we are talking about the status of the indigenous people , the crimean tatar people, because this was already the rules of the game between the state and the crimean tatar people, this is a very influential part in the aspect that you say about the occupation of crimea, ugh, that is, we, we existed more than 1991, and even the soviet union. let's put it this way, the consequences remained, and we were already creating our representative bodies and forcing any government to deal with the crimean tatar people through its representative bodies, but the interaction, that is, the rules of the game between the crimean tatar people, as a complete such nation, both political and actual, and the state-creator on the territory.

crimea, so far this issue has not been settled, what would it give us? first of all, i believe that this would give the state of ukraine, that is how we adopted the law on indigenous peoples and how it affected, yes, er, not only utsikh - enemies, yes, animals, it undermined everything there, but it affected society. on the authorities here inside the country, it affected all these adventurers who tried to continue, despite such a war, to spread stereotypes, it affected our partners, who frankly said that finally, yes, this is the status of the indigenous crimean tatar people as well, which would also be a very positive step. for ukraine itself,

first of all, relying on international law, that is, we no longer hear from putin such a concept as the crimean people, but you remember how very actively he ironed it several years after the occupation of crimea, now there is no such concept, and please tell me, mr. artem, briefly, if possible, we have a whole ministry that should deal with the reintegration of temporarily occupied territories, i understand that competences... their entry is not only temporarily occupied crimea, but crimea was the first to enter this competence, because these are the first occupied ukrainian territories, so how would you assess the overall activity and activity of this ministry in the direction of the crimean peninsula? look, there are several directions, let's say such work, yes, it interacts with the ministry there. acts on behalf

of the representation of the president in the autonomous republic of crimea, but this does not solve the main aspects of which i am talking about directions, because this is the competence of the verkhovna rada, and the verkhovna rada will depend on the position of the president, yes, and even more so the office of the president, it is no secret that there are several, let's say, different approaches to this issue, but we are working on it... , and as for the directions in which the ministry works, together with the representatives of the president's office, i tell you honestly, yes, the state, it is obliged now to calculate the consequences of the occupation, to decide on some directions, such as how the state will move after the deoccupation of crimea, but i always emphasize that this is not the east of ukraine.

this is not the south, this is crimea, there are the karen people, the crimean tatars, this is, let’s say, the state’s confidence in this people, which is, as it were, a stronghold, yes, this is ukrainians, ukrainians in crimea, we, some processes that take a lot of time here on the mainland, yes, for example, where...

representatives of the authorities, of course, and the main thesis: crimea will be ukrainian when it is crimean-tatar, and crimea will be crimean tatar when it is ukrainian, this is what is important sener . it is very important to emphasize it. thank you mr. akhtem for this inclusion. akhtem cheygo, deputy chairman of the mejlis of the crimean tatar people joined the together beraber project, a joint project of the espresso tv channel and the atr tv channel. i hope that all this that we are discussing now is interesting to you, because you need to think about the present and the future. you can't do without it. all other approaches to the crimea were erroneous and their consequences. there is what we see now, unfortunately, we have to correct the mistakes of the past and go, move forward , thank you for your attention, see you, so, she

came, came to us, from the other side, and here what, the higher she came, that's what she is it was higher there, here it was up to such a distance, at such a distance, and there it was a little higher. mrs. elena's house is located at the lowest point of the village of afanasiyivka, in the mykolayiv region. when the russians blew up the kakhovka hydroelectric plant, water almost completely flooded the residence. i had to run away quickly and almost empty-handed. due to the flooding , the walls fell into the building, the furniture was ruined, the garden was simply washed away. all this floated in the once cozy yard. we didn't do anything because it was impossible to enter here. everything is here there were all the sleepers, here they were all here, it lay there until it dried out here, because here we did not touch it, but tried to do something there in the house. at least some clothes, a few chairs and two tables were taken out of the house. the water went away

in just 9 days, but restoring your cozy nest turned out to be a very difficult task. there was nothing, everything was gone, the whole garden was covered in reeds, whole piles of reeds were overtaken, and in order to do something, the emergency services had to be called, they checked, they went with mine detectors, only later we walked, it was so scary, who knows what drove him here. at the same time, olena and her husband oleksandr had to move to another house, across the street, where olena's mother used to live, it was also flooded, but the water was only up to her knees. it is habitable, but since recently, traditionally for the region, the walls have been constantly blooming there. every day, the couple sees their house through the window, now raw and desolate. as it turns out, we try, of course, at home is at home, if

it doesn't go well at home, it's still better at home. the family cannot afford to rebuild the house yet money compensation under the program is a restoration, which has not yet arrived, according to elena. these funds will only be enough for cement and to pay the workers for the work, but there is still another huge problem, the building was built in 1942 from clay and straw, so the walls are still wet. the water protrudes, the walls again begin to take on their excess volume, yes, well, not all of them are beautiful now, now after that, after their repair. the dehumidifier, this special machine, has been working in the apartment for about a week. the couple received as part of the liquidation project consequences of the undermining of the kakhovskaya hessian dam. this powerful industrial device condenses 20-30 liters of water per day, so it can help the family start repairs as soon as possible. well, it can take up to a month. i think when it's in

the summer, for example, it will be faster. maybe, i think that in a week we will dry the house, well, a week, at most, maybe, maybe faster. i really want to return to my hometown as soon as possible, but there is still a lot of work ahead, so olena, there is a lack of optimism. at our age, i don't know, it will be a lot hard. nine months ago, as a result of the occupiers undermining the kakhovskaya hes dam, a huge wave washed away everything in its path. however, thousands of residents of flooded areas have already returned to their homes. and according to the leader. ukrhydroenergo, the kakhovskaya hpp itself is planned to be restored immediately after the deoccupation of the kherson region. kateryna galko, oscar yanson from the mykolaiv region for the espresso tv channel. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program,

my name is serhiy rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. in the following for two hours we talk about ukraine, about the world, about... the war and about our victory. today in the program. insidious ballistic strike. russia attacked kyiv for the third time in 5 days. what can be the goal of the persistent. air attacks on the capital. a new victory of the armed forces in the black sea. the russian navy continues to lose warships . how soon will the russians be without the black sea fleet? a wave of xenophobia in russia, torture of detainees and threats of retaliation for the terrorist attack in crocus. how putin uses tragedy to consolidate power. about this and about other things, during the next hour talk to our guests were general serhiy krivonos, diplomat oleksandr khara and former member of the state duma of the russian

federation, russian opposition politician ilya ponomarev. in the second part of our program, i will have my colleague maryna danylyuk yarmalayeva as a guest. however, before starting our big conversation, let's watch a video of the consequences of the impact of two russian ballistic missiles launched from crimea on kyiv this morning. missiles destroyed the ukrainian. anti-aircraft defense, debris from of them fell in the pechersk, solomyansk and dnipro districts, the building of the academy of decorative and applied arts and residential high-rise buildings were damaged, two people were hospitalized. let's see. attention, air.

after literally 10 seconds, a shell flew by, our windows were damaged a little, but... the house is also dirty, but the most important thing is that we are alive, we run out into the corridor and, as we see in a horror movie, well, dust, nothing can be seen, everything so there are no windows, there are no walls on one side.

friends, we are working live on the tv channel espresso, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, where you can vote and take part in our survey, today we ask you this: do you believe that the terrorist attack in moscow was organized by the fsb? yes, no, if... you are sitting in front of the tv, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote 0800-211381, no 08021382, all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program we will summarize this vote. and we have our first guest on the phone - this is serhiy krivonos, major general reserve, former first deputy commander of the sso, ex-deputy secretary of the national security council in 2019-20 , mr. i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today, congratulations, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, mr. general, defense express

confirms that during today's morning strike, the enemy used two of the latest hypersonic zircon missiles at once, which were shot down directly over kyiv. the missiles that were fired at kyiv, as kyivpost writes, were aimed at the premises where they are located. high-ranking officials of the sbu, this is the zircon missile, it was created for destruction of enemy surface ships equipped with anti-aircraft and anti-missile defense systems. what is the danger of such a missile, which is launched from the occupied crimea and hits the ukrainian capital, that is , explain to our tv viewers what is the danger of this newest zircon. missiles, which the russians are currently testing by hitting peaceful cities?

well, first of all, the most difficult thing for our air defense is the speed of this missile. according to official data, the speed of this rocket is at the level of eight to nine machs. what is one swing - this 330 m/s. calculate how fast this rocket is moving. the descent range of this missile is different again. the source is from one thousand to 1,500 km, and the flight height is 30-40 km, the weight of the warhead is 300-400 kg of explosives, this is quite serious and... such a missile can cause great damage when hitting a target, so for our air defense, it is just right challenge, but given the weapons that our western partners have given us, we are up to the challenge at this stage. with what, in your opinion, is the intensity of shelling

by the russian occupiers of ukrainian critical areas connected infrastructure, in particular heat. trostansii , taking into account that we are already passing through the winter period, it is already spring, and this is a little easier, they just want to deprive the military facilities of power supply from energy, in general , their biggest dream is to destroy ukraine as an independent independent state and destroy all patriots, and those who remain will be directly made obedient slaves, no more, no less, therefore any destruction that they... carry out on the territory of ukraine and bring joy to them, they do it methodically, systemically, they are allowed by their economy, which has been transferred to function in the conditions of a special period, you know, we have not transferred, but they have already transferred and are steadily producing a huge number of weapons that destroy our cities and villages.

as for, again, our energy facilities, at certain moments too much... our politicians began to tell, and this is practically the whole end of february and the beginning of march, when they happily told us that we survived the winter, there were no disruptions it was, the russians didn't do anything, well, there are golden rules in the army, how many times i kept silent, so many times i did not regret it, why remind the enemy and why give excuses that , immediately after these strikes, discredit our government again, that was good, that's what we told about it, that's how to get it... better to do it, i do not understand at all why the tongue goes ahead of the mind. well, this is a rhetorical question, mr. general, i think everything is obvious here. along with the fact that the russians are shelling our critical infrastructure, russian missiles continue to fly into the territory of neighboring poland. on the night of march 24

a russian missile flew into neighboring territory for 39 seconds. to us states, the spokesman of the operational command of the polish armed forces , jacyk horyszewski, explained that the russian missile was not shot down on sunday night, as it would have posed a risk to the local population. let's listen to what yatsyk horyshevsky said. one of those missiles entered our airspace at 4:23 am. it was moving at a speed of almost 800 km/h at altitude. we knew its trajectory and direction, we expected it to come out of our space, and it did. mr. general, did you understand?

the behavior of poland and the members of the north atlantic alliance, they... do not want an escalation of the situation, but if missiles are already flying into their territory, what does this mean? it is important to study the reaction of nato countries to any provocations carried out by the russian armed forces, and this is already this is not the first example with missiles, i am not saying something that is not particularly advertised, but meanwhile the russian rep is quite powerful and often affects the navigation system and not only the navigation system, on the means of... on the territory of poland and other baltic countries, russians do it systematically and study directly what and how relevant actions are monitored, they are preparing, and it is precisely these systematic provocations that will show that the russians are studying the future theater of military operations and studying the capabilities of the polish

air defense forces, their capabilities and the speed of their reaction, that is, they take ... the polish woman is weak, so far, i understand it correctly at this stage, but you know how the very same nato soldiers joke one day, the question is deciphering, what is nato? no action talk only talks, unfortunately, the situation does not teach, although there are examples when, again, nato member turkey, there a russian plane, according to the data we have officially, only flew into the airspace of turkey for 6 seconds. and i was already shot down here, this is the reaction of a country that has been at war for more than a decade, and there both the military and politicians are used to making decisions instantly, there is a threat, there is a reaction , the poles hope that the situation of 1939 will repeat itself, i do not think , if the russians go on the offensive, it will be much more powerful, there was

a german offensive on september 1, 1939. to things, the ambassador of the russian federation, who was summoned to the ministry of foreign affairs of poland, ignored this call and said that first you prove that it is a russian missile, then summon me to the ministry of foreign affairs, well, that is , they, they are completely demonstrative. demonstrate that we have flown in your sky and will fly, nothing, no one will stop us, nato is still afraid that they will have to apply the fourth or fifth article there, the statute about about nato, and having such resources, why they russia is afraid to answer, well, as for resources, it is not so optimistic quickly. and nato is now vigorously starting, has already begun to prepare for a possible russian aggression, and at this stage , they still do not have enough resources, according to their calculations.

later, perhaps, their activity and their ability to make quick decisions will be much higher, but this is later, at this stage they are trying not to disturb the russian bear, if he simply ran amok from the military-political point of view. change is strong enough, still they try to negotiate or pretend that nothing happened. i would like to remind our colleagues from nato countries that in the 1939s and 1940s the situation was the same: europe tried to the last to curb the acts of such an aggressor hitler, taking risks and sacrificing certain small countries, but everything led to the fact that practically all of europe was... occupied by german troops. history repeats itself in a spiral, if they have forgotten about it, let them remember, and it is necessary to understand that the russians accept only force in response, no

talks. well, yes, they understand one language, the language of power, nothing else. this is in principle prompts the defense forces to strike the temporarily occupied crimea. on the night of march 24, the defense forces in... hit the control post of the black sea fleet of the russian federation, two amphibious ships at the 13th ship repair plant of the black sea fleet of the russian federation in sevastopol , the large amphibious assault ship yamal was hit, the ship's damage is critical, the main intelligence directorate reports ministry of defense of ukraine. the navy of the armed forces of ukraine said that it was also probably damaged during the missile attack on sevastopol russian reconnaissance ship. ivan hurs, as british defense minister grand shabs says, putin's illegal occupation of ukraine is causing enormous damage to russia's black sea fleet, which is now

functionally inactive. general, do you share the optimism that the russian black sea fleet is now, as grant shabs said, functionally inactive. optimism, such a thing is enough. interesting, everybody looks at the bottle half empty or half full in terms of whether it's empty or full, so the british, they have a lot of optimism, i will say that we still have a lot of work to do regarding the destruction of these ships and not only ships, in general the infrastructure that ensures the activities of the black sea fleet and powerful bases, primarily sevastopo. this is novorossiysk, these are the objects of our next strikes, it must be done methodically, constantly, daily, and the sooner and sooner we

do it, the easier it will be for us at certain moments in the southern direction. mr. general, as reported by the general staff of the armed forces of ukraine, the russians are now storming seven directions of the front, 60 combat units per day clashes, but we see that in the last few... weeks, the russians have been quite actively bombing the sumy region, sumy oblast, neighboring areas to the kursk and bilhorod regions, what do you think is the reason for such activity in the north-east of ukraine, that is, they they are trying to create, as putin said, a sanitary zone between russia and ukraine, actually they are cutting down this sanitary zone. zone from northeast to southeast? what bothers me is that, unfortunately, due to the lack of the required amount of artillery and ammunition for it, we

we can't ... oppose anything, that's why they behave so brazenly, realizing that we simply have nothing to shoot back at. well, how likely is it that the russians can enter the territory of the sumy and chernihiv regions? for tonight, this probability is quite low, but what will happen in two or three weeks, the situation may change, they know how to shift their troops in any direction quickly enough, as this historical example showed, in the last ... years, and this in they succeed. when it will be necessary to divert attention and spray our forces between the east and the north, just they can do this thing. according to the intelligence of great britain, the kremlin plans to create two new armies, and the british are talking about the fact that these armies will be created in 2024, and

on march 20 the minister. of defense of the russian federation serhiy shuigu, confirmed the intention to create such armies, according to him, they will consist of 14 divisions and 16 brigades. the exact type, locations, and composition of these units are not specified, and it is not yet known, in fact, where these armies will be, which way or which way to go to ukraine or enter ukraine. what do these two large armies mean for the armed forces in 2024? year, this threat is serious enough, but it is necessary to understand that these armies may not necessarily all be aimed at the territory of ukraine, these armies may also be concentrated in the baltic direction, and it is there that they may start aggression, which concerns the baltic countries, or simply, you know, armed provocations and powerful psychological pressure on nato countries. "i wanted to ask you,

mr. general, about the rotation that took place almost two months ago, and before this during the rotation of the large command staff of the armed forces of ukraine, it was said that the new command should provide some plan for 2024, almost two months have passed, what has changed in the ukrainian army and so on according to your observations. the issue can still be changed five or six times to the central committee and its team, if the economy does not work, if the leadership, the political leadership of the state is not engaged in the preparation of mobilization resources, if the fortification equipment of the area is not sufficiently carried out, then there can be no military issues, therefore what are they not magicians and cannot do, you know, such

miracles that... create a miracle, because that's what the politicians want. the capabilities of the armed forces depend on three things: time, economy and people. and the task of the political leadership of ukraine is to provide our military with all these resources, then you can set something concrete and demand something concrete. mr. general, thank you for the conversation, it was serhiy krivonos, reserve major general, former first deputy commander of the sso and ex-deputy secretary. for the nsdc. friends, we we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are watching us there now. please take part in our vote. today we ask you about the following. do you believe that the terrorist attack in moscow was organized by the federal security service. yes, no, everything is quite simple on youtube, vote or yes, no and write your comment if you have your own opinion about it. we would appreciate your comments. if you watch us on

tv, please. call if do you think that the fsb is involved in the terrorist attack in moscow (0800-211-381) no, 0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. next , we have oleksandr khara, diplomat, expert on foreign and security policy, center for defense strategies. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast. good evening, mr. sergey. greetings, let's start our conversation with the terrorist attack in russia, which took place on march 22, and we can already see how in the current situation, putin is trying to use this tragedy in order to change from the role of aggressor to the role of victim, and at the world level, to create an image of russia as a victim country.