be someone who was born and raised in tajikistan, now... temporarily lives in russia, will not simply be residents of the countries of central asia, which are also on the territory of the russian federation, that is , we can witness how this whole story will turn into a xenophobic story, into a fascist story, into a racist story, when russians simply will beat and kill these people who are on the territory

of the russian federation. president zelensky also spoke about these accusations or hints that these terrorists may be connected with ukrainians. let's listen to what president zelensky said, this is absolute nothingness, putin, instead of taking russia as his citizens, turned to them, kept silent for a day, thinking. how to attract it to ukraine, everything is completely predictable, those hundreds of thousands of russians who are currently being killed on ukrainian soil would definitely be enough to stop any terrorists, and if the russians are ready to die silently in crocuses, and not ask any questions to their special services, then putin will try to turn more than one such situation to the benefit of his personal power,

well... it should be recalled that similar terrorist attacks and similar acts of terrorism in the russian federation have been occurring since 1999, it was in this year that there were explosions in russia in the cities of moscow, valgadonsk, buinak and ryazan, during the laying of explosives they were detonated '. employees of the federal security service, who were supposedly checking how the residents of the house would react to these provocations, although in fact they were caught with bags of hexane, which was then called ryazan sugar, and this is where all these memes about ryazan sugar and how the fsb came from tried to use the gullibility of the russians

in order... to create conditions under which all terrorist attacks committed in 1999 on the territory of the russian federation would be blamed on the chechens and said that it was the chechen militants who staged all these actions, which were then used against chechens and for the destruction of the chechen republic of chkeria, well... in this situation, the following facts are still important: in 2004, there was a sort of takeover of nordost in dubrovka, and you remember this entire tragedy that unfolded there, and the late kobzon used to visit someone there save and all that also, as putin's opponents later claimed.