the press, which is ukraine, with what is happening now in russia, but with the help of this terrorist attack, they can say that we are also victims, and in many western countries this will find its response, and there are many different western politicians, they are exactly that and will claim that it will help in russia to oppose financial aid to ukraine there. and to change the focus of attention from the russian-ukrainian war to such a global, well, really existing problem of international terrorism. well, literally in these minutes, as we were on the air, putin did something else several new statements, reported by russian propaganda channels, that what he said at a meeting with security forces, the terrorist attack in crocus could be part of a series of attempts by those fighting for. of the russian federation since 2014

by the hands of the kyiv regime, it is already hinted at the countries of the west, and also, it is just about us, i believe, it is just volunteer units, and about volunteer units as well, and the question must be answered, why the terrorists tried after the crime go to ukraine, who was waiting for them, says putin. it is clear that those who support kyivsky regime, you don’t want to be... participants of terror and sponsors of terrorism, but there are really a lot of questions, well, that is, he takes it, mixes it into a heap and does it with representatives of russian volunteer battalions, terrorist units, ukrainian terrorists, a terrorist unit, does the world perceive this is the sign of equality that putin has been holding in public for the past four days. does

everyone take it that putin suffers a lot from terror, even though he himself is the number one terrorist in the world? well, look, you're right he is the number one terrorist in the world, and of course, such a transfer of this topic to ukraine will not work, but i believe that the main audience is there, not outside, inside, inside russia. and he says this more for the russians, and outwardly it will be the same, well, he hopes that it will be the same as it was during the chechen war, when he turned the fighters, the chechen opera into terrorists and separated them from international support , he is trying to do the same thing now, but i believe that here - if he will press on

it's too much, and judging by everything, he doesn't know the limits, then it will, on the contrary, harm him and not help him, because again it will look like a bare lie, but now he has a potential opportunity for this, and here we need to consider to this very carefully, carefully and... and to do our own communication at the international level correctly and cover all of this, if you look at what is being written now by various new york times and other international newspapers, then there is a lot to work on , mr. ilje, wanted to ask you about results of a raid by russian volunteer battalions. and the rdk and the legion of freedom of russia

and the siberian battalion, before the presidential elections, the so-called putin elections, there was a lot of information about how they operate in the belgorod, kurdish regions, what is happening now, whether the volunteers went to the territory of the ukrainian state, or some of them remain there, and maybe they have plans to advance there further and... tell the russians what war is, but the war is already on the territory of the russian federation? no, of course, our fighters stay there, and here it's just a question for journalists , for journalists, it's very boring to write and talk about the same thing, and that's why they just stop doing it, but the war continues, our operation continues, and the guys are there, and there are heavy battles, and there are wounded, there are the dead unfortunately, well, we

are fighting, we are fighting for the expression of this territory, and that's all, our program is the maximum, it remains the same, our program is the maximum. it is to release a certain piece of territory and keep it. and the purpose of holding this territory, as putin says, is to exchange it for territory held by russia? well look it would be very strange for us if we set such a goal, we want to liberate our country, we want to destroy putinism, we do not want to destroy some part of it and then transfer it to another territory. our goal is to unfurl the full-fledged white-blue-white flag there and create a new power structure of the new russian republic, which will replace the bankrupt russian federation. this is the main goal. can

russian volunteers be helped by representatives of different nationalities, it was not for nothing that i mentioned this xenophobia, which developed during a few days, and obviously it will continue, in moscow we will see it, or hear about it, what is happening there, already the head of chechnya, ramzan kadyrov , reacted in his own style to the wave of xenophobia against representatives of muslim national minorities, which began after the attack on croc city - hall, what kadyrov says, there are already alarm bells when individual false patriots far from the state national policy and national security play on people's feelings and call for f methods with instigators of pre-ethnic cleansing, the conversation will be short in within the framework of the importation law of the russian federation, he wrote in the telegram channel, well, when kadyrov talks about what is being called for, someone there is calling for fascist methods, well , putin’s fascist regime is actually fascist, and that’s how it

is, well, racism is a fascist regime, i.e. they, they have already moved on to this, this xenophobia, which will lead to clashes one way or another. obviously tragic consequences, to many incidents, more than 100 nations of peoples and nationalities in this russian empire, perform the role of slaves there, i don't know, well they are treated as slaves, could this lead to something similar to a rebellion within the state itself or to the fact that these will start to ignite. at that point or at that there are some riots against the government, well, look, sometimes when i read that mr. kadyrov, mr. medvedev, and several others write there, and when they write in the same words about someone, sometimes

it seems to me that they they write about themselves, because it is very suitable for modern russian. authorities , all that, what, what, what they write, and we saw these ahmadiyya, our legion fighters freedom of russia, we saw in the kursk region how they flee there, and how badly they are organized in general, and there in relation to other nationalities, well, the siberian battalion, it is made up of several nationalities from siberia, and... the chechen obon joined the operation in the belgorod region in the previous actions , there were belarusians, there were georgians who also participated, that is, we have a common enemy, i believe that all those who understand that it is necessary

to overcome it in moscow first, and only then to organize their national borders there, all these people, our allies precisely... we try keep a common front with them. very short, the very end of the question, i hope for a short answer, is ukraine capable of turning russia from a gas station country into a beggar's russia? of course, for this, it is necessary to form an alternative russian government now, and the time for this has already come. this term of mr. putin is coming to an end, and there is already a combat-ready unit. there is a part of the political position that is ready for this, it is necessary to move forward. thank you, mr. ilya, it was ilya ponomarov, a russian oppositionist, former deputy of the state duma of the russian federation. friends, we work live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube

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will join our broadcast in 15 minutes. let me remind you that we work live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, and throughout our broadcast we conduct a survey, we ask you the following: do you believe that the terrorist attack in moscow was organized by the federal security service of the russian federation. so, if you watch us on youtube, yes, no, or write your comment. below this video if you are watching us on the air, on television, pick up your smartphone or phone and vote if you believe that this is all the work of the fsb (0800-21130). no 0800 211 382 vote, all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. so, the story of the shooting in moscow's shopping and entertainment center kroku city hall, which happened five days ago, is unfolding right before our eyes, and

it looks like an attempt by russian terrorists to pull it on themselves. robes of holy martyrs terrorists led by vladimir putin, who they kill ukrainians every day and completely destroy our cities, villages, churches, kindergartens , schools, hospitals, they use the tragedy that happened in the krokus shopping center in order to arouse sympathy in the west and make those who do not... condolences to putin personally, to make enemies out of them. solov'ovska beeva and simonyan are simply convincing the world that only one country has a monopoly on terror in this world, and this country is called the russian federation. russia is a country that

generates terror on an industrial scale using various. types of weapons and we are it we see every day, every night, when they attack peaceful cities and kill peaceful citizens, they use all kinds of weapons, except nuclear, to show someone who is terrorizing the country, the number one terrorist in the world, they caught three tajiks there, one of whom was knocked out. the eye , the ear of another was cut off, the third was tried to be interrogated by applying an electric current to the genitals, and actually after that they talk about the fact that russia is protecting itself from terrorists, although we see that the country that is terrorizing is

including, well, in this case tajiks, these cadres. apparently you saw them publicly cut off the ear of one of the detainees on camera before the three suspects were tried, but they were treated like those responsible for the crocus city hall shooting. the russian dictator putin himself, in his address to the citizens, hinted and hints at the ukrainian footprint in this story, although he avoids direct accusations. let's listen to what putin says. as for the investigation of this crime and the results of operative and search measures, at this time the following can be said: all four direct perpetrators of the terrorist attack, all those who

shot and killed people, were found and detained, they tried to hide and... moved towards ukraine, where, according to preliminary information from the ukrainian side, a window was prepared for them to cross state border, a total of 11 people were detained. this statement was made by putin a day after the explosion at crocus city hall. 19 or 20 hours passed, putin was silent, he did not know what to say to him, how to explain? all that happened to the russians, that is, coming out in front television cameras, he began to carry the delusion, the delusion that he always carries in his life, that ukrainians are involved in what happened in kroc city hall, because it turns out that the perpetrators of this terrorist attack, as he says, were moving towards ukraine, where according to the previous according to the information

from the ukrainian side , a window was prepared for them, as this window these three tajiks were supposed to pass... houses in their renault simple car, apparently having driven 500 or 600 km from moscow to this border, putin, of course, did not explain, because now the border of russia and ukraine looks as follows: from that side, the russian side is mined, then there are units of the russian army, units of the russian army, then there is armor. equipment, then there are the national guard, that is, the entire border on that side is completely plastered with russian military, and imagine that these so-called terrorists or... those who are accused of committing a terrorist attack in a crocus hall, move in a renault siembol civilian car, which is like was near crocus city

, empty, having traveled 500-600 km, no one stopped them, and here they were through some window there, which the ukrainians had arranged, they would have pass, how they were supposed to pass, no one knows, putin lies, he always lies and... in this case, once again, he demonstrated that he is only trying to justify his aggressive actions towards ukraine with lies. like, there are tajik terrorists who staged a shooting at kroka city hall shopping center, and there are ukrainians who support them. if both of them act together, then this is a great threat to the russian federation. what will putin invent in order to ... carry out another terrorist attack from the russian side on the territory of the ukrainian state in order to to justify the flights of ballistic missiles over

peaceful cities, including the ukrainian capital, in order to justify strikes on the energy infrastructure of the ukrainian state, because it turns out that there are those who helped those who shot russians in the crocus city shopping center. holi, by the way, i want to remind you that this whole story unfolds on the days when putin celebrates his victory, victory in quotation marks in the elections, the so-called elections of the russian federation, to put it simply, the holy days in which there was these election results are falsified, in that including in the territories that are temporarily occupied by the russian ... federation, so the united states of america warned russia in advance about the threat of an organized terrorist attack , and this was reported by cbs news, but

the kremlin did not take this information into account, at the extended collegium fsb, which took place the day after the so-called presidential elections in russia, putin compared such warnings, which then came true. with blackmail, let's listen to what he said. statements of official western structures about the possibility of terrorist attacks in russia. all this resembles frank blackmail and the intention to intimidate and destabilize our society. that is, foreign special services inform putin's fsb that there will be terrorist acts. on russia, and they believe that, as always, western special services are plotting, and either putin already trusted the fsb, or the fsb was completely

involved in the ukrainian state, but they did not take this into account, and then this story began with the ukrainian trail, first putin, then medvedev came forward with his explanation that that ukraine... should be answered, as he said, with death for death, on his facebook page, and then in telegram, he wrote that one should not expect the results of a terrorist attack, because, as he says, no courts and investigations will not help if force is not opposed to force, total executions of terrorists and repression against their families, if it is established... that they are terrorists of the kyiv regime, it is impossible to deal with them and their ideological inspirers otherwise, they will all be found and mercilessly destroyed as

terrorists, including the officials of the state that committed such a crime, wrote medvedev in the evening when this tragedy, this terrorist, collapsed in the suburbs of moscow, what exactly do the russians want? kermanichi, or those who currently rule the russian federation. well, obviously, the number one goal is to tie ukraine to these terrorist attacks and increase the shelling of the ukrainian state and justify, they are going to do it by the fact that the ukrainians tried to help those who were recruited by idil. second, they want to restore the death penalty in the russian federation to kill those who criticize. and who tries to question the regime of putin and those who are the basis of this regime of putin, it is not for nothing that medvedev mentions that we will kill

and find for this. ways, well, obviously one of the ways is to call on the russians to support their initiative to restore the death penalty in the russian federation, and this, in principle, could also be one of the consequences. the third is the transformation of russia into an openly fascist state, when they will check all the nations and nationalities that inhabit the russian federation. on the subject that, on the subject of involvement with isis or terrorists, well, for example, tajiks who were caught and accused of having staged this grand terrorist attack, obviously, it will not just be those who were born and raised in tajikistan, now temporarily lives in russia, will not just be residents of the countries of central asia, which are also on the territory

of the russian federation, that is... that is, we can witness how this whole story will turn into a xenophobic story, into a fascist story, into a racist story, when the russians will simply beat and kill these people who are on the territory of the russian federation. president zelenskyi also spoke about these accusations or hints that... these terrorists may be connected to ukrainians, let's hear what president zelenskyi said. this nobody, absolutely, putin, instead of dealing with his russian citizens, addressing them, was silent for a day, thinking how to attract this to ukraine, everything is absolutely predictable, those hundreds of thousands of russians who are now being killed on ukrainian soil, for sure.. .

would be enough to stop any terrorists, and if the russians are ready to die silently in crocuses and not ask any questions to their special services, then putin will try to turn more than one such situation in favor of his personal power. well , it should be reminded that similar terrorist attacks and similar terrorist acts are in russian. have taken place since 1999, it was in this year that there were explosions in russia, in the cities of moscow, volgodonsk, buynaksk and in ryazan, during the laying of explosives, employees of the federal security service were detained, who seemed to check how the residents

of the house would react to... these provocations, although in reality they were caught with bags of hexane, which was then called ryazan sugar, and that's where all these memes about ryazan sugar and how the fsb tried to exploit the gullibility of russians came from in order to create the conditions under which all terrorist attacks committed in 1999 on the territory of the russian federation. blame the chechens and say that it was the chechen militants who organized all these actions, which were then used against the chechens and to destroy the chechen republic and chkeria. well, in this situation , the following facts are also important: in 2004, in dubrovka from...

there was a sort of takeover of nordost, and you remember the whole tragedy that unfolded there, and the late kobzon went there to save someone, and all this too, as putin's opponents, including the fsb officer letvinenko, who was later poisoned in great britain, later claimed that it was all the work of the fsb. in 2004 and also took place in... the explosions in the moscow metro, i, by the way, in 2004 a few weeks after they took place there explosions, i was also in moscow on a business trip , i came on a business trip, and here i remember the tension and the atmosphere that prevailed in moscow, in particular in the subway, people were wary of everyone who entered the carriages of the moscow subway with bags, well, it is clear

that a person enters the railway station with some